Howdy guys and gals.
Although I pretty much... err... hate my Touch Pro (feels sluggish, GPS is worthless), the final insult came when I upgraded to Windows 7 64bit. The phone just couldn't sync through WMDC. It wasn't a ROM issue or a problem on the phone itself, since I'd kept my old XP 32bit instalation on another disk and checked it there, through Activesync - that worked fine. I thought it was a problem with some program I had installed on Windows 7 (firewall, antivirus, whatever) and since I had a lot of work, I tried only occasionally to fix it. Once, twice, thrice... After some months, I got bored with having no sync and thought I'd finally reinstall Win7 64bit and try, bit by bit, to find the offending software. Guess who's the culprit?
Windows 7 64bit
There can't be no other explanation but a problem on the OS itself, since after a complete wipe of the HD and a reformat, with no installations whatsoever, with Microsofts official updates of the system (yeah, ORIGINAL Windows 7, no "you have a pirate copy" problems here), it 'still couldn't sync. I tried different roms (different NRG versions, TAEL and a bunch of others), different cables, different USB slots... Nada. Zits. Remember, I'm talking vanilla installation of both Win7 64bit and the phone (wiped storage, original ROM flash and then upgrade to cooked ROM). N-o-t-h-i-n-g worked.
I must have spent more than 50 hours troubleshooting both, installing, reinstalling, changing cables, heck, even trying different hardware combinations (had some spare parts and changed almost everything apart from the motherboard and the CPU). It-doesn't-work.
My version of Office WAS 2007. I used the exact same software with WinXP (but jumped to some 64bit versions of programs like Photoshop), but that doesn't matter anyway - since I tried syncing with ONLY Windows 7 64bit installed and no software. On XP everything works fine - so, no "hardware problems on the PC or Phone".
So, I've finally reached the point were I have to... beg for help. Really. Please, somebody, any ideas? At the moment I've upgraded to Office 2010 and I know that "I can't sync with it", but, hell, I couldn't sync with the previous version as well. Microsofts official forum offer no help whatsoever on the issue, and mention the same'ol "tricks" to make WMDC work (I'm sorry for the language, but after spending seven hundred bucks on this piece of crap phone and another couple of hundred on original version of the newest version of Windows, as well as tens of hours of my time, well, **** you Microsoft).
I'm really sorry for the rant, I wrote it more or less for people in the same position as me, as I've read messages from some other users that also cannot sync their HTC phone through WMDC, even after reformatting. Microsoft plays dumb, looks away and whistles like it's somebody elses problem. If you're thinking of upgrading to Windows 7 64bit, keep an image backup of your previous system. I'm not saying that EVERYONE has the same problem as I, many people seem to be syncing just fine. It seems there's some strange... Dunno... Hardware configuration problem on Win 7 64bit and WMDC communications, on specific motherboards. I don't know what else to think.
So, does anyone, anyone at all, have any idea, however strange it might be, of what might be the problem? Can somebody help if I post logs and info and whatever else? I bought this brick first and foremost for syncing tasks and notes with my PC, and since I can't do this, it's totally useless for me - just like a "dumbphone".
And even if you don't have any idea of what's the problem, does anyone know of a way that I could sync Outlook "on the net" (for free, I ain't paying no more for doing what I already paid for) and then on the phone, and vice versa? I don't need only "calendars", thank you very much, but the full monty: calendar, contacts, mail, tasks and notes. Outlook MUST be "in the mix" - I can't move everything to Thunderbird, nor switch to Linux, as you probably understand. I need some kind of Outlook-Internet-Phone syncing solution. And, no, I cannot afford to buy another phone, not at the moment at least.
Anyone? I'd be grateful...
Thanks in advance
Ducklord
P.S.: I should add that I tried with and without "advanced USB connectivity" on the phone side. I should also mention that Windows DOES "SEE" the phone, it just doesn't sync. At some point it -did- manage to sync, but only notes - no contacts, mail, tasks or calendar. Activesyncs log (on the phone side) mentions some codes that I don't remember at the moment, but that correspond to "cannot find the server", "cannot find the data source" or something like that. It's like the phone and the PC are connected, Outlooks existance IS recognised, but the phone cannot "find Outlooks data" (if I'm making any sense). I've come accross 3-4 different Activesync problems in the logs, when trying different setups/solutions to my problem, that all, more or less, translated to "cannot find the data source from which the phone should sync". And, yes, the phone IS accessible through Windows, I -CAN- copy files to its SD, I can even install new programs through WMDC and sync its photos with Windows (well, at least, I could before I upgraded to Office 2010).
I never had a single problem with my win7 64bit
but granted the usb chipsets in my motherboard are made by intel
if your are not then you may have to download 3th party drivers from the manufactors
webside to get a better usb compability
other chipmakers like via are known to require a driver update now and then to work with anything
Unfortunatelly, same thing applies to me: I've got an Asus motherboard with Intel chipset (as far as I know, "nothing strange"). To be more specific, an Asus P5Q Deluxe, with Intel Q6600. Anyone with a similar motherboard AND Windows 7 64bit AND no issues with WMDC? I'm lost here. And if there IS anyone... What were the steps you've taken so that your phone syncs? I mean, did you do anything "strange" apart from downloading and running the damn thing (and letting it "update the drivers for the unknown device" (aka: the phone)?
Almost certainly this is MASSIVELY unrelated, but I had a problem with getting an LCD w/s monitor working on Win7-32 -UNTIL- I installed the Intel chipset driver for Windows XP !!!! I got them direct from the Intel site; seems that although Win7 has drivers for almost everything, there are still some drivers you gotta install yourself.
It's gotta be worth a try; IIRC there's a chipset identification utility on the Intel site - I used that to get the exact chipset series, then downloaded the latest drivers, installed them, rebooted and the monitor worked (and I forgot to mention, it wasn't onboard graphics, it was a dual-DVI PCIX-16 card )
Give it a try....Dr. Pepper (what's the worst that can happen )
Mark.
I have Windows 64bit, and I had some problems syncing. I ended up using bluetooth and it worked. Now, it seems to work over USB as well.
Ooookay, I didn't only try "reinstalling all drivers" from official and unofficial sources, I even took a dive, once again, and spent more than 4 hours setting up Windows 7 64bit from scratch (clean format, new HDD, new install) AND re-flashing my phone. Result? Nothing.
I just remembered than some time ago I had posted a message here saying I was disgusted with my Touch Pro's performance (witch still sucks and is far worse than my older first-gen Tytn). Some people started saying that "it was a flexible device", "I could do lots of things on it" and stuff like that. I compared it to iPhones speed and app availability (among the thousands of crap there are some great apps) but noooo sir, "our phone was better and could do everything the iPhone could". About one year later, Touch Pro, a brick I paid about 700 euros for, still majorly sucks. It crawls in comparison to the first iPhone, it doesn't have any good software and now, to add insult to injury, it doesn't do the very thing I bought it for: it doesn't sync with outlook.
When I can't use my "professional" device in better ways than the "kiddie" iPhone (which I never liked, but admire for its ability to do what my phone SHOULD do), when we're talking about a Microsoft device that can't sync with Microsoft's OS (and I'm not alone in that), when some of its "best apps" are a proggy that makes boobs jiggle and a two-year-old RSS reader, could someone, anyone, from those that called me "an Apple fanboy" tell me a single redeeming factor for this piece of **** brick?
I admire the time and effort of all XDA Devs, but not "for what you've done for me" (as many others do), but for your courage fighting a lost war. Among HTC and Qualcomm laughing at us for paying again and again (and again) to buy crippled devices, while trying hard to believe their lies that "the next one will be better, honestly", in the meantime creating "skins" and "front-ends" in the hope of camouflaging the disaster that is Windows Mobile (each and every single version of it).
I cannot take it any longer. I simply can't. And I 'still can't realize why the heck there are so many of "you" (meaning "residents of the XDA developers forums") claiming to be "happy" with the state of our phones, while creating new threads in a vain search for some kind of software "that will do something" (while not sucking). For faqs sake, please, do point me to some spectacular software that will make me LOVE my phone. Anyone? Anything?
I bought the Touch Pro as an upgrade for my Tytn. I liked the idea of a better camera, more memory (that would allow Opera to actually show some pages without crashing, like it did on Tytn) and "embedded" GPS (I had an external unit for my Tytn). I was also hoping that more software, apps and games would show up.
I ended reusing the external GPS since the embedded one sucked (I tried each and every fix - none made it work better than the Tytn+external antennae). Running the same apps (since nothing "great" came up, in three faqing years). Forgetting about the camera (since with unofficial ROMs, tweaks and hacks is 'still laggy as hell). And now, I cannot sync it with Win7.
Well, at least that's Windows 7 64bit's fault: I can't sync my Tytn too, to it. But all this means not only that I won't be buying another HTC device, but neither anything with a Qualcomm chip (I'm scared that somehow even Snapdragon devices WILL be crippled "in some way" like my Touch Pro was), nor any mobile device with a Microsoft OS. It's not (just) that I don't like'em, but that I cannot afford "playing" with my wage. For crying out loud, Playstation 3 cost less than half of what I payed for Touch Pro, and IT WORKS as it was supposed to.
I'm really sorry for the rant and I apologize if my views got on the nerves of -or even offended- anyone. Try to put yourself in my position and maybe you'll understand my point of view. I've payed a full wage for this phone (yeah, I'm Greek, and that's about the average wage over here) and it didn't do a single thing it was supposed to do. I've been stuck with it for about two-three years, unable to (afford to) upgrade it. And now, I -have- to use Windows 7 64bit in my line of work, but that means that this ****brick just lost its single redeeming use: syncing with Outlook.
If anyone can help I'd be grateful, but I really feel hopeless as I've already invested WEEKS in it. I've lost all hope and I don't believe it will ever work as it's supposed to. It became the single reason I'm researching "what software I'll need after my jump to Linux", since I deeply feel that Microsoft didn't just "cheat on me", but insulted me as well. Ah, I'm still mumbling and getting on your nerves, after I said I'd stop... Sorry...
Anyways, sorry for the long and bitter message and keep fighting guys. I admire you, but I guess I'm not up to your caliber.
Best regards
Odysseas
P.S.: It STILL syncs Notes normallly. ONLY notes. Oh, Microsoft, how I love you...
Me again.....man, you're on a real downer huh
Questions... (you may have provided this information already!) :-
1. Did you install the 64bit version of WMDC?? And v6.1 rather than 6.0?? (It says it's for Vista x64, but it does for Win7 x64 too)
2. You're trying to sync with Outlook 2010?? From the 32bit or 64bit version of Office 2010??
I found several threads that state categorically that WMDC does not and will not work with 64-bit Office 2010; there are no plans (on MS's part) to rectify that anytime (soon). The following has been suggested as a "workaround", though I've not looked at it or tried it so YMMV......
... found a workaround. It is with google sync.
PC (Outlook 2010 64bit) to google:
http://www.daveswebsite.com/software/gsync/download.shtml
and google to mobile device:
http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=138636&topic=14299
Works for me!
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(from http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/office2010/thread/033733af-9a4b-4aaf-baf9-06be507bbe40)
I'm really not sure what else to say...sounds like you've pretty much made up your mind to defect to the "dark side"....but I hope it doesn't have to get that drastic
Cheers, Mark.
@Mark Crouch: Thanks for trying to help, and, yeah, I'm a bit "down" today (...and yesterday, and the whole frickin' month trying to fix my brick)...
1. I have the latest version of WMDC (I guess - I Windows-Updated and re-downloaded it manually a gazillion times)...
2. I know that "it doesn't sync with Office 10 64bit". I tried it for a while, then uninstalled it and reinstalled 2007 (which worked happilly under XP and syncs fine). Its the 32bit version - exactly the same I used in 32bit XP. The problem seems to lie entirely in a combination of me being extremely unlucky and Win7 being 64bit. SOME people have met exactly the same problem as me on their PCs. SOME. Some unlucky sods like I. Others sync in Win7 64bit with WMDC with no problems whatsoever. But, I am "I", and "I" is cursed by the almighty Baal, or so it seems...
2b. Alow me to repeat, just to make myself clear, that having reinstalled a-"clean"-version (and "original" as well, no warez, cracks, stuff that could "get in the way") of Win7 64bit, WMDC 64bit and Office 2007 32bit, it still didn't work. Now I'm back in my trueimage-recovered Win7 64bit system (not in the "clean" system, since it didn't work as well and I didn't want to re-setup my hundreds of apps and settings). The problem lies somewhere in Win7, WMDC or their combination "being 64bit" (and, no, the 32bit version of it "cannot be installed in my processor architecture" since I'm using 64bit Windows - that's the message it threw at me when I tried installing it).
2c. I cannot revert to 32bit land and use 32bit Win7 64bits. I need my 4Gigs of RAM and my next upgrade will be another 4Gigs. Among other stuff, I sometimes work with graphics, multimedia, video editting. I won't "stay behing" and make my life harder just to sync a frickin' HTC brick.
3. Yeah, I've read exactly the thing you found - among hundreds of others. That's the way I'm syncing at the moment, but it doesn't help. You see, I bought the frickin brick not to sync mail (like most people), I almost never use my phone for mailing. I need calendar-contacts-tasks-notes. And with Google I can't sync tasks - it doesn't support task syncing with Outlook yet, thus, I've got no way of syncing them to my mobile as well. It kills me, since I manage my work by splitting it in doable chunks and writting them down as tasks to-do (in a bastard version of David Allen's GTD methodology).
Funny thing is that when (not "if") I "defect" to Android club, I'll still be unable to sync my tasks with Outlook (since, as I said, "Google doesn't yet support syncing tasks"). But the difference will be that I'LL KNOW FROM THE BEGINNING that "I won't be able to do this". It's a world of difference compared to "you'll do this and that and the other" and then have the rug pulled under your feet. Yet, I won't be able to "jump ship" for, ah, I dunno, one-two years. Our economy is in ruins and I'm trying to make a living, so, I cannot just throw money at shiny gadgets. Not at the moment.
So, any other ideas? Anyone? Pretty please?
Best regards
Odysseas
let me first start off by telling you that in no way shape or form am I skilled enough to be a developer nor am I asking the deleloper with the skill to take this on. I have searched a few forum and I really can't find any info about this subject.
I have a siearra wireless card USB598 the service is provided by Sprint, Does anyone know if it would be possible to make this work on the gtab? Or is it even possible to make it work in an android system?
When I plug the card in it powers up and seems to be doing what the card does but like you could guess it does nothing else. I didn't expect it to do anything else but I didn't think it would even power on.
I am not a developer either, but off the top of my head (devs feel free to correct me):
You would need drivers for the AirCard (no idea, but maybe the Linux drivers [if they are made for the card might work])
You would also need some sort of software to have the AirCard connect to the mobile network and to have the GTab use the Aircard as a means of communication
Dan
Velcro a mifi onto the back. : -)
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I have an air-card, as well. It's on my list of to do's but it will be tricky at best.
I had a sierra air-card a few years back, and got it to work with Ubuntu using some ppp commands. I figure that would be the most likely route in Android, since it has some *nix similarities, but I haven't gotten very far.
If you look at "dmesg", your card might be loading up. But the problem is actually getting old modems commands to it to get it running. I think.
ultimind said:
Velcro a mifi onto the back. : -)
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YES! Sprint Overdrive 4G! WooHoo!
It'd be a lot easier to try one of the 3G/4G-to-local wireless "boxes" available through many wireless providers (I use MyWi on my jailbroken iPhone 3GS though I'm looking into clear.com's service on the go). That way not only your GTablet, but your laptop and other devices can connect to the same connection and even your friends.
The air card is provided by my employer so I'm kind of stuck with it and getting into a myfi device isn't an option.
It's not really a huge issue I can always tether to my phone, It would just be nice to pop in the card and be up and running. The card also has gps built into it and I could see some use in that too.
I think drivers are going to be the biggest issue the MFG only supports MS and MAC, but there are some threads out on the web were people have gotten them to work in ubuntu. Beyond the driver issue there still needs to be some type of dialing software. On a windows box you can use a simple dialing software and dial a #77 and it will connect.
One other thing that this card has the ability to do is NDIS where the card becomes a network card and as soon as it's inserted into a pc it connects automatically but I'm almost 100% sure that it is still software based.
Thanks for the feed back.
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The air card is provided by my employer so I'm kind of stuck with it and getting into a myfi device isn't an option.
It's not really a huge issue I can always tether to my phone, It would just be nice to pop in the card and be up and running. The card also has gps built into it and I could see some use in that too.
I think drivers are going to be the biggest issue the MFG only supports MS and MAC, but there are some threads out on the web were people have gotten them to work in ubuntu. Beyond the driver issue there still needs to be some type of dialing software. On a windows box you can use a simple dialing software and dial a #77 and it will connect.
One other thing that this card has the ability to do is NDIS where the card becomes a network card and as soon as it's inserted into a pc it connects automatically but I'm almost 100% sure that it is still software based.
Thanks for the feed back.
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For the ZT-180 tablets we got a number of these going as they looked like serial modem interfaces using ppp via the USB (might need to turn off/disable) any builtin diskstore... there sometimes required a build.prop edit to set the tty correct... I'd normally say look over on Slatedroid at our zt180 section as there were a few threads for different 3G dongles but mostly similar instructions... except slatedroid's been bottom up the last 30 or so hours... the zt-180 thread here is HUGE but I suspect you could find most of the same info scattered throughtout there also as maybe a starting point...
Novatel Ovation U727
The Ovation U727 supports Linux in addition to Windows & MAC. Data sheet indicates it has built in GPS-A in addition to 3G. Anyone tried one of these? I might get a used one & give it a try.