Hello Everyone
afew months ago I was using the leaked Jellybean for my SGS2 and came across a bug that is pretty serious to be honest
when you listen to music via music player with headphones
and use the facebook messenger incoming notification can cause the music to stop or play via external speakers this may not be serious to be most of you as this does not occur to whatsapp etc but it seems to cause the music to stop when SMS/MMS/Notifications comes in and after awhile it can irritate you if you are chit-chatting with a friend
I come from Cyanogenmod 10.1 and no way Im saying that stock is retarded etc this bug was only fix for 10.1 due to Entropy512 And Replicant work on a opensource hal which did the job but is not completed yet...
we all know that stock is smoother and uses less battery etc but this topic is always debate
people would in the android development would understand that samsung has modified the framework of android so it works as it does in that case they have also refuse to help us in open source development..
I actually very sad on how it has been for my device so far there is nothing much left to say all I can say is that I wont be looking for samsung to my next android phone after my contacts end..:crying:
that's not good
How is stock using less battery than cm if it so bloated?!
like I said this method is debatable so lets not go there...
I had the same problem in CM 10. Dont know what causes it. Sammy just released a stock update...but only 4.04
GalaxyGusta said:
How is stock using less battery than cm if it so bloated?!
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You can disable/delete bloatware. Cody himself posted that in CM, radio uses almost 2x battery, it's coz of closed source stuff. I'm a die hard CM fan still I've to use this $h!tty Samsung JB.
Edit : By radio I mean Cellular not FM
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First of all, this thread is intended to compare people`s opinions only, pls keep the critic levels down please as people work very hard to make us have this freedom of changing roms in our devices
I`ve fot my GN few weeks ago and in this time I could test some different Roms, including tw based ones, some of them are good and stable, but there was always some detail I didn’t like (even some icon, im very picky for this), im a fan of simply and functional though, so in my opinion the winner till now according to my experience is cm9 nightly, below im explaining why:
1- The whole system has 163 megas agains almost 1 g from many others
2- The appearance is awesome, extremely similar to Nexus UI
3- It runs smoothly, fast and is pretty customizable
4- All my apps from the past TW roms works, i`ve just went to my google play account, checked my apps, swiped to the left, saw all my previous apps and installed them again without any FC till now (4 days already running cm9, installing new apps everyday and nothing)
5- Google maps and navigation working fine for me (even my external gps sygic working)
6- The music equalizer is awesome and functional.
7- No need to root, u can change any settings on the phone easily (don t recommend it if you are beginner though)
8- The Motorola atrix tv out effect when locking the screen is really cute, also the lockscreen is more functional than the TW one.
9- The battery life is really comparable to the GB, I went home yesterday with 79%, played till 12 am with the phone and came back to work today still reading my news on it with 8% juice. It started to charge today around 9 am on the usb and in 3 hours it has 55 % (phone on and wifi syncronizyng everything)
10- Camera works really fine
Cons:
1 fm radio doesn’t work ,so what? With 5 bucks u buy an mp3 player with fm radio and saves the battery from your phone, smartphones are not still made to listen to music on them.
2 loud speaker bit broken, so what? My phone conversations are private anyway, the normal mic works fine and I don’t have a car, if yes, I would go for a Bluetooth car device. However, it works on skype calls, im a foreigner living in Europe and my family is in brazil, do u think I would call them out of skype? So, perfect for me.
3 no touchwiz, thank god? S pen doestn work, but u can write notes if u want in any other note app, I personally always write my notes using the speaker writer or the keyboard as my calligraphy is horrible and I don’t draw, so what?
Not ota updates…hmmm, fine though
what about you?
short answer: CM9 because.. it's CM9
Add to the cons:
No MHL output support
Limited USB OTG support
Limited HD video playback support
No S-Pen framework. (S-Pen pressure sensitivity goes away, button on the pen doen't work, and no S-Pen gestures)
I am currently on LPY, using Apex launcher. It's not the best experience to be sure, however, at least everything works. I'm really interested in giving the Paranoid Android hybrid ROM a whirl, but seeing as it is based on CM9, I'm assuming it still has the same bug list.
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE AOSP/AOKP/Hybrid builds, but I don't think I'll be using any of them as a daily driver until almost everything is working, or at least the important stuff. For me, on the Note, in order of importance, I would say my priority list would go something like this:
S-Pen framework stuff
Full hardware accelerated HD video playback (incl. 1080p)
USB OTG
MHL output
I really hope that devs are able to make this happen!
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u got a point there for sure depending what a daily driver means for you, in my case even 5,3" inches is too small to watch videos how much minutes it takes for your battery to die watching hd videos with lpy? or seconds?
I was between go back to some stock rooted GB because of the battery but decided to give it a try to cm and im enjoying, there is also this bricking witch problem with the lpy, so i prefer to wait till i get smth safe or stick to cm9, at least is safe.
dtorga said:
u got a point there for sure depending what a daily driver means for you, in my case even 5,3" inches is too small to watch videos how much minutes it takes for your battery to die watching hd videos with lpy? or seconds?
I was between go back to some stock rooted GB because of the battery but decided to give it a try to cm and im enjoying, there is also this bricking witch problem with the lpy, so i prefer to wait till i get smth safe or stick to cm9, at least is safe.
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Well i see that you're CM9 fanboy but Jade Eyed is so right in every thing.
If i want to have Vanilla i would buy Nexus (and it was cheeper anyway), i love my Note for every other aspect that Nexus doesn't have!
I love to draw on my Note, i love my big screen where can i watch movies on my night shifts, and i can watch 3 hole 2h movies before my battery die!
I love my OTG and my MHL support my Note has limiltless storage with my 64 GB usb stick in my pocket!
Vanilla Android is faster then Touchwiz?! Says who?! Note will destroy any phone in any benchmark even on GB!
I love my Note because it isn't Nexus. And it isn't like any other phone. And now i'll downgrade him to Vanilla Android to take away half of his functionality and apps?! Tnx but no tnx.
Cm9 nightlies ,reason is speeeeeeeeed and stability ,I've tried official GB and ICS, they were too slow and laggy for me, and kept reminding me of just how much faster my stock GB s2 was compared to the note .
But after cm9 it's safe to say that the note is as fast as an s2 .
ParanoidAndroid is the best! It is a rom that makes our notes big screens most useful (; you all should at least try it!
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Its like asking which girl is the best for you and why?
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Rocket because it a smooth stable experience. CheckRom it's not developing. Using latest kernel. No issues with bricking..... yet.
Itoo want all features working.
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Actually now im on kingdroid v2 and enjoying it,the battery is awesome and everything works fine just changed the modem to lb1 though and r3 kernel,in 4 days not even 1 fc (apart from the s suggest siii that doesnt work in czech republic...any hints to unblock the market?
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hi there,i have just a little question for who have more experience than me
exactly whats the difference between the 2 rom style?
yeah i know that there are lots of differences but my question was born because yesterday i finally decided to try a google edition rom cos i see that there are much more builders for google than the classic tw
the only reason i find its because its very very light ,doesnt have all samsung programs different setting (lol i thought i come back to my old Leo hd2 ) but i also noticed that all sensors dsnt work (if they work im so sorry but i kept only 10 min google edition cos i prefere the stock look)
so..considering this i dont understand why google edition has so many fan for me its look a sort of downgrade but i suppose there are benefits that i dont see or dont understand on my own
i dont want cause flames so give ur opinion or facts its the same its just to talk about
ps: sorry for english i always write without read what i wrote
For me there are some reasons to use the GE:
1) It isn't that huge and hasn't these samsung features i never used cause they are all a bit buggy.
2) No Bloatware
3) I love the Vanilla look
4) I get minimum +1 hour Screen On time, so its much more battery friendly
5) much more smoother and faster (Antutu Benachmarks of +2000)
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hi there,i have just a little question for who have more experience than me
exactly whats the difference between the 2 rom style?
yeah i know that there are lots of differences but my question was born because yesterday i finally decided to try a google edition rom cos i see that there are much more builders for google than the classic tw
the only reason i find its because its very very light ,doesnt have all samsung programs different setting (lol i thought i come back to my old Leo hd2 ) but i also noticed that all sensors dsnt work (if they work im so sorry but i kept only 10 min google edition cos i prefere the stock look)
so..considering this i dont understand why google edition has so many fan for me its look a sort of downgrade but i suppose there are benefits that i dont see or dont understand on my own
i dont want cause flames so give ur opinion or facts its the same its just to talk about
ps: sorry for english i always write without read what i wrote
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There are plenty of videos online directly comparing the two. Basically though, if you find Touchwiz ugly and irritating but like the S4 hardware then Google Edition ROMs/hardware are a godsend. The hardware does all work on the Google Editions as far as I know but there is no TV app and (obviously) no gesture based commands on Google Edition devices. This doesn't mean there aren't third party apps to cover most needs though. Unlike the old days of Cyanogenmod building from AOSP (which resulted in crap quality photos) the difference is negligible between TW and GE ROMs in terms of the output; though if you like the TW camera app the stock Google one might seem very basic.
Personally I can't wait for a means of converting my S4 to a 'real' Google Edition with OTA updates as I hate the very IDEA of all that gimmicky TouchWiz crap existing on my phone. I'm currently running the ODIN flashable version of GE which I've had no problems with as of the past few days.
I also own an HTC One so it would be tough living in a Touchwiz only world with an S4 when I have Sense 5 next to it. My One running pure, stock Sense 5.0 and I love it so it's not that I'm a fan of stock Android as such, I just think Samsung are clueless when it comes to nice design. Now with my S4 running Google Edition it is very hard choosing between the two devices!
MrSpiceGuy said:
For me there are some reasons to use the GE:
1) It isn't that huge and hasn't these samsung features i never used cause they are all a bit buggy.
2) No Bloatware
3) I love the Vanilla look
4) I get minimum +1 hour Screen On time, so its much more battery friendly
5) much more smoother and faster (Antutu Benachmarks of +2000)
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1) but with a nice extSD many space problem are resolved...i dont use my phone as an ipod so i dont have music files,only big games but coming from hd2 with ext4rom partittion have 4 or 5 gb free its incredible hehehehe of course my sd is full of roms and some ps1 rom for the emulator (im playing again all my old final fantasy and its AWSOME)
2) i still dont know what is it so i cant say nothing lol
3) nothing to say its personal
4) so its really longer than tw? i read there was many battery problems expecialli for 4.3 but also in 4,2.2 that can be very nice for me
5) i didnt see that...looks pretty the same but with antuntu i get 400point less than the omega rom v7 (no overclock or strange things)
aniway...i dont see much bugs in samsung apps...i kept the stock rom for 1 month and was perfect,the same for omega
i like have lots of stupid stuffs from samsung like the temperature and humidity sensor (just to say : hahaha ur phone cant do it )
i think when samsung will release the Api for the new sensors will be better because we have theme...why dont find a way to use better than samsung let u do?
another thing...i tested only 1 google rom but...multiwindow isnt present right? its very usefull when i want to play and girlfriend wants to talk on whatsaap so she see me always online heheheheh
Bloatware: useless installed apps from Samsung you can't delete (ofc with root you can) cause of this and more Samsung Roms are more than 1GB big, GE just 300+MB
The Battery from 4.3 was terrible but the 4.2.2 (Jamal's v9) is awesome!
"i like have lots of stupid stuffs from samsung like the temperature and humidity sensor (just to say : hahaha ur phone cant do it )"
> Works on GE, too.
".multiwindow isnt present right?"
Nope, these are Samsung features i meant in 1). Never used them, like Smart Pause etc.
These aren't available for the GE
There is one thing I don't like in GE, too
I miss the Cam from Samsung.
Hope they port a (functional) version!
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For me there are some reasons to use the GE:
1) It isn't that huge and hasn't these samsung features i never used cause they are all a bit buggy.
2) No Bloatware
3) I love the Vanilla look
4) I get minimum +1 hour Screen On time, so its much more battery friendly
5) much more smoother and faster (Antutu Benachmarks of +2000)
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MrSpiceGuy said:
Bloatware: useless installed apps from Samsung you can't delete (ofc with root you can) cause of this and more Samsung Roms are more than 1GB big, GE just 300+MB
The Battery from 4.3 was terrible but the 4.2.2 (Jamal's v9) is awesome!
"i like have lots of stupid stuffs from samsung like the temperature and humidity sensor (just to say : hahaha ur phone cant do it )"
> Works on GE, too.
".multiwindow isnt present right?"
Nope, these are Samsung features i meant in 1). Never used them, like Smart Pause etc.
These aren't available for the GE
There is one thing I don't like in GE, too
I miss the Cam from Samsung.
Hope they port a (functional) version!
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smart pause sucks lol but some air gesture like in gallery for a little preview or in video to see the image its a little usefull
i tried the v8 yesterday evening ,downloading the v9 right now...i will give a try for 2 days but i think i will come back to omega when take out something new for stock style
You're right. Air view and Smart Stay are good
Hi Everyone! So I've been presented with this problem as soon as I flashed the factory image of Kitkat 4.4 on my Nexus 4.
Audio stutters momentarily on random occasions, whether its audio or video playback.
So to solve this, I flashed GNOME II PAEK 1.1 ROM which is based on KitKat 4.4.2, still the same problem.
This never happened on 4.2.2 or 4.3, we did have deadlocks on 4.3 but never audio problems.
Lately, I've noticed the audio stuttering when I'm surfing the web using built in Chrome and the other time I noticed when I turned on the WiFi using the toggle in quick settings.
Some fine mess the user is in these days. I wonder what google has been thinking lately, don't they test the software properly before the release anymore?
I would like to hear your opinion, has anyone else noticed those slight stutters?
Regards.
P.S I've searched over the internet and many people with different android devices are having this problem on KitKat.
I guess it is part of the "DSP Tunneling" feature that puts more parts of audio processing into the DSP instead of the CPU.
It might cause some issues right now, but in the big picture Google is making Audio processing more battery friendly.
So i personally support it and hope they do not just revert it back to the old way. It could need some improvements, no doubt they will come time after time.
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I guess it is part of the "DSP Tunneling" feature that puts more parts of audio processing into the DSP instead of the CPU.
It might cause some issues right now, but in the big picture Google is making Audio processing more battery friendly.
So i personally support it and hope they do not just revert it back to the old way. It could need some improvements, no doubt they will come time after time.
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If its battery friendly, it could be good, but the users needs a fix soon.
Mainly because not everyone has the time to root their device and flash previous Android version after the update and those who choose not to update, they're stuck with annoying update reminder(talking about the general users here).
I'm all for the improvements but not at the cost of broken features. Besides, I've been monitoring the battery drain manually on stock and custom ROMS and I didn't notice much noticeable change. Lets see what happens in the future.
Pretty sure audio tunnelling is Nexus 5 only
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Hello guys, i have a samsung galaxy s4 and i decided to trip knox and to install Paranoid Android because on youtube videos it looked really amazing. But when i installed it i noticed that it has terrible audio and microphone quality. I can't understand someone when i am talking on the phone. Also i can't listen to a song in full volume because it really sucks. Is this for my device only? Is there any way that i can fix this?
Also there are other bugs but i don't really care about them.
edit: my PA version is 4.5 beta 3
You need to take your issue to your device maintainer because it is not officially supported by the PA team
#stayparanoid
it's fine with the stock rom but i just wanted to make sure it's just my device, because if it weren't i would wait for a fix.
Stock rom is worse than custom. Always.
I had a similar problem once. Firmware update did probably solve it.
Im not new to the rooting world by any means, but I took a little break when I got the v20. Decided to finally root it today (couldn't deal with the lag anymore) and flashed an also Ron. Been trying to read about whether it's possible but haven't found much. Can the stock camera app be used with an aosp rom at all?
well since my Optimus G Pro days I think this is a closed source so the camera maybe can be ported but not will the same if I wrong please guys correct me. but if you already rooted simply debloat and done. Honestly LG has improved much in their software I`m A Nexus fan but prefer LG over Sammy any day.
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Im not new to the rooting world by any means, but I took a little break when I got the v20. Decided to finally root it today (couldn't deal with the lag anymore) and flashed an also Ron. Been trying to read about whether it's possible but haven't found much. Can the stock camera app be used with an aosp rom at all?
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It's one of the biggest reasons why I always came back to TouchWiz on my S4 and Note 4 as the camera would only work on TouchWiz and to my knowledge no one ever got it to work on anything else. It wouldn't even work on the Google play editions which were basically stock Google with TouchWiz for some of the drivers.
I'd be willing to bet you would need the stock rom to be able to use the camera unfortunately.
Id be willing to bet it's an app screwing with your phone. Have you disabled lookout? I get lag here and there but it's rare enough that it doesn't bother me and it's usually only when the phone is hotter than normal, multitasking with a heavy game in background or after the phone has been in sleep for awhile which I think has to do with doze.
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It's one of the biggest reasons why I always came back to TouchWiz on my S4 and Note 4 as the camera would only work on TouchWiz and to my knowledge no one ever got it to work on anything else. It wouldn't even work on the Google play editions which were basically stock Google with TouchWiz for some of the drivers.
I'd be willing to bet you would need the stock rom to be able to use the camera unfortunately.
Id be willing to bet it's an app screwing with your phone. Have you disabled lookout? I get lag here and there but it's rare enough that it doesn't bother me and it's usually only when the phone is hotter than normal, multitasking with a heavy game in background or after the phone has been in sleep for awhile which I think has to do with doze.
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Yeah I have disabled most apps. Sorry for just now getting back to this lol. But it's a lag that I tend to experience with a lot of LG devices, my little brother had the g3, I experienced it there, we have an LG tablet, experienced it there too. I normally keep my apps closed and normally go into battery and force stop them, but still doesn't seem to fix it