[Q] Is Defy easy to take apart and fix? - Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
Just looking for some advice. My Defy, which has been dropped many of times and never broken, dropped out my pocket from a ladder last night. It landed on the top where the power button is and the screen shattered and also the LCD has broken and is just lighting up.
Now, had a sniff around this forum and found a website in the US that say they can send me a new digitizer, adhesive and lcd for just under £40.
My question is, is the Defy an easy phone to take apart and more importantly, is it easy to re-assemble? Just looking for some advice before I waste £40. I had a quote of a couple of repair shops and cheapest I got quoted was £70, in that case I would just buy a used one on ebay for about the same.
Any advice welcome and much appreciated.
Baldy

Ive tuk mine apart to replace ear piece and it tuk no mor than 10mins to disasemble and reasemble and it was easy as hell im going to buy a full new housing for my defy to makebit look new agen hehe
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Baldy2012 said:
Hi all,
Just looking for some advice. My Defy, which has been dropped many of times and never broken, dropped out my pocket from a ladder last night. It landed on the top where the power button is and the screen shattered and also the LCD has broken and is just lighting up.
Now, had a sniff around this forum and found a website in the US that say they can send me a new digitizer, adhesive and lcd for just under £40.
My question is, is the Defy an easy phone to take apart and more importantly, is it easy to re-assemble? Just looking for some advice before I waste £40. I had a quote of a couple of repair shops and cheapest I got quoted was £70, in that case I would just buy a used one on ebay for about the same.
Any advice welcome and much appreciated.
Baldy
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Very Simple.. but careful
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Motorola+Defy+Teardown/7260/1
Part 1 + 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uSH1UuEOvI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=UG&hl=en-GB&v=5eiFQ39Ypmc

Easy to take apart and reassemble.
But if it's been dropped before there's a good chance that one or more of the screw holes will break off in the process - these are very weak and flimsy.
Also, you may lose your waterproofness on reassembly unless you are very careful.
Also take care of dust getting between the glass and the screen on reassembly.

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Broken Screen

Hi all,
I have a HD2 and some numpty decided running a shopping trolley into my leg would be fun... the result, I have a broken screen.
The actual damage appears to only be superficial, I can still use the touch screen and the phone is in full working order but the glass has cracked.
I've been looking online and all I can find is a replacement digitizer... I am wondering if anyone know that this is what I need or not?
Regards
Ben
If the touchscreen still works then you don't need to replace the digitizer. You only need the glass part, but separating the digitizer from the glass and replacing it is a very difficult process and you would probably be better off getting a whole new screen assembly instead.
if the touch screen still works then in theory you just need a new piece of glass, not a digitizer (which is a thin plastic sheet).
problem is whether or not you can get the old digitizer off thee broken glass without damaging it.
mZimm said:
If the touchscreen still works then you don't need to replace the digitizer. You only need the glass part, but separating the digitizer from the glass and replacing it is a very difficult process and you would probably be better off getting a whole new screen assembly instead.
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Do you know of anywhere that sells the full set up?
B
Anyone know anything about this? I really need to get it fixed quickly
Found something on Mobilefun (check google cant paste links)
Would that be suitable?
Its the glass display and digitizer?
If you want to try to do it yourself these official HTC repair videos may help.
Disassemble - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL-jnUKufC4&feature=player_embedded
Reassemble - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8Q7mXdcJ54&feature=channel
I suppose I could do it myself but I'm really looking at prices of parts before I take it to some phone shop, I would have my insurance cover it but my bank are being arses about it...
That way if they say its 150.00 then I can say ahhhh na....
ba0987 said:
I would have my insurance cover it but my bank are being arses about it...
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You have a premium debit account that insures your phone?
yeh, however they claim I never registered it even though I have provided them proof of my telephone call...
Not impressed but I would rather put that behind me closing the account with them and moving banks
and how far into the process do you have to go before you take off the glass section of the phone I can see it seperate at the end but I didnt see whem it was taken off
ta B
this is not really related to repairing your own broekn hd2, but it's for sure youtube gave it to me as a related video to the HD2 reassemble:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db7pKjUrNXQ
I loved it, every bit of it.
I have a Natwest Premium account and I wouldn't trust them with my phone insurance as far as I could throw them. The £10 I spend a month on my O2 insurance is worth it, i've claimed 2-3 times in the last 4 years, and they have bought the new one to my door and taken the pieces of my old ones away, job's a goodun!
And as for your question I haven't a clue if I am honest, I have never disassembled a HD2 before. Thank God.

Dropped my precious HD2 ... doh!

Hey guys,
Just got out the car, fell over the cat and my HD2 has slipped from my top pocket and slammed screen down into the concrete driveway, doh! The screen is obliterated with cracks ... however
1. The picture is 100% clear/fine
2. The touchscreen works 100%
Can I just replace the top glass cover/screen, or is it an all in one combined unit? Im confident with electronics, just wish to know the answer before part hunting and stripping the device.
Cheers
Mike
Vapourmike said:
Hey guys,
Just got out the car, fell over the cat and my HD2 has slipped from my top pocket and slammed screen down into the concrete driveway, doh! The screen is obliterated with cracks ... however
1. The picture is 100% clear/fine
2. The touchscreen works 100%
Can I just replace the top glass cover/screen, or is it an all in one combined unit? Im confident with electronics, just wish to know the answer before part hunting and stripping the device.
Cheers
Mike
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I would call HTC. They are good on their prices when it comes to fixing stuff that is out of warranty. A guy I knew got his Nexus One screen replaced for $90.
ap3604 said:
I would call HTC. They are good on their prices when it comes to fixing stuff that is out of warranty. A guy I knew got his Nexus One screen replaced for $90.
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Problem is, I cannot afford to be without my phone, the phone is still usable its just difficult to read through the cracks, the image and touchscreen still work perfect, it's as if another layer of glass sits overtop.
Im 100% confident in stripping electronics etc, was just after a quick answer as to whether anyone knew if this was likely to be an entire screen or just a digitizer, if no one knows I will just strip it down tomorrow when I can get to my T drivers.
check out this vid on dissembling the hd2 - you might find your answer there..hope it helps
http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/03/02...g-the-htc-hd2/
look on craigslist. a lot of shady places replace your broken screens for cheap
Moschino02 said:
check out this vid on dissembling the hd2 - you might find your answer there..hope it helps
http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/03/02...g-the-htc-hd2/
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http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/03/02/official-htc-step-by-step-video-for-disassembling-the-htc-hd2/
mrroey said:
look on craigslist. a lot of shady places replace your broken screens for cheap
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I'm happy to repair myself as I see no reason to pay someone money when I work with electronics daily and I can locate parts easily, just need to know if its the digitizer or the LCD that's broken without pulling the device apart.
Also, thank you for the link above, will give that a look now, I really think it's just the top digitizer as the screen still shows a crystal clear image, the backlight works fine and the touchscreen works too, its just badly cracked.
This happened to me (apart from the cat), however it seems you got lucky, the LED screen decided to break, has all funny white lines over it but the glass is perfect.
^^ As far as going to fix it your self is concerned, I would have tried myself, however I just know with my luck that something would go wrong and it wouldnt work D:
I usually go via the DIY route but I've seen too many stories where HD2 repairs have gone horribly wrong. It seems that replacing one part is fairly straightforward but avoiding damage to others is not. I'm sure that as miniaturization continues repairs, even by talented amateurs, will become impossible.
It's your digitizer. It's available online. Just make sure you get the right one for your country. TMO-US uses a different one than everywhere else, I believe. Also, watch the video linked above. The digitizer removal I hear is somewhat tricky. Good luck!
Hi there and hello from Croatia!well,i must say changing digitizer on hd2 aint easy.lcd is glued with some special glue type and after you glue them up u need to glue digitizer for housing,for that im using ebay double sided iphone 3m tape but it is not strong enough.as for the hardware inside u ned to be 100% concentrated on this cuz flat for keypad is 30$...digitizer around 50$...chinese resellers with good quality.good luck!

[Q] I cracked my digitizer....hard to replace?

So I was pretty careless and dropped my N1 in work, landing perfectly on it's screen It still functions perfectly and the AMOLED screen hasn't been damaged, simply the digitizer. I've already ordered a new one with all the tools necessary to replace it, but I'm yet to find any definitive guide on replacing the N1 digitizer.
I came across thread #751923 (Can't post links as I'm new) which seems really helpful but a guide with pictures/video would be awesome. There's a 45 step youtube vid on how to replace it as well but the quality/clarity isn't great. I'm sure I can use both of these to replace it just fine, It just seems a little daunting.
Basically I'm looking for consolation along the lines of 'It's damn easy to fix' Any love for a fellow N1-er?
It is easy to fix. Two tips: don't use metal spatulas to pry the plastic under the battery off and gently wiggle and push the motherboard out only after disconnecting all the little connectors on it.
Im also waiting on my digitizer. I'm going to folllow these 2 guides.
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus-One-Teardown/1654/1
http://cnn.cn/shop/google-nexus-digitizer-p-8252.html
Have done it and you actually found better tear-downs and tutorials. Use youtube as well. The videos help because they show the techniques as well. Hardest part i would have to say is sliding the motherboard out the bottom under the metal separator. I think it was great and taught me a lot about my phone. The thing you have to watch out for is dust and fingerprints under the screen. Once it's on...it's on, anything underneath is stuck lol. make sure it's all clean and you won't have any annoyances like dust particles like i have.
I did it, mostly successful. I damaged the cable to the trackball, so be careful at that step, otherwise nothing difficult, just takes an hour or so.
Cheers for the info and advice guys, should hopefully get my replacement digitizer tomorrow so I'll keep this thread updated with the outcome
I have replaced my digitizer. It cost me $45.00. It was challenging but not impossible. The hardest thing is not tearing any of the ribbons when dissasembling. It was a successful replacement. The only gripe I had was the digitizer I bought did not come with the adhesive to glue the digitizer to the frame. Make sure you have a way to attach the screen to the frame before you begin the process. Other than that it should be easy as long as you take your time.
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I replaced mine.. it took a solid hour or so, just be very careful not to tear any of the ribbon cables.. everything is super small and delicate.
I now get lots of dust in the corners of my screen because i didn't seal the new digitizer properly, but its not a huge deal to me.
replacing the digitizer is easy... its taking apart, and putting the rest back together that sucks. just make sure you know what length screw goes in what hole... very important. take notes as you disassemble.
nexusonemeover said:
just make sure you know what length screw goes in what hole... very important. take notes as you disassemble.
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haha reminds me of when I took my laptop apart to re apply thermalpaste. I ended up with 7 extra screws >.< But the thing was together and has been running fine for the last 6 months so O.O
I did it, not too bad if you go slow and deliberately. I also have dust under my screen now. I sort of wish I would have just sent it to HTC but the money saved is worth a little dust.
A useful tip for disassembling is to cut out a paper template the same shape as your N1 and push the screws through it in positions corresponding to the screw holes in your N1. Its much easier to figure out where they all go when you come to reassembling it, just dont knock your template and screws on the floor .
rob61280 said:
A useful tip for disassembling is to cut out a paper template the same shape as your N1 and push the screws through it in positions corresponding to the screw holes in your N1. Its much easier to figure out where they all go when you come to reassembling it, just dont knock your template and screws on the floor .
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That's a great idea, rob. I always think whenever I take apart a phone that I should have a video camera handy to record what I'm doing so I can play it in reverse when I'm putting it back together
For $115 you can send your phone back to HTC and have a QUALIFIED technician replace your screen.
Yes, it's a little more but you don't have to worry about messing anything else up and you're getting back your phone without any installation flaws.
Well I eventually got my digitizer this morning. It took until I had everything taken apart to realise they had sent me a compatible but ill fitting digitizer. It doesn't even have the appropriate buttons (it did in the selling image) at the bottom. At this point everything works fine but it doesn't look perfect. I guess it'll have to do, thanks for the advice guys
omgdwong said:
For $115 you can send your phone back to HTC and have a QUALIFIED technician replace your screen.
Yes, it's a little more but you don't have to worry about messing anything else up and you're getting back your phone without any installation flaws.
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Wow thats cheap, I just got quoted for around $300US to fix my phones screen.. not including labor.. argh
Does anyone know if HTC in america repair phones from the other side of the world even though they were purchased from google's store?
I just sent my phone into HTC to be repaired for a cracked screen expecting it to be $115 and was pleasantly surprised to find that it would only be $55 including shipping! HTC was also extremely quick to get back with me for the quote. I sent the phone out Tuesday at 4pm and they have looked at it and quoted me the repair cost by Wednesday at 2 pm.
I recently cracked my digitalizer as well.
I called HTC 2 times without giving any information about myself before calling a 3rd time to do the actual swap.
I was quoted at $115 for me to send in my N1, wait a week without a phone, and have them replace the digitalizer, before shipping it back.
I then further inquired and found out they have a Swap program where they mail you a new(refurbished, but perfect) phone, and a FedEx label, which they still quoted me $115 to fix the screen, and a possible $275 if they needed to replace the logicboard, but they would get a quote back to me with all the things they would need to replace. It would require a $529 charge to my card, incase i didnt send the phone back at all.
I mentioned that my camera was broken, as well as my trackball was loose, and he said the quote would include this as well.
I called back a 3rd time, requested a swap phone, and had one 2 days later.
i mailed my phone into HTC, and two days later i had my quote.
I paid $55 after it was said and done, and have a new (refurbished) phone
I was rooted,unlocked, and running Kang-O-Rama 1.0 when i shipped the phone in. I didnt bother to fix that.

Changing Nexus One Hosing

Ok so my Nexus One got a few Dings and scratches nothing critical or crazy. but I'm really picky about my phones looking New so I invested on buying a N1 housing on ebay and I wanted to know any pointers from people that done this before. I do have some experience on changing housings but where I'm hesitant about taking apart the digitizer since its glued I believe to the middle part and people are just putting double sided tape to hold the thing together which in my opinion it doesn't last. So maybe you guys got better pointer than people I see on youtube and other blogs. Thanks
How would you source a new housing without spending at least $200, if you don't mind me asking?
I got my housing on ebay for 45.00 for battery door bottom part and the middle housing. Now if i brake anything inside it will cost me alot more than 200.00.
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If you are just replacing the housing you do not have to do anything about the digitizer/lcd. You just pull it out of the old and put it in the new. I did this recently with my N1 and am very happy with my shiney new looking phone. There are plenty of videos on youtube to step you through the process just be patient and careful. The hardest part for me was the connectors for the docks in the bottom back plate.
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paperecho said:
If you are just replacing the housing you do not have to do anything about the digitizer/lcd. You just pull it out of the old and put it in the new. I did this recently with my N1 and am very happy with my shiney new looking phone. There are plenty of videos on youtube to step you through the process just be patient and careful. The hardest part for me was the connectors for the docks in the bottom back plate.
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You made my day! I was having a hard time finding a video to confirm that. most people replace the broken digitizer or they just disassemble the phone without taking the digitizer off. Now I'm just waiting for my housing to arrive from China.
the bottom cover part(not the battery door) was a little easier to take off than i expected but it was tough though. I used a pry tool like this http://www.accessorygeeks.com/pry-tool-plastic-case-bu.html
Highly suggest picking one up.
For the bottom piece across the top part there are three little tabs that you pop up then in think two little ones you have to work downward on the sides then it will slide off.
replacing the aluminum unibody part does require a full disassembly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=1054682
Check out the site linked in my post there. Any use to anybody?
DirkGently1 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=1054682
Check out the site linked in my post there. Any use to anybody?
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http://cnn.cn/shop/google-c-976.html this is where I bought few things before but not for my Nexus One
Thanks for all your help guys !! I got my housing today and replaced it is hard but not as hard as I thought your tips helped alot
I did it 2 days ago, pretty easy, do take care of the power button though

[Q] Scratch removal

Hi,
after my wife dropped my phone (accidently she swears) I have some small scratches on the phone. (See Picture below)
Someone knows some ACME Cleaner&Scratch remover for that?
Greetings .. seems that I have had the HD2 for the longest time ...
OOO!! Ouch! Looks like it's time to see the phone doctor. Or, if you feel brave enough, you can fix it yourself. They have replacement screens on ebay. Since you have the EU model the contacts for the screen and the digitizer are soldered together. So you have 3 options. 1. Take it to someone else to fix it. 2. Attempt to order just the digitizer and if you have some time and surgical skills solder the contacts yourself or, 3. Get a fully assembled LCD and digitizer that is already soldered together and swap them out. The cheapest would be to just get the digitizer but if you have to factor in the time and headache of soldering those tiny contacts together, I think getting the assembled parts would be my choice. The US T-Mobile model has a small plug-in type connector on it so there is not soldering. I replaced mine and it is quite a chore. You have to be very careful and don't rush it or you will break things. Good luck!
Yeah you've got more than scratches there! You've got a smashed screen
You'll have to replace the glass
the guy above stated pretty much everything you need to know but here's a link to a lcd+digitizer combo that is fairly cheap: http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-LCD-Dis...192999?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item45fdf14d27
I know guys, the scratches where just kidding
The complete replacement has been ordered already, will fix it by myself
RollerCoasting said:
Yeah you've got more than scratches there! You've got a smashed screen
You'll have to replace the glass
the guy above stated pretty much everything you need to know but here's a link to a lcd+digitizer combo that is fairly cheap: http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-LCD-Dis...192999?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item45fdf14d27
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He was being sarcastic with the 'scratches' thing :L
MasterMerlin said:
I know guys, the scratches where just kidding
The complete replacement has been ordered already, will fix it by myself
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That's great. Like I said be very careful in taking it apart. Especially the flex cable that controls the volume rocker. Take your time and you can get it fixed.
Check out this website: http://pocketnow.com/hardware-1/official-htc-hd2-disassembly-assembly-training-videos-leaked
It has some videos on disassembling and assembling the HD2 just so you see what you have to deal with. Also another good investment would be to see if you can get some double sided tape to stick the back of the LCD to main frame if you can't salvage the stuff that's there already. It can't be too thick though because you'll run into problems of getting it put back together. They have that on ebay also.
yes
option one.... change screen..
option 2...change wife.....
hahaha change your wife my friend
htchd2fix said:
yes
option one.... change screen..
option 2...change wife.....
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haha change screen is cheaper i guess

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