So it's been complained about a few times that you cannot sync wirelessly without being plugged into ac power with a WIRE. I want real wireless sync on demand. Why? Why not. My friend with his fruit branded device can and my HD2 is better than that.
Yes I know.....
power conscious OS
you're within range of WiFi and therefore ac power
leave it overnight
Other MS branded noise
No.
I want wireless sync without having to plug in and preferably without waiting 10 mins. I just got home and I don't care if it annihilates the remainder of my battery because with WP7 OS my battery still has days of charge left anyway.
Ok, let's cut to the chase. I have been searching for a while with no luck; I cannot find anybody who has come up with a fix or a workaround to get my HD2 to sync wirelessly without being plugged into ac power. I do not know enough to make a fancy app to allow my phone to do this but am willing to bet there is some way to trick the OS into thinking it is plugged in to ac power so it will begin to wirelessly sync after 10 mins. It would be nice to skip the 10 minute wait as presumably this is just controlled by a 'plugged in' timer and 'sync enable' switch of sorts but one step at a time. Now I know this is a bit of a 'duct tape' workaround but if it works, it works. So my question is this:
Is there, that anybody knows of, a switch or registry setting to tell the phone it is on ac power, or that it can enable wireless sync (as would be switched on by the OS once plugged in for 10 mins). I think you can see where I'm going with this so any other information regarding USB trickery or fooling sensors/software etc would be welcomed.
In summary: How does the OS/HD2 know it's plugged in?
Having a really hard time getting anywhere with this, especially seeing as I cant even get my wireless sync working while plugged into ac power as it should do according to MS. Followed all MS guides/troubleshooting and nothing happens even after waiting the 10/15/30 mins, all settings double checked and reset. After reading a lot of feedback it seems like a very hit and miss feature.
As for the manual wireless sync WITHOUT being plugged into a charger I've found very little but I'm looking at all possible solutions. Here are my clues so far:
The Zune HD DOES have true wireless sync capability (not charging) with the option to manually initiate it. There could be something to learn there if I had a Zune HD
Several sources claim WP7 sends IGMP packet data to initiate the connection to the Zune software. I want to look into the possibility of replicating this data to manually initiate the sync.
I have found no obvious switches in the registry that could be of any use. The only Zune related entry that showed any activity when performing a sync (over cable) was "znetsyncstate (0)" ((1) when Zune connected via cable). This is probably just a flag to prevent other apps interfering with Zune's progress while performing sync.
I said that faking the phone being on charge would be an option but I don't have a clue how to do that. I wonder if it would be possible to create a replacement USB driver "serialusbfn.dll" which fakes the charging state which could be switched using an app similar to the USB video app. Very clunky I know.
I read on XDA a guy had created an external battery pack that could be connected to the HD2 via USB to charge the phone at either 500mA or 900mA to replicate both PC USB and AC Power adapter charge respectively. He discovered you could replicate the charging state by splicing certain wires in an old USB lead plugged into the phone. Obviously this would be a horrible hardware hack and not a feasible solution but interesting, nonetheless.
Interesting stuff here about Zune network detection and awareness which could be useful if creating an app to initiate the sync but no methods regarding the sync process that I can see.
My next step is to monitor network packets while the wireless sync takes place so I can see what WP7 and Zune are doing if I can get wireless sync to work at all
Anybody know anything about modifying USB drivers/DLLs that could help?
Also anybody know of issues with Zune wireless sync on WP7.8/HD2? Be nice to hear somebody has it working and I'm not wasting my time! ROM I'm using in my sig
Please help!
I've hit a brick wall. I cannot for the life of me get wireless sync to work even plugged into AC charger. Without this working I can't go any further.
Has anybody using Dynamics HD2O 2.00b WP7.8 8858 ROM used wireless sync successfully?
How about anybody on WP7 on the HD2?
There was tweak app and it could able charge mode. it was made for joke (wireless charge) I think... But I can't remember name of app;;
Maybe found in bazaar or wphack??
Ah, I USED prs rom (its cooked rom based on pdaimatejam rom and im using pdaimatejam 8.7 ) and worked well. Exactly after 10 minute my hd started wireless sync but i can't remember that Zune software were running on my computer....
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There was tweak app and it could able charge mode. it was made for joke (wireless charge) I think... But I can't remember name of app;;
Maybe found in bazaar or wphack??
Ah, I USED prs rom (its cooked rom based on pdaimatejam rom and im using pdaimatejam 8.7 ) and worked well. Exactly after 10 minute my hd started wireless sync but i can't remember that Zune software were running on my computer....
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Thanks for the info, it's helpful to know that it is at least possible. I have still had no luck getting it to wireless sync with Dynamics HD2O 2.00b WP7.8 8858 ROM and I'm not getting much feedback regarding the wireless sync on that ROM thread. I'm loving the ROM too much to change just yet, so I may have to accept wireless sync doesn't like this ROM and put this project on the back burner until I switch ROMs.
I'll do some hunting and see what I can find on that tweak app you mentioned. If I can find it, it will be a great start!
Cheers
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Hi, this is my first post to these forums, although I did spend a couple of hours browsing after finding them last night.
Having played with my wife's month old Mio168/TomTom5 and loved it, I decided that when my CPW/o2 contract was up I'd go for a pda/phone rather than the SE K750i I had previously been planning on.
I did just a little research and went for the XDAIIi over the MDAIII (don't like T-Mobile's pricing!) and XDAIIs (no wi-fi, slower and unnecessary keyboard).
I initially thought I had a great unit but things haven't been as smooth as I expected.
http://www.globalpositioningsystems.co.uk supplied me with a Holux combined GPS receiver/cradle, Kingston 512MB SD card and screen protector at very reasonable prices and with swift delivery.
First thing I noticed was that whenever the phone utility was brought on-screen, it showed me that my last caller was the very first person I had phoned on it. After any call, the same info would pop back to the display, too.
Another little thing that surprised me was the SIM code entry. I have set an 8 digit code. When I enter the first number it appears on the display as an asterisk but when I hit the second, the first two numbers appear (the asterisk changes to the digit). Is this normal or a quirk of having '08' as the first two digits of my code?
TomTom5 installed fine but kept randomly freezing (whenever a call or txt msg came in it was certain to happen) so I contacted o2 Customer Support who told me to take it back to be checked out.
Three days after installing the card (and before I had taken the unit for its o2 'inspection') the SD card suddenly 'disappeared'. Actually, it's shot; it isn't recognised by my XDAIIi, my work supervisor's XDAIIi, my wife's Mio168 or my computer's USB card reader. I researched this a little and found it a fairly common occurence but the only recommendation seems to be to format it. HELLO? How does one format something that no equipment recognises? Fools!
Actually, while googling the SD card problem I found people recommending the removal of o2 Active to cure TomTom lockups. o2 Tech-Supp were very helpful with this - instructing me how to hard reset and install 'corporate' using the 0506 password. This appears to have cured almost all TomTom problems although I need more than the old 128MB MM card I currently have for storage!
This also fixed the 'last call' bug I'd been experiencing.
Having found this marvellous forum, I set about finding info for the XDAIIi and promptly discovered that the wikki bears little specifically for it. I would update it but don't know enough yet!
I did read a post last night that pointed out to a user that the cradle charges the battery from just the USB port, and not requiring the AC supply so I decided to check it out. Sure enough, the battery is shown as 'charging' but after leaving it overnight, I find that the charge has actually dropped to 87% (still says 'charging', too) from the 95% I left it on.
Perhaps I have a faulty cradle.
It also seems a little odd to me that I can use mp3s for ringtones but can only use wav files for the alarm!
Is there a way to stop the wi-fi 'do you want to connect' popup appearing when TomTom is running other than disabling wi-fi before running it? It's a right pain having TT freeze until I get rid ot the popup.
One other little thing - anyone know how I can ensure that GPRS isn't going to be used for web surfing? I don't want it to be activated accidentally and certainly don't want to go surfing on it for an hour thinking I'm using wi-fi!
Don't get me wrong - overall I'm still happy with the XDAIIi (look -> ) but there's just a few doubts as to whether I went the right way creeping in.
Hi there, im pretty much a "new" user of the XDA 2i aswell but have learnt alot from using this forum.
I have almost the same setup as you now as far as the "corporate" install, TomTom5 etc etc .... but i have updated the ROM on mine to the latest Imate version, which you can find in one of these forums , its called PDA 2K ROM streight from I-MATE or something along them lines.
I would recommend that you update also as it fixed a few problems was having with lockups, but make sure to do alot of research before you attempt it cos you dont want to knacker it up
Anyway .... my cradle charges fine just using the USB (no AC adapter)
Passord thing .... this has came up before , it for some reason displays the digits when the numbers 08 are first , i seem to remember it being something to do with emergancy calling features, although i didnt think that they started with "08" but there ya go
GPRS ... will only activate when you cannot get a Wireless signal, the hirachy is WiFi then GPRS, but to be on the safe side i removed all the setting configurations for the GPRS so it can never connect, i never use it anyway.
Im not sure about the "Do you want to connect" popup you get when running TomTom as it doesnt happen to me , perhaps you have wireless enabled all the time, id tun it off to save your batteries anyway.
well .... i think ive covered a few of the things your asking as good as i can, best of luck with it
Thanks for the reply, Danny.
I haven't had any TomTom problems since 'going corporate' so I'll wait and see how it goes before trying another ROM - taking warranty into consideration too.
Mind you, I haven't received any calls or texts while running TT either so all may not be as it seems.
Hmm. I'm plugged into a 4-port USB hub that came with an external power supply I don't use, so I wonder if that makes a difference. I'll have to pull out the base unit and plug the cradle in there to check charging on that.
I've double checked that I have no settings for GPRS so unless o2 'push' them to me I should be OK.
Yes, I do have wi-fi on all the time and the battery still lasts all the work day with a little usage when time permits. My cradle/GPS receiver charges the pda when it's in there on the way to/from work, so I don't really have to worry about that.
I'd just like to not be bothered by the connection dialogue box rather than have to turn off wi-fi for navigation purposes... have you seen how many networks are open out there? Not just the city centre ones, there are loads of not-very-secure company and household networks that can be connected to and utilised. Free broadband internet - almost makes you want to get a laptop!
the computer to which the cradle is connected via USB must be turned ON, or else there will be no current passing through the cable. Thus, no charging the PDA. The Ipods have the same "handycap". You can always use the AC power adapter...
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the computer to which the cradle is connected via USB must be turned ON, or else there will be no current passing through the cable. Thus, no charging the PDA. The Ipods have the same "handycap". You can always use the AC power adapter...
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Quite true, but my charging test was performed while the computer was on and defragmenting my 5 partitions.
Actually, my Soltek motherboard has 'hot' USB ports at the rear that still supply a little 'juice' when the power is off - my USB hub, BT dongle and Intellimouse 4 stay alight when the main machine is off, although I've not bothered to check exactly how much voltage is supplied.
I have a tmobile MDA Vartio2 and I have numerous problems with it and need to upgrade soon but this one I cant sort.
I can't connect via usb to sync with my laptop. If I set up a new connection it will sync but as soon as I reattach to sync it wont recognise the device so I can't keep everything up to date. it isn't the cables - power is fine and they work for other things.
I am runing it as I bought it 17 months ago - no upgrades or cooked roms or changes of any kind.
Can anyone help.
I want to upgrade to something else but I always sell my old ones so I want to sort the issue first obviously even if I sell it.
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I can't connect via usb to sync with my laptop. If I set up a new connection it will sync but as soon as I reattach to sync it wont recognise the device so I can't keep everything up to date. it isn't the cables - power is fine and they work for other things.
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Try turning off the 'advanced network functionality':
Start -> Settings -> Connections tab -> USB to PC
That's what I had to do to get that hack called activestin...^WActiveSync to work reliably via USB.
Really, I've not noticed any difference between having it on and off as far as functionality goes, so really, I have no idea what the RNDIS mode stuff is even good for.
I have just tried your suggestion but now it isn't recognising the device at all. It is seeing it as far as power goes - its charging over USB but activesync isn't seeing it.
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I have just tried your suggestion but now it isn't recognising the device at all. It is seeing it as far as power goes - its charging over USB but activesync isn't seeing it.
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Check activesync itself:
File -> Connection Settings
Make sure "Allow USB connections" is checked.
If that still doesn't work, I'd try the uninstall, reboot, reinstall activesync dance and see if that helps any, provided that you are using activesync under XP.
I'd also be suspecting the sync cable. Recharging a device and getting a data connection are two different things. I have a blue angel that wouls charge via the USB sync cable, but would not sync, XP kept complaining about an unknown device. Turned out it was a broken wire in the cable.
Done all of these already I'm afraid - I have 4 or 5 cables and none of them work for this - and I know they are all absolutely fine.
OK, let's take stock of things. I'm assuming that you are using XP.
Hermes with the advanced network functionality turned off doesn't show up at all when you plug it into USB. So, we have a lower level driver issue going on.
Provided that you have not turned off all sounds in your current sound scheme, does the computer make any noises when you plug the phone in? If the data side of the connector on the phone is in order, the computer will make some kind of beep noise when you plug in a USB device.
Also, have you looked at device manager when the phone is plugged in? With advanced network functions turned on, a network adapter should appear. With out the network bits, it should show up as an HTC USB Sync device.
To eliminate something on the phone software-side (I know, you said that you have not touched anything, but try it anyway, this is windows, the environment that gave rise to the term bit-rot), put the phone into boot loader and plug it in to see if the computer sees it. It should appear as a HTC USB Sync.
If it still doesn't show up, I'd be popping over to another computer and checking to see if the phone will be recognized by that system.
For the past few weeks when I plug in I get references to acquiring network addresses (like a wifi network) but then it does nothing. Now I get nothing at all when I connect apart form power.
I have already tried re-installing active sync (just done it again in case I did something wring too)
I refuse to beleive its my cables at this point because I have 3 in front of me that all worked perfectly before everthing suddenly went wrong. Unless someone had cut all of them at the same time - this couldn't have happenned.
I am going to try and plug into the pc and see what happens (as apposed to the laptop which should have the connection.
I think this is good news (on the part of my laptop) because its the same story on the pc.
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I think this is good news (on the part of my laptop) because its the same story on the pc.
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Double edged sword there...
So we have potentially eliminated the computers (good), this leaves the phone itself (non-good).
Hard reset?
Otherwise, I'd start to suspect the USB connection on the phone itself.
I would say that my chances of rescuing this phone rather than getting a new one are getting slimmer
I think it is probably the port itself and I can't do anything about that one
Anyone want to buy one with non usb syncing functionality ?
I currently have three devices (Diamond, Kaiser, Wizard) I all want to sync with my PC (XP, through ActiveSync). I have searched around a bit, but was unable to find a solution for it. I also have them all hooked up through USB to my PC whenever I'm near it (they all have their own cable, charging etc).
After a lot of mucking about, I figured out how to have them all connected to the PC at the same time (without those pesky conflicts) and how to easily switch ActiveSync between them (it still wont sync them all at the same time). Currently I do this all manually but I know how to automate it.
The question is, is there any interest for an application like this? (Or if it already exists, please direct me to it, as I couldn't find it) I'm probably not going to spend the time to do this just for myself, but if there's a bunch of people who want this, I might find some hours here and there to make it into an app. No guarantees as to when, though
So err, post if you want, or not, or...
i'm very very interested by an application like the one you described
thanks to you
i am interested in how to switch easily manually..^^
do have some problems with that from time to time..(two wizards)
(for sure i would be interested in this app too)
in windows vista it supports sync to multiple devices at once. for the files part that is. i didnt check the contacts&outlook sync.
windows mobile device center ( the first edition ver. 6.0) should work on xp. the later versions only work on vista.
Not looking for multiple contact, email sync so don't worry there.
I have an Alpine that lives in an attached cradle and is used to check email accounts via activesync, the SIM has no data plan so it has to be this way, so all i would want from this is a way to turn off ActiveSync when i attach my Trinity, which is fully sync'd with Outlook.
I also have a Himalaya which is used as a test bed and so it would be nice if i could switch to it for file transfer without taking the Alpine from it's cradle.
I for sure am interested in an automated solution to this. I am tired of having my regular phone sitting in its cradle and then plugging in a test device and having it not connect because AS is already synced and online with the cradled device.
im also intrested, got a wizard and a kaiser too
Well, been a long time but finally decided to do something with it. Currently in beta:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=557719
I was wondering if this is possible. I've heard of people using ICS Control to turn it into a hotspot, but I no longer have a working WiFi card. I just got a new computer with Windows 7 and all I can do is use the built-in Internet Connection Sharing that comes with WinMo until I get a long ethernet cable to wire from my router to my room.
So I was wondering if it's possible to use the phone's ability to receive WiFi to share that connection with the computer. I'm sure there's some way for it to be done. Any suggestions?
I have the same question
same situation here.
After some searching, I've found a program called "Serialtunnel" and "wmtunnel" that is supposed to do just that, however I cannot find any working download link...
Let me know if you find anything.
http://www.wmwifirouter.com/
Will work as wifi to usb, making your phone a WIFI usb adapter. I use it with my desktop when hooked to my TV in the livingroom, rather than a 35 foot cord.
Its as simple as= plug in phone, start Wmwifirouter , touch wifi to usb button.
Battery charges while working so it doesn't kill it.
phone's ability to receive WiFi to share that connection with the computer can only be obtained if your phone allows to do so. check out the official site of your phone developrs. there will definitly be some considerations about this
Two solutions
Found two programs that do just this, both work on Windows Mobile (and unfortunately not on Symbian), but are supposed to do just what you're looking for.
ICS Control
Serial Tunnel
IF anyone figures out how to get this (converted) to run on a Symbian device... Thanks.
Anyone?
Bumping to re-ask question.
WIFI
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I'm looking for a program that can "Wifi to USB" on a symbian (Nokia) phone.
In other words, I want to use my phone as a wireless adapter for an old pc without wifi.
would prob get more luck asking in a symbian forum
Dear HD2 Gods of XDA,
Hello! For the tl;dr version just check out the bold.
I have two questions/goals in this post. I teach high school science and I was looking for a way to avoid spending >$500 on a document camera for my classroom. I'm on T-Mobile USA and I currently have Android NAND on my HD2.
I'm looking for a way to turn my cell phone's camera into a document camera. Essentially I want to take the real time image (sound is not needed) and feed it to my projector in my classroom. I don't need to actually save the video footage, just have it appear of the screen. Do you know of any apps for Android that can accomplish this? I saw some for WM - but I finally removed WM from my phone...will I have to go back? Thoughts? Options? Opinions?
Secondly, I want to reverse tether option for my phone. My classroom is buried and I often get no signal all day at work. Right now I turn on airplane mode to conserve battery and just disconnect from the world until 3pm. I'd like to be able to atleast plug my phone into a USB port and get some data on the phone. As a teacher I can't really be on FB at work, but still being connected on my HD2 would be nice. Maybe then I'd actually buy a dock for the thing. I saw some older posts about setting up an adhoc network with android but I'm fairly inexperienced - if there's a setting or app now that can do this I think that would be easier. Again, I am sure this is possible, but I just want your opinions about how to BEST accomplish this.
Now...the complicating factors...the mismatching hardware across the board.
My HD2 Running Android
My Laptop: M11xR2 (only has DP, HDMI and USB ports) running Windows 7
Dell Projector: S-Video and VGA ports currently connected to...
Dell POS School Tower: Has the VGA connected to the projector. Runs Win XP and I'd need my tech guys to do any software installations on due to administrator lockdown on the computers at work.
What other details would be helpful? What do you think the best approach is? I'm open to flashing the phone back if it's needed.