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I have found the real reason that Samsung was ans is late to updating their phones to the latest or next to latest versions of Android Fryo and 2.3/2.4 Gingerbread.... Its simple Apple has Samsung as a supplier for the Iphone's A4 cpu and its Retina Display (which is probably a version of the Galaxy S screen super-AMOLED. Thus I found this..."Apple is quite annoyed by Samsung's fast rise in a market which it virtually created," James Song, an analyst at Daewoo Securities, said on Friday." This would make perfect sense since Samsung does not want to offend one of its chief customers.
Could this be the reason? Stay tuned news at 11pm, updates as they happen...
I really hate apple. Jobs should get an award for single handedly making people technically dumber. Most iphone users can barely navigate itunes let alone a pc. I hope the iphone 5 bombs and sammy outsells it with the galaxy S2. I will never be able to use another handset if it doesnt have a samoled display.
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I don't believe they make their lcd's and its not a super amoled display on the iphone4. This is not the reason sammy is late with updates. The reason they're late is they suck at software(getting better tho) and all the individual carrier crap they have to add in or make provisions for.
FYI; samsung and apple look to be bitter rivals now.
RushAOZ said:
I really hate apple. Jobs should get an award for single handedly making people technically dumber. Most iphone users can barely navigate itunes let alone a pc. I hope the iphone 5 bombs and sammy outsells it with the galaxy S2. I will never be able to use another handset if it doesnt have a samoled display.
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i am an android lover but one could also say that Jobs was so smart that he made it possible for companies like Samsung and HTC to become bigg sellers in this market that Jobs created. Like the super villains in moves Jobs may have created his own enemies...
I don't think that has anything to do with it.
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samsung makes a lot of parts for a lot of different cell phones and non samsung related products. I do know samsung makes some htc screens, ie. Incredible, evo, ect....
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i am an android lover but one could also say that Jobs was so smart that he made it possible for companies like Samsung and HTC to become bigg sellers in this market that Jobs created. Like the super villains in moves Jobs may have created his own enemies...
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Not true. The main reasons we live in such a smartphone driven world today is blackberry, motorola, and, honestly, windows mobile. The idea that we could have full keyboards (since texting had become so commonplace), keep an array of files with us, and music on our phones intrigued a large portion of consumers. The first true "turning point" in my opinion was when the motorola q was released. It was the first smartphone geared towards the normal consumer and not businessmen.
You have to give motorola credit. While they may suck at a lot of things, they have generally been "pioneers" in that they change consumers minds for them. The razor introduced the idea of ultra slim phones, the Q introduced a phone that's more than a phone, and the Droid made the general (unaware) public aware of the android OS. If anything, apple has been following their lead. Just with better marketing and implementation lol.
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No he didn't. The only reasons apple is where they are is because of the app store and how ridiculously easy it is to use that pos. Apple didn't invent **** or bring anything new to the table. They just released an easy to use phone in a market that was flooded with ****ty winmo phones. Stop spreading that hoopla about jobs and apple "inventing". Its the reason why android is speeding by and apple wont catch up unless they finally revise ios and make it more functional... but at that point they'd be copying off android wouldn't they? There's nothing new under the sun. Its never what you do but how its done.
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It's not Samsung that holds up upgrades. It is U.S. carriers. International Samsung phones get their upgrades months before ours.
Considering Apple is sueing sammy, and sammy is sueing apple, I venture to guess apple is looking to expand its suppliers.
Oh and retina is not amoled, its high density lcd.
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epicslam said:
I have found the real reason that Samsung was ans is late to updating their phones to the latest or next to latest versions of Android Fryo and 2.3/2.4 Gingerbread.... Its simple Apple has Samsung as a supplier for the Iphone's A4 cpu and its Retina Display (which is probably a version of the Galaxy S screen super-AMOLED. Thus I found this..."Apple is quite annoyed by Samsung's fast rise in a market which it virtually created," James Song, an analyst at Daewoo Securities, said on Friday." This would make perfect sense since Samsung does not want to offend one of its chief customers.
Could this be the reason? Stay tuned news at 11pm, updates as they happen...
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This may just be the most ridiculous thing I've ever read on XDA... It would be a little less ridiculous if you had your facts straight.
I Hope they both get FK'ed over... honestly Apple has made people retarded.
and Sammy has continually screwed it's customers over with updates...
i Just wish there was a company that cared about its customers instead of profits... But then again that'll never happen.
There are two reasons why Samsung was so late with updates.
1. There was a huge bug in in their bloatware with Froyo that made it difficult to make a non-buggy port.
2. The carriers are the ones who send out our updates; for all we know we could have gotten it months before if it were an international carrier supporting our updates.
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Its because its a new processor and now that they have the basic framework pretty well mapped we should now start seeing updates much sooner once they are released. But then again I could be wrong and be creating another unfounded rumor like op is doing.
Its because Sammy wants to get people to buy their new phones when they come out. The sgs II
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Jobs is just mad he knows the sgs2 will take a massive dump on whatever iphone hes putting together. Oh! I can't have my provider of parts and lcds outsell my phone too!! You know what's really ****ing hilarious?? I bet that jobs uses android. Any real power user considers idevices a joke.
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Jobs is just mad he knows the sgs2 will take a massive dump on whatever iphone hes putting together. Oh! I can't have my provider of parts and lcds outsell my phone too!! You know what's really ****ing hilarious?? I bet that jobs uses android. Any real power user considers idevices a joke.
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Chill dude =P
But yeah, an Iphone is like all the Pop music today. The close-minded people thinks it's the best on Earth, when there's so many things better than it.
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Its because Sammy wants to get people to buy their new phones when they come out. The sgs II
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well read the link to the article. From a business stand point would you want to tick off one of your biggest customers? I think that apple is not the best thing on the face of the earth. They are just good at marketing to a select group of people. I do think that Apple told Samsung to slow the updates and which as a up side would give samsung money from people purchasing more phones off contract from carriers.
ok..first of all as stated..the IPS-LCD in iphone 4 is not made by samsung..its made by LG...also...Samsung does not make Evo screens either...
There is also no one to offend..Apple's strategy revolves around making big checks to companies with latest tech to make shortages for competitors..Samsung on the other hand wont have shortages as they can make their own...
Also, there has been no delay on 2.3/2.4..it came out in standard time on the international Galaxy S..just because google released Gignerbread 4 month ago did not mean it was ready for the public...if you follow trend of Nexus One and Nexus S..it seems like it takes around 4 months for it go rom developer phone to first consumer phone...
And as for Froyo delays...most of it was US carriers fault...
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well read the link to the article. From a business stand point would you want to tick off one of your biggest customers? I think that apple is not the best thing on the face of the earth. They are just good at marketing to a select group of people. I do think that Apple told Samsung to slow the updates and which as a up side would give samsung money from people purchasing more phones off contract from carriers.
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Apple had nothing to do with it. The screen for the iPhone 4 is made by LG, by the way. Samsung has Apple by the balls because they are their second-largest part supplier behind Sony, so no. Samsung and carriers are to blame for neglecting their customer-base. Google has now made a new clause in their manufacturer contracts that says Google has to review any UI customizations a handset maker puts over Android before they will give them early access to their source code. This means no more carrier and manufacturer drag-ass or excuses for grossly neglected software updates to customers. Google will simply make the handset maker's life hell as well as revoke their competitive edge in beating others to the market with the latest version of Android. It's a round-about way of making handset makers like Samsung fall the **** in line and stop screwing around with this "fragmentation" crap.
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We want openness now we want support we want updates fixes etc etc dont abandon us
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I'm letting Dell know by not buying their product. What kind of company makes the phone for Tmo, cancels that, then makes it for ATT, begins selling unlocked versions yet still limits Tmo to edge. All the while making functioning ones for Cin. Bell. F Dell.
Samsung Hercules is worth the wait at this point.
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Your totally right.... Just makes me mad that these companies release hardware and only support the users for a brief period of time. Google needs to lay down some mega rules on the use of android and force the OEM's to support the product for a period of 4 years or more..
Yeah right, also bankers should accept responsibility for screwing us over and politicians should all be honest!
Dell (and every other company, anywhere, ever) are not in business to create good products and waste resources supporting them. They are in business to take joe publics' money to make profit for their shareholders - end of story.
You get the same sob stories from owners of Dell, Samsung, Sony, HTC, Nokia - oh they made me buy this phone that does everything they said it would but now they won't give me any upgrades for free, so now if I want a faster bigger/smaller phone that can make the toast in the morning I have to buy a new one - moan moan.
Ok, Dell takes a phone from Android 1.6 to 2.2 (for AT&T users that would be baseband 353), they clearly publish the specifications (call T-mobile like I did before purchasing and ask them does this work on your 3g network, guess what? They will tell you no it doesn’t will only work on edge) and as long as you have an actual warranty repair they fix it. So how did they screw us?
Also did they get $576 per phone from you? They did from me, bought two of them, one me and one for the wife. We have zero complaints, she uses stock and I use DJ-Steve's custom ROMs. Quit your pissing and moaning and be happy that when you took it out of the box it worked, much better than a lot other things I have bought over my life time.
we have been promised so much by dells CTO and by the head of the linux team to help out with development for the device, lots of pretty talk about community taking over support for future builds etc etc.
all to nothing.
they have even removed the source code for the alpha build for gingerbread from opensource.dell.com
EEJITS
@Fards, ok you got me there, thought the wall was starting to come down, but I guess not. Actually gives them black eye as you, Steve and host of others saved the Streak. You would have figured for all the goodness you have done, they would have wanted to keep you guys happy. Well there is always the Samsung Galaxy S II, know Steve doesn’t like Samsung, but at least it is better than anything apple makes (lesser of two evils).
I guess you are partially right, but don't forget about stock rom full of uninstalable bloatware and extra-slow Dell Stage UI.
We are not asking for another update of stock rom, we are just asking for drivers. But from what I heard, they already released some drivers for Streak: http://opensource.dell.com/releases/streak/
But drivers for audio is missing and Dell is saying they can't release it because they are not owners of the drivers (but then who is?).
Edit: and I want to point out another thing - I guess it will be ok if we can buy updates for our device. For example, if HC 3.2 will have support for tablets with smaller screens (and it should have), I perfectly ok with paying for this update. I understand, that implementing of new update is not easy and for me, it will be still cheaper than buying new device (not to mention there is not another device like Dell Streak).
I doubt there will be any updates since Streak 5 and 7 are getting build anymore and there are no planed successors for Streak 5 and 7 at the moment. Streak Pro will be launched in the US only sometime later this year.
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Once again let's not forget all the issues related to the screen.Gorilla screen sounds pretty damn good,but what about what is underneath?.
I wish they'd at least release drivers so our amazing devs can continue to improve upon this great piece of hardware.. With that said, I really doubt we will see anymore support from Dell, they've seemed to pretty much moved on from the Streak 5
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I doubt there will be any updates since Streak 5 and 7 are getting build anymore and there are no planed successors for Streak 5 and 7 at the moment. Streak Pro will be launched in the US only sometime later this year.
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btw.. it won't be called "Streak" or be part of the Streak family.
I don't understand what you guys are expecting...
HTC and Motorola just make mobile devices and accessories. They must be more open and provide bleeding edge just to stay in business.
Dell, HP, Sony, etc.... Have hundreds of other products that they make as part of their business model. They don't need mobility to survive.
releasing a device with 1.6... 2.0...2.1...2.2...2.2.2.. seems like alot of updates to me.especially since it wasn't shipped crippled in anyway like samsung.
Dell does just fine and if you want 3g on tmobile look for an aws one I own 3 they are not that hard to find haha
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I don't understand what you guys are expecting...
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It's been said that the best complaint letters are ones that clearly spell out what the writer wants the company to do for them to fix the problem. The OP hasn't provided a very good complaint letter, just a brief rant. But this is to be expected when people have unrealistic expectations.
The OP's comments can be broken down into the following three things:
1. Openness
2. Firmware support
3. A request to not abandon Streak users.
I haven't posted to this thread until now, despite wanting to reply to the OP earlier. However I think the expectations of the OP are unrealistic. The harsh reality is that the Streak's time in the sun has passed and it's rapidly heading towards sunset. If I were in Dell's shoes, none of this would deserve more than a cursory response, mostly because of the points you have already made, especially in regards to firmware support. The other two things? Well the first is so nebulous as to be unanswerable, and the second would be given a boilerplate response regarding where to find information on the Streak.
While I would love to see Honeycomb, or even better, Ice Cream Sandwich on a Streak 5, if I don't get it I'm not going to complain. I'm perfectly happy using 2.2.2.
Troute said:
Yeah right, also bankers should accept responsibility for screwing us over and politicians should all be honest!
Dell (and every other company, anywhere, ever) are not in business to create good products and waste resources supporting them. They are in business to take joe publics' money to make profit for their shareholders - end of story.
You get the same sob stories from owners of Dell, Samsung, Sony, HTC, Nokia - oh they made me buy this phone that does everything they said it would but now they won't give me any upgrades for free, so now if I want a faster bigger/smaller phone that can make the toast in the morning I have to buy a new one - moan moan.
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Sooo we should all buy iPhones because they are not like the bankers and every other company. Your right they are one of the only companies to support their legacy products. This is why I dont have a problem supporting them and there prices. I know im buying a product i can own for years and sell it later knowing updates and value will be there. The way companies operate now need to take note on how apple supports its devices. I love my streak, I also love my Apple iPhone 4.
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btw.. it won't be called "Streak" or be part of the Streak family.
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Yes it will! Streak Pro.
We will also see a Latitude tablet sometime later this year.
megapimp said:
Sooo we should all buy iPhones because they are not like the bankers and every other company. Your right they are one of the only companies to support their legacy products. This is why I dont have a problem supporting them and there prices. I know im buying a product i can own for years and sell it later knowing updates and value will be there. The way companies operate now need to take note on how apple supports its devices. I love my streak, I also love my Apple iPhone 4.
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I never mentioned the iWord, Apple are no better at looking after their customers than anyone else.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
It's been said that the best complaint letters are ones that clearly spell out what the writer wants the company to do for them to fix the problem. The OP hasn't provided a very good complaint letter, just a brief rant. But this is to be expected when people have unrealistic expectations.
The OP's comments can be broken down into the following three things:
1. Openness
2. Firmware support
3. A request to not abandon Streak users.
I haven't posted to this thread until now, despite wanting to reply to the OP earlier. However I think the expectations of the OP are unrealistic. The harsh reality is that the Streak's time in the sun has passed and it's rapidly heading towards sunset. If I were in Dell's shoes, none of this would deserve more than a cursory response, mostly because of the points you have already made, especially in regards to firmware support. The other two things? Well the first is so nebulous as to be unanswerable, and the second would be given a boilerplate response regarding where to find information on the Streak.
While I would love to see Honeycomb, or even better, Ice Cream Sandwich on a Streak 5, if I don't get it I'm not going to complain. I'm perfectly happy using 2.2.2.
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I totally agree the streak works amazingly well as it is, what exactly does gingerbread, honeycomb bring to the streak that you can't already do in froyo? I would prefer dell concentrate on new devices that I can buy when I've had my streak for a year, and I ready for a new 5 inch device.
Samsung has stated the possibility of an official update to the Android operating system version 2.3, which is intended for all of the issued units range Galaxy. The new OS has a more refined user interface has been improved as well by copying and pasting text. In addition there is support for video on the Internet - resources (WebM/VP8) and full support for VoIP calls using the built-in front camera. However, the emphasis on developers are increasing the performance of their devices at the same time, the new version of the operating system has increased the battery life of smartphones by optimizing the energy consumption. All of the devices in this family can be updated automatically by means of an instrument Kies, which is a formal program for flashing devices. The latest version of the operating system can also be downloaded from the official website of the company. updates, in particular, the following models are available: Galaxy S (I9000), Galaxy Ace (S5830), Galaxy Fit (S5670), Galaxy Gio (S5660) and Galaxy Mini (S5570) . Just now getting ready for the new firmware Galaxy S scLCD (I9003), Galaxy Tab 3G (P1000) and Galaxy Tab Wi-Fi (P1010), which will appear later.
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You are Right, ilievski.ace, full agreement!
But that's the normal behavior since creation of economy. Specially since the invention of the "game" of developing HARDWARE & SOFTWARE
They are not interested, that we use our cheap phones forever. They want you to buy a new one.
That's quiet easy and logical.
Our G3 is not a high end phone and unfortunately the development of software seems to be too expensive for them. So they concentrate on their new devices.
That's sad, but not the customer is their interest but the profit in the end.
I really hate to explain any customers, that they should buy a hole new computer after 3 or 4 years, because it's cheaper for them, than the costs of changing the motherboard and recreate the OS with the new Hardware for example... ;(
Siple answer for samsung reply is that they will not take care of g3. It's not so popular as other models so they leave it for good...
Shame.
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samsung must sold new models, who cares for the old one
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Of course it's not right. I don't care about Samsung's reasons. SG3 is not an old legacy handset, it is about a year old device! There is no reason to abandon it, and contrary to many people's beliefs, it's quite popular because it's relatively cheap for an Android phone so many people have it and use it - Samsung sees this as another opportunity to sell even more handsets to even more people because it will deny many people simple software upgrades. Samsung is acting like Apple and it's a bad behavior, I and many other people will never buy another product - at least a phone - from Samsung. I recommend everyone to pass SG3 and to boycott Samsung in any way they can because Samsung deserves it. Many other manufactures act similarly, but not to this extent and they do release unofficial hacks and they "borrow" their devs to the community to hack some updates even if they refuse to do it publicly. SE X10, the device released in the beginning of 2009 with android 1.5 got it's 2.3.4 update recently! How can Sony-Ericsson do that for practically dead phone? How is that suddenly "Rational" to SE?
Samsuck can screw themselves with their piss poor overpriced hardware, if I wanted to be treated like this I would have bought Apple iPhone 3GS and I would at least have a decent piece of hardware.
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You are right.They just whant money money and again money..
They said that they will update our phone to 2.2 but in my country there is none update and my country isnt listed!!!!?
My point i think that they will never update our phone to 2.3 whic is sad (((
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It's all about money
"KOLKU PARI TOLKU MUZIKA" MEANS HOW MUCH MONEY THAT MUCH MUSIC
Samsung sucks, they look good on paper but they just suck. The hardware of SG3 is badly done, drivers even worse, customer support is rubish, their firmwares are all buged and laggy and unreliable. If they upgraded the phone to 2.3 it would not make much difference i tell you, drivers are really bad. My next phone is going to be HTC i think
Right now I'm thinking in the same way as you. I will change samsung to sth different. Because what i have seen after i bought this phone is a drama... But hope that cm project will be still active because in some way i like this phone.
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yeah, CM7 is really great, since its built from AOSP, no samsung crap. Marcellusbe has my greatest thanks. CM7 a4 is the best ROM i've used, no lags/crap/fcs like in samsungs firmware. I just cant wait for it to get to beta or rc. I won't be buying a new phone for a while now, so the devs are my only hope. Developers>Samsung
Waited for more than 4 months for official update to 2.2 without flashing on my own, since it was promised by Samsung.
And when it arrived my country, what did I get? Crappy, bugged, laggy rom!!!
All this waiting for what?! Flashed straight away to a better firmware like JPM, which wasnt meant for my country. Then after, its all Custom ROMS. And by & far, they are much much much 100x better than what samsung released for public.
I have hope in our DEVs, and Im sure we will get 2.3...big thanks to the DEVs who keep alive our G3.
Reports are coming in that Apple has been granted a preliminary injunction for the entire European Union (excluding Netherlands) that will halt distribution of Samsung’s Galaxy Tab 10.1. This comes on the heels of a postponed launch of the device in Australia due to a lawsuit with Apple.
The decision by the Regional Court of Dusseldorf in Germany to block sales of the device comes after a judge sided with Apple on claims that Galaxy Tab infringed on patents related to the iPad 2. While Samsung can appeal the court’s decision sometime in the next month, the Telegraph’s Shane Richmond is quick to point out it would be heard by the same judge. Apple is also said to have a separate lawsuit filed in the Netherlands as well.
Samsung had this to say in a recent statement about their legal disputes with Apple:
“Samsung believes that there is no legal basis for this assertion. We will continue to serve our customers and distributors and the sale of Samsung products will be continued.”
And Apple has made their stance on the situation clear…
“It’s no coincidence that Samsung’s latest products look a lot like the iPhone and iPad, from the shape of the hardware to the user interface and even the packaging. This kind of blatant copying is wrong, and we need to protect Apple’s intellectual property when companies steal our ideas.”
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Source 9 to 5 mac
I admit i'm a transformer guy and an iPhone user but this really sucks ... come on apple how different can a tablet really be...
Here is a great article.... http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/08/preliminary-injunction-granted-by.html
I fell bad for the android fans in Europe, I have to say that the galaxy tab 10 is the best android tablet out there. I have owned and used them all.
Yah, I have a GT 10.1 and and iPhone 4, and there's really not much different about any of the tablets. There all a flat sheet of glass....
Guess they'll have to make due with this instead:
http://www.samsung.com/us/simulators/galaxytab101emulator/
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Guess they'll have to make due with this instead:
http://www.samsung.com/us/simulators/galaxytab101emulator/
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That isn't such a bad thing, since the emulator runs faster than the real thing
Wow this is crazy....i don't know how the galaxy tab 10.1 is similar to ipad2?
Atleast with the phone there is some argument with touchwiz looking similar to iphone with home button. But with the tab 10.1? Seriously Apple cmon let consumers have choice to buy what they want. Eventually the better product will win, not by blocking compitetor product sales.
Maybe Apple is worried about a better product...
No difference at all
Only a different screen size, aspect ratio, OS, camera orientation, speaker design, double the RAM...
My country makes me sad!
Looks a lot like apple products... how many ways can you design a flat device be it a phone or a tab? then they say the user interface looks a lot like apple iOS when it couldnt be more different! in fact its 100 times better and thats what has got apple messing themselves.
not a peep out of apple for yrs until android, samsung and htc have come along and started to kick their ass
They should have skipped Touchwizz, it makes the tablet look like an Ipad.
Oh, all ports are an EXACT copy of Apple products.
No SD-Card, same plug + adapters, same price etc. makes it look and feel Ipad like, not Android like !
The really wanted to beat Apple and took over to much.
I guess the 10.1 is dead now. Propably they will hurry to release a Tegra3 Tab.
I am really pissed...
http://winfuture.de/news,64823.html
I ordered my GT10.1 yesterday from Germany and it shipped today (at least i hope it did).
Of all Sammy products, the GT10.1 seems the least like an apple product, in specs, hardware and software, especially compared to earlier phones.
Yet Apple is after the GT10.1 probably cause they know they've lost dominance in the cell phone market to android phones, and very much fear the same will happen in the tablet market,especially since GT10.1 is the most credible (if not better at least hardware wise) competition.
Apples is a smart innovative company, but I felt from my iPod touch days that I couldn't live with their suffocating and closed (my-way-or-no-way) approach to using their products.
Now, it seems like apple is taking their domineering ways one notch further and just trying to suffocate any competition.
I hope Apple keeps making good products but I hope they don't succeed in killing alternatives. Just leave the choice to us customers.
Well, this is unique. The EU has been quick to block, ban, stop or otherwise harrass American companies just because they're American companies. Even when there's no legal reason or precidence to do so.
Part of me wishes Apple well just for that reason. Alas, the logical part of me wishes justice be served.
Isn't it ironic that a decade ago that Microsoft was the evil empire and Apple was the underdog. Now Apple has become the evil empire and scarier than Microsoft ever was.
One thing is for sure, if Apple stops me of using a product I like, then Apple is more than a just a bad product ... This is such bad advertisement ...
I say, Samsung use this! Great opportunity.
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They should have skipped Touchwizz, it makes the tablet look like an Ipad.
Oh, all ports are an EXACT copy of Apple products.
No SD-Card, same plug + adapters, same price etc. makes it look and feel Ipad like, not Android like !
The really wanted to beat Apple and took over to much.
I guess the 10.1 is dead now. Propably they will hurry to release a Tegra3 Tab.
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May be you should troll somewhere else. Also, when you haven't compared 2 side by side, then don't even post anything in regards to Gtab.
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its reasons like this i sold my ipad, and iphone;
bought a HTC Desire HD, and a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1
will never buy another apple product again.
Apple is suing HTC, too. And at this point, theyre winning. I mean, how different can a tablet be??!!! What, apple wants everyone else to make round products that only have a black 'speak-only' screen????
Wtf apple!!??? God, i HATE apple!
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Time to hit the drawing boards. The gtab is dead. Well this should allow Samsung to come out with something more defined and truly a work of art.
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Irritated to learn about the launch of the 10.1 version of the Galaxy Tab 2.
Can't we users and developers urge Samsung to release the official ICS update for our GT 10.1 instead of launching product after product with very little differences? I don't feel like buying Samsung products anymore.
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While I somewhat agree with you I think it would be a rep shame if you stooped owning their products due to the fact they are releasing alot of great, but albeit similar, products. Besides who'd want an official release when there's cyanogen. All I want off Sammy are the damn camera drivers.
Hopefully ppl will vote with their wallets but feels like Samsung are doing an Apple
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Samsung said it would release during Q1, why are people getting mad/frustrated that its not out when Q1 is not over yet? I understand if it was Q3 and still nothing!
Doomweaver said:
All I want off Sammy are the damn camera drivers.
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Yes! That would make me choose cm9 rather than wait for an official update.
Will we get them with the new tabs? They could be ported to our devices then.
nakedninja42 said:
Samsung said it would release during Q1, why are people getting mad/frustrated that its not out when Q1 is not over yet? I understand if it was Q3 and still nothing!
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Might be so because ASUS seems to be doing a good job by providing regular updates. At least more than Samsung.
anirudh24seven said:
Irritated to learn about the launch of the 10.1 version of the Galaxy Tab 2.
Can't we users and developers urge Samsung to release the official ICS update for our GT 10.1 instead of launching product after product with very little differences? I don't feel like buying Samsung products anymore.
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I dunno -- the Note 10.1 actually seems like a great idea to me! I love my 5.whatever" Note phone/tablet. That being said, I might prefer a 8.9" version (any smaller and it's no fun reading comics on it and for me 10.1 is a little largish for book-reading).
PS: Yeah, they should release an ICS update for the existing devices too.
Yeah! How dare they announce a new product! I can't believe the gall of these companies--what do they think we are? Consumers? Bah, I think that a company should be limited to releasing one product a year, and whenever they release a better product ours should be upgraded.
And you know why I'm so angry? It's because I have no idea that there's real things in the world to be angry about! I never watch the news or read a paper, or really anything other than forums and blogs! Because I pay no attention to the real world, I think that the worst thing in the world is when a multinational electronics corporation releases a new product! Don't they realize the harm they cause by designing and selling new products? Do they not see that when I buy a product, I expect that it will be the best thing available (or just announced...) for at least a decade? Oh man, I just can't understand what they're thinking. In a world like ours of total customer loyalty to brand names--In the quickly shifting category of consumer electronics--I am shocked they didn't at least send us a survey.
slack04 said:
Yeah! How dare they announce a new product! I can't believe the gall of these companies--what do they think we are? Consumers? Bah, I think that a company should be limited to releasing one product a year, and whenever they release a better product ours should be upgraded.
And you know why I'm so angry? It's because I have no idea that there's real things in the world to be angry about! I never watch the news or read a paper, or really anything other than forums and blogs! Because I pay no attention to the real world, I think that the worst thing in the world is when a multinational electronics corporation releases a new product! Don't they realize the harm they cause by designing and selling new products? Do they not see that when I buy a product, I expect that it will be the best thing available (or just announced...) for at least a decade? Oh man, I just can't understand what they're thinking. In a world like ours of total customer loyalty to brand names--In the quickly shifting category of consumer electronics--I am shocked they didn't at least send us a survey.
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Ouch! I just got flamed.
I have to admit it when someone makes more sense than I do.
Thing is, there is almost no reason for them to make ICS for the original 10.1 It just costs them money to make a few of their more techie customers happy. Time and time again companies have made it clear they could care less that a few people won't buy their products because they won't update software promptly.
The 10.1.5 with ICS makes sense. They barely had to do any engineering on the hardware so it was cheap, and they need ICS to attract customers to buy it. ICS now becomes profitable for them. Companies (aside from charities) exist for one reason, profit. As long as they are making that profit, they can care less what you as a customer think of them. Luckily we have a little control in what we do or don't buy which helps make companies care, but it is all for naught if they are still raking in billions each quarter. It sucks, but at the very least we have CM9
For all I care they can release 100 new Tablets this year because I will buy the one I want and won't care about the rest..
Choice is good...
x-ravin said:
Thing is, there is almost no reason for them to make ICS for the original 10.1 It just costs them money to make a few of their more techie customers happy. Time and time again companies have made it clear they could care less that a few people won't buy their products because they won't update software promptly.
The 10.1.5 with ICS makes sense. They barely had to do any engineering on the hardware so it was cheap, and they need ICS to attract customers to buy it. ICS now becomes profitable for them. Companies (aside from charities) exist for one reason, profit. As long as they are making that profit, they can care less what you as a customer think of them. Luckily we have a little control in what we do or don't buy which helps make companies care, but it is all for naught if they are still raking in billions each quarter. It sucks, but at the very least we have CM9
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Same thing was said with the galaxy s from 2.1 to 2.2, 2.2 to 2.3, just relax and wait for it.
10.1 and 8.9 will get the ICS, why would samsung leave is first real tablet with 6/7 months old without this major update?
I just read in another post that Samsung has to support devices for 18 months per some google agreement. So we would definitely see ICS, but who knows when?
Not info from me, just what I just read in another post.
If you can read this it was sent using my GT-P7510.
I think the figure was that 1% (not those guys) are running ICS, with so little usage it will take awhile for more quality development.
And more bugs to get worked out.... The CM stolen roms will work until then.
Also I thought dude worked for Samsung now... Perhaps he can make friends in the camera.apk department... Maybe an email like hey... you know, how about a little something for the effort.
I joke, I joke.....
Benzoman said:
I just read in another post that Samsung has to support devices for 18 months per some google agreement. So we would definitely see ICS, but who knows when?
Not info from me, just what I just read in another post.
If you can read this it was sent using my GT-P7510.
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Yup. That was announced originally at Google I/O spring 2011. That means we would qualify for the Android 5 update when that gets announced later during Q3 or late fall.
slack04 said:
And you know why I'm so angry? It's because I have no idea that there's real things in the world to be angry about! I never watch the news or read a paper, or really anything other than forums and blogs! Because I pay no attention to the real world, I think that the worst thing in the world is when a multinational electronics corporation releases a new product! Don't they realize the harm they cause by designing and selling new products? Do they not see that when I buy a product, I expect that it will be the best thing available (or just announced...) for at least a decade? Oh man, I just can't understand what they're thinking. In a world like ours of total customer loyalty to brand names--In the quickly shifting category of consumer electronics--I am shocked they didn't at least send us a survey.
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Actually customer loyalty is very low, especially with electronics, with the exception being apple, but even then its not as high as you might think. Also it would be impossible for the product to be "the best thing available for at least a decade" ... not only is computing exponential, the rate of exponential growth is itself speeding up.
Computing power doubled every 18 months in 1950, today it doubles every 11 months. That being said they could definitely make their products more upgradable, and in a sense you can do it yourself (rooting, overclocking, new ROMs) and above all they don't care as long as they are making their share holders happy.
Someone mentioned Apple earlier and say about Samsung, that choice is good. While Samsung do make great products,including much of the iPhone, I do believe Samsung could learn a lot from Apples product strategy.
The raft of new devices, like Galaxy Tab 10.1 2 which apparently isn't the real successor, only a sideways step, is an example of the lack of clarity and focus from Samsung. Then there the Galaxy Tab 7.0 plus followed by the Galaxy Tab 2. Which one follows from the original tab? Then there's rumours of the Note 10.1?
There is way too much product overlap and seemingly little focus. And with Galaxy minis and young's and aces, even the phone market seems confusing. At least we know the S is the pinnacle and the S3 won't be an S2 with ice cream sandwich and the real successor being something like a Samsung Galaxy Young Ultimate HD 4.8.
Put it like this, you want an iphone or an I pad, you get one. Like it or not, its a strong brand.
At first I thought the whole apple fanboy rage is what caused apple to release iPad2 then iPad3 in less than a year. I used to be an iOS owner, and was pretty proud of it without falling into the apple sheep or the cult that worships the half bitten apple. I had the initial 2G for both the iPhone and the iPod only to see what I was missing out, shortly then came the release for the 3G which was quickly discarded in about 4-5 months with the launch of the 3GS and the trend followed. I used to be so ENRAGED about how I as a consumer had to keep myself constantly in the mix of what was being released and If I wanted to get it with the same idea that
"This **** will last me for about a year, I mean hey ,I used my nokia for 2-3 years"
and then BOOM, the bloody mass corporates state "I am sad to say we are cutting off all support for previous Apple devices below the 3G series" that **** move made me swap to the green little buddy whom I feel I have spent my money's worth. I mean for the love of God, Apple, It's the same interface for like 4, no, 5 generations now! NOTHING in their interface has changed, just the price and look+feel.
Just when I thought that headache was over, I moved to Samsung which had the sexiest designs out of all the smartphones in the market. Purchased my first Galaxy S and Galaxy Tab 7 (Edition 1) and was proud, then development ceased for both due to developers being demanded in the latest S2 and Asus Transformer and I agreed one can't be stuck on one device permanently and so I hoped that the incoming ICS would give me some hope, then Samsung pulled another **** move and said "These following devices will not be getting ICS and Gingerbread 2.3.7 will be the last firmware" and hillariously, mines fell into that son of a gun list, and so I bought the HTC Evo 3D, same story with the development. And so I decided to play cat and mouse, grab the next "Hot item" that hit the shelves, and that was the Galaxy Tab 10.1 only to my dismay it's been less than what? 1-2months and I feel they are about to cease all support for this. Even worse? I have both the 10.1v and non V editions. **** just got real.
I am not angry, I an ENRAGED, If samsung decides to pull a Nokia stunt that releases a new bloody device EVERY SINGLE MONTH, Then fu** Samsung and the minds behind their marketing strategy. I will personally walk upto their sales rep and smash my Galaxy Tab on their faces, probably quote "NOPE SEEMS FACEUNLOCK DIDNT WORK, OH WELL"
I agree 100%..
Even Samsung admitted they are really failing in the tablet dept..
glassjosh said:
Even Samsung admitted they are really failing in the tablet dept..
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Soon it won't be just the tablet's but they would be failing their consumers hard. When you are forced to spend over $1000 or more in less than a month for a device that doesn't last in the market for 2-3 months? Ridiculous!!