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OK, preface: I don't want your sarcasm or cheeky remarks. I'm sick of reading through irrelevant and closed threads to no avail.
If it were agreeable, would a MOD, or SamsungJohn please comment as to whether the "huge announcement" has been made?
I'm not trying to be negative or anything, but I have my own personal thoughts as to whether "opening the lines of communication" is considered "huge", or even an "announcement". If the powers that be allow, I would like to comment to SamsungJohn about that personally.
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OK, preface: I don't want your sarcasm or cheeky remarks. I'm sick of reading through irrelevant and closed threads to no avail.
If it were agreeable, would a MOD, or SamsungJohn please comment as to whether the "huge announcement" has been made?
I'm not trying to be negative or anything, but I have my own personal thoughts as to whether "opening the lines of communication" is considered "huge", or even an "announcement". If the powers that be allow, I would like to comment to SamsungJohn about that personally.
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Send him a PM then.
The dude is full of crap.
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REALLY?....guys just wait you don't even know what he's going to announce.
He has proven he works for Samsung so he's not fake and is talking to the higher ups
.....Just wait we don't know what he's even capable of or what he's going to do for our community.
Isaint the announcement was that they have started a q&a with a poll that's it bro
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O my bad dude 8(
...lol i still don't see it though where did you guys see this?
EB13 Imminent?
So is this the "huge announcement"?
http://www.androidcentral.com/froyo-eb01-release-imminent-sprint-epic-4g
Android central suggests that the EB13 update is "imminent" and that sprint has been making changes to its customer service page in advance of this.
EDIT: Actually I think they are suggesting that Samsung is updating its Epic 4g page. Hopwever, when I follow AC's link it just goes to a blank page with a little form at the bottom asking if I was satisfied with the content. I said "no".
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So is this the "huge announcement"?
http://www.androidcentral.com/froyo-eb01-release-imminent-sprint-epic-4g
Android central suggests that the EB13 update is "imminent" and that sprint has been making changes to its customer service page in advance of this.
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No. That's not even confirmed. The big announcement is yet to be announced, everyone just be patient.
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dr_gibberish said:
So is this the "huge announcement"?
http://www.androidcentral.com/froyo-eb01-release-imminent-sprint-epic-4g
Android central suggests that the EB13 update is "imminent" and that sprint has been making changes to its customer service page in advance of this.
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This announcement of EB13 is good for us Epic owners, but that does not effect all Galaxy S owners. I think the better news is that John is here to make sure we don't have another debacle like this whole Froyo update. Samsung realizes the influence we have and to have a line of communication between a Manufacturer and a dev forum is unprecedented.
IF the poll he is compiling is the 'big news', then if it actually bears fruit, that could be useful. Not sure that is the announcement. I think he shot himself in the foot promising an announcement, maybe official collaboration between him and svetius is a big deal to him, but until it bears fruit, it's not that impressive to the average XDA user. This leads me to believe that the poll may not be the announcement, just another part of the work he is trying to accomplish here. Give him a shot, and dont ***** about froyo, he said its on the list, wait and see what he does.
Silly flaming about froyo on here is only going to get threads closed, and give him an excuse to ignore the issue. If you must, do it on the social network sites, or PM him, then you can get your temp ban, and threads stay open...
As speculated in one of the general threads, (ran out of thanks if I didnt catch it), he MAY be sent here as a distraction, to keep us off twitter, FB, and the other retarded social networking forums. He is from that dept, maybe he is cleaning it up by distracting us...? Kind of an elaborate conspiricy, but who knows. Those that have been doing the twitter/FB campaigns, dont let up, it may be working... but keep the crazy comments there, as it will draw more attention to the unrooted masses...
HOPING SJohn is making such a big deal because he knows something he cant say yet... just hope he doesnt drag it out and announce froyo on the 20th!
This still reminds me of the Fallout3/Vegas on the PS3 BS...
Working nights sucks! I go to bed and all the fun comes and all I find are locked threads after a cup of coffee when I wake up. :/
So how many armchair bandits have actually sent a pm to the xda owner on what we might do as requested? I did suggest a moderated forum where posts are only posted until after being reviewed by a mod. While I'm no dev I did offer to help out with such an endeavour.
Why don't you guys just give him a chance. His hands are tired right now and be can't say anything untill xda allows him.
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ungovernable1977 said:
As speculated in one of the general threads, (ran out of thanks if I didnt catch it), he MAY be sent here as a distraction, to keep us off twitter, FB, and the other retarded social networking forums. He is from that dept, maybe he is cleaning it up by distracting us...? Kind of an elaborate conspiricy, but who knows.
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The first part of your post was spot-on....the above though is way too tinfoil hat and outside the realm of the feasible or credible. There's no way anyone in a position like his is going to come here or elsewhere to simply serve 'as a distraction'. Frustrations especially amongst we Epic owners are understandable to a point, but the above manner of thinking goes beyond frustration and crosses the line into bizzare paranoia.
It seems fairly obvious and certainly logical what's happened with John to this point, and in hindsight predictable too given the angst here; he came primarily with the hopeful purpose to collaborate with the people actually doing ROM/device development here, to try and establish a relationship with these folks perhaps to mutual benefit for both current and future product/customers. Unfortunately, the initial implementation came a bit too soon and without enough forethought and, it seems, without communicating his intentions and initiating a dialogue with the XDA owners first. That, combined with (a.) some obvious communication 'ambiguity' (at best) on John's part and (b.) making the mistake of thinking such a dialogue should be brought forth and attempted with the open masses of the entire membership of XDA down to the end user level and all the kneejerk 'angry white noise' therein, proved to be a disaster.
None of that means the desire and effort behind what John/Samsung is attempting is without value or merit though. And fortunately, it now sounds like they're going to try isolating his interaction purely with the dev/material contributers that actually matter, and hopefully they'll do so privately as well to keep everything filtered from the mob mentality so that an actual civil, mature interactive process can take place. Besides, a great deal of what he was barraged with in the central 'General' thread were issues that are mired on the carrier level anyway at least when it comes to the remaining GS phones still lacking Froyo.
And honestly, any information the end users want to hear, if he can even provide such, would be better received and trusted if its handed down through already established devs & moderators in each forum who have the history and respect of the membership at large to some degree. Otherwise you get what you've gotten the last 24 hours; a mindless, angry lynch mob mentality of kneejerk frustration being directed at one sole employee who (a.) had nothing personally to do with the cause of said frustration, and (b.) furthermore actually dares to come in good faith & intention wishing to bridge the divide. Sometimes, the hounds become so rabid and lose their minds so much that they try to gnaw off the good intentioned hand that attempts to try and help or feed them, and that's pretty much what happened in John's case.
Although it would be cool, I highly doubt that XDA is doing and hands-tying here. The ball has bee Sammy's court for a while now.
XDA has been walking the walk, not talking the talk.
If the 'huge announcement' was to announce the efforts of "collaboration", fine, we can move forward.
If a MOD came and commented YAY or NAY, then they could close this thread, and it's purpose would be served.
As it stands now, you have a bunch of people making assumptions one way or the other and making silly statements accordingly. We all what assuming does... =D
how do you know about my tinfoil hat?! No, really, its all Noobnl and Elvis' fault. Bastards.
I honestly hope John does something more than get special threads and draw attention to XDA. But you had a good idea there....
Any Mod/Admin have any input????
Was the announcement the first post of the 2 or 3 threads SJ started, or were they to lead up to the announcement, and were hijacked by angry SGS users with pitchforks acting like John is Frankenstein's monster??
BTW, did anyone notice the GSM SGS users were much more rabid in the General forums???? I guess its because of their rates/service ratio Seriously though, I thought we were bad...
it is getting all hyped up and will probably turn out to be meh...
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how do you know about my tinfoil hat?! No, really, its all Noobnl and Elvis' fault. Bastards.
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Haha, I wasn't referencing you personally, just the 'threads' you were referencing and the mentality portrayed therein.
Hehe, you can't say "huge announcement" to a bunch of nerds and not have it be something that gives them their techie-jimmies for the day.
When I think of "huge announcement", I think something really relevant to the target crowd that either appeases are very much wanted need, or announcing something crazy that gets everyone excited.
If either of these things fails to happen, I consider this a major PR gaffe, that could be saved be some out of the ordinary effort by Sammy.
Silly mens!
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Hehe, you can't say "huge announcement" to a bunch of nerds and not have it be something that gives them their techie-jimmies for the day.
When I think of "huge announcement", I think something really relevant to the target crowd that either appeases are very much wanted need, or announcing something crazy that gets everyone excited.
If either of these things fails to happen, I consider this a major PR gaffe, that could be saved be some out of the ordinary effort by Sammy.
Silly mens!
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Agreed fully. That is what makes this so puzzling. Stop being so damn ambiguous SamsungJohn and just come out and tell us in no uncertain terms what the announcement is and what you would like from us.
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Haha, I wasn't referencing you personally, just the 'threads' you were referencing and the mentality portrayed therein.
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oh I know... I just referenced the 'distraction theory', as it is PLAUSIBLE, although not likely... plus its entertaining... this is like my geek soap opera.... please SPRINT, please take this as far as you can... I really wanna see minds lost here.
The best part is that some of these theories end up on so called media websites, Engadget, I got my HTC assassin theory from a very reliable source... please write an 'article' about it... why not... ?
Look, I get that SamsungJohn is trying to open the lines of communication. Here's the problem, he's not giving anything back. If you want to know how we all feel, just read the boards, I think you'll get the point. Ergo, why you showed up here John. You guys have already read the boards, you know what our complaints and desires are. So, you really have only two options at this point. Since you've already outed Samsung for monitoring the XDA boards (by showing up here in the frst place), you can:
1. Continue the "what, who, me?!?" routine and waste our (and your own time)
or
2. Tell us the truth about our concerns
SPOILER ALERT: *****Choosing option one will remove customers from your current base. Choosing option two, while it may not increase your customer base, may have an effect on your word of mouth advertising (which will probably have an effect on your Tab 10.1 sales versus the Xoom [FYI and unrelated, leaving USB off the 10.1 was a seriously bad idea]).*****
Just food for thought from a long time lurker here.
i Don't think he's here to listen to people b*tch and moan every minute...
Im pretty sure he'll be communicating with the Devs.
so please post this in another thread thats saying/implying the same thing..
Wasn't my intent to b*tch or moan. I just wanted to convey a message I keep reading in a clear, non-emotionally intense manner.
If the intent was simply Dev comms, why open up to the whole community? Why not just keep it to Gtalk?
Didn't post for a flame war, I am just as personally invested in this as everyone else who owns an Epic. I would simply like John to understand that asking us for our questions is a bit rhetorical, as they are already laid out in the boards themselves. The way out of this is to communicate real pieces of useful information to the user base.
I feel xda should atleast give ppl an idea of whats going on.. if its confidential etc ppl understand.. without saying what happened, who approached whom, whats this stupid phase 1, phase 2.. theres so much speculation and anger around it.
either samsungjohn or xda mod (whoever it be) should just come forward..explain the whole thing saying.. this is what happened and this is the roadmap .. and stick to those days.. this way .. ppl will understand what to expect and when.
just my 2 cents
Wait, you think your thread on this got deleted, so you posted it AGAIN???
Yeah, sorry I usually RTFM the FAQ, but I have always jusk lurked here, never posted until recently. Did I voilate an XDA ettiqette rule? Sorry if I did. I figured either it got deleted or I hit cancel instead of submit (but I edited the original due to a grammar error, so that's why I assumed it was deleted). I never had any intent on bashing anyone, just wanted to re-articulate what I see so many people trying to express and I personally feel.
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Here's my two cents on the issue.
I'm not privvy to all the "behind-the-scenes" info, but I have seen some crap in my time here on XDA, which has solely been in the EPIC community.
Not relevant in all cases, but for instance when BThomas was still kickin' around with Viper, he almost threw in the towel on numerous occasions after anonymous dev\mods with influence or power got butt-hurt and tried to get his work banned. That kind of crap is no doubt one reason why some devs have disappeared, not to mention whatever happened with some of the ACS devs.
No doubt people get all crazed with their interwebz power, get jealous, and try to throw some weight around. Maybe that works in the workforce when people get a paycheck, but the last thing someone wants is for morons to start complaining about how your volunteered time is hurting their ego.
...maybe we need to front the $$$ for a whaaambulance, might clean few things up around here.
I'm leaving here soon! .. But not all is devs crying over a thanks .. Some of us members are part of the reason too!
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dcowboys2184 said:
I'm leaving here soon! .. But not all is devs crying over a thanks .. Some of us members are part of the reason too!
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Its not for a thanks, its for credit.
And a "thanks" is the least you can do to give back.
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I'm leaving here soon! .. But not all is devs crying over a thanks .. Some of us members are part of the reason too!
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To be sure, for every one of us that supports by money or time, there are those that choose to piss and moan.
But as was said above, being butt-hurt has little to do with receiving a thanks but the opposite when a thanks is deserved...and also going to silly measures to satisfy your jealousy/ego.
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thanks to the name of the phone all news regarding it is instantly over-sensationalized..
EPIC dev fallout sounds pretty.. uh.. epic
Yeah, it is rather punny =D
Nothing against you MeetFace.. But don't you think we have enough threads about devs. It seems like every week after one falls off the frontpage a new one is started. Adding another one in the General section isn't going to do anything but make more people coming to this forum just move else where. If the Devs get into it with each other we should let them sort it out and not get involved. Besides the Evo section has always been worse than ours..
If had noticed/felt that I was being redundant or "preaching to the choir", I would withheld my remarks.
I don't check the forums as often as I used to, and I check the general section even less, so forgive my lack of noticing what apparently may be a problem. I was merely responding to an issue that was raised in a closed thread, felt like there were some words that needed to be said.
If you think my comments are wrong or misplaced...then you are naive, because I speak of real situations. I won't go into any more detail, but I will say this:
If you can't man up an be civilized, then you should keep your mouth shut, and regardless of your contributions, whether they be developing or support, you are doing a major disservice to a "community" when you try to tear people down in public, instead of trying to build them up.
It's really simple. Adhere to the GPL and the XDA rules against advertising other sites that require registration to download custom ROMS.
A "donation" to obtain access to GPL or similarly licensed code violates the GPL (or the respective license) and will get your ass sued by the FSF. Thusly, linking to a site that violates the law will land XDA in trouble.
RMS would **** bricks over what some of the devs here have done.
I get that, and for those situations, it overrides anything I said here in this thread.
But that's not the whole story in all situations...thus the thread I created.
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I get that, and for those situations, it overrides anything I said here in this thread.
But that's not the whole story in all situations...thus the thread I created.
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Sorry, I wasn't replying to you. I just want to make it clear the reason why the mods/XDA has reacted to some devs the way they have. It's to cover their own asses from legal repercussions.
No hard feelings, just wanted to clarify that I wasn't implying the above was the case with those types of issues. Didn't mean to sound abrasive, gotta love voice-less text =]
But again, I do agree with, people should follow the rules, people should not take things so personally, and in and open source environment, people should get so selfish.
I fully agree with you. And the loss of emotion and everything else by using text-only is something that completely enrages me when I want to actually talk to my friends who live half-way around the world but they refuse to use webcams or even voice. I've just resorted to telling them to screw off unless they call or video-call me. Far too much meaning is lost otherwise and only causes trouble.
dcowboys2184 said:
I'm leaving here soon! .. But not all is devs crying over a thanks .. Some of us members are part of the reason too!
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You're right. It is some of the members too. The members that bash people because they ask a noob question and feel that they are so far above the person that they have to put them down. There's bullying in this forum and to the point where I've almost stepped in and said something in defense of the person. That kind of **** has no place here, just like the other crap doesnt either.
You'll like this:
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2006/02/70179
I've read the actual study years back in one of my business classes back at the old University.
This is why you can't take things personally all the time...will save you some butt-hurt =D
I don't really have anything to add to this conversation, but I just wanted to say that "butt-hurt" is my new favorite internet phrase. That is all.
MeetFace said:
You'll like this:
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2006/02/70179
I've read the actual study years back in one of my business classes back at the old University.
This is why you can't take things personally all the time...will save you some butt-hurt =D
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Or add in a " " and make someones day! Lol
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I don't really have anything to add to this conversation, but I just wanted to say that "butt-hurt" is my new favorite internet phrase. That is all.
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I'll have to admit, your appreciation of my usage of the phrase afforded me not a few audibly deep belly chuckles.
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I started a thread about this a while ago. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002595
I have a slightly different take on all of this. While I'm glad that most of today's issues are resolved these problems will arise again. This whole thing went down today because someone complained about pieces and parts of a developers ROM. Then I got dragged into this because I use the Bonsai kernel that I made NO changes to. Apparently all I had to do was post a link to the Bonsai source code and the problem went away. There are not a lot of us left here in the Epic forums for various and often times preventable reasons.
There is to much inconsistency with how these forums are moderated. Is impaler gone now? I mean it's like one day everything is ok and then the next day it's a problem. In all fairness to the mods they are over worked and simply not paid. Perhaps, xda should think about paying these guys a little something for their efforts. Perhaps XDA is growing to fast for it's own good. I mean in my opinion is quality over quantity.
My other issue is the in-fighting. We have people here that live to make drama and start flame wars. I'm not singling anyone out on this but it happens and a lot more often in the past few weeks. I don't know why we don't focus more on purging the forums of problem people rather then productive developers that choose to venture away from xda. We also need to be very careful about publicly accusing people of being in violation of a GPL. Falsely accusing someone of something should not be taken lightly. All it serves to do is misinform the community and cause confusion for the users as to what really happened. Not to mention the damage done to someones reputation.
XDA would be nothing without the developers and users that make it up. I realize that XDA makes the rules and are well within their rights to do so. But sometimes some of these rules need to be revisited from time to time to make sure they are applicable especially when a site is growing as rapidly as XDA is.
This place used to be an escape for me. Something I enjoyed participating in but anymore it serves to cause more stress then it helps to manage. If we want this community to survive we ALL need to think about how we carry ourselves here and what kind of behavior and attitude we deem acceptable. I'm very frustrated with the direction this is all going in and I have really tried to keep us going in the right direction. We all play a part in the negativity and we ALL NEED to play a part in making things better.
For the record, I thought today was handled pretty well as far as transparency goes. So Thank You.
Threads like this need to go away. Drama explaining the drama. Wish the mods would just delete any drama threads here.
I've noticed in times of late, one particular user has not only spammed the forum with virtually every post they make, but they have resorted to creating spamming threads entirely. I honestly don't care what the issue is; it could be anything from gay marriage, breast cancer, diabetes, Alzheimers, etc.... I do not come to the forum to hear about anything other than Android development, particularly for the Samsung Epic. I don't care to have anything else injected in to the discussion, regardless of how passionate a contributor is about an issue, it DOES NOT BELONG ON HERE.
There are thousands, if not millions of valid causes that could be discussed by any one of us, but thankfully every other person that posts on the forum respects the fact that just because it's a good cause, one that hits particularly close to home, STILL DOES NOT MAKE IT OKAY TO SPAM EVERYONE ELSE ABOUT IT.
If you want to put a line in your sig about curing your down syndrome, that's fine by me. Sigs can be disabled. However, injecting spam into your post, or making an entire thread about your spam is clearly crossing the line. Now, if your Epic contracts an STD, or cancer, or in some way causes it, that's a different story. Otherwise, go join a forum that is purpose built for such topics, or keep it to facebook, where your actual friends reside. Contributing to the Epic community, or actively using information found here, doesn't make us all friends. You're not able to come to my house and sleep on the couch, you cannot borrow my car, no I will not loan you money, and no, I honestly don't want to hear about your personal issues, or discuss them with you.
So thank you moderators out there who already understand all of this. I, and just about every other member out there thanks you for keeping the forum about the Android devices, even if at times it's about dueling cores.
And to the members who report the spam posts, thank you.
Truth, bro. I had almost lost faith in the mods here. Thanks guys
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What does this post have to do with the epic? Sounds like you are supporting a cause. You should keep that to a line in your sig, since those can be turned off.
I would rather read a million extra lines having to do with autism or supporting a family down on their luck than worthless flame bait crap like this. Grow up. There are maybe five threads a day posted here, it takes you five seconds to open one and close it. Get over yourself before all the people actually adding something to the community leave.
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What does this post have to do with the epic? Sounds like you are supporting a cause. You should keep that to a line in your sig, since those can be turned off.
I would rather read a million extra lines having to do with autism or supporting a family down on their luck than worthless flame bait crap like this. Grow up. There are maybe five threads a day posted here, it takes you five seconds to open one and close it. Get over yourself before all the people actually adding something to the community leave.
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I should google plus 1 this. I think he has something against rob who does midnight rom. I know he has a thread about autism and how we can donate phones to a project to help kids were android helpa them communicate.
Also if you don't like a thread topic then don't read it unless u are like a deer looking into headlights.
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How can you talk about contributing to the Epic community when mods are banning the actually contributors for your/others opinion.
And the so-called spammer you're talking of actually contributes to the Epic community, since he's helped us, why can't we help him with a positive cause? However if you think the spam isn't epic related, you don't know what Android Autism Awareness has done. Many who follows Randy's blog know where it has AAA started, right here in the Epic forums. Bringing followers over from the blog gaining XDA traffic which they need to make money. If it wasn't for Randy support not only making Roms, but keeping these forums as a community while dealing with his own issues this forum would be worst than it is now.
Now we lost Ecooce because a mistake a mod made which was
outright ridiculous claim she made if only she would have read and comprehended what was being said none of this would not have happened.
*shrugs*but I guess what I believe in or any other positive Epic user believes in doesn't matters because it doesn't comply with XDA rules.
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It doesn't matter who agrees with the SPAM, and I don't know who Rob is. What I do know, as do others, that the SPAM has gone overboard, and just recently it's begun to be cleaned up. And I thank the mod team for doing such. The issue was left unchecked previously, and it began to grow. The board isn't tit-for-tat, and just because you contribute, you're not entitled to use any spot you want to post that crap.
Nothing is preventing you from sending PMs, or Emails, or joining a chat server. Openly posting as the violator/s have done is against the rules, and it doesn't belong here. Not sure how many different ways someone needs to hear that it doesn't belong here before their hamster wakes up and starts spinning the little wheel upstairs and it dawns on them....."Perhaps THE Android development forum isn't the place to post my personal business after all".
I for one find it more helpful to support our troops over seas with phone donations and such. It's real, tangible support that has clear results. It's also what allows us the freedoms to sit here and disagree. I don't have to continually throw stuff like that in people's faces all the time though. There are million plus worthy causes out there to support, probably none of which aren't readily known, but it's each of our own decisions to support them, and NONE of us have the right over any other to continually push and annoy members of the forums with the one issue we find closest to our hearts. You do not further a cause by disrespecting anyone in its name. Grow up violators......you know who you are.
I'm glad you feel you contributed. Unfortunately, you're a failure. ecooce actually contributed roms, tech support, and leaked info to this community. You've done nothing but add flamebait. Congratulations.
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If you think SPAM is bad. Imagine reading about how others don't like SPAM. That's even listen less on topic dude.
Nigel Powers comes to mind "There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and the Dutch".
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I'm glad you feel you contributed. Unfortunately, you're a failure. ecooce actually contributed roms, tech support, and leaked info to this community. You've done nothing but add flamebait. Congratulations.
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Again there is nothing in the rules that state violations are okay as long as you contribute X or Y or Z. Contributing doesn't make you an owner, and it certainly doesn't make spam any more credible or worthwhile. This board isn't a free for all. People need to respect the other members of the forum and stop injecting the spam around every corner.
@NoSoMo
Do you have personal agenda that need to be accomplished or just generally have something against those you speak of.
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I'm going to start a thread about how I don't come here to listen to people complain about how people spam. Then someone else can start a thread about how they are sick of threads of people complaining, then we can fully complete the chicken and egg scenario.
Thank you!! Having all the garbage across the board is one of the big reasons why some of the devs left. Its the Epic forums....to talk about the Epic!!! Go to the chit chat boards to talk about other stuff.
I don't come here to listen to people complain about spam.
Just saying.
- Ron
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How can you talk about contributing to the Epic community when mods are banning the actually contributors for your/others opinion.
And the so-called spammer you're talking of actually contributes to the Epic community, since he's helped us, why can't we help him with a positive cause? However if you think the spam isn't epic related, you don't know what Android Autism Awareness has done. Many who follows Randy's blog know where it has AAA started, right here in the Epic forums. Bringing followers over from the blog gaining XDA traffic which they need to make money. If it wasn't for Randy support not only making Roms, but keeping these forums as a community while dealing with his own issues this forum would be worst than it is now.
Now we lost Ecooce because a mistake a mod made which was
outright ridiculous claim she made if only she would have read and comprehended what was being said none of this would not have happened.
*shrugs*but I guess what I believe in or any other positive Epic user believes in doesn't matters because it doesn't comply with XDA rules.
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I don't think the op understands
community, its just a "forum" to him. Maybe he's a robot?? I feel sad for him.
WHO? WHO DOESNT WANT TO WEAR THE RIBBON?
btw, im with the op.
I'd rather contribute to a good cause than just take up space.
Just saying.
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I'd rather contribute to a good cause than just take up space.
Just saying.
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hahahahahaha
Now we lost Ecooce because a mistake a mod made which was
outright ridiculous claim she made if only she would have read and comprehended what was being said none of this would not have happened.
Wait wtf did i miss ecooce is gone ...............somebody tell me or pm this some bull****
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Yes this thread is a complete contradiction to itself.
I have agreed with this op for a very long time. I just kept my mouth shut. I don't come to this forum for anything other than regarding my epic. It is bs that people are trying to bring awareness upon their own personal agendas what ever that might be that's what facebook is for. So stop exploiting this phone forum with whatever disease or self pity stories or your other sites. Truth be told this is why I HAVE NEVER FLASHED A MIDNIGHT ROM AND NEVER WILL.
When I first came to this forum, I was admittedly lost and confused.
I had my Samsung Vibrant for a very short time, and it was giving me non-stop problems; It was nothing; but a headache. I bought the phone believing some of the hyperbole that surrounded it. My previous Samsung (Dumbphone) had worked beautifully for a year until it's touchscreen died. Considering the fact that it featured a "resistive" touchscreen, and factoring in normal wear from daily use. I just couldn't be mad about it. It served it's purpose. This was my reason for purchasing the Samsung Vibrant. I was ready to buy a much better device with a better touchscreen; I had done my homework on Android, and was waiting for the right time to purchase an Android device.
I didn't want the Behold 2; I checked it out, and after handling a live model at the store, it felt cheap and I was a little surprised by that; because the Behold 1 was literally made with REAL Metal etc.
I visited this site, and realized that I could ACTUALLY replace the inoperable ROM
that was leaving my Samsung Vibrant non-functional
I posted my issues looking for answers and was instead attacked vigilantly by developers and other members here
This was the exact opposite of what I was expecting.
I've noticed that Developers here frequently bully other users here, and they have friends who use rogue tactics which cause the developers to close ANY thread which openly criticizes Samsung or T-Mobile in a negative way.
Recently we found out that the creator of the Cyanogen mod was just hired by Samsung!
Based on the response even to the most subtle of my issues
I have had nothing but suspicion since the beginning.
I have been wondering who your company holds in the best interest
Is it the people?
Yourselves?
Or the corporations you seek jobs (and/or) sponsorships from or look to gain sponsorship from?
All I can say is that when your site claims it is for the developers you leave some important things out of the equation.
This site is frequented by regular people who do not have the money or time to go and buy ten different phones to play with.
Some of us don;t have the time to sit there for hours and work on code
There are REGULAR people who are members of this site
they have issues like me, and we do not act like we know everything
we are not selfish and narcissistic.
You have never considered as as a factor
were sick of the bullying and favoritism
and I was the first to fight back
I am asking
What's wrong with XDA?
It's not you, It's me.
The best advice to any new user that I can give is to sit, watch, and read. If you come in your first day and post a question that gets asked on a weekly basis you will be flamed. If you have a reasonable level of tech savy, and watch and read the forums for two weeks or so 90% of your questions will be answered and almost all of those that aren't can be found easily by searching (the xda search function sucks imo but a Google search returns xda pages easily).
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Lol Your post really touched me because that's how life and the real world is. Not so much on XDA. If you at least read the first full post and the last page of the thread you will know about any bugs/fixes and won't be flamed for asking the same question. I know it's kind of intimidating when people who build the ROMS tell you your wrong about something and openly express displeasure about having to answer the same question over and over. But you also have to keep in mind that this is an open community and anywhere you go in life or the internet there will be assholes and trolls but 99 percent of the members of this forum are cool people who can relate to not being able to afford 3 phones. Lighten up bud. If you have at least the slightest knowledge about technology and problem solving. You should be just fine. BTW most trolls have 0-25 posts and 0-3 thanks and are juniour members. Just something I thought I'd share.
It be like dat
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oh, and to answer your question, it sounds like you are the problem with xda. i've never had a problem. i've never blamed samsung or tmob for me purchasing the vibrant (and i love my vibrant), i don't demand or expect anything from the devs, i just appreciate what they do for us and try and help others when i can.
It's about respect bro.
I've only been flashing for a couple months but i was lurking for a month before I posted.
I read, learned, and then asked. I got flamed sure, but now I try to help other users with their repeat questions so the devs don't have to.
Anyway... your post is probably going to fall on deaf ears.
You do not complain ON the site you're complaining ABOUT.
You're wasting your time and venting to the community you're venting about.
Pretty much making people mad at you is all you did
Sorry man.
Vibrant+MIUI
I've been here a while. I just lurk so I don't have to deal with assholes. I also read and use the search to avoid asking questions. 98% of the time my questions have already been asked and I find the answer myself.
Hey MicBeast, how did that class action law suit go for you? Make any more songs about it?
Its funny how you sound self righteous here, when I remember a much different person starting a lot of drama when I first saw your name popping up around here, a simple search and anyone can read that whole soap opera.
But hey, this is just one man's opinion.
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Dude....
Something uncomfy crawl up your pants leg ?
I've asked plenty of questions on this site....always got the answer (granted a few asswipes always show).
I've *****ed about both Slambung and Tblowbile, no one bad mouthed me for it.
Hell, I have a Motorola Photon on Sprint now (yes, it WAS that bad).
I don't see the problem.
If you don't like it.....walk the hell away.
Not one soul forced you to be here.
MicBeast, I just skimmed your 125 posts.
I will not say much, but maybe you should really think about what's wrong with xda... Keeping in mind that xda is a place for developing predominantly.
I've never had this kind of experience personally, and I actively discourage it in my thread. My thread its full of helpful nice posts and great individuals. I don't do this for any reason but the love of doing so, and never plan on doing it any other way. Its rude, insulting, and wrong to generalize anyone, you have only interacted with a fraction of the people on here. Once you have spoken with EVERY person, then you can make a statement, for now, please refrain from these gross generalizations.....
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I thought you have an Iphone now? So why are you lurking on these forums still?
You have nothing better to do than to waste your time harassing people you don't know on the internet?
If I remember correctly, I've seen YOU bullying quite a few different members. Causing much more drama than any developer I've ever seen.
XDA is for developers to share and "develop" their work, share ideas, etc... They don't necessarily have to be every newbie's personal tech support agent. They can help who they want on their own free will... And if they don't feel like being nice, or get fed up with the same questions asked over and over again, then by all means let them. No one is paying them, and they certainly aren't bound by any contracts.
This isn't a service, there's no 1800 number to call and complain to. It's a public forum, so deal with it. Take some time and appreciate the information that this forum is bulging at the seams with, for free, for anyone to learn.
I just looked at ur post an yea u are what is wrong with xda u go around an complain about how things aren't working troubleshoot it ur self an what about that iPhone which is "better" than android go to whatever fourm they have an just go away :-/
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Ok..here we go:
The name of the site should be a clear shot of what this site is all about, XDADEVELOPERS.COM.
Secondly...what's "wrong" with this site is the same as any other site...some members, either old or new, that think that they opinion is more valuable than other and for that they tend to bully themselves around
Third...why even start a thread about this topic when you clearly know the reaction it's going to cause...in my book that is considered a type of trolling and even though I'm up for trolling the OT fora every now and then, do not agree with threads that will stir up the pot (if you know what I'm mean )
Hence, thread closed.
Best regards with your future endeavors mate...come back and visit