I'm thinking about buying it, but my impression was the updates comes straight from Google. And then I found some threads saying Verizon was holding back 4.2 from the GNex, which I thought was ridiculous because that's the entire appeal. Anyone know if they will hit the Nexus 4 right away? The GNex isn't on T-Mobile of course, so I don't know how to look that up.
Well wouldn't that be Verizon holding back and not Google? Since that phone came from Verizon and not directly
From Google?
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Well wouldn't that be Verizon holding back and not Google? Since that phone came from Verizon and not directly t
From Google?
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Yes, that's what I said. But I will still be using a carrier (T-Mobile), so the question is whether T-Mobile will hold back the updates.
Well if you get the nexus thru T-Mobile who knows what they'll do with updates. I got my phone off amazon unlocked.
And I popped on my sim and immediately it started downloading my 4.2.1 update
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Yes, that's what I said. But I will still be using a carrier (T-Mobile), so the question is whether T-Mobile will hold back the updates.
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I doubt it. From what I've gathered, they are selling you the same phone as it's sold in the play store, just with a contract. Everything is just....Google. Even so, you could just flash it manually if you'd like.
This is an international unlocked, it will get update faster than any other Android devices. Currently there are no carrier locked version. The one sold by T-Mobile is unlocked and exactly the same, it will receive updates from Google, T-Mobile do not do anything with the software.
The reason the Galaxy Nexus Verizon don't get update as fast because its CDMA network and they had to take time to test things and put in all their software.
Exactly. The T-Mobile nexus is the same in every way to the play store nexus. Not even a yakju takju like difference. They are the same hardware and software.
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The simple answer to the question is:
YES, the nexus 4 will get the most timely updates of any android phone out there.
The longer answer is:
The updates will come directly from Google. The day Google releases an Android update, it will be available to every Nexus 4.
LG has nothing to do with software on the Nexus 4. LG will have nothing to do with any of the software updates (for example, what happens when Samsung needs to modify Touchwiz for a new Android version). That is what makes Nexus phones different than the rest of Android phones out there.
Also, the carriers will have nothing to do with the software on the Nexus 4. So the carriers will not be delaying any updates by adding their proprietary stuff and bloatware packages to the system.
There will be no delays caused by either manufacturers or carriers. This is the opposite of most phones, that have updates delayed by both the manufacturers and carriers.
What happened to the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon has nothing to the Nexus 4. The software delays for the Verizon version of the Galaxy Nexus were due to Verzion. And that is part of the reason why the Nexus 4 is not available on Verizon this time around!
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Just speculating for fun, what do you think the 3rd Nexus will be like? HTC, Samsung...LG? Dual-Core/4.3"/3D? What specs can you envision. The first from HTC was innovative, the current from Samsung brings NFC, what will the 3rd one have? Discuss..
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Just speculating for fun, what do you think the 3rd Nexus will be like? HTC, Samsung...LG? Dual-Core/4.3"/3D? What specs can you envision. The first from HTC was innovative, the current from Samsung brings NFC, what will the 3rd one have? Discuss..
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Got a strong feeling it will be a clone of a future phone that we have not seen yet, but it will probably the best of class out of the Tegra 2 Dual Core phones.
JD
Dual-Core for sure.
quad-core is already in existence... theyre coming
LG or Moto or even Sony Ericsson next, I imagine.
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quad-core is already in existence... theyre coming
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True true. It could be the flagship device for Quad-Core and just skip dual cores.
I like Samsung and LG looks promising, I don't think it will be HTC or MOTO since they are both trying to lock everything down right now.
I envision: quad core, 3D, 4.0" screen (I hope), 4G. Hopefully everything else that we have now plus better battery.
A dual core,possibly HTC again,tho there's really no telling, certainly won't run on T-Mobiles network ..(at&t u suck) k sorry back on topic...
I think sprint will get it before anyone else.....I'm thinking Sprint is gonna be Google's new go to guy,especially if and when at&t has its way with T-Mobile .....
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A dual core,possibly HTC again,tho there's really no telling, certainly won't run on T-Mobiles network ..(at&t u suck) k sorry back on topic...
I think sprint will get it before anyone else.....I'm thinking Sprint is gonna be Google's new go to guy,especially if and when at&t has its way with T-Mobile .....
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it could be like the G2x with multi-bands... Sprint disabled tethering on Nexus S, so I doubt it.
AGAIN. stop over exaggerating the T-Mo/AT&T, it can be disapproved and AT&T will have to pay T-Mobile for the 'breakup fee' which will be HUGE for t-mobile.
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it could be like the G2x with multi-bands... Sprint disabled tethering on Nexus S, so I doubt it.
AGAIN. stop over exaggerating the T-Mo/AT&T, it can be disapproved and AT&T will have to pay T-Mobile for the 'breakup fee' which will be HUGE for t-mobile.
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Right. And I still think T-mobile will get it first. Google is VERY big on sim unlock phones, because most of the world use GSM technology and not CDMA! Its easier to start with a sim unlock phone first because it can reach more ground that way!
It will either be samsung or LG definitely not motorola since they have been locking bootloaders and nexus phones should be the most hacker friendly android device. It will be dual core or a 3d capable device. G2x, evo 3d, htc pyramid, lg thrill, or galaxy s2 but htc too is getting stricter and google might not want that.
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It will either be samsung or LG definitely not motorola since they have been locking bootloaders and nexus phones should be the most hacker friendly android device. It will be dual core or a 3d capable device. G2x, evo 3d, htc pyramid, lg thrill, or galaxy s2 but htc too is getting stricter and google might not want that.
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XOOM has a unlocked bootloader. It doesnt even matter what manufacturer its from because Google will ask for it to be bootloader unlock/locked (fastboot oem unlock/lock), I'm sure if Google approached them they would have the honor to do it and just not make it bootloader locked etc. So it doesn't matter what the company's policy is.
If its a Google Experience phone it'd be open. And I wouldn't be so quick to say HTC is locking down phones, or trying to, when we've seen two recent cases.
On topic I hope its a solid dual core (quad! O_O) 4 - 4.5 display SLCD and the obvious goodies inside. And hopefully Sprint as I take this Nexus S and GVoice integration to mean Google and Sprint pairing up.
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it could be like the G2x with multi-bands... Sprint disabled tethering on Nexus S, so I doubt it.
AGAIN. stop over exaggerating the T-Mo/AT&T, it can be disapproved and AT&T will have to pay T-Mobile for the 'breakup fee' which will be HUGE for t-mobile.
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I thought that too at first, then I was thinking that the G2x is already pretty much vanilla-ish android already, I think a google product would not be diverse enough when compared, and I can't also see a phone rebranded by three different firms. It would be nice though
I think that simms is right, by the time Google decide on a new phone we will be in quad core territory.
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Google seems to be showcasing with the Nexus line. "Here's how it should be done."
With the Nexus One Google showed the world how a (non-Apple) smartphone should be. At that time, other smartphones were about as exciting as a 70's Volvo.
The Nexus S showed the US that there is a world beyond carrier lock-in. Unlocked, crapware-free, no contract necessary.
The next Nexus could well be a tablet. "See? Here's how to make a proper tablet!"
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Google seems to be showcasing with the Nexus line. "Here's how it should be done."
With the Nexus One Google showed the world how a (non-Apple) smartphone should be. At that time, other smartphones were about as exciting as a 70's Volvo.
The Nexus S showed the US that there is a world beyond carrier lock-in. Unlocked, crapware-free, no contract necessary.
The next Nexus could well be a tablet. "See? Here's how to make a proper tablet!"
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Technically that was the XOOM. That was all Moto/Google.
I wonder how the ATT & Tmo merger is going to affect the Nexus line. I'd be interested to hear Google's thoughts on the merger.
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I wonder how the ATT & Tmo merger is going to affect the Nexus line. I'd be interested to hear Google's thoughts on the merger.
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Yeah I would also be interested in how google feels about it. They probably could care less they are gonna do the same either way
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XOOM has a unlocked bootloader. It doesnt even matter what manufacturer its from because Google will ask for it to be bootloader unlock/locked (fastboot oem unlock/lock), I'm sure if Google approached them they would have the honor to do it and just not make it bootloader locked etc. So it doesn't matter what the company's policy is.
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I forgot about the Xoom. I was just thinking about their phones.
I would LOVE to see a MOTO Nexus phone. I really love the quality of their hardware. When it comes to durability, signal strength, call quality, and battery life I think they are better than anyone else. I am really liking Samsung too though. Hopefully one of those 2 make the next Nexus.
WTF is wrong with Verizon... GS2, Nokia920 and Now HTC ONE... Even with NOTE 2, Verizon has managed to take away some of its best features.
Now all I can get is the GS4. I really wanted HTC ONE Badly...
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WTF is wrong with Verizon... GS2, Nokia920 and Now HTC ONE... Even with NOTE 2, Verizon has managed to take away some of its best features.
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It sucks for VZW customers but also sucks for HTC. The DNA's not selling well on VZW and once the SGS4's released won't sell at all. VZW has almost as many subscribers as all of Japan and HTC getting them and the other three U.S. carriers to sell the One under its own name would have been a huge win. VZW not carrying it means HTC lost a little under half the U.S. as a sales opportunity for the One and the DNA's not strong enough against the SGS4 to move the sales needle for them. It's a shame. When asked about devices with larger than 5" displays on an analyst's call in February HTC's CFO said "yes, in the coming months." So maybe there will be a "Droid" by HTC phablet on VZW in the future.
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WTF is wrong with Verizon... GS2, Nokia920 and Now HTC ONE... Even with NOTE 2, Verizon has managed to take away some of its best features.
Now all I can get is the GS4. I really wanted HTC ONE Badly...
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The only thing keeping me on VZW is there coverage. If it wasn't for that I'd be gone.
As much as I despise htc because they've left a bad taste in my mouth with this phone I'd like to see the one come to VZW
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"Confirmed: HTC One not coming to Verizon in the USA"
http://www.gsmarena.com/confirmed_htc_one_not_coming_to_verizon-news-5717.php
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"Confirmed: HTC One not coming to Verizon in the USA"
http://www.gsmarena.com/confirmed_htc_one_not_coming_to_verizon-news-5717.php
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The source is false. I checked htc usa's tweets on twitter. They never posted that
Also the link that the person from twitter refers back to on talk android has been taken down but after some research on my home pc this is indeed true that VZW will not carry the HTC one which to me is just odd in every way
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The source is false. I checked htc usa's tweets on twitter. They never posted that
Also the link that the person from twitter refers back to on talk android has been taken down but after some research on my home pc this is indeed true that VZW will not carry the HTC one which to me is just odd in every way
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Yes the tweet itself has been removed. Not sure what that means.
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Thought we already knew it wasnt gonna be on verizon? You know..until later?
Verizon did get the Note 2?
Verizon is a carrier that wants to have their way with a device. If they can't put their carrier branding all over it and make a weird commercial they don't want it.
CDMA carriers always miss out/ late getting phones. It's best to be on GSM if you like to change phones
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Verizon did get the Note 2?
Verizon is a carrier that wants to have their way with a device. If they can't put their carrier branding all over it and make a weird commercial they don't want it.
CDMA carriers always miss out/ late getting phones. It's best to be on GSM if you like to change phones
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Yea the branding on the phone is quite annoying. Personally I'd prefer to do without it
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AllThingsD: Don't Believe Everything You Read on Twitter: Verizon Is So Getting HTC One. http://goo.gl/mag/1mkulN7
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AllThingsD: Don't Believe Everything You Read on Twitter: Verizon Is So Getting HTC One. http://goo.gl/mag/1mkulN7
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Agreed but there is no indication if they are really getting it or not
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Good Afternoon,
I am interested in getting the Nexus 5 which supposedly is being unveiled on August 7 and in stores October 20. Sadly im sure it wont go to verizon right away but i hope it doesnt take long. How is the software support for the 4?
I come from HTC Thunderbolt where the support lagged for years before finally releasing ICS in February of 2013, 1 month short of 2 years old. I am hoping the support for this phone and forum is high?
Thanks for replying...
The software support is what you would expect from Google... there haven't been many Android releases since the release of the Nexus 4 but it got the previous updates right away, and it's expected to be the same for the next few releases at LEAST.
However why do you think the Nexus 5 will be on Verizon at all seeing as the Nexus 4 isn't?
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Good Afternoon,
I am interested in getting the Nexus 5 which supposedly is being unveiled on August 7 and in stores October 20. Sadly im sure it wont go to verizon right away but i hope it doesnt take long. How is the software support for the 4?
I come from HTC Thunderbolt where the support lagged for years before finally releasing ICS in February of 2013, 1 month short of 2 years old. I am hoping the support for this phone and forum is high?
Thanks for replying...
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1) Where did you get your info on when the Nexus 5 is released?
2) The Nexus 4 isn't on Verizon.
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verizon ruined their chances with the way they handled the galaxy nexus. no nexus should be treated like verizon treated the galaxy nexus
oh, and are you sure that you didnt mean motorola x, instead of the nexus 5??
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verizon ruined their chances with the way they handled the galaxy nexus. no nexus should be treated like verizon treated the galaxy nexus
oh, and are you sure that you didnt mean motorola x, instead of the nexus 5??
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Well the phone should have CDMA capabilities with the qualcomm 800 so i guess im hoping for it to come to verizon. They are saying the LG G2 is the Nexus 5. Its still not confirmed but it looks pretty. I guess we get to know more on August 7th.
Moto X is just an Iphone competitor phone. I dont want that. Qualcomm 800 is what i have been holding out for. Sad none of the new droids got it, the x wont have it so my next phone will be between the Note 3 (kinda big but i can deal with it), HTC T6 (i wont get it i just thought id mention) or LG G2 (possibly known to be the Nexus 5). Any thoughts?
Btw this post was originally just to find out ROM support but i like the additional feedback!
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Well the phone should have CDMA capabilities with the qualcomm 800 so i guess im hoping for it to come to verizon. They are saying the LG G2 is the Nexus 5. Its still not confirmed but it looks pretty. I guess we get to know more on August 7th.
Moto X is just an Iphone competitor phone. I dont want that. Qualcomm 800 is what i have been holding out for. Sad none of the new droids got it, the x wont have it so my next phone will be between the Note 3 (kinda big but i can deal with it), HTC T6 (i wont get it i just thought id mention) or LG G2 (possibly known to be the Nexus 5). Any thoughts?
Btw this post was originally just to find out ROM support but i like the additional feedback!
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Nexus and Google Edition device dont get CDMA support due to the closed sourced telephone files. There have been no positive rumors of even a new nexus coming this year at all. If there was it would have most likely been released today with the new nexus tablet.
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Nexus and Google Edition device dont get CDMA support due to the closed sourced telephone files. There have been no positive rumors of even a new nexus coming this year at all. If there was it would have most likely been released today with the new nexus tablet.
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LG G2 UNCONFIRMED CONFIRMED COMING TO VERIZON yay!
Well if the nexus thing is true then its no big deal. The phone seems to have all the core specs im looking fore. Upon release we will find out if the other specs meet or exceed expectations!
2700mah+ (possibly removable)
sd card slot
nice speaker
LTE A support!
Im so excited i need to change my pants!
EDIT: So i guess i should ask the Optimus G forum instead since it looks like it wont be a nexus device
This is my first lg smart phone and I'm new to android since april with gs4. Coming originally from IOS we probably can all agree that Apple regularly sends out fixes, updates, features and the older models always get the new IOS when released.
My question is historically, how has LG been with support for previous flagships as far as internal LG UI updates and android updates?
My concern is that I rarely see or hear anything about this phone except for android specific sites. I see no advertisement and in AT&T and Verizon stores I have seen the G2 set aside with crappy phones. Recently I saw it with no power or description and this weekend I was looking for cases and it was not on display at all in both Verizon and att that I visited. The reps didn't even know what it was and pointed me at the G pro. I can't even find a case for this in a store.
Is what I have now all it will be for the next 2 years?
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There will always be developer bringing you pure android if that is what your asking, if your asking will there be updates from LG then most likely not a lot...unless it's something so important that people are writing to them about.
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There will always be developer bringing you pure android if that is what your asking, if your asking will there be updates from LG then most likely not a lot...unless it's something so important that people are writing to them about.
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Since I'm fairly new to android. I'm a little worried about rooting to get pure android, plus I don't mind lg ui except for some flaws. I am pretty tech savvy but from what I hear one mistake can permanently screw your phone. I also feel a consumer shouldn't have to hack their device to stay current.
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We'll likely never see an official update for this phone. Verizon drags their feet, kicking and screaming, to push out updates. And LG, like Samsung and HTC, race to pump out new device after new device with blithe disregard for maintaining their old products.
While Apple has only a handful of devices on the market, each of which built in tandem with the new OS and with developers savvy enough to provide graceful fallback on older devices, Asian smartphone makers make dozens upon dozens of devices to satisfy dozens upon dozens of carriers who feel the need to have ten phones with the same specs.
And each manufacturer kowtows to the carrier, fracturing the OS further.
If we see an official 4.3 release, we'll be lucky to see it before the end of 2014.
(Not to say we won't have AOSP, mind you.)
I am probably one of many people who gets LG g2 because I am unhappy with nexus battery life and hoping that the g2 being similar to nexus 5 will have enough people buying the phone to be of interest to developers.
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I can't speak to ATT and Verizon as I'm with T-Mobile, not surprised about the display and lack of knowledge, Verizon sells 40% of all iPhones in the US and potentially owes Apple 12 billion dollars if they don't meet certain sales figures. ATT sells 40% as well, its in the best interests of those two carriers to push Iphones and ignore Android except for their low end market but believe me they don't want anyone thats getting a high end phone to get an Android over Apple. Sprint and T-Mobile only sell 10% each of iPhones sold in America each year.
I frequent 3 T-Mobiles in my area and every employee in the store is always using only Android phones, used to be S4 and Notes but now they all are sporting G2s. I was formerly with Sprint and it was exactly the same deal. At both stores Apple gets a simple display along the wall with their handsets and the rest of the store is all Android, a few Windows and now Blackberry is kaput lol.
If we judge by last years Flagship from LG the Optimus G, which I had and loved. Several months after its release the honeymoon was over, you couldn't find a case for it anywhere and had to order from Amazon. Right now you walk into T-Mobile and they have a dozen cases for the G2, I can't talk for Sprint but I expect they carry a handful for sure. Good thing is most major case makers have at least one or two models out for it if not at the carriers then online. You'll never see a case inside a Target or Walmart, they only ever have them for iPhones and the top Samsung model.
My two cents is this device will see more support from LG, certain carriers and developers. I say this because LG has alot riding on the phone so I think in house they will wait and listen and provide updates in a timely fashion and I think they'll push carriers to do the same but looking at the numbers its obviously better to be an Android owner with Sprint or T-Mobile rather than the other two, not surprising that these two companies are in merger talks.
I just went to all the Carrier sites, ATT has 1 case for sale online, Verizon has 3, Sprint 0 and T-Mobile 8 different cases in multiple colors. This is online and stores will vary but it pretty much paints the picture. Granted Sprint isn't selling the phone yet.
I'm not afraid for the G2, LG has earned a good reputation with developers because they consistently put out good devices and for the 2nd year in a row will be the choice of Google for the Nexus phone. Truth be told last years Flagship is still on 4.1 Jellybean but as I said above I believe and hope LG will show more support this time in the States for this phone. If you want guaranteed Android update love in America then in order it would be Google Nexus, Google Play Editions, Samsung, HTC. Sony and LG pretty lame and finally Motorola which is a wildcard in this department I think.
Sorry for the long ass post and I don't even remember your original question but hopefully my diatribe provided at least some helpful info. Just be thankful for XDA and the development community is all I can say for sure, I know I am.
I had the LG G2x back in the day and it was ruined by closed sources and lack up updates.
I'm on Verizon and have a Galaxy Nexus now, I'd love the Nexus 5 but probably not available for Verizon. The G2 is the best thing out there right now, but I'm very leery. I don't see very much rom development yet.
The G2x was a complete disaster that was plagued with lock ups, battery drain, reboots, and lack of any official updates.
I've already told myself I am waiting for December to decide between the N5 (if its available) and the G2 (if it has a good community). Else I'll just stick with my Galaxy Nexus.
If you want timely OS updates like the iPhones, then go with a Nexus. Nexus > Android = iPhone > Apple. Anything running Android that is not a Nexus, getting updates are either months late or non-existent. My Galaxy Nexus is almost 2 years old and has newer Android then the G2 does currently. The same thing happened with the G2x, it was released with an older Android build. They promised an update in the next month which was delayed for like 6months. When we got it, it was worse then what we had.
Nexus Phones are open source, so devs can typically fix a problem immediately without waiting for Google, Carrier, or Manufacturer to fix it.
LG just burned everyone so bad in the past with their horrible software support. Almost to the point where I'd rather take a hit on specs just to buy from another manufacturer like Samsung. Samsung has a better update policy but also have a large cult following, so the development community typically is larger.
I've heard several negative stories regarding the update process with LG. Mixed with VZW, I can understand why some would worry more. Now, if you watch football, VZW, who sponsors the NFL, have lots of commercials during games and on the NFL network. I've seen several commercials about the G2 and have on non-football programs as well. While I'm not going to say the carriers are pushing the G2, you can bet LG is. They are proud of this phone and are looking to really turn their image around. Personally, I believe we will see at least ONE big, timely update. LG has a lot invested in this flagship and it feels like we'll be okay here. Hey, it's their first phone they've released on all major carriers. That's saying something.
Yes, I'm being optimistic in a place where it seems it's forbidden. You should try it, feels good.
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Been there and done that. Still being very cautious. Time will tell.
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I had the LG G2x back in the day and it was ruined by closed sources and lack up updates.
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this....
but after using Sony crap, I'm willing to give anything a try.
Slightly off topic but how do you like tmobile? I'm in ny and thinking if switching over.
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What are everyone's expectations on the bootloader situation for the Nexus 6? Is the fact that this is a NEXUS giving anyone hope it will be easy to unlock or will Verizon screw us once more?
I don't think Google would have allowed the Nexus 6 to be on Verizon unless there was an agreement in place that this phone would be handled by google. Then again, Verizon never ceases to disappoint me so ya never know.
I was wondering the exact thing. Before I get too excited... Hopefully this phone doesn't end up being the first nexus that's locked down, and that's why Verizon agreed to it.
From what I can tell there are only two models of the N6, a US version and a Worldwide version. So there's no room for Verizon to lock down the device or delay OTAs for Verizon customers specifically.
My VZW GNex didn't have a locked bootloader, so I don't see why they would be allowed to lock this one down. Locking a Nexus bootloader is sacrilege.
From what I have read on the press release on the N6 while it will be compatible for all carriers and CAN be sold at all carriers once they comply to agreements with Google.
That means that either they have to comply with all that Google is asking for with this device, or they cannot sell it in their carriers. Verizon and AT&T might have to ignore their liberties when coming to that contract, but T-Mobile and Sprint will likely bend over backwards for Google.
I have a feeling at&t and verizon will lock it down and put bloatware on it.
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I have a feeling at&t and verizon will lock it down and put bloatware on it.
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Bloatware, Si; lock down, No!
No Locked bootloader but updates may still come delayed because thats is what is happening with the Nexus 7 2013 LTE when VZW came into the picture.
I'm getting mine through Verizon but the discussion is the same.... will there be any difference between the Play Store and carrier versions. I think one of two scenarios will happen.
A. There's no difference, carriers will load them up with bloat. But who cares? If it's completely unlocked you will be easily able to root, wipe, rom, etc....
B. They lock the bootloaders. This would completely crush carrier sales. The majority of people interested in this phone are Android enthusiasts. Google knows that. Google also has to have good sales through the carriers at the new price point. So they likely would not agree to have a locked down Nexus 6 sold through carriers.
I am fairly confident the phones will be identical. This particular SoC, the 805, unlike all the other Qualcomm kits has discreet radio hardware not on the SoC. All of the 800/801 before it and the 808/810 after it have integrated radio hardware. I think this was an intentional agreement that Motorola/Google brokered with Qualcomm/Carriers. This way they can all sell one identical handset but the carriers will only push radio/modem updates to keep things working on their networks, but they will tell us that all software/OS updates will come from Google directly.
This ushers in a new paradigm in that for the first time we will have a truly unlocked device across all carriers and it is set up that way by design so carriers can control radio hardware and Motorola/Google can control the OS.
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I'm getting mine through Verizon but the discussion is the same.... will there be any difference between the Play Store and carrier versions. I think one of two scenarios will happen.
A. There's no difference, carriers will load them up with bloat. But who cares? If it's completely unlocked you will be easily able to root, wipe, rom, etc....
B. They lock the bootloaders. This would completely crush carrier sales. The majority of people interested in this phone are Android enthusiasts. Google knows that. Google also has to have good sales through the carriers at the new price point. So they likely would not agree to have a locked down Nexus 6 sold through carriers.
I am fairly confident the phones will be identical. This particular SoC, the 805, unlike all the other Qualcomm kits has discreet radio hardware not on the SoC. All of the 800/801 before it and the 808/810 after it have integrated radio hardware. I think this was an intentional agreement that Motorola/Google brokered with Qualcomm/Carriers. This way they can all sell one identical handset but the carriers will only push radio/modem updates to keep things working on their networks, but they will tell us that all software/OS updates will come from Google directly.
This ushers in a new paradigm in that for the first time we will have a truly unlocked device across all carriers and it is set up that way by design so carriers can control radio hardware and Motorola/Google can control the OS.
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Why no C? No bloat, no lock - like the N5?
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Or Verizon says, "You can use the Nexus 6 on our system only if you move to a tiered data plan".
That's a roadblock for me at least.
rootSU said:
Why no C? No bloat, no lock - like the N5?
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Well sure. It's possible. But as long as it's unlocked the addition of bloat is a moot point. You just root and uninstall the bloat. I am not familiar with the N5. None of the Nexus family has gotten my attention until now.
PhantomGamers said:
From what I can tell there are only two models of the N6, a US version and a Worldwide version. So there's no room for Verizon to lock down the device or delay OTAs for Verizon customers specifically.
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Didn't know that, sweet. Well then yeah. Now I'm just wondering about the Turbo.
joshm.1219 said:
Didn't know that, sweet. Well then yeah. Now I'm just wondering about the Turbo.
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I'm seriously considering grabbing the N6 myself, even though the G3 was just recently unlocked I've never had a Nexus. I'm like you though, I see all the valid points as to why our Verizon N6 shouldn't be locked... But it's Verizon lol would it totally surprise you if it did end up being locked down??
The Turbo on the other hand most certainly will be locked down no?
Mistertac said:
I'm seriously considering grabbing the N6 myself, even though the G3 was just recently unlocked I've never had a Nexus. I'm like you though, I see all the valid points as to why our Verizon N6 shouldn't be locked... But it's Verizon lol would it totally surprise you if it did end up being locked down??
The Turbo on the other hand most certainly will be locked down no?
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I will only buy unlocked phones as I still am on the unlimited plan. I really hate that verizon has locked down many phones that I have wanted. I would buy the droid turbo or nexus 6 as long it's unlocked.
The Droid Turbo is probably locked down pretty good, if the previous Droids are any indicator.
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I'm personally looking forward to the Nexus 6 but I'm really hoping it will come bootloader unlocked or I'm seriously considering dumping VZW, after having two straight phones with unlocked bootloaders I'm seriously looking forward to it again
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toddnbrown said:
The Droid Turbo is probably locked down pretty good, if the previous Droids are any indicator.
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I agree with this ... It'll be nice and locked down I'd imagine.
ShapesBlue said:
I'm personally looking forward to the Nexus 6 but I'm really hoping it will come bootloader unlocked or I'm seriously considering dumping VZW, after having two straight phones with unlocked bootloaders I'm seriously looking forward to it again
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Smartest thing to do probably is not get it on launch and just wait and see. I'd think it will be unlocked like many others have said.
One thing I'm wishing the N6 had though was a removable battery. 32/64 GB internal memory makes up for no SD card but... I really like having 2 batteries and it's a 3200mah battery right??
That Turbo battery is ridiculous..
Coming from a GNex running shiny ROM, I'm excited about the N6, I figure it would have to be unlocked being a Nexus device, however VZ has screwed us before.
I'm somewhat worried about the size, but could get over that. I'm figuring that with luck, VZ will place it on edge/installment, no one is going to outright buy it in their store IMO...