hi there,i have just a little question for who have more experience than me
exactly whats the difference between the 2 rom style?
yeah i know that there are lots of differences but my question was born because yesterday i finally decided to try a google edition rom cos i see that there are much more builders for google than the classic tw
the only reason i find its because its very very light ,doesnt have all samsung programs different setting (lol i thought i come back to my old Leo hd2 ) but i also noticed that all sensors dsnt work (if they work im so sorry but i kept only 10 min google edition cos i prefere the stock look)
so..considering this i dont understand why google edition has so many fan for me its look a sort of downgrade but i suppose there are benefits that i dont see or dont understand on my own
i dont want cause flames so give ur opinion or facts its the same its just to talk about
ps: sorry for english i always write without read what i wrote
For me there are some reasons to use the GE:
1) It isn't that huge and hasn't these samsung features i never used cause they are all a bit buggy.
2) No Bloatware
3) I love the Vanilla look
4) I get minimum +1 hour Screen On time, so its much more battery friendly
5) much more smoother and faster (Antutu Benachmarks of +2000)
xardus said:
hi there,i have just a little question for who have more experience than me
exactly whats the difference between the 2 rom style?
yeah i know that there are lots of differences but my question was born because yesterday i finally decided to try a google edition rom cos i see that there are much more builders for google than the classic tw
the only reason i find its because its very very light ,doesnt have all samsung programs different setting (lol i thought i come back to my old Leo hd2 ) but i also noticed that all sensors dsnt work (if they work im so sorry but i kept only 10 min google edition cos i prefere the stock look)
so..considering this i dont understand why google edition has so many fan for me its look a sort of downgrade but i suppose there are benefits that i dont see or dont understand on my own
i dont want cause flames so give ur opinion or facts its the same its just to talk about
ps: sorry for english i always write without read what i wrote
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There are plenty of videos online directly comparing the two. Basically though, if you find Touchwiz ugly and irritating but like the S4 hardware then Google Edition ROMs/hardware are a godsend. The hardware does all work on the Google Editions as far as I know but there is no TV app and (obviously) no gesture based commands on Google Edition devices. This doesn't mean there aren't third party apps to cover most needs though. Unlike the old days of Cyanogenmod building from AOSP (which resulted in crap quality photos) the difference is negligible between TW and GE ROMs in terms of the output; though if you like the TW camera app the stock Google one might seem very basic.
Personally I can't wait for a means of converting my S4 to a 'real' Google Edition with OTA updates as I hate the very IDEA of all that gimmicky TouchWiz crap existing on my phone. I'm currently running the ODIN flashable version of GE which I've had no problems with as of the past few days.
I also own an HTC One so it would be tough living in a Touchwiz only world with an S4 when I have Sense 5 next to it. My One running pure, stock Sense 5.0 and I love it so it's not that I'm a fan of stock Android as such, I just think Samsung are clueless when it comes to nice design. Now with my S4 running Google Edition it is very hard choosing between the two devices!
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For me there are some reasons to use the GE:
1) It isn't that huge and hasn't these samsung features i never used cause they are all a bit buggy.
2) No Bloatware
3) I love the Vanilla look
4) I get minimum +1 hour Screen On time, so its much more battery friendly
5) much more smoother and faster (Antutu Benachmarks of +2000)
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1) but with a nice extSD many space problem are resolved...i dont use my phone as an ipod so i dont have music files,only big games but coming from hd2 with ext4rom partittion have 4 or 5 gb free its incredible hehehehe of course my sd is full of roms and some ps1 rom for the emulator (im playing again all my old final fantasy and its AWSOME)
2) i still dont know what is it so i cant say nothing lol
3) nothing to say its personal
4) so its really longer than tw? i read there was many battery problems expecialli for 4.3 but also in 4,2.2 that can be very nice for me
5) i didnt see that...looks pretty the same but with antuntu i get 400point less than the omega rom v7 (no overclock or strange things)
aniway...i dont see much bugs in samsung apps...i kept the stock rom for 1 month and was perfect,the same for omega
i like have lots of stupid stuffs from samsung like the temperature and humidity sensor (just to say : hahaha ur phone cant do it )
i think when samsung will release the Api for the new sensors will be better because we have theme...why dont find a way to use better than samsung let u do?
another thing...i tested only 1 google rom but...multiwindow isnt present right? its very usefull when i want to play and girlfriend wants to talk on whatsaap so she see me always online heheheheh
Bloatware: useless installed apps from Samsung you can't delete (ofc with root you can) cause of this and more Samsung Roms are more than 1GB big, GE just 300+MB
The Battery from 4.3 was terrible but the 4.2.2 (Jamal's v9) is awesome!
"i like have lots of stupid stuffs from samsung like the temperature and humidity sensor (just to say : hahaha ur phone cant do it )"
> Works on GE, too.
".multiwindow isnt present right?"
Nope, these are Samsung features i meant in 1). Never used them, like Smart Pause etc.
These aren't available for the GE
There is one thing I don't like in GE, too
I miss the Cam from Samsung.
Hope they port a (functional) version!
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For me there are some reasons to use the GE:
1) It isn't that huge and hasn't these samsung features i never used cause they are all a bit buggy.
2) No Bloatware
3) I love the Vanilla look
4) I get minimum +1 hour Screen On time, so its much more battery friendly
5) much more smoother and faster (Antutu Benachmarks of +2000)
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Bloatware: useless installed apps from Samsung you can't delete (ofc with root you can) cause of this and more Samsung Roms are more than 1GB big, GE just 300+MB
The Battery from 4.3 was terrible but the 4.2.2 (Jamal's v9) is awesome!
"i like have lots of stupid stuffs from samsung like the temperature and humidity sensor (just to say : hahaha ur phone cant do it )"
> Works on GE, too.
".multiwindow isnt present right?"
Nope, these are Samsung features i meant in 1). Never used them, like Smart Pause etc.
These aren't available for the GE
There is one thing I don't like in GE, too
I miss the Cam from Samsung.
Hope they port a (functional) version!
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smart pause sucks lol but some air gesture like in gallery for a little preview or in video to see the image its a little usefull
i tried the v8 yesterday evening ,downloading the v9 right now...i will give a try for 2 days but i think i will come back to omega when take out something new for stock style
You're right. Air view and Smart Stay are good
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Hey guys. Just installed android 5.0 on my N9005 32gb and although it works fine, haven't really found any bugs, there are things that annoy me. Firstly, even on L, I seem to still be on Dalvik Cache with no option to turn on ART (not even in developer options). Secondly, running it on UK, yet I do not have my keyboard symbols...rather unpleasant for me, to be honest.
Many things that were expected to have been in L i seem to not have ( seriously, still just ripple and watercolour lockscreens only?!)... i dont know, maybe I had too high expectations for it. But right now, especially without Xposed, i am not really impressed. What about your thoughts?
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Hey guys. Just installed android 5.0 on my N9005 32gb and although it works fine, haven't really found any bugs, there are things that annoy me. Firstly, even on L, I seem to still be on Dalvik Cache with no option to turn on ART (not even in developer options). Secondly, running it on UK, yet I do not have my keyboard symbols...rather unpleasant for me, to be honest.
Many things that were expected to have been in L i seem to not have ( seriously, still just ripple and watercolour lockscreens only?!)... i dont know, maybe I had too high expectations for it. But right now, especially without Xposed, i am not really impressed. What about your thoughts?
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im disappointing a little because samsung didnt update note 3 camera with s5 i like the fast focus and faster processing which s5 camera software have - i dont care about those gimmik selective focus or slow motion or whatever / the multi window seems not support all apps i tried install application which make all apps supported but nothing happen same thing happen to the pen window / i hate smart select in newer air command when i select a video it takes it as image not video like scarpbook was doing now i have to share link to scrapbook .
what i like =
my note become really fast and premium cause i love those white menu everywhere / they didnt make the button like s5 so we still get the menu button like note 3 / my magazine is still like note 3 instead of bad s5 or note 4 gimmik you just swipe up to open magazine / newer touchwiz launcher
so i feel like i dont want to downgrade samsung make a good move this time
The multuwindow seems like its still work in progress... i really like the floating windows, but to me it doesnt seem like i have access to them so easily.
As for the "premium" white theme, that is, in my opinion, the dumbest, most counterproductive thing that Samsung could do. With their great AMOLED screens to put white stuff everywhere?! Seriously? White, which consumes our battery the most? Black menus, in my opinion, not only do they look better, but upon some tests on 4.4, they increased my battery a hell damn lot. I do love the good old MyMagazine though, gotta admit, but other than that, there are so many things that they either did not include, or they miserably failed with (again, still Dalvik, on LOLLIPOP?!).
I am, by all means, unimpressed and quite fisappointed by what touchwiz has done to Android L
so.. nobody read is a "UNOFICIAL" leaked ?, update for N9005 is in 02/2015.,
@ op holy ****, does running dalvik mean xposed can run? did you try?
I for one am very pleased with this update. It brought the note 4 pen features, pulling windows from the corner works great and makes things easier, recents looks awesome, animations are beatiful and minimalistic.
This is the best Samsung update yet, without a doubt. It's like the Samsung team hired totally different people for designing touch wiz. The color scheme could be better but it's definetly heading towards the right direction.
That, and the small amount of time it took them to make this update happen, is proof that Samsung are finally changing their policy. Looks like the small sales of the s5 this year woke them up.
Well, @lvnatic, you do make a pretty strong case
Lets just hope the final version will bring even more good stuff to it, and then a dev to make us a black/dark mod of it so my eyes won't hurt
Hey.
I have SM-N900 with 4.4.2 and rooted.
My phone start to be **** and work with lags so..... its for wipe and install the new update.
so I saw this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...s-android-development/mar-10-pekakas-t3051018
and he looking good and everything
but he say that I need to have 5.0 first to install it..
how ?
and why every dev hate the Exynos ? no love for him...
sometime I want to install CM but.... the pen will stop work and more
Just go here, http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-N900/
Download a 5.0 ROM, and flash it via Odin. If you find a ROM for your region then obviously download that. Done. Then you can flash any custom ROM you want.
Why Exynos hate? Well I am an idiot and as far as I know devs need to spend quite a lot of more time developing for Exynos than Snapdragon, and obviously they choose to do the easier work.
And a friendly suggestion, please STAY AWAY from those AOSP based ROMs. They will make the phone half disabled, I am just coming from one just yesterday, and one more thing, they aren't that much smoother than TouhcWiz Lollipop either, which was my main reason to flash such a ROM, and literally waste a full two hour! Call it LagWiz, CrapWiz, BloatWiz, whatever the heck you want, I am not going anywhere near those AOSP things ever again.
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Just go here, http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-N900/
Download a 5.0 ROM, and flash it via Odin. If you find a ROM for your region then obviously download that. Done. Then you can flash any custom ROM you want.
Why Exynos hate? Well I am an idiot and as far as I know devs need to spend quite a lot of more time developing for Exynos than Snapdragon, and obviously they choose to do the easier work.
And a friendly suggestion, please STAY AWAY from those AOSP based ROMs. They will make the phone half disabled, I am just coming from one just yesterday, and one more thing, they aren't that much smoother than TouhcWiz Lollipop either, which was my main reason to flash such a ROM, and literally waste a full two hour! Call it LagWiz, CrapWiz, BloatWiz, whatever the heck you want, I am not going anywhere near those AOSP things ever again.
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ok I understand now how to install 5.0. thanks
but why to stay away from AOSP ?
I saw this " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYofb7zYrt4 " and his phone work great and fast also his pen work..
and what do you mean half disabled ? you talk about features of samsung ?
Seriously I can't stand my phone anymore with lags and full RAM use for unknown reason ( and even I use Greenify / Wanam / bootmanager )
still he work like crap and after restart he start to work good again for like... a few hours or days
man I really need to change
Well several number of reasons really. The deal breaker for me was there was no option to change the display mode! I mean I am talking about the different display profiles, Cinema, Adapt, Professional etc, I couldn't choose that, and I was stuck with the default Adaptive one, which is way too over saturated! Then there are the S Pen things, this and that software is there, but nothing could be as smooth as having Action Memo merged with S Note, on which I heavily depend. Then there is the camera, and the lack of 60 frames video. Also the camera photo quality in general, is it comparable to TouchWiz's stock camera? I doubt!
I was ready to compromise on all of these, but that lack of display profile thing was impossible for me to bear.
Honestly there is very minimal lag with TouchWiz 5.0, OF3, on my N9005. But I think bloody Samsung didn't implement the TW on Exynos as good as they did on SD devices, so maybe you indeed face some lag issues. I myself couldn't bear the KitKat or Jelly Bean or whatever the heck it was on my I9500, lag, bugs, what not, but TouchWiz Lollipop is an entirely different thing. I also don't see any low RAM issue at all!
In any case, if you want to try out some AOSP stuffs, do that, it's your phone after all...
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Well several number of reasons really. The deal breaker for me was there was no option to change the display mode! I mean I am talking about the different display profiles, Cinema, Adapt, Professional etc, I couldn't choose that, and I was stuck with the default Adaptive one, which is way too over saturated! Then there are the S Pen things, this and that software is there, but nothing could be as smooth as having Action Memo merged with S Note, on which I heavily depend. Then there is the camera, and the lack of 60 frames video. Also the camera photo quality in general, is it comparable to TouchWiz's stock camera? I doubt!
I was ready to compromise on all of these, but that lack of display profile thing was impossible for me to bear.
Honestly there is very minimal lag with TouchWiz 5.0, OF3, on my N9005. But I think bloody Samsung didn't implement the TW on Exynos as good as they did on SD devices, so maybe you indeed face some lag issues. I myself couldn't bear the KitKat or Jelly Bean or whatever the heck it was on my I9500, lag, bugs, what not, but TouchWiz Lollipop is an entirely different thing. I also don't see any low RAM issue at all!
In any case, if you want to try out some AOSP stuffs, do that, it's your phone after all...
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For people like you that note with its bloatware is meant for, aosp based roms are never a thing for you.
When I bought note 3 i did it for its hardware specs and really hated tw. Never gonna back to that crap.
What you miss we others that love cm find a way to live better with than living with tw.
LOL I always see these things/debates posted of not using AOSP or TouchWiz... it's really a preference... but here's the thing, TW based phones are usually more stable. The only reason being is, they have less changes to the core of the OS. AND you don't have to use TW (at least not the slow ugly launcher). TW is crap, you can use another launcher and debloat - to have something purring. AOSP do something similar, but of course it's not as stable --- but this is more developer dependent. Some are better than others, some load it with their own bloat/crapwear (because they think it's what others will want).
In conclusion... lol make your own conclusion. Be sure to read the forums (not just first and last pages) for any problems on the rom you choose. I would highly recommend something that has minimal changes, but lets you add or remove what you want.
Good luck!
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For people like you that note with its bloatware is meant for, aosp based roms are never a thing for you.
When I bought note 3 i did it for its hardware specs and really hated tw. Never gonna back to that crap.
What you miss we others that love cm find a way to live better with than living with tw.
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Yeah thanks lad, and for kids like you CM/ AOSP or whatever they wanna call it is as overhyped as it is. A ROM where bug list is lengthier than feature list, and some people still talk :laugh:
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Yeah thanks lad, and for kids like you CM/ AOSP or whatever they wanna call it is as overhyped as it is. A ROM where bug list is lengthier than feature list, and some people still talk [emoji23]
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Wow. Please stay away from anything not related to Samsung.
kenny1991 said:
Wow. Please stay away from anything not related to Samsung.
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Let me be the judge of that. I will say whatever I want, whenever I want, wherever I want. Deal with that.
You are what, 24 now? Talk when you are in your mid 30s, maybe by then you could gain some IQ and be a little practical, and the hype/ brainwash adrenaline will settle down.
Hey all,
It's been a while since I left the Samsung flock and went back to Sony but this years new Xperia Line just isn't doing it for me and the S7 Edge has really grabbed me. I'm getting it in a few weeks and the amount of info to take on is staggering. I have figured out that the UK model is a differnet chip but similar enough in performance.
I didn't bother rooting my Xperias as it broke the camera, but coming back to Samsung I'm not sure I can deal with Touchwiz again. I rooted my S2 and S3 in almost no time and installed stock or Cyanogen most of the time. My recollections of touchwiz are not great, and Sony ran pretty close to Stock/Vanilla.
So my questions:
Is touchwiz any better now?
Do I need touchwiz for the edge functionality?
Does rooting/rom installing still cause the counter (I forget it's name) to go up? Or have Sammy finally got rid of that. I don't want to lose my warrenty in a matter of days lol
Any other roms have edge functionality
Are Sammy faster with updates these days? I used to go mad waiting for them to catch up!
Sorry for the list of noob questions but it's been a while and I was getting lost in all the threads!
You do not need TouchWiz to use Edge functions. I use Nova launcher and it's working perfectly.
If you like to flash with ODIN, then you have every week an update to flash.
Updates are faster and it has been this way for 3 months now
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If you like to flash with ODIN, then you have every week an update to flash.
Updates are faster and it has been this way for 3 months now
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Wow that's good to hear, they seemed to lag behind a lot in the old days of my s2/s3
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You do not need TouchWiz to use Edge functions. I use Nova launcher and it's working perfectly.
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Brilliant!
Rooting will almost certainly invalidate any warranty. You will also not be able to use samsung pay or nfc.
Touch whizz is not as bad as some folks let on about. It's usually persistent rooters that like nothing more than to play with phone settings all day, every day. Call them obsessives if you want .
Besides, ' ... a few weeks' as you put it is a lifetime in mobile phone terms. There will be an influx of new models by then and the S7 (and other current phones) will be museum pieces : -)
touch wiz has improved a lot from a while back. lag factor isn't really a issue these days. not saying it won't ever lag, any phone can even a iphone. but as far as edge functions u will need a touch wiz based rom if you are rooting i would think because it is part of touchwiz. 3rd party launchers will help u if u really don't want to look at touch wiz but it still needs to be there if that makes sense
as far as updates it isn't all that bad. i know on my note 5 i got mm on my sprint version before other carriers. so that has something to do with it too
This is my first Galaxy since the S2 and IMO Touchwiz is alot better than the iterations that I seen on previous friend's phones.
That said if you do take the plunge and end up not being satisfied with TW I recommend downloading the Good Lock app in the Galaxy store. Pretty much gets rid of TW and moves towards a clean android stock take on the notification drawer.
Good to hear, I recall touchwiz being a laggy mess and so far from the comfort of cyanogen etc.
Thanks all!
Think I won't root, but I might strip out some of the bloatware etc.
Shadey1 said:
Good to hear, I recall touchwiz being a laggy mess and so far from the comfort of cyanogen etc.
Thanks all!
Think I won't root, but I might strip out some of the bloatware etc.
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No point. Few if any are resource hoggers. Better make sure you only have apps like Facebook active when you are actually using them. They, unlike most bloatware, really can have an impact on battery.
Im not new to the rooting world by any means, but I took a little break when I got the v20. Decided to finally root it today (couldn't deal with the lag anymore) and flashed an also Ron. Been trying to read about whether it's possible but haven't found much. Can the stock camera app be used with an aosp rom at all?
well since my Optimus G Pro days I think this is a closed source so the camera maybe can be ported but not will the same if I wrong please guys correct me. but if you already rooted simply debloat and done. Honestly LG has improved much in their software I`m A Nexus fan but prefer LG over Sammy any day.
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Im not new to the rooting world by any means, but I took a little break when I got the v20. Decided to finally root it today (couldn't deal with the lag anymore) and flashed an also Ron. Been trying to read about whether it's possible but haven't found much. Can the stock camera app be used with an aosp rom at all?
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It's one of the biggest reasons why I always came back to TouchWiz on my S4 and Note 4 as the camera would only work on TouchWiz and to my knowledge no one ever got it to work on anything else. It wouldn't even work on the Google play editions which were basically stock Google with TouchWiz for some of the drivers.
I'd be willing to bet you would need the stock rom to be able to use the camera unfortunately.
Id be willing to bet it's an app screwing with your phone. Have you disabled lookout? I get lag here and there but it's rare enough that it doesn't bother me and it's usually only when the phone is hotter than normal, multitasking with a heavy game in background or after the phone has been in sleep for awhile which I think has to do with doze.
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It's one of the biggest reasons why I always came back to TouchWiz on my S4 and Note 4 as the camera would only work on TouchWiz and to my knowledge no one ever got it to work on anything else. It wouldn't even work on the Google play editions which were basically stock Google with TouchWiz for some of the drivers.
I'd be willing to bet you would need the stock rom to be able to use the camera unfortunately.
Id be willing to bet it's an app screwing with your phone. Have you disabled lookout? I get lag here and there but it's rare enough that it doesn't bother me and it's usually only when the phone is hotter than normal, multitasking with a heavy game in background or after the phone has been in sleep for awhile which I think has to do with doze.
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Yeah I have disabled most apps. Sorry for just now getting back to this lol. But it's a lag that I tend to experience with a lot of LG devices, my little brother had the g3, I experienced it there, we have an LG tablet, experienced it there too. I normally keep my apps closed and normally go into battery and force stop them, but still doesn't seem to fix it
HI all.
I'm a new Samsung Galaxy Note 4 owner! Recently upgraded from a Note 3. Phones are years old but are decently priced and still good phones when you're not looking for something too fancy.
Honestly, the Note 3 was the best phone I've ever had and was looking forward to a Note 4 upgrade (was looking forward to the fingerprint scanner, even if not the best, and to the metal edges)
Now, I'd just like to ask for a few pointers on this device. Any custom ROM suggestions? Anything I should know about?
I am doing my fair share of research, I've been reading a lot of posts regarding this device, posts that are months old, posts that are years old and I've gotten myself a general idea of what to expect.
But I think even with all this reading, I probably won't be able to compare what I learn from these posts to someone that has owned a Note 4 for months, possibly years! Which is why I'm posting this thread, to ask those who have had this device for a longer time and will probably continue to use it for a longer time since this phone is amazing!
I just want to ask you Note 4 owners, if you bought a brand new Note 4, what set-up will you prefer? Custom ROM? Stock ROM? Any kernels you would flash?
I know the best ROM will always be stock ROM, but is there any worth-while N7 ports for the Note 4? I'm a big fan of the off-screen memo, the smart screen capture (scroll and screen-recording that records gifs) and also enjoy tweaking the kernel (overclock) for smoother game performance. I've also read that the most common problem with ports is the fingerprint scanner. I'll probably end up doing the work-around since no custom ROM has gotten this fixed (from what I read it's almost impossible without leaving a lot of the stock ROM's assets which defeat the point of a custom ROM).
Currently, I am downloading stock EQI2 6.0.1 which is the latest firmware for the N910T variant. I know that the T-Mobile variant has it's own forum but I usually see that the "Samsung Galaxy Note 4" thread is the most active and sometimes includes things for the T-Mobile variant (was the same case with the Note 3, the T-Mobile forum was dead and the international forum was alive and well)
It's running 5.0.1 software right now, hopefully 6.0.1 is better.
Thank you for your time!
I kindly invite you to try the unified trlte build linked in the [ROM] [UNOFFICIAL] [7.1.2] LineageOS 14.1 [SM-N910F/G/P/R4/T/T3/V/W8] thread.
ripee said:
I kindly invite you to try the unified trlte build linked in the [ROM] [UNOFFICIAL] [7.1.2] LineageOS 14.1 [SM-N910F/G/P/R4/T/T3/V/W8] thread.
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Thanks for your input, I am currently trying out a Note 7 ROM port, but if it doesn't work out I will try it out
Personally, I prefer to run the stock OS that comes pre-installed on my device and update the OS to the latest version provided by the manufacturer. As I know for a fact that Custom 3rd Party OSs do not have the best post imaging software. Which hinders the performance of the camera sensor on your device.
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Personally, I prefer to run the stock OS that comes pre-installed on my device and update the OS to the latest version provided by the manufacturer. As I know for a fact that Custom 3rd Party OSs do not have the best post imaging software. Which hinders the performance of the camera sensor on your device.
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Been snooping around and messing with a couple of custom ROM's either with Note 7/8 features and S7 Edge/S8.
I really like the look overall to the stock Note 4 UI, but I seem to have a very bad luck with random reboots and some features missing (fingerprint) or not working (night clock).
I was really afraid my phone was doomed with the eMMC failure I keep reading about that plagued the Note 4, but I don't have any problems running stock.
Yup, I guess my motto came true. "The best ROM is always STOCK ROM", even if it looks a bit out-dated.
I'm currently running stock and a custom kernel I found for stock MM. I'm pleased with the results so far, just kind of wish I could boot straight in to camera with double HOME press
Best advice I can give you , owning the phone for 2,5 years, is to never use quick charge and never update the phone or flash custom roms while the phone is being charged.
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Best advice I can give you , owning the phone for 2,5 years, is to never use quick charge and never update the phone or flash custom roms while the phone is being charged.
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That's interesting, the first time I've ever read not to use quick charge. What particular reason do you have to suggest this?
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That's interesting, the first time I've ever read not to use quick charge. What particular reason do you have to suggest this?
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I am amazed you are not aware of the motherboard brick problem of the note 4 !
Do a quick search and read about the motherboard Emmc problem on a lot of Note 4s.
Cheers!
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I was really afraid my phone was doomed with the eMMC failure I keep reading about that plagued the Note 4, but I don't have any problems running stock.
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snatch_bill said:
I am amazed you are not aware of the motherboard brick problem of the note 4 !
Do a quick search and read about the motherboard Emmc problem on a lot of Note 4s.
Cheers!
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I did read about it, I just wasn't sure what was the root cause for it. So I guess fast charge is the culprit? Every place I read this people seemed to blame an update either from KK to LL, or from LL to MM. Wow... I gotta think about this one. One of the reasons I love this phone over my Note 3 is because of the quick charge. Man :/
Gotta think about trading that feature in for... you know... a FUNCTIONAL PHONE :laugh:
ShaDisNX255 said:
I did read about it, I just wasn't sure what was the root cause for it. So I guess fast charge is the culprit? Every place I read this people seemed to blame an update either from KK to LL, or from LL to MM. Wow... I gotta think about this one. One of the reasons I love this phone over my Note 4 is because of the quick charge. Man :/
Gotta think about trading that feature in for... you know... a FUNCTIONAL PHONE :laugh:
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IMO the culprit was a heavy update(eg. from lollipop to Marshmallow) being installed , while the phone was pluged in being quickcharged.
This pushed the temperatures to exceed the max threshold of a bad emmc solder on the motherboard on some specific batches of the note 4.
snatch_bill said:
IMO the culprit was a heavy update(eg. from lollipop to Marshmallow) being installed , while the phone was pluged in being quickcharged.
This pushed the temperatures to exceed the max threshold of a bad emmc solder on the motherboard on some specific batches of the note 4.
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So you think regular quick charge should be fine? The phone doesn't heat up with regular quick charge, so I really hope it's safe. I know that just to be safe, I shouldn't use quick charge. But I guess I'll roll the dice.
I updated from LL to MM via Odin, so it wasn't quick charging :victory:
ShaDisNX255 said:
So you think regular quick charge should be fine? The phone doesn't heat up with regular quick charge, so I really hope it's safe. I know that just to be safe, I shouldn't use quick charge. But I guess I'll roll the dice.
I updated from LL to MM via Odin, so it wasn't quick charging :victory:
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In my case , my phone gets really warm while being quickcharged even if I am not using it at all.
I live in a warm place though!
If you want to use quickcharge , I suggest you go ahead and use it but without using the phone during the charge.
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In my case , my phone gets really warm while being quickcharged even if I am not using it at all.
I live in a warm place though!
If you want to use quickcharge , I suggest you go ahead and use it but without using the phone during the charge.
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Yeah, I'll take my precautions. Thank you for your input
I have an exynos version so can't tell you much about the snapdragon versions (also never heard of emmc problems on exynos devices, the only problem I have is IR blaster stopped working some update ago and never worked again since), but here's little general advice :
Stock ROM is perfectly reliable and very smooth with little customization :
I recommend a package disabler app like EZ disabler to get rid of bloat. I disable anything that doesn't have a clear use for me . If something breaks functionality I enable it back.
If you don't want to root you can use adhel to block ads in very efficient way .
If you do want to root I recommend magisk . It's the best way to do it because if anything goes wrong you can just uninstall it and everything is fine again , it doesn't affect system partition.
Also system less xposed works great if you use the proper version . I love youtube background mod.
In my experience you should never use apps that claim to save battery like amplify/greenify etc . (In some cases they drain the battery even faster with their continuous background services) The better way to save power is to not install power hungry apps in the first place or disable them with EZ disabler . Also disable animations and just disable functions when you don't use them : Sync/Location /Bluetooth etc .
Last but not least : download and use Samsung game booster : it's amazing for our old gpus : you can lower resolution/frame rates to make games more playable and battery last longer .
These were my quick tips . Hope you enjoy your new phone !
r33fd said:
I have an exynos version so can't tell you much about the snapdragon versions (also never heard of emmc problems on exynos devices, the only problem I have is IR blaster stopped working some update ago and never worked again since), but here's little general advice :
Stock ROM is perfectly reliable and very smooth with little customization :
I recommend a package disabler app like EZ disabler to get rid of bloat. I disable anything that doesn't have a clear use for me . If something breaks functionality I enable it back.
If you don't want to root you can use adhel to block ads in very efficient way .
If you do want to root I recommend magisk . It's the best way to do it because if anything goes wrong you can just uninstall it and everything is fine again , it doesn't affect system partition.
Also system less xposed works great if you use the proper version . I love youtube background mod.
In my experience you should never use apps that claim to save battery like amplify/greenify etc . (In some cases they drain the battery even faster with their continuous background services) The better way to save power is to not install power hungry apps in the first place or disable them with EZ disabler . Also disable animations and just disable functions when you don't use them : Sync/Location /Bluetooth etc .
Last but not least : download and use Samsung game booster : it's amazing for our old gpus : you can lower resolution/frame rates to make games more playable and battery last longer .
These were my quick tips . Hope you enjoy your new phone !
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The only small problem I have with stock is that it looks outdated. I know visuals are the least you should look for in a ROM, should be more worried about stability and battery life, but I simply can't deny that visually, stock TW UI bothers me.
But I guess I'll have to get used to it anyway since all the ROMs I've tried have issues here and there, but most importantly I get random shut downs and reboots with most custom ROMs and I lose the fingerprint scanner.
As for games, I heavily play a game called Shadowgun Deadzone. It's not that graphics heavy, but I need it to run smooth. I haven't tried Samsung's game booster, I've only messed around with custom kernels and changing the CPU governor, overclocking, etc... and it runs fine for a little while, but starts chugging after a few minutes in.
If the game booster can fix this, heck I can stick with stock ROM without any problems.
When you say it looks outdated
Are you talking about the launcher?
If so why not try the many other launchers out there? Like nova launcher..
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When you say it looks outdated
Are you talking about the launcher?
If so why not try the many other launchers out there? Like nova launcher..
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A launcher can only do so much. I'm referring to mostly on things like the notification drawer, the settings and stuff like that.