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Lets say if I theoretically shut off my vibrant and call T-Mobile and told them I lost my vibrant while shopping. Paid the insurance fee for another vibrant. Once I received my vibrant, gave my old vibrant to my girl, would she be able to use it or would T-Mobile lock the phone? And if T-Mobile would lock my original phone, is there a way to unlock it and use it? Just theoretically speaking!
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I suggest you ask T-Mobile directly....

Insurance fraud...

Theoretically you would be committing a crime. Not going to be an accessory.
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They can't"lock" it but I assume it'd be confusing if you both had the same sim card...but if she has a T-Mobile similar card of her own with data plans and etc yes it would work and T-Mobile wouldn't find out this is similar to buying the vibrant for $500 without the Contract.
So yes. Do what I said and it will work
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Your Sooooo Smart
Something to think about however. [Side note: I love how stupid criminals always post there illegal activities publicly and get caught. I will be listening for this one on my local radio station's "To stupid to live" spot in the near future.]
You post this in a VERY public VERY highly trafficed public forum frequented by both developers and T-Mobile employees. You used your normal account that already has your location (Bakersfield), 10 prior posts, and (via a warrant that you gave cause for with you original post) log files that tie you to your IP address with dates and times of every time you visit this site. Surely most if not all of those IP addresses (assuming they are dynamic and actually change) all belong to the same ISP who can easily look at there records and see which subscriber had the IP address at those times. Your ISP has your real name, address, phone number etc.
Two warrants later and the circumstantial evidence just became concrete enough to convict you.
But please, tell us more of your theoretical plan.

Nothing will happen, I done it with a few phones from tmobile. One thing though they wont send you the phone completly free, you will pay something like $50
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mikaeldalc said:
Lets say if I theoretically shut off my vibrant and call T-Mobile and told them I lost my vibrant while shopping...
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To start with this crap makes the cost of products go up for the ready off us that don't game the system...but hey, go for it, see of you get caught.
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mikaeldalc said:
Lets say if I theoretically shut off my vibrant and call T-Mobile and told them I lost my vibrant while shopping. Paid the insurance fee for another vibrant. Once I received my vibrant, gave my old vibrant to my girl, would she be able to use it or would T-Mobile lock the phone? And if T-Mobile would lock my original phone, is there a way to unlock it and use it? Just theoretically speaking!
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I hope they use your cell phone imei and prosecute you

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I hope they use your cell phone imei and prosecute you
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Oh Snap! I totally missed the "Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App" part when I explained earlier exactly how they wold find him. The ID10T actually sent this crap from his phone!! When his girlfriend uses the "LOST" phone they can bust them both.
LOL

I wont go into a big long post about how your theory is wrong (criminal), or how you will be caught its been covered. Oh wait nobody mentioned karma. I'll just say that its people like you that make it hard for the rest of us. First you drive up prices. Second you make it so that people with legitimate claims have to jump through hoops. So go ahead on with your fraud I for one know that if you go ahead with your scheme karma will catch up.
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T313C0mun1s7 said:
Something to think about however. [Side note: I love how stupid criminals always post there illegal activities publicly and get caught. I will be listening for this one on my local radio station's "To stupid to live" spot in the near future.]
You post this in a VERY public VERY highly trafficed public forum frequented by both developers and T-Mobile employees. You used your normal account that already has your location (Bakersfield), 10 prior posts, and (via a warrant that you gave cause for with you original post) log files that tie you to your IP address with dates and times of every time you visit this site. Surely most if not all of those IP addresses (assuming they are dynamic and actually change) all belong to the same ISP who can easily look at there records and see which subscriber had the IP address at those times. Your ISP has your real name, address, phone number etc.
Two warrants later and the circumstantial evidence just became concrete enough to convict you.
But please, tell us more of your theoretical plan.
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Yeah right. Them doing any of this for one phone, highly unlikely. The legal system sucks. Sad but true.
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vetvito said:
Yeah right. Them doing any of this for one phone, highly unlikely. The legal system sucks. Sad but true.
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Don't worry, he's a wuss, that's why he came here to ask instead of just doing it. The fact that they can easily find out will be enough to scare him, doesn't matter if they actually do it.

Telanis said:
Don't worry, he's a wuss, that's why he came here to ask instead of just doing it. The fact that they can easily find out will be enough to scare him, doesn't matter if they actually do it.
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how about that lady that got taken to court for downloading songs from napster she is facing a 21k fine different I know but why take the chance

This was a hypothetical question...ammirighhtt?? Two words eye may.
Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.

Hey hey, this is just theoretically thinking. Why all the hate mail... u
If it happens sooner or later, it would just b coincidence........

mikaeldalc said:
Hey hey, this is just theoretically thinking. Why all the hate mail... u
If it happens sooner or later, it would just b coincidence........
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Dude, you are scum. Dispense with the humor, because no one is amused by jerkoffs like you.
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mikaeldalc said:
Lets say if I theoretically shut off my vibrant and call T-Mobile and told them I lost my vibrant while shopping. Paid the insurance fee for another vibrant. Once I received my vibrant, gave my old vibrant to my girl, would she be able to use it or would T-Mobile lock the phone? And if T-Mobile would lock my original phone, is there a way to unlock it and use it? Just theoretically speaking!
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Well just theoretically speaking you would theoretically go to jail because that is theoretically insurance fraud and T-Mobile & Asurion, the theoretical insurance company about which you theoretically speak of can theoretically track IMEI's in use, and since Asurion is the primary theoretical insurance company for every theoretical wireless carrier, they would theoretically be able to track it no matter which theoretical wireless company your theoretical girlfriend was theoretically on. Theoretically speaking, of course.

[PETITION] reverse cellphone unlocking ban as of 1/26/13

my fellow xda members, as of 1/26/13 unlocking cellphones in the US will be illegal. its sad to think congress actually passed this ban, but it seems to be the case.. if youd like to read more into what all this means, heres a good link you can read up on.
yeah, theres an actual unlocking section in the general area of xda, but if theres ever been a movement deserving of getting posted everywhere people will see, i cant think of a better cause. a petition has been raised on our governments official website. please sign, share, and spread the word. im sure xda members more than anyone else realize the negative effects, and huge step in the wrong direction this is for openness in not just the android community, but all mobile communities.
petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/make-unlocking-cell-phones-legal

Good thing I'm in the UK, Congress need to reconsider the Anthem of the United States.
"Land of the Free"
"I can't unlock my Phone "

Poor US

TheCraig said:
Good thing I'm in the UK, Congress need to reconsider the Anthem of the United States.
"Land of the Free"
"I can't unlock my Phone "
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Why can't you unlock your phone? Call your provider, pay the fee (usually £15) and wall-ah 1 unlocked S3
Great result against Chelsea btw :laugh:
Sorry. Must learn to read the irony first time around

This isn't quite as bad as it sounds on the surface. Just to clarify, it will still be "legal" to root/jailbreak the phone (which of course is totally different than unlocking). And you will still be able to pay the full unsubsidized price for the phone and legally unlock it, or just buy an unlocked phone from the beginning - for example, I will still be able to use the unlocked Nexus 4 if I choose, and when the Galaxy S4 comes out, I will still be able to purchase the unlocked international version on Amazon (or wherever) and "legally" use it on compatible U.S. carriers. This new change in the law only applies to when you buy the much cheaper carrier-subsidized phone which locks you into a contract. Some carriers even release subsidized unlocked phones (such as the Verizon iPhone 5). Other carriers (e.g. AT&T) will let you unlock the phone when you're out of contract. In reality, unlocking smartphones in the U.S. doesn't buy you much anyway, due to the all the incompatibilities between the carriers. It's not like you can unlock an AT&T LTE phone and expect to use it on Verizon, or vice versa, due to incompatible LTE bands.
That being said, I'm not really in favor of this whole "can't unlock" thing, but just wanted to point out it's not as bad as it initially sounds.

Land of the free? Or land of the do what you are told by corporations?
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The main issue people have with this is you are now FORCED to pay extortionate international charges. If I want to make an international call I can just throw a sim in for cheap international calls, if I go abroad I can throw another sim in to avoid paying to receive calls.
All reasons to unlock.
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Painman1963 said:
Why can't you unlock your phone? Call your provider, pay the fee (usually £15) and wall-ah 1 unlocked S3
Great result against Chelsea btw :laugh:
Sorry. Must learn to read the irony first time around
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Thank you, it was a great game!
I buy unlocked phones anyway but this is kind of stupid to make it illegal.

Over 100,000 Signatures Completed!
Over 100,000 Signatures met! Hope this ban is removed or I will need to close that business
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pe...gov&utm_medium=shorturl&utm_campaign=shorturl
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/0...-unlocking-ban-will-get-white-house-response/
-From another small business owner in the US getting screwed by our beloved government but on an unlocked Evo Running Solstice Rom with Samsung Galaxy Tablet Spoof by me

Latest news from US:
Two workers of superstore arrested after unlocking the box of Apples without the license.
The State Court of Louisiana in the sentence sent both for 5x lifetime to jail, stating that such act of piracy should be pursued and punished by the full force of the US Law.
The box itself was confiscated and destroyed because it had the round corner, what was additional violation of the Apple's patent in US.

Welcome to the NWO of Corporate Fascism. Heil The Rothschild's and the Round Table of the Sovereign State of The City of London. Can you guess the other two sovereign states of power? District of Columbia and Vatican City.
I suggest the following movies to get accustomed. Brazil, A Brave New World, 1984, They are Watching, Logans Run and Minority Report.
Pre crime is coming Obama is onto it with big pharm already! They shall probably call it the Sandy gene and put people with it in FEMA camps.
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Disregard.

Unlocking now Illegal

I'm not sure if anyone has seen this but I found it pretty cool that they used a picture of our trusty OG incredible...
http://www.longisland.com/news/01-27-13/unlocking-smarthphones-now-illegal.html
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RepeatUntilTheEnd said:
I'm not sure if anyone has seen this but I found it pretty cool that they used a picture of our trusty OG incredible...
http://www.longisland.com/news/01-27-13/unlocking-smarthphones-now-illegal.html
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Damn government, always screwing the little guy. Oh well its not like its going to stop people from doing it anyways. I have been seriously thinking of switching my service to straight talk, and this news changes nothing. Tell them to come get me.

RepeatUntilTheEnd said:
I'm not sure if anyone has seen this but I found it pretty cool that they used a picture of our trusty OG incredible...
http://www.longisland.com/news/01-27-13/unlocking-smarthphones-now-illegal.html
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I don't know why they picked a CDMA phone for the picture when usually only GSM phones are even unlockable for carriers. Technically flashing an inc on straight talk is not unlocking it.
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tiny4579 said:
I don't know why they picked a CDMA phone for the picture when usually only GSM phones are even unlockable for carriers. Technically flashing an inc on straight talk is not unlocking it.
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None of the articles I've read mention the N4, or how comparable the price is to phones on contract. I guess I can't really talk, since I'm still with big red.
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The Nexus 4 comes unlocked. I guess it's above the law then.
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Ah yes, leave it to the government to try to forbid people from messing with the device that they paid for. Well, it's not as if it'll stop anything whatsoever.

This is kind of disturbing if you ask me...
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One good thing is that the law only applies to phones purchased after the law goes into affect - so anything before that is fine to unlock.
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scals37 said:
This is kind of disturbing if you ask me...
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Digital Millennium Copyright Act, the gift that keeps on giving to lawyers and corporati.
Incidentally, a few clarifications. I see people making the same wrong assumptions about this ruling again and again.
1.) Unlocking your phone is not illegal. What IS illegal is for you, the end-consumer, to unlock or otherwise edit the firmware/OS installed on the phone from the factory. This means that we, the citizenry of XDA and similar forums, are guilty of violations of the DMCA, because the carriers (Sprint, ATT, VZW, etc) actually hold the copyrights to the firmware's installed on the phone.
1a.) The carriers, however, CAN unlock the phone for you, legally. Most of the carriers have come forward and said that they will still unlock devices so long as you have met your original contract obligations. Now, this is great if you've bought a new device. Unfortunately, it means any Non-pay or otherwise blacklisted phone on Craigslist or ebay is still screwed.
1b.) New, Unlocked devices such as Nexus, Galaxy, and Incredible International are still, and will always remain, legally unlocked. The firmware found on these devices is owned by Google or by the device's original manufacture, and they are unlikely to proactively start locking such devices just to lock out the reseller community.
2.) Any device purchased or unlocked prior to January 26, 2013 can still be legally unlocked and used on any compatible network.
2a.) Carriers won't retroactively kick your device off of their network if it is illegally unlocked. Nor can they impose any special usage fines or taxes of utilizing an unlocked device. A "locked" cellphone is one which has been firmware coded to its own carrier's network.
2b.) The only person or group who can take action against you for illegally unlocking your phone is the Librarian of Congress (who made this ruling and is the conservator of DMCA exception law) or the carrier who originally sold the device to you, as they are the ones holding the copyrights to the firmware. They cannot, generally, tell some other network to not host your device. Obviously they can ASK a competitor not to host your unlocked device, but they can't actually stop them doing so.
2c.) The original vendor of the phone (Sprint, ATT, VZW, etc) can, however, sue you under the DMCA for violating their copyrights. This is identical to lawsuits used to penalize movie and music downloaders. However, since phone unlocks are generally not "shared" in the same way that music, movie, and game downloads are, an aggressive lawsuit by a patent troll or copyright bully holds little potential profit because they'd only be able to claim a single violation, not the sort of perpetual resharing that goes on with torrent users.
3.) While jailbreaking/unlocking/rooting a phone is illegal now, re-romming a phone is still a grey area. IE, completely replacing the firmware on your phone with a homebrew is not illegal in the same way that a simple unlock or jailbreak code is. Since you're not technically changing someone else's copyright protected software so much as simply deleting and replacing it.
3a.) Unfortunately, because most custom roms are still based in one form or another on the factory rom, you MIGHT still be sued unless, as in the case of older devices like the DINC, all original drivers and firmware's have been open-sourced to the community. It's unlikely that HTC would go after someone unlocking an Incredible series phone since you can legally root most HTC devices from their website; but other carriers and manufacturer's may not take the same view in the future.
There is also a division between hardware manufacturer's and carriers. Carriers lobbied long and hard FOR this ruling, because it is in their best interest to keep you chained to them for as long as possible, and a person who just spent several hundred dollars on a device is unlikely to be willing to simply ****can that device at the end of two years in order to move to another carrier and repeat the expensive process with a new device (unless you own an apple product, in which you're already indoctrinated to all of this ). Sell such a device, yes; dispose of it, no. So having a locked device makes you stickier since you'll use it for longer before parting with it, and if you can only use it legally on their network, then you are stuck with them since you can't resell/unlock it to recoup even part of your investment as you can currently by simply unlocking it or having a reseller do it for you.
Device manufacturers, on the other hand, have a vested interest in keeping their units in use as long as possible, regardless of what carrier it is operating on. Having a unit of hardware able to be reused on multiple carriers breeds customer loyalty to the hardware manufacturer in the same way a reliable car or home appliance does, and increasingly people are seeking out devices based not on the name of the carrier but the name of the phone. Already it's a lot less common to ask who a carrier is than what a phone is; particularly when the same device is available on multiple competing networks.
The best we can hope for is that this will all come to a head in 2 years as the first generation of legally locked phones start coming up for resale and people find themselves face with either throwing them away, sticking with their current carrier, or breaking the law.

What I find curious...
In every article and argument I have read; the carriers framed the argument around "Unlocking / Rooting so we can change service providers." If I were a phone carrier, I wouldn't want my customers to be able to leave either. Sounds reasonable on the surface.
However....I think most of us would agree, that the vast majority do NOT unlock and root for the sake of changing carriers. In fact that argument is already very weak and flawed,
With two standards (GSM vs CDMA), some technical differences in phone models that prevent differing networks from connecting with the devices, and only a handful of carriers....you don't have a lot of options...so not much point.
The phone carriers can refuse service to devices they didn't sell and were in no way required to do so, however it would be in their long-term interest.
The steep financial penalty for leaving a carrier before the contract expires easily covers the "subsidy" at the time of purchase.
Basically....rooting just to switch carriers doesn't make sense
What do we unlock/root for?
Control of our devices.
Control of our privacy and data.
"Fixing" the bugs ( ask me about the ASUS Transformer ICS updates...HA!!!)
Excessive bloatware, like three book reading apps on my tablet...(seriously)
Customizing the device to our needs
...the list is long and the consumers don't have a voice in these issues.. Worse yet to my opinion, this legal ruling actually cripples the end user. Without root access the task of managing and monitor apps, permissions, data, etc has more challenges and limitations , especially without any Android "stock" apps for the purpose. I mean, they didn't even make a file manager. I'll spare you all my usual Google rant. Just imagine what the teaming millions of non-tech, non-xda have to live with....when was the last time you had to work with a device without Titanium Backup, Root Explorer and such? (scares me)
Sorry, my point is...they used a bogus argument to get what they wanted, with them in control of our property and data.
Final thought..how long do you think it will take before we see the first "Price gouging/manipulation" lawsuits against the carriers? They price an unlocked phone so high that no one purchases them. I get it, why pay $650 for a phone with no contract, but you pay the same monthly charges.....when you can get one for $50 and two years of contract? Also, for the record, I do believe that the legality of unlocking/rooting only applies to carrier subsidized devices made and purchased after the above date, and not ones sold at full retail, purposefully unlocked. I'm no expert, but just based on the price differences between 3g/4g and WiFi only tablets, you frakkin know the carriers are messing around with pricing.
WOW...sorry for being long-winded and thanks!

Seems the White House agrees that we should be able to unlock our phones.
http://gizmodo.com/5988388/white-house-you-should-be-able-to-unlock-your-phone-if-you-own-it

Change.org Petition AT&T Re: Bootloader Unlock: now with 1,678 supporters

YES. 1,678 signatures! I have to admit even I am impressed that this thing KEEPS getting new signatures daily. I want to thank some of the Devs who provided links on the OP page for ROMs they developed, and if we continue to spread the word, I see no reason that 5,000 signatures could be reached. If AT&T chooses to ignore that many people, it will be a good indicator of how foolish they have truly become. Keep 'em coming! I am seeing many new signatures every day. Posting links to it is one thing I know that works: Go to any Facebook Page (I have only hit AT&T and Samsung, post a few words and this link:
Please support this campaign/sign this petition: http://chn.ge/192KeHy <- Paste this on any Facebook Page or when you leave comments in Blogs or tech sites. On Faceboot it creates a nice link with a graphic.
For all the negative types that pop in here just to say "stop dreaming, it won't make the slightest difference" - I agree that this is just a "blip" on the radar of AT&T Execs such as Ralph de la Vega's radar, but it's one noisy, annoying, won't go away blip, and it keeps upsetting his "vison". -isn't that just special
Pasting the link I provide below into threads on this subject seems to be very effective in creating a buzz.
This is simply to let AT&T know that they have alienated the folks who people go for tech advice when they BUY a new phone or UPGRADE an existing device. . Guess what we are going to tell them about AT&T's Note 3?
This is ALSO a way to get word out that it is locked. The average consumer has no idea, doesn't even know what locked bootloader will do or not do.
Copy and paste the links below anywhere on the web. See a site saying how wonderful the Note 3 is? Paste the link. Hit em wherever you express yourself. I want AT&T to know they have crossed the line with this move. Will they change policy? Probably not, they are not Asus or HTC, but I still believe that the alternative; to just accept this is to give AT&T permission to find MORE to take away from us is UNACCEPTABLE!!!!. It was a petition (an the work of New York Senator Al Damato that got people the right to port phone #'s to a new carrier. Before that you were often locked to a carrier by your number. Also petitioning ASUS 2 years ago got us an unlocker (and warranty "voider") for the Transformer Prime.
The petition is not a static document. Every new signature sends an email to each of the following AT&T Executives:
Randall L. Stephenson - Chairman and Chief Executive Office
Ralph de la Vega - President and Chief Executive Officer - AT&T Mobility
John Donovan - Senior Executive Vice President, AT&T Technology and Network Operations
John T. Stankey - Group President and Chief Strategy Officer
Links you can paste:
Link for the Change.org Pettion here:
Please join this campaign/sign petition: http://chn.ge/192KeHy <- Paste this everywhere you leave comments...
Help blitz on AT&T's Social Media Pages on FaceBook
https://www.facebook.com/ATT
We REALLY need to make our voice heard at Samsung, who, as a partner to AT&T, may have additional influence when they know that THEIR business will be affected as well.
https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobile
Go to these sites, and blitz the wall with this line: AT&T: Unlock OUR Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Bootloader! or Samsung: Please ask AT&T to Unlock OUR Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Bootloader!
Some of us are, unfortunately not financially equipped to run out and get a T-Mobile N3.
I can guarantee you if we just grumble and sulk about it, or even go elsewhere with our business without making sure that AT&T knows WHY we did it, not only will nothing change, but the same a$$es that made this policy will be planning new ways to screw with us. Feel like its a waste of time? Is less than 2 minutes to sign a petition too much trouble? Great. You can just accept whatever they want to take away next.NOT signing is comparable to standing there while a mugger robs and beats someone who is helpless to defend themselves and not even yelling "Hey, leave that person alone" to the creep doing the crime.

I second that motion! Im really not happy that at&t is choosing to lock down their phones, its my damn phone. I pay a monthly service fee for the spotty coverage and another $200 + for the phone, I should be able to do whatever I damn well please with it. I really want to get the note 3 but the locked bootloader is a deal breaker for me.
I say unlock the bootloader or your going to have a lot of pissed off people looking to buy elsewhere or jump ship. I know at least one person who has already gone to t mobile!
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You'll have my signature if you go forward with this.
I got my AT&T Note 3 today and was rather distraught that there's currently no root option available for it...But there certainly IS for the TMobile variant!!

You my signature
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I will sign in a heartbeat. Worth a shot and can't hurt
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I've already seen this dozens of times. You already bought the phone, they know you will forget by the next phone. Look trough the Atrix, DX ect ect. No amount of petitions will change there mind.

You've got mine. This is why I'm not getting a note 3 yet.

I'll sign twice, you don't need an ID to vote in most states, I'm sure I can make up a few names! lol But really, I've been blasting AT&T's twitter wanting an answer as to why. Even referencing the droves of consumers running to purchase a TMob version and sim unlocking! I don't think they care, but it makes me feel better to complain!

I'm in for this
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YellowGTO said:
I've already seen this dozens of times. You already bought the phone, they know you will forget by the next phone. Look trough the Atrix, DX ect ect. No amount of petitions will change there mind.
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As much as I want to bootloader unlocked I have to agree 1000% with this.
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Im in..... If AT&T does not want to unlock the bootloader then they should offer a dev edition of the Note 3! It would have been even better to offer it on launch day! Anyway you have my signature!
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I'm seriously thinking of switching service over this one issue. I've been with AT&T for years. They need to listen to their customers or lose business.
Yes...I'll sign it. :highfive:

I have subscribed to this topic. You have my vote.
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You have my support, we should be able to do what we want to with OUR phones.
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YellowGTO said:
I've already seen this dozens of times. You already bought the phone, they know you will forget by the next phone. Look trough the Atrix, DX ect ect. No amount of petitions will change there mind.
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Sure, I agree too... But that's not going to stop me from TRYING or voicing my opinion.

I'm in! Get the petition up, i have at least 5 people that are ready and willing to sign!

I'm definitely in. Yea its been done before and no it probably won't work. But hell, I'm all about taking a stand. I've got the GN3 and Ive already listed the phone to sell it. I've already decided to take the money and buy the T-Mobile version. This locked bootloader has burnt my ass since I bought the S4. Its ridiculous that a mammoth of a company like AT&T has that kind of power in the first place. If everyone took a stand from day one and told these companies what we'd stand for and what we wouldn't, then this wouldn't be happening now. Thing is they know people will still purchase phones and sign contracts for their service no matter what they do to their customers. Its locked bootloaders and region sim locks now, wonder what they'll dream up next. Problem is, people will sit and ***** about how companies do them but nobody ever does anything about it. If we all came together and told them to jam the phones and service in their asses they'd have to change policy or go bankrupt. But it'll never happen because people won't come together and do it. A handful of people up against a giant like AT&T will ALWAYS get swept under the rug. It takes massive numbers to make a change. When that happens...we'll get results.

I wish you luck. Unfortunately, AT&T said they don't support unlocked bootloaders according to this:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...tloaders-so-stop-asking-us-about-every-phone/
Maybe they'll have a change of heart with the Note 3. It would be nice at least.
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lol good luck... they are not going to do anything about this.. its all about customers aka money.. unless you want to give them money im sure they will if they have enough.. but still when you buy a note 3 full price from att they wont unlock the bootloader...
im getting the t-mobile note 3 and my contract from att ends next year and ill be switching back to t-mo after like 8 years with att..
im sure it will get hacked sooner or later but when a bootloader is locked you play this cat and mouse game.. just like when i use to jailbreak..
really att needs to loosen up.. hope you guys get what you asked for but for now enjoy your note 3 and wait..........

Where to get an SIM/Carrier unlock code for a AT&T Note10+

I'm trying to find a place that you guys had success getting a AT&T Note10+ carrier unlocked.
I read since this phone is quite new most unlock sources are not able to unlock them.
Thanks and Merry Christmas!

spanky310 said:
I'm trying to find a place that you guys had success getting a AT&T Note10+ carrier unlocked.
I read since this phone is quite new most unlock sources are not able to unlock them.
Thanks and Merry Christmas!
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what is the specific variant? you might check your specific variant at samkey if supported then you are lucky. I unlock mine there (s10+ japan docomo locked). goodluck

You get it from att unlock portal

kimLJT said:
what is the specific variant? you might check your specific variant at samkey if supported then you are lucky. I unlock mine there (s10+ japan docomo locked). goodluck
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Thanks for the referral, I will take a look at that place.
Have not been staying current with phone mods so I have no idea it existed or how it works
Thanks again!

Player04 said:
You get it from att unlock portal
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Really????
Thanks for nothing.

spanky310 said:
Really????
Thanks for nothing.
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Yes, if u pay off your att note. They will unlock your phone for free

The forum user ibowtoAndroid can unlock it and he is reliable, just pricey.

Player04 said:
Yes, if u pay off your att note. They will unlock your phone for free
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NO! REALLY?????
Hope this time you will catch the sarcasm and if not I give up!

StoneyJSG said:
The forum user ibowtoAndroid can unlock it and he is reliable, just pricey.
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I will reach out to him/her and see what he offers for my phone.
Thanks for the referral.
Merry Christmas

spanky310 said:
NO! REALLY?????
Hope this time you will catch the sarcasm and if not I give up!
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I didn't catch it. Lmao. Merry Christmas

duplicated post

Player04 said:
I didn't catch it. Lmao. Merry Christmas
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Merry Christmas to you and your family my friend

you can pay it off and have att unlock it like normal people do.. bypassing this means you got the device through unconventional means or you dont want to pay for the device usually which is the property of att until its paid in full which some might translate into stealing or fraud.. just saying..
why did you buy an att model if you need to use it on another carrier in the first place?
also, sometimes its not possible to simply use an "unlock code" and sometimes requires a physical connection to the device which might not b a good idea to let some random off the internet to do

elliwigy said:
you can pay it off and have att unlock it like normal people do.. bypassing this means you got the device through unconventional means or you dont want to pay for the device usually which is the property of att until its paid in full which some might translate into stealing or fraud.. just saying..
why did you buy an att model if you need to use it on another carrier in the first place?
also, sometimes its not possible to simply use an "unlock code" and sometimes requires a physical connection to the device which might not b a good idea to let some random off the internet to do
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I asked the question and you came on to start talking trashing about what I did, didn't or trying to do, you have too much bloody time on your hands????????
I have been an AT&T customer for close to 20 years and always paid for my stuff.
Not that it's any of your FREAKING BUSINESS but I can't pay off the phone because my Black Friday rebate from Costco requires me to stay on the payment plan for at least 3 months or I will lose the rebate.
I have an overseas trip coming up at the end of January and I would like to use my phone with a local prepaid SIM card, that is why I want to unlock my phone.
You need to ask questions first because start mouthing off garbage making judgement on other people, trying to steal the phone, no I have no need to do so but if that is how your logic work s then you most likely would be one doing such things.
Talking about being a 'normal people', normal people with average intelligence usually ask questions before posting stupid trash talk making assumptions about whom they know nothing about. Yes I just made an assumption about your intelligence but mine was based on your post so I'm sure it's not too far off.

spanky310 said:
I asked the question and you came on to start talking trashing about what I did, didn't or trying to do, you have too much bloody time on your hands????????
I have been an AT&T customer for close to 20 years and always paid for my stuff.
Not that it's any of your FREAKING BUSINESS but I can't pay off the phone because my Black Friday rebate from Costco requires me to stay on the payment plan for at least 3 months or I will lose the rebate.
I have an overseas trip coming up at the end of January and I would like to use my phone with a local prepaid SIM card, that is why I want to unlock my phone.
You need to ask questions first because start mouthing off garbage making judgement on other people, trying to steal the phone, no I have no need to do so but if that is how your logic work s then you most likely would be one doing such things.
Talking about being a 'normal people', normal people with average intelligence usually ask questions before posting stupid trash talk making assumptions about whom they know nothing about. Yes I just made an assumption about your intelligence but mine was based on your post so I'm sure it's not too far off.
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lol aww.. someone got upset.. cry me a river bro.. it doesnt change the fact you want to circumvent ATT policies to unlock the device which is called fraud.
I also like how you mention always paying off your devices then not paying the device almost in the same sentence.
I could honestly care less what you want it unlocked for. Karma always catches up. You should have thought of your trip when purchasing a device and plan ahead instead of trying to weasel your way around the carriers policies by committing fraud and trying to modify ATT's property (yes its still their property until its paid in full which you surely agreed to in your contract.)
I honestly didnt mean to offend you or anyone else but obviously my personality is too much for you to cope with. If you would have just asked nicely after I asked a few questions in my previous post I would have helped you. Instead you took my honest question as an insult when I was just trying to make sure nothing shady was going on as I do in most situations before helping to ensure I am not breaking any laws.
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I read may be two lines of your reply but I'm glad you took the time to post a response so others can see how stupid your logic is so yeah, I'm enjoying my nice sunny S.Cal Sunday afternoon and will not waste my time with you any more than I have so this post is hereby unsubscribed and ignored.
BTW, my son read it just now and called you a typical stupid self-righteous snowflake he ran into at his college all the time.
elliwigy said:
lol aww.. someone got upset.. cry me a river bro.. it doesnt change the fact you want to circumvent ATT policies to unlock the device which is called fraud.
I also like how you mention always paying off your devices then not paying the device almost in the same sentence.
I could honestly care less what you want it unlocked for. Karma always catches up. You should have thought of your trip when purchasing a device and plan ahead instead of trying to weasel your way around the carriers policies by committing fraud and trying to modify ATT's property (yes its still their property until its paid in full which you surely agreed to in your contract.)
I honestly didnt mean to offend you or anyone else but obviously my personality is too much for you to cope with. If you would have just asked nicely after I asked a few questions in my previous post I would have helped you. Instead you took my honest question as an insult when I was just trying to make sure nothing shady was going on as I do in most situations before helping to ensure I am not breaking any laws.
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spanky310 said:
I read may be two lines of your reply but I'm glad you took the time to post a response so others can see how stupid your logic is so yeah, I'm enjoying my nice sunny S.Cal Sunday afternoon and will not waste my time with you any more than I have so this post is hereby unsubscribed and ignored.
BTW, my son read it just now and called you a typical stupid self-righteous snowflake he ran into at his college all the time.
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wow, seems you read more than you put off! I dont even want to know what college, I hope you can figure it out lol. I guess they dont teach bypassing carrier restrictions in college lmao.
maybe you can get help wherever youre travelling to as its probably not illegal there lol.
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