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sprint needs new htc love

seems like all the other carriers are in the line up for uber htc phones, in fact i think sprint is the only one of the big 4 not getting nexus, i thought there was hope for this phone, but now i see pics with t-bung-ile on it already =(...
ah well, thanks to fresh my hero roxzors anyway.!
i http://www.slashgear.com/htc-bravo-tipped-for-march-2010-launch-by-3-sweden-1469899/

kraash said:
seems like all the other carriers are in the line up for uber htc phones, in fact i think sprint is the only one of the big 4 not getting nexus, i thought there was hope for this phone, but now i see pics with t-bung-ile on it already =(...
ah well, thanks to fresh my hero roxzors anyway.!
i http://www.slashgear.com/htc-bravo-tipped-for-march-2010-launch-by-3-sweden-1469899/
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i was disappointed at first to hear that verizon would be getting nexus one and not sprint. but with the fact that we'll get 2.1 soon makes it okay for me. plus i'm really just waiting for another great qwerty android device that isn't all blocky like the moto droid.

kraash said:
in fact i think sprint is the only one of the big 4 not getting nexus
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AT&T isn't getting it...

Well, you can run the unlocked one on AT&T using an AT&T SIM, you just don't get 3G access cause the phone is tri-band not quad, and only meant for T-Mobile's 3G.

Got beat to the punch...

What keeps me waiting patiently is talks of qualcom bringing out dual-core 1.5ghz snapdragon cpu later this year, it'll make the nexus old news before you know it.

Dual core snapdragon would be insanity. Great stuff. I'll tell you something though. I am upset with the fact that Sprint isn't getting any of these cool phones either but they historically never have. I mean Palm is a little different because they have always loved Sprint but historically Sprint has never really had the latest and greatest. This could be a good thing though. I mean think about it. Sprint knows Android is big. They also know 2010 is their coming out party for WiMax. My theory is that Sprint is waiting for HTC to come out with a WiMax or EVDO/WiMax hybrid android phone. I expect by summer or, more likely, fall 2010 we will have the latest and greatest WiMax capable 1Ghz+ Android 2.1 (2.5 if it's released by then) phone. I figure by then I can sell my Hero and, assuming I have a job by then, by the coolest phone.
It's all a waiting game. Sad but that's what it all comes down to.

Yeah, Gizmodo has rumors of a Sprint WiMax HTC Android phone.. and from now on obviously HTC will have Snapdragons or better on all their flagship phones. We'll have a better phone than Nexus One with WiMax, which no other carrier will have.. thinkabout it.
In the mean time, embrace in the fact that we had the Hero when nobody else did.

I heard lots of problems of N1.
Google is hurry for the cellphone market.

oxeneers said:
Yeah, Gizmodo has rumors of a Sprint WiMax HTC Android phone.. and from now on obviously HTC will have Snapdragons or better on all their flagship phones. We'll have a better phone than Nexus One with WiMax, which no other carrier will have.. thinkabout it.
In the mean time, embrace in the fact that we had the Hero when nobody else did.
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I work for Sprint and its true about the Android 4g phone it will be comming up and it will be a LG phone don't know name on it but it will be hitting stores when 4g is mostly everywhere.:. I read about the on engaget.com n I'm assuming we will get the phone sometime by the end of 2rd q or beginning of 3rd quarter

eldiablito004 said:
I work for Sprint and its true about the Android 4g phone it will be comming up and it will be a LG phone don't know name on it but it will be hitting stores when 4g is mostly everywhere.:. I read about the on engaget.com n I'm assuming we will get the phone sometime by the end of 2rd q or beginning of 3rd quarter
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Dude, most definitely it won't be a LG phone. They make **** phones to begin with.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/sprint-bringing-on-a9292-wimax-phone-from-htc/
It will be HTC. For sure.

wow dual core 1.5ghz processor..dont think its really necessary since the iphone has full 3d insane graphic games with 600mhz processor..1ghz is great for me..
im seriously wanting to go to tmobile for that nexus one..but that $570 is just killing me and i am not going to pay $80 a month for phone..much rather pay $39 for unlimited internet and just use voip because i have great 3g coverage down here in irvine

i work for sprint to =)
and yes the android device with wiimax WILL be an htc device but also
LG will be making an android device for us called the Prada 3

i think when our hero's get the 2.1 update we will be caught up....thats all we need to catch up i think

sprint HAS to get an android phone with the snapdragon proc..

Joecrack305 said:
i work for sprint to =)
and yes the android device with wiimax WILL be an htc device but also
LG will be making an android device for us called the Prada 3
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any word on when these will hit the market ????

Agree'd, once we get 2.1 it will be great.
Sprint already carries smart phones from Motorola, Samsung, LG, Blackberry and HTC, plus they just added the HTC Touch Pro2. How many smart phones do they need? People need to stop shopping equipment and start thinking about service, rate plans, Monthly fee's, coverage areas and customer assistance, not to mention the reputation of the carrier. Damn, we all pay a monthly bill, its not for the phone we use, its the service plan we all have that compliments whatever phone equipment you want or have. Sprint has given us a nice selection to pick from imo.
Moving on, next topic pls........

looking forward to a 4g HTC Bravo!

eldiablito004 said:
I work for Sprint and its true about the Android 4g phone it will be comming up and it will be a LG phone don't know name on it but it will be hitting stores when 4g is mostly everywhere.:. I read about the on engaget.com n I'm assuming we will get the phone sometime by the end of 2rd q or beginning of 3rd quarter
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one problem with that statement......4g wont be "mostly everywhere" fo a couple more years. Planned for 2010 are Boston, Houston, New York, San Francisco and Washington, D.C. and only a handful of other smaller cities.

dont forget miami conference being held this week exactly
http://4g-wirelessevolution.tmcnet.com/conference/east-10/

Nexus s release date!!

FROM T-MOBILE US FACEBOOK FAN PAGE:
ntroducing Nexus S with Gingerbread! After December 16, Nexus S can be purchased with a T-Mobile service plan from Best Buy and Best Buy Mobile stores in the U.S. Check out this link from the Official Google Blog for all the details.
http://www.facebook.com/#!/TMobile
GOOGLE BLOG
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/introducing-nexus-s-with-gingerbread.html

Lol. Why doesn't that surprise me.
[G2/HTC Vision]

Now, the T-mobile fanboys won’t have to cry and whine about T-mobile not having good Android phones lol

The specs dont surprise me either. Dissappointed.

Sad samsung had to make it. Hopefully the nexus 3 will be made by htc
[G2/HTC Vision]

So not dual-core after all then ?

I still prefer my G2 over it. Just looks wise. I'm not really too big a fan of samsung...plus I like my hardware keyboard. Ain't this the wrong section for this lol
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no hspa+?!
no hspa+ is a dealbreaker for me

Looks pretty cool I suppose but as a piece of hardware I definitely prefer my Desire Z. Gingerbread looks pretty awesome though and I can't wait to try it out myself

You know I think I figured out why Google went with Samsung on production on the Nexus S (aka Nexus II). Samsung is part of the open source handset alliance that with Google helped to form Android, in laymans terms. They had to let Samsung build the next Google phone. basically, they are taking turns. Nexus 3 might be made by LG or Moto... This is just an educated guess and I guess we'll find out more later. But yeah, I totally agree, the only thing that will sell this handset is Android 2.3 and NOT Samsung's awesome device, lol

Here's my biggest question. From the Google page for the Nexus S:
"Nexus S can function as a Wi-Fi hotspot for up to six portable devices such as laptops or tablets. Once connected, these devices will have access to the Internet with no additional carrier fees."
No additional carrier fees. How's that work with what is being posted all over here about T-Mobile redirecting to a "Buy our Tether" page??

I wonder if all Best Buy stores will have this? In my area we have no T-Mobile coverage so they don't sell any T-Mobile phones or is this going to run on AT&T's 3G also? Also are there any rumored prices on this buying it outright?

i thought this was gonna be the next "groundbreaking" android device. like the nexus 1. this is a disappointment. my g2 is more satisfying than this crap.

I am so disappointed that they had to use the same styling and specs as the galaxy s line.. No HSPA+, no hard keyboard, no optical trackpad, no real hd video recording ( 720x480 video recording instead of 1280x720 out of the box) , and horrible design. I'd rather get the mytouch 4g and find a 2.3 rom if I really wanted something like the Nexus S.
Sorry to rant, I'm just so disappointed Google had to make the Nexus S their flagship device. Then again, the contour screen might be interesting. I'd have to see it in real life to judge. At least Samsung finally took out the horrible touchwiz interface, right?

Need 2nd Android phone for wife recommendations on At&t?

The wife's iphone 3g finally is taking a dive. Like to put her into an entry level android based phone that will work on At&t. What phones will work on the at&t network?

http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...2&allFeatures=on&allManus=on#fbid=WbfKe3rhII7

How about the motorola atrix.
Dual core and all the works..
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Are you sure you want an entry level Android phone for her? AT&T doesn't have a particularly good selection of low-end Android devices, and of those available they would hardly compare for a person coming from an iPhone. The HTC Aria is just ridiculously underpowered, and all Motorola devices that I've used with Motoblur have been terrible.
I suggest the Samsung Captivate or the HTC Inspire. They're easy to use and you can pretty much guarantee she won't have anything to complain about in terms of speed and responsiveness.

earlyberd said:
Are you sure you want an entry level Android phone for her? AT&T doesn't have a particularly good selection of low-end Android devices, and of those available they would hardly compare for a person coming from an iPhone. The HTC Aria is just ridiculously underpowered, and all Motorola devices that I've used with Motoblur have been terrible.
I suggest the Samsung Captivate or the HTC Inspire. They're easy to use and you can pretty much guarantee she won't have anything to complain about in terms of speed and responsiveness.
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I would recommend you stay away from the Captivate, it has a few hardware issues that Samsung is not addressing. I am on my sixth Captivate, and all have had issues, and have recently switched to a Nexus One that was given to me. I looked at the HTC Inspire yesterday, it is a pretty nice device. The Motorola Atrix also looks very promising.

If you're not aware, the Vibrant's radio, although a TMo phone, do work on AT&T 3G bands.
Just be careful if she's interested in any of Google's location-based services. I had (have, sitting on my desk now) a Vibrant for awhile and could never resolve the notorious GPS issue. I came back to the Nexus One because of it.

Lancellor said:
How about the motorola atrix.
Dual core and all the works..
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Are these the works?
locked bootloader
bloatware
expensive
motoblur
apparently shipping with Froyo
Froyo (and currently Gingerbread) does not even support dual cores, lol
Engadget says the docking experience is very poor
once Gingerbread supports dual core (maybe April?), Motorola has to push the update out.. my guess is this won't be timely.
For these reasons, there are going to be a LOT of pissed off people who cough up the money for this phone because its "dual core"

I made a post earlier about the atrix . Wasn't aware dual core isn't supported yet on froyo . I'm trying desperately to avoid another iphone (cough) but cannot buy anything through att with the fear of having my account screwed with and losing the unlimited data plans. Have to buy out of pocket and $500 is a bit high for a casual android user. Maybe a used N1 is the way to go.

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I made a post earlier about the atrix . Wasn't aware dual core isn't supported yet on froyo . I'm trying desperately to avoid another iphone (cough) but cannot buy anything through att with the fear of having my account screwed with and losing the unlimited data plans. Have to buy out of pocket and $500 is a bit high for a casual android user. Maybe a used N1 is the way to go.
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I switched my wife's line from iPhone 3GS (unlimited data) to iPhone 4 to Windows Phone 7 and now to Android (N1) and still have the unlimited data (yes, I spoil her and she knows it ). If you previously had unlimited data you'll be grandfathered in and keep your unlimited data plan, unless you ask for a different tier for whatever reason. That's how it was explained to me, and I've switched her line a few times, and I just went from my N1 to an Inspire and still have the unlimited data plan from when I had my iPhone 3G a couple years ago.
With that being said, as I mentioned I just got the Inspire. I'm giving it a week to check it out and see if I like it. I love my N1, and it'll be hard to part with it as my main phone, but it'll stay nearby "just in case"! The Inspire seems pretty nice so far, but everyone's entitled to their own opinion.

I just set up the HTC Inspire 4G for a friend and it is a pretty good experience. Has a little ATT garbage on it that cannot be deleted (you can hide the icons) and also HTC Sense. Actually Sense is not too bad. It is a great price at $99 and just came out last Sunday.
PHIL

I know it is older and not supported by ATT or SE anymore but the Sony Ericsson X10 has been nothing but good to me. The guys over at X10 section here in XDA have some good things going on as far as development goes. 1ghz snapdragon, 8 mp camera, 720p video with flash, 4 inch screen.
I ran it for a while until I gave it to my wife when I got my N1. They are finishing up the 2.3 build and it is all being done with out even cracking the bootloader.

I've got a mint condition att n1 for sale in the marketplace. I highly recommend it!
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crachel said:
Are these the works?
locked bootloader
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motoblur
apparently shipping with Froyo
Froyo (and currently Gingerbread) does not even support dual cores, lol
Engadget says the docking experience is very poor
once Gingerbread supports dual core (maybe April?), Motorola has to push the update out.. my guess is this won't be timely.
For these reasons, there are going to be a LOT of pissed off people who cough up the money for this phone because its "dual core"
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check out this thread...they are saying that dual core support is there, just not for single threaded apps. So really we are waiting on developers to support multiple cores in their apps, but the os already does.

I'd say htc inspire is a good one to pick. Price of a midrange but runs like a high end. Plus htc sense is pretty useful for women in my opinion. And if you wanna change to a different rom later on, it won't be hard cuz htc is fine with customizations.
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Get an HTC Inspire. It rocks I got it on launch day and previously had a Nexus One

For the price you simply can't beat the Inspire 4G, got mine at Costco for 79.99...
I replaced my N1 with this phone and I love it..

HTC Inspire 4G the best choice

I would hang tough a few weeks and see what happens with the atrix. Depending on whether they get root and so on that would probably be the handset to have as it will probably have the longest legs of the bunch depending on how quickly multi core support arrives.

probers1 said:
check out this thread...they are saying that dual core support is there, just not for single threaded apps. So really we are waiting on developers to support multiple cores in their apps, but the os already does.
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agree.. which raises the next point that the apps to take advantage will be games, as the computational requirements for a general purpose cell phone app tends to be minimal, the bottlenecks mostly lying in the cellular connection speeds. for instance, LevelUp can add dual core support all they want, but checking Twitter with Plume just isn't all that needy, hardware wise.
from a specs standpoint, the Atrix is interesting but is basically an expensive, closed gimmick.
dual-core is an important step to push the platform & apps but we are a LONG way from a practical benefit to end users (unless you play games)

I think the main hardware aspect of the atrix that would make me lean to it is the front facing camera. If that phone can be rooted it may be my next device.

Nexus S 4g For Sprint

Lots of people got their dreams come true on the nexus S with 4g anyone gonna get it? I sure am
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/06/sprint-announcing-nexus-s-4g-evo-3d-and-evo-view-tablet-at-cti/ I'm going to update this post now and then btw
-Update- Seems like it isn't a rumor afterall http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/06/sprints-nexus-website-is-coming-soon/
-update-
seems like what engadget said was right try it out http://now.sprint.com/nexus/
I don't really get people who are saying this isn't a "pure google experience" just because they dont get 4g, if you ask me the best part about the phone is the updates it get a official gingerbread and how easy it is to root this phone
-update-
http://forum.androidcentral.com/rumored-devices/65910-http-now-sprint-com-nexus.html
-Extra Update(nothing to do with this, ok maybe a bit)-
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/08/deutsche-telekom-thinking-of-selling-t-mobile-usa-to-sprint/(T-mobile+Sprint)
-Big Update 3/10/11-
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-20041727-251.html
Well seems the Nexus S 3G is going cheap.... is it a cowincedence? http://www.androidcentral.com/grab-nexus-s-best-buy-benjamin
Well its official by Sprint http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/21/nexus-s-4g-confirmed-by-sprints-own-website-first-fully-integ/
Official Releasehttp://www.engadget.com/2011/03/21/google-nexus-s-4g-with-wimax-announced-for-sprint/
T-mobile and AT&T http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/20/atandt-agrees-to-buy-t-mobile-from-deutsche-telekom/ Thinking of switching to Sprint eh?

Its gonna have touchwiz that sucks. The original will be better.
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It seems this one could be either the SPH-D600 or SPH-D720, both of which have recently received certification from the Wi-Fi Alliance, though the SPH-D720 is more likely; the D600 shows WPS support, which is available in TouchWiz-skinned devices but not in stock Gingerbread.
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No TouchWiz. Shame on Engadget for putting together such a confusing description.

j.bruha said:
No TouchWiz. Shame on Engadget for putting together such a confusing description.
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so touch wiz or no?
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j.bruha said:
No TouchWiz. Shame on Engadget for putting together such a confusing description.
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Not really, had to read it again, but they are assuming the Nexus S model number is most likely SPH-D720, since the D600 has WPS support which is only available for Touchwiz devices (WPS is not available for stock Gingerbread devices). That's what I got from reading that sentence.
So it has to be stock Gingerbread. Nexus named phones has been branded to be stock devices. So if they did put customized Android versions on a Nexus named device, then they will probably get a bad backlash from the community for it.

kenvan19 said:
That is ****ed up. Wait a few months and release a 4g version when ours should have had 4g? That is ****ing disgraceful. Its expected from Samsung but Google allowing that bull****? **** this.
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Don't get too upset. A) it'll be on Sprint/NASCAR, and B) will require two radios to use the WiMAX. So if you thought your battery life was poor on your NS now, just you wait!

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Don't get too upset. A) it'll be on Sprint/NASCAR, and B) will require two radios to use the WiMAX. So if you thought your battery life was poor on your NS now, just you wait!
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Im looking for something to replace this phone with anyway. Either a iphone or the optimus
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Don't get too upset. A) it'll be on Sprint/NASCAR, and B) will require two radios to use the WiMAX. So if you thought your battery life was poor on your NS now, just you wait!
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1) Nexus line doesn't get carrier bloatware. And sprint football is actually a great app.
2) I used a sprint wimax phone for 6 months. I don't care that its on sprint I care that Google is allowing our device to be superseded months after its release. We all know our phone should have had 4g to start with and u bought it as the premiere Google device under the impression that I wouldn't be ****ed by Samsung releasing a new version a few months later. Its ****ing pathetic.
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Hopefully they take the time to add a second noise canceling microphone. Because the voice quality of the original nexus s was atrocious compared to the nexus one.

Pretty disappointing.. However, I remember reading a few weeks back when people were mad about the fact the original Samsung Vibrant was 3g and then they were releasing the 4g.. Samsung said that the original Vibrant was fully capable of 4g speeds.. So i'm wondering if its the difference of a radio ? I really dont know much about the technical aspects, im just repeating what I read.. I think it was on BGR.com..
Its funny though, I haven't purchased a samsung phone in years, then this came out and I jumped on it.. If this is the game google is going to play, iPhone 5 is going to be looking VERRRRRY attractive to alot of people, with polished build quality and little to no bugs.. Easy decision if you ask me.

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Pretty disappointing.. However, I remember reading a few weeks back when people were mad about the fact the original Samsung Vibrant was 3g and then they were releasing the 4g.. Samsung said that the original Vibrant was fully capable of 4g speeds.. So i'm wondering if its the difference of a radio ? I really dont know much about the technical aspects, im just repeating what I read.. I think it was on BGR.com..
Its funny though, I haven't purchased a samsung phone in years, then this came out and I jumped on it.. If this is the game google is going to play, iPhone 5 is going to be looking VERRRRRY attractive to alot of people, with polished build quality and little to no bugs.. Easy decision if you ask me.
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You're exactly right. I played this game with Samsung on my Epic 4G and I bought a Nexus S because I wanted to feel like my phone was top of the line for more than a week and that was true of the Nexus One for a long time. It was stupid to release the Nexus S without HSPA+ support given that it the technology was more than available. I've been an Android guy from the beginning. I never wanted an iPhone but you know what? I'm starting to like the way regular updates and support for later iterations. You know what Apple does for people who purchase a current iteration of a phone close to when they announce a new one? They give them money back. What did Samsung do for Vibrant owners when they released the Galaxy S 4G (C'mon its a Vibrant 4G)? Nothing. They left them to twist in the wind and if Google is allowing that to happen to Nexus users here, I'm pretty done with the platform. I'm not paying money to a company that stopped caring about their current devices 10 minutes before they came off the line.
Its pathetic.

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You're exactly right. I played this game with Samsung on my Epic 4G and I bought a Nexus S because I wanted to feel like my phone was top of the line for more than a week and that was true of the Nexus One for a long time. It was stupid to release the Nexus S without HSPA+ support given that it the technology was more than available. I've been an Android guy from the beginning. I never wanted an iPhone but you know what? I'm starting to like the way regular updates and support for later iterations. You know what Apple does for people who purchase a current iteration of a phone close to when they announce a new one? They give them money back. What did Samsung do for Vibrant owners when they released the Galaxy S 4G (C'mon its a Vibrant 4G)? Nothing. They left them to twist in the wind and if Google is allowing that to happen to Nexus users here, I'm pretty done with the platform. I'm not paying money to a company that stopped caring about their current devices 10 minutes before they came off the line.
Its pathetic.
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Iphone it is.
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$80 per month on sprint or $50 on T-Mobile. I think I'll stick with T-Mobile. I quit sprint for this phone anyway, haha.
Also, I'd rather have T-Mobile 3g than wimax/cdma. Better battery life all around. And really guys, do you really need to download anything on a phone faster than 5-7 mbp/s?
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Zardos66 said:
$80 per month on sprint or $50 on T-Mobile. I think I'll stick with T-Mobile. I quit sprint for this phone anyway, haha.
Also, I'd rather have T-Mobile 3g than wimax/cdma. Better battery life all around. And really guys, do you really need to download anything on a phone faster than 5-7 mbp/s?
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To me its not about the download speeds or the money. I too came from Sprint to get this phone. Its a matter of moral standards and care for your customer base, which this move shows that Google cares about neither.

kenvan19 said:
1) Nexus line doesn't get carrier bloatware. And sprint football is actually a great app.
2) I used a sprint wimax phone for 6 months. I don't care that its on sprint I care that Google is allowing our device to be superseded months after its release. We all know our phone should have had 4g to start with and u bought it as the premiere Google device under the impression that I wouldn't be ****ed by Samsung releasing a new version a few months later. Its ****ing pathetic.
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You can’t stop, you can’t stop progress. You can't stop, you can’t stop, no, no, no.
(nor do I think we should).. Sorry man, I'm on google's side here. Can't stop trying to raise the bar just because someone that didn't think their phone would see faster ones released after it would be butthurt.
Tmo ns still rocks, regardless.
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You can’t stop, you can’t stop progress. You can't stop, you can’t stop, no, no, no.
(nor should I think we should).. Sorry man, I'm on google's side here. Can't stop trying to raise the bar just because someone that didn't think their phone would see faster ones released after it would be butthurt.
Tmo ns still rocks, regardless.
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I can't figure out wth you're trying to say in that first line but I assume its something to the effect of you can't stop progress and I'm not asking that. I'm asking that they not release a phone with certain features and with certain features lacking then release the same phone with the features it lacked a few months later. There is no "progress" progress here. Sprint's first WiMax phone was released in July of last year; 9 months ago. Tmobile's first "4G" phone? November 2010; 5 months ago. Verizon was behind the curve but they are using completely different technology. When the Nexus S was announced there was already one semi-4G phone (T-Mobile G2) and one full 4G phone (T-Mobile MyTouch 4G). Where is the "progress" in releasing the same phone with a feature that already existed. If they released a Nexus 3 with dual core, sure I'd be angry that they announced it a mere 2.5 months after the previous iteration was announced but it would be a different phone. This is the exact same phone with feature that should have been released with the original added in for ****s and giggles. Its not "butthurt", its moral indignation. The same moral indignation I'm sure Vibrant owners felt because that was just as bull**** a move.
And how is this a faster phone? Its literally the exact same phone? Am I "butthurt" it didn't come with a dual core? No. I think its a little silly but I still love my phone, or loved I should say. Am I "butthurt" that the Galaxy S 2 does have a dual core? Or that the G2X is dual core? **** no. I chose this phone because I thought it would be supported for at least 6 or 7 months and this is a pretty ****ing clear indication that Google doesn't give a flying **** about the current user base.
Oh, and WiMax sucks. Its by far the worst implementation of "4G" and the company pushing it out (Clearwire)is in pretty significant financial trouble as is the company paying for the services (Sprint). Verizon and T-Mobile have much better existing coverage for their "4G" and have higher speed potential with existing hardware. There is no progress here, its just shafting a bunch of users for a feature that should have been included to begin with.

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I can't figure out wth you're trying to say in that first line but I assume its something to the effect of you can't stop progress and I'm not asking that. I'm asking that they not release a phone with certain features and with certain features lacking then release the same phone with the features it lacked a few months later. There is no "progress" progress here. Sprint's first WiMax phone was released in July of last year; 9 months ago. Tmobile's first "4G" phone? November 2010; 5 months ago. Verizon was behind the curve but they are using completely different technology. When the Nexus S was announced there was already one semi-4G phone (T-Mobile G2) and one full 4G phone (T-Mobile MyTouch 4G). Where is the "progress" in releasing the same phone with a feature that already existed. If they released a Nexus 3 with dual core, sure I'd be angry that they announced it a mere 2.5 months after the previous iteration was announced but it would be a different phone. This is the exact same phone with feature that should have been released with the original added in for ****s and giggles. Its not "butthurt", its moral indignation. The same moral indignation I'm sure Vibrant owners felt because that was just as bull**** a move.
And how is this a faster phone? Its literally the exact same phone? Am I "butthurt" it didn't come with a dual core? No. I think its a little silly but I still love my phone, or loved I should say. Am I "butthurt" that the Galaxy S 2 does have a dual core? Or that the G2X is dual core? **** no. I chose this phone because I thought it would be supported for at least 6 or 7 months and this is a pretty ****ing clear indication that Google doesn't give a flying **** about the current user base.
Oh, and WiMax sucks. Its by far the worst implementation of "4G" and the company pushing it out (Clearwire)is in pretty significant financial trouble as is the company paying for the services (Sprint). Verizon and T-Mobile have much better existing coverage for their "4G" and have higher speed potential with existing hardware. There is no progress here, its just shafting a bunch of users for a feature that should have been included to begin with.
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Get over it man. It's not a big deal, even in principe. I've bought 3 phones in a year (n1, g2, ns) so I am definitely not one to sit idly while my phone ages and be complacent with it. I just like gadgets. But this is just the way this industry works. I personally don't care if my ns supports hspa or hspa+. You'll never notice the difference in day to day unless you download gigabytes of data a day. Tmo supposedly caps you after 5 anyway. (i usually only use about 300M/mo because I jump on wifi every chance I can.
Also, google isn't dropping 'support' for this phone just because sprint us getting a 4g version. On the contrary the 'platform' is widening. Did the at&t version that passed fcc have hspa+?
Those were Clutch lyrics. One of my favorite bands.
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Glad to see people are realizing what terrible customer service Google has. They just don't care. They're concerned with getting Android on as many devices as they can so they can rake in the ad revenue. They're just happy releasing stuff in perpetual Beta

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Get over it man. It's not a big deal, even in principe. I've bought 3 phones in a year (n1, g2, ns) so I am definitely not one to sit idly while my phone ages and be complacent with it. I just like gadgets. But this is just the way this industry works. I personally don't care if my ns supports hspa or hspa+. You'll never notice the difference in day to day unless you download gigabytes of data a day. Tmo supposedly caps you after 5 anyway. (i usually only use about 300M/mo because I jump on wifi every chance I can.
Those were Clutch lyrics. One of my favorite bands.
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I've owned four phones in the last 6 months (MT3G, Epic 4G, Evo 4G, NS all of them bought in the last year the last three in the last 6 months). You'll never see the difference between 3-5MBps and 20+MBps in daily use? Really? Typically, it takes my laptop (on comcast cable) less than a second to load the Engadget website whereas my phone takes 5, sometimes 10 seconds to load the same page on 3G. On WiMax (with a theoretical topspeed of 20MBps but it runs more frequently around 10MBps) it loads around the same time. On T-Mobile's HSPDA? It would be faster than on my computer. Sure, I'm on WiFi a good portion of the time but when I'm not it is often painfully slow trying to do anything.
For example, the other day my wife was getting fed up with Swype while she we were both at work. She wanted to use the keyboard I use (a modified gingerbread keyboard) so I tried to email it to her but the 5.25MB file just sat in my phones outbox for 20 minutes. So I decided to upload it to my dropbox which took an astonishing 7 minutes. I know the area I was in had 4G coverage and I know if I could have been on 4G it would have been almost instant. Its not progress its just bull****. Sell them a phone without a feature they want then release it again with the new feature and get them to buy it again. Its ethically wrong.

meetagrawal said:
Glad to see people are realizing what terrible customer service Google has. They just don't care. They're concerned with getting Android on as many devices as they can so they can rake in the ad revenue. They're just happy releasing stuff in perpetual Beta
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You mean they are a corporation trying to make money and not spending millions to give the world a big gift? If you ask me, no android is not prefect, what is? Nothing. It's better than the alternatives for my needs and tastes. If google has an agenda to try to turn a profit with it, they are no different than any of they other companies.
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Nexus Prime or Samsung Hercules?

Just a general question, which one would you get? I personally was excited for the hercules, but when I found out the nexus prime is also coming out in october and saw the specs on it, I may lean towards the nexus prime. Only thing it will be missing is touchwiz.

Nexua Prime if you.dont want to wait forever for software update

Nexus prime. Don't think about getting a carrier based phone.
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Prime, duh. Most likely same hardware with no branding.
When I say most likely same hardware, because the Nexus devices have had a device that is similar but has a skin or something of that nature on it. Desire for the Nexus (even though it was released later) and the Galaxy S for the Nexus S.

Speculation and wishing is irrelevant.

TheSneakerWhore said:
Speculation and wishing is irrelevant.
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But fun!

Prime or international unlocked phone
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I was in the same boat. For the last little while Ive been patiently waiting & salivating at the Hercules. But after hearing about the Prime and reading all the great reviews on the previous Nexus S, my opinion is now swaying towards the Prime.

prime to go along with my nexus s and nexus1

I'd prefer not to ever buy a Samsung product ever again as I feel so burned by my Vibrant (from the GPS standpoint alone).
If I had to pick....no doubt....Prime. Regular and fast firmware updates. I don't view the lack of Touchwiz as a drawback.

I stepped up to the Photon.
GSM and CDMA, yep it takes SIM cards.
Dual core lovin baby and a GPS that kicks bootay
Or..
you can wait for a Galaxy S2

Hercules for me =)
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I want that 720p super amoled screen

Nexus Prime looks more attractive except for the 5MP camera

Nexus Prime of course !
i have T-mobile vibrant now and still stuck with 2.2 !!!

shehriih said:
Nexus Prime of course !
i have T-mobile vibrant now and still stuck with 2.2 !!!
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Only concern I have about Nexus Prime.... I am on T-Mobile with the Even More Plus plan where you pay your phone on installment... on the new plans this will be called a Value Plan, but basically the same thing... no subsidized phones, you pay installments...
No problem... except that Nexus S for TMO has been through Best Buy ONLY, and you can't do Equipment Installment Plan (EIP) through Best Buy... only subsidized, which you can't do on a Plus/Value plan with TMO. which has meant that if I wanted to get a Nexus S (as I was considering as a friend wants my Vibrant) I would have to pay full price UP FRONT... ... and this will be the same whenever the Nexus Prime comes out most likely.
so in short... TMO has me screwed whichever way I go... Unless they offer the Nexus Prime in company stores on on the website where I can get EIP, which they haven't done in the past....

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so in short... TMO has me screwed whichever way I go... Unless they offer the Nexus Prime in company stores on on the website where I can get EIP, which they haven't done in the past....
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While I hope it does come to TMO and hopefully come there first do you have any reason to think that's where it will debut?

lotherius said:
Only concern I have about Nexus Prime.... I am on T-Mobile with the Even More Plus plan where you pay your phone on installment... on the new plans this will be called a Value Plan, but basically the same thing... no subsidized phones, you pay installments...
No problem... except that Nexus S for TMO has been through Best Buy ONLY, and you can't do Equipment Installment Plan (EIP) through Best Buy... only subsidized, which you can't do on a Plus/Value plan with TMO. which has meant that if I wanted to get a Nexus S (as I was considering as a friend wants my Vibrant) I would have to pay full price UP FRONT... ... and this will be the same whenever the Nexus Prime comes out most likely.
so in short... TMO has me screwed whichever way I go... Unless they offer the Nexus Prime in company stores on on the website where I can get EIP, which they haven't done in the past....
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So just start saving now?

kymira said:
I was in the same boat. For the last little while Ive been patiently waiting & salivating at the Hercules. But after hearing about the Prime and reading all the great reviews on the previous Nexus S, my opinion is now swaying towards the Prime.
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Yea, the only thing lesser about the prime would be the 5mp camera(that still does 1080p video according to rumors) that is supposed to have better sensors for low light conditions. Since I have a vibrant, better sensors is all I could want, and if it DOES do 1080p then it should be hackable to do 8mp pics(I have hacked so many cameras, camera phones are easy).
I didn't like the fragmentation that the SGS1 had, the same kind I think the SGS2 will have here.. I fear the communities will be smaller because of that, therefore less support, unlike for nexus S. If the prime goes tmobile, I would jump it like no tomorrow, unless some new information surfaces that really makes it bad, that's where I put my money.

i doubt it will come to tmobil! i bet it will be a verizon exclusive according to rumors. Imj getting a hercules! i hope they dont push it back to the oct 26...