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Anyone who just recently purchased this device debating a return following this news?
http://www.androidcentral.com/nvidia-kal-el-quad-core-tablets-coming-fall-phones-early-2012
Just looking for what people's take is on this. I tend to debate my buying decisions until I can't return the device haha.
BlueGoldAce said:
Anyone who just recently purchased this device debating a return following this news?
http://www.androidcentral.com/nvidia-kal-el-quad-core-tablets-coming-fall-phones-early-2012
Just looking for what people's take is on this. I tend to debate my buying decisions until I can't return the device haha.
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I too read and saw all those kal-el quad core, and was quite excited. But again, the technology changes the moment something new comes in the market.
On side note, I got $100 price match @ BB for 32gb + $60 reward certificate. So no buyers remorse here.
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Nope. There is always something better on the horizon. I'll enjoy my time with the Tab for now, and buy a newer/better one when the time comes.
Zargon335 said:
Nope. There is always something better on the horizon. I'll enjoy my time with the Tab for now, and buy a newer/better one when the time comes.
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Agreed......
Zargon335 said:
Nope. There is always something better on the horizon. I'll enjoy my time with the Tab for now, and buy a newer/better one when the time comes.
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Incorrect. Someone who is on a budget would be foolish to purchase a tegra 2 tablet today as once tegra 3 is released VERY soon they will lose half the value of the tablet before they even have begun to finish learning how to use it.
You are incorrect because even thought there is always something better on the horizon, tegra 3 is coming out NOW so there is no point in wasting money on current tegra 2 units. Very bad form....
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Incorrect. Someone who is on a budget would be foolish to purchase a tegra 2 tablet today as once tegra 3 is released VERY soon they will lose half the value of the tablet before they even have begun to finish learning how to use it.
You are incorrect because even thought there is always something better on the horizon, tegra 3 is coming out NOW so there is no point in wasting money on current tegra 2 units. Very bad form....
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Name one device that will be on store shelves within 30 days that is based on Tegra 3. (If you can't, then it is YOU who are incorrect in saying that "tegra 3 is coming out NOW".)
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Nope. There is always something better on the horizon. I'll enjoy my time with the Tab for now, and buy a newer/better one when the time comes.
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same here. only thing is that i don't see a real use for quad core yet as nothing has taxed 2 cores yet - other than benchmarks and having to software decode some videos. where are the apps that will need this kind of power?
5thElement said:
Incorrect. Someone who is on a budget would be foolish to purchase a tegra 2 tablet today as once tegra 3 is released VERY soon they will lose half the value of the tablet before they even have begun to finish learning how to use it.
You are incorrect because even thought there is always something better on the horizon, tegra 3 is coming out NOW so there is no point in wasting money on current tegra 2 units. Very bad form....
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Every one of your posts are negative. If tegra 3 takes as long as tegra 2 took to come out, we are looking at a possible release of maybe late next year. I doubt NVIDIA would be dumb enough to release it now when their tegra 2 chips are selling like mad.
Tegra 3 may be coming but since not one device has been announced or even leaked I'll bet it's at least another three month till we see a new tegra 3 tablet. I wouldn't hold my breath, it's maybe even more realistic that the device makers wait for the Christmas sale.
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Every one of your posts are negative. If tegra 3 takes as long as tegra 2 took to come out, we are looking at a possible release of maybe late next year. I doubt NVIDIA would be dumb enough to release it now when their tegra 2 chips are selling like mad.
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Whaaaa??? Tegra 2 has been out for over a year now. Yes over a YEAR. It was googles fault for not finishing honeycomb in a timely manner.
Most Mfrs have STOPPED production of tegra 2 units, xoom production for example has ended over a month ago.
Tegra 3 is here, its READY, and Mfr are producing stock of tegra 3 tablets right NOW.
Tegra 3 tablets will be here to purchase in September. Unless you have money to burn it would be very foolish to buy tegra 2 unit now.
Tegra 3 tablets will be here to purchase in September. Unless you have money to burn it would be very foolish to buy tegra 2 unit now.
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I just wish we had solid proof/confirmation that the Kal-El Tabs will be available to consumers as early as that, there's just so much speculation.
I'm very close to ordering a 32 Gig Tab 10.1 after waiting ... and waiting .... for it to be released over here. I'm now fed up with waiting but I'd be very pissed if I were to shell out almost £500 only to find that the Quad core version was to be launched a few weeks later.
Its like buying a new car and loosing thousands just by driving it off the lot.
You sit there and wait for the next best thing....you will be waiting a long time!!
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Its like buying a new car and loosing thousands just by driving it off the lot.
You sit there and wait for the next best thing....you will be waiting a long time!!
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Again you are simply wrong. You're not going to have to wait long because tegra 3 tablets are being released in September. They are being Mfred right now and its a MASSIVE upgrade from tegra 2 which is over a year old now.
You cant win this debate with "You sit there and wait for the next best thing....you will be waiting a long time!!" because it is simply not true in this case.
I dont understand how others dont understand this....
As far as I know the only quad-core mobile device that will be available to consumers this fall/winter is the PS Vita. If quad-core tablets are arriving this fall you'd think we would have seen announcements, leaks or previews by now yeah?
Either way, I purchased my tab fully aware that quad-core devices would be likely be arriving within 6 to 8 months. I don't regret the purchase as I've been happy with the performance of the tab and I make use of it every day. As of right now I expect to keep the device until software is released that the tab isn't powerful enough to run.
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As far as I know the only quad-core mobile device that will be available to consumers this fall/winter is the PS Vita. If quad-core tablets are arriving this fall you'd think we would have seen announcements, leaks or previews by now yeah?
Either way, I purchased my tab fully aware that quad-core devices would be likely be arriving within 6 to 8 months. I don't regret the purchase as I've been happy with the performance of the tab and I make use of it every day. As of right now I expect to keep the device until software is released that the tab isn't powerful enough to run.
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At this point Mfrs are keeping a VERY hush hush attitude about the new Tegra 3 unit they are producing right now. Why? Because they dont want tegra 2 sales to suffer. They know tegra 2 is OLD despite what consumers think and releasing information about such a massive upgrade to Tegra 3 would only hinder old tegra 2 unit sales.
I can tell you for sure Tegra 3 units from ALL mfrs are being kept HIGHLY secretive until launch date. The only way we will get any info about them is when they hit the FCC. After they hit the FCC they are usually out on the floor for sale the following week.
You have to understand that my knowledge flows far beyond computers, and tablets all the way to economics which is why its easy for me to understand what is going on.
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Incorrect. Someone who is on a budget would be foolish to purchase a tegra 2 tablet today as once tegra 3 is released VERY soon they will lose half the value of the tablet before they even have begun to finish learning how to use it.
You are incorrect because even thought there is always something better on the horizon, tegra 3 is coming out NOW so there is no point in wasting money on current tegra 2 units. Very bad form....
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So you agree with me?
Also, where are all the Tegra 3 devices that are out now?
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So you agree with me?
Also, where all the Tegra 3 devices that are out now?
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Yes I do agree, but it is not relevant in this case since tegra 3 is so ridiculously close that it would be foolish to buy tegra 2 now unless you have money to literally throw out the window.
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Yes I do agree, but it is not relevant in this case since tegra 3 is so ridiculously close that it would be foolish to buy tegra 2 now unless you have money to literally throw out the window.
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Any further insight on the Tegra 3 devices you stated are out now? Or was that just BS as well?
It's amazing, if you look around these forums long enough you start to realize that 5thElement's only role is to troll the hell out of everyone. Every other thread he contradicts himself, sometimes saying the exact opposite of what he's posted before.
It's really sad that people who might be new to XDA or a new Tab owner will be misled by this character, probably because this person is extremely bored and screwing around with others is their hobby.
No wonder people have sworn off XDA.
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It's amazing, if you look around these forums long enough you start to realize that 5thElement's only role is to troll the hell out of everyone. Every other thread he contradicts himself, sometimes saying the exact opposite of what he's posted before.
It's really sad that people who might be new to XDA or a new Tab owner will be misled by this character, probably because this person is extremely bored and screwing around with others is their hobby.
No wonder people have sworn off XDA.
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Haha i havent been on these forums long, but its common knowledge that 5thElement hasno idea what hes talking about. Its funny really. I just sit back and laugh
Btw posting this from my outdated tab 10.1 lol
I am wondering if hardware companies will have less incentive of making 10" Android tablets now that Google is making their own? Does that mean we won't see an Asus Transformer v4 in the future, for example?
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I am wondering if hardware companies will have less incentive of making 10" Android tablets now that Google is making their own? Does that mean we won't see an Asus Transformer v4 in the future, for example?
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Arent there already 4 models of the Transformer out now?
If anything Id expect 3rd party people to step up their game and not make anymore ****ty spec'ed tablets. Its time to move to the newest hardware.
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Arent there already 4 models of the Transformer out now?
If anything Id expect 3rd party people to step up their game and not make anymore ****ty spec'ed tablets. Its time to move to the newest hardware.
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Yeah I agree, we may not see alot of tablets comign out with the screen res that the n10 has i'd expect alot of tablet with the 1920x1080 screen in the transformer infinity. I think most makers will wait for the tegra 4 processor to come out before we see anything substantial being released, I'd say the N10 will be the master of the domain for at least 6 months.
well i beleive we will see new processors ,the tegra 3 is obvious a medium choice for tablets cpu.
i believe we will see tablets with s4 pro ,exynos cpu and 2gb ram as untill now 1 gb is standard ,for resolution i believe may devs will own a nexus 10 so many apps will go up to nexus 10 resolution in the near future and so new tablets will have the same as nexus 10.
the only thing that i find a little disturbing on nexus is the missing sd slot so new tabs may have a future over nexus 10 ...
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I am wondering if hardware companies will have less incentive of making 10" Android tablets now that Google is making their own? Does that mean we won't see an Asus Transformer v4 in the future, for example?
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This will definitely put some serious price pressure on the 10-inchers. It's pretty well known that the BOM on the Samsung Note 10.1 is $260, and they have been selling it for $200 over cost. So now the N10 comes out, and the 16gb model has to be sold pretty near cost -- you can compare features and prices with the iPad BOM, and the total has to be pretty close to the msrp. My point is that, as with the N7, Google is shaving margins pretty thin, and competitors will have to follow suit -- even mighty Apple
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Yeah I agree, we may not see alot of tablets comign out with the screen res that the n10 has i'd expect alot of tablet with the 1920x1080 screen in the transformer infinity. I think most makers will wait for the tegra 4 processor to come out before we see anything substantial being released, I'd say the N10 will be the master of the domain for at least 6 months.
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It looks like March will be a big month for tablet fans. The Samsung Galaxy S4, with Exynos 5450, is expected. Surely it would be easier to drop that SoC on a tablet, N10-derived or not, as they already have the experience with the 5250, so I would expect tablets to arrive around the same time. T40 is scheduled for Q1 as well, so we may see some interesting head-to-head competition CES, in two months, will shed a lot of light on what to expect in Q1 2013.
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I am wondering if hardware companies will have less incentive of making 10" Android tablets now that Google is making their own? Does that mean we won't see an Asus Transformer v4 in the future, for example?
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Pretty sure the new Note tablet will be built on the experiences of the old and the Nexus 10.
A 12" 2600k tab with Exynos 5450, 8-core Mali T604 and S-Pen magic, if you can wait 6 months and get an additional $100, you'll be in for a treat. (the 10+" screen is wishful thinking, but isn't that the Samsung way? The next big thing).
Ehh, apple won't have to budge the slightest. Let's all be honest here, as much as we hate them, apple (sadly) appeals to a larger crowd. It has that name brand value. No matter what they put out there, lots of people will buy it.
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Apple will get a run for its money.
Way to go Google :good:
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Ehh, apple won't have to budge the slightest. Let's all be honest here, as much as we hate them, apple (sadly) appeals to a larger crowd. It has that name brand value. No matter what they put out there, lots of people will buy it.
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They will always have a large flock of sheep, but it won't be a larger crowd for long. There is going to be a lag between the growth of Android tablets shipped and the growth of quality apps -- as developers are drawn to the platform and have to train up -- but as Android users takes the biggest slice of the market, the maturity of both hardware and software development will improve.
Apple's problem is attracting new customers; they may be selling more tablets, but many are to existing users.
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Pretty sure the new Note tablet will be built on the experiences of the old and the Nexus 10.
A 12" 2600k tab with Exynos 5450, 8-core Mali T604 and S-Pen magic, if you can wait 6 months and get an additional $100, you'll be in for a treat. (the 10+" screen is wishful thinking, but isn't that the Samsung way? The next big thing).
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As much as I crave the N10, I feel I'll be happier in the long-term waiting for the next big thing. Besides, I think my budget Lenovo A2109 is a great tab. My guess is that it compares poorly even in performance, but I just bought it a couple months ago, so I can bask in the upgrade for a while longer .
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Ehh, apple won't have to budge the slightest. Let's all be honest here, as much as we hate them, apple (sadly) appeals to a larger crowd. It has that name brand value. No matter what they put out there, lots of people will buy it.
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So, going 16:9 on the iPhone isn't budging? The very existence of the iPad mini?
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Hey guys, just wondering if i should wait for the next generation of the Nexus 10 tablet or just buy this one. And any estimate on when the next one will be out? Because i can wait if necessary
There were rumors of the next gen, but then those rumors died down. I personally think the next gen wont be out till end of 2013
We know that the Nexus 7 is getting a new model this summer, no info yet as to the Nexus 10 but I doubt it will get an upgrade this quickly, the tablet only came out 5 months ago. I think the rumors were it would get an upgrade to the Exynos Octo processor, but those rumors were months ago and I doubt they had much truth to begin with. Either way it seems like if that ever was the plan, it isnt going to happen anymore
We may find out more info on the new N7 model, a possible N10 model, and probably the next Android version next month at Google IO
Alright thanks for the replies, so i have an oppertunity to buy a nexus 10 for $400 from a local guy, should i take it? How is the dual core processor compared to a quad? Thats one of the things i was concerned about, and how long do you think this nexus 10 will be good for? (Futureproof)
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Alright thanks for the replies, so i have an oppertunity to buy a nexus 10 for $400 from a local guy, should i take it? How is the dual core processor compared to a quad? Thats one of the things i was concerned about, and how long do you think this nexus 10 will be good for? (Futureproof)
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There are a lot of synthetic benchmarks around showing performance. The general consensus is that the processor is pretty darn good for the current gen. I'm sure there will be lots of releases in 2013 that will blow it out of the water. So future proof is a very hard thing to gauge. You might say that with the meteoric rise of ARM chips that you simply can't get a future proof mobile device at all.
In the real world I have found the power under the hood in the nexus to be great. I have no trouble watching full HD video and gaming is good too. Probably the final word on future proof from a mobile device is going Nexus. You wont spend ages sitting around waiting for OS updates and carrier updates and manufacturer updates.
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There are a lot of synthetic benchmarks around showing performance. The general consensus is that the processor is pretty darn good for the current gen. I'm sure there will be lots of releases in 2013 that will blow it out of the water. So future proof is a very hard thing to gauge. You might say that with the meteoric rise of ARM chips that you simply can't get a future proof mobile device at all.
In the real world I have found the power under the hood in the nexus to be great. I have no trouble watching full HD video and gaming is good too. Probably the final word on future proof from a mobile device is going Nexus. You wont spend ages sitting around waiting for OS updates and carrier updates and manufacturer updates.
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Alright and do you think its a good deal for $390? And hows battery life? Any roms to make the batter life better? Also if anyone knows, how much does it effect the electricity bill, probably less than a couple dollars a month right?
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Alright thanks for the replies, so i have an oppertunity to buy a nexus 10 for $400 from a local guy, should i take it? How is the dual core processor compared to a quad? Thats one of the things i was concerned about, and how long do you think this nexus 10 will be good for? (Futureproof)
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The amount of cores don't matter as much as the actual speed of those cores. When comparing the Exynos 5 Dual chip in the N10 against the Tegra 3 Quad-core chip in the N7, the Exynos 5 destroys it. The Exynos 5 is also a newer CPU architecture (A15) as well, and currently, there's either very few other devices, or none at all publicly available that have such a chip.
The N10 should go a good while (longer than the current N7 and N4) with how well it can run later Android versions, just due to the specs alone. Also this tablet was (may still be) the best device supported on AOSP (I think all hardware is open-source aside from 1 thing), which is nice for custom ROM's and Kernels.
Battery life is decent. It mainly depends on how you plan on using it though, but I didn't really have any complaints about mine.
So should i buy it for $390? And how can i get free books on it? Thanks a lot guys
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So should i buy it for $390? And how can i get free books on it? Thanks a lot guys
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If its in new condition I would buy it. I'm guessing its the 16gb version? Just make sure everything is working properly. It would also help if it came with a purchase receipt.
For books just download them in PDFs and transfer to your tab.
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http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/23/samsung-exynos-5-octa-5420-hands-on/
I saw some crazy article about the nexus 8, yes 8, and 10 being released on black Friday. Thoughts?
Kurupt22 said:
I saw some crazy article about the nexus 8, yes 8, and 10 being released on black Friday. Thoughts?
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Yea, got in before they lock this thread. :highfive:
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I saw some crazy article about the nexus 8, yes 8, and 10 being released on black Friday. Thoughts?
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Nexus 8? Pshaw. I'm waiting for the Nexus-6. I hear Tyrell is supporting them for four years instead of just 18 months.
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http://guardianlv.com/2013/11/google-nexus-rumors-include-the-release-of-the-8-and-10-tablets/
Doesn't make sense, the aforementioned article mentions the Nexus 8 to have an 8" display running 1920x1200 with 8GB memory, those specs just seem like scattered rumors pieced together.
Oh well, we shall see.
There will be no more NEXUS devices released this year. There is NO new Nexus 10 & the Nexus 8 is only a conceptual device that has been submitted to Google by two manufacturers, with a third supposedly also working on a conceptual device.
When any of those devices are anywhere near a release, you will see VERIFIABLE evidence. Like FCC filings that actually make sense, not just someone blankly stating their is some mystery FCC filing without giving any evidence. You will also see things like service manuals & warranty documentation leak out. This happens with every device Google, or any Android partner, has ever made. There is actual supporting evidence, just like the Nexus 4 & 5 & the 7 & the 7 2013. So far there has been nothing even close to legitimate pointing to any of these devices being anywhere near a release. Just rumor, speculation & a few FAKED screen grabs.
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There will be no more NEXUS devices released this year. There is NO new Nexus 10 & the Nexus 8 is only a conceptual device that has been submitted to Google by two manufacturers, with a third supposedly also working on a conceptual device.
When any of those devices are anywhere near a release, you will see VERIFIABLE evidence. Like FCC filings that actually make sense, not just someone blankly stating their is some mystery FCC filing without giving any evidence. You will also see things like service manuals & warranty documentation leak out. This happens with every device Google, or any Android partner, has ever made. There is actual supporting evidence, just like the Nexus 4 & 5 & the 7 & the 7 2013. So far there has been nothing even close to legitimate pointing to any of these devices being anywhere near a release. Just rumor, speculation & a few FAKED screen grabs.
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I would love to see a Nexus 8 device released, but I'm afraid you're right. If Google was going to release one, they would have to do it now in order to take advantage of holiday sales. There is no good evidence for one, at this point, and the door is pretty much closed for this season.
I went from an iPad Mini to a Nexus 7. I think 7" is a better size than 8".
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I went from an iPad Mini to a Nexus 7. I think 7" is a better size than 8".
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nexus 5 is out.
We already have nexus 7.
if Google releases nexus 6 next year.
What will be name of the next nexus phone?
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nexus 5 is out.
We already have nexus 7.
if Google releases nexus 6 next year.
What will be name of the next nexus phone?
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Unless the phone size increases a whole bunch, next year's phone will be Nexus 5 (2014). Just like this year's Nexus 7.
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There will be no more NEXUS devices released this year. There is NO new Nexus 10 & the Nexus 8 is only a conceptual device that has been submitted to Google by two manufacturers, with a third supposedly also working on a conceptual device.
When any of those devices are anywhere near a release, you will see VERIFIABLE evidence. Like FCC filings that actually make sense, not just someone blankly stating their is some mystery FCC filing without giving any evidence. You will also see things like service manuals & warranty documentation leak out. This happens with every device Google, or any Android partner, has ever made. There is actual supporting evidence, just like the Nexus 4 & 5 & the 7 & the 7 2013. So far there has been nothing even close to legitimate pointing to any of these devices being anywhere near a release. Just rumor, speculation & a few FAKED screen grabs.
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What do you think of the LG - v510 then? It isn't g pad lte since that exists already: v507L.
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Could just as easily be an LTE version for a different region, or even a carrier specific version. Again, no proof, just speculation & I seriously doubt even if it were a Nexus device that we'd see as thing this year.
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Yeah, I also think Google will lauch the N10 somtime later this month
For Christmas Holiday, you know.
But I also believe "7" is better than "8". While if you go for 10 or above, then iPad is a better choice.
For the cost I would not say the iPad is better then the nex 10.
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For the cost I would not say the iPad is better then the nex 10.
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Dude, I HATE apple, but I will tell you flat out, hands down, the iPad & even the new KF HDX, both blow the Nexus 10 away handily. I use the N7 2013 as my primary, but have sold the N10 for an HDX 8.9 just as a media consumption device.
Samsung's processor & GPU is just inferior to the SD800 & adreno 330 & struggles with many events on the N10.
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That's so obviously a fake render. No nexus cutout on the back? An Android 4.3 logo printed on it?
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Dude, I HATE apple, but I will tell you flat out, hands down, the iPad & even the new KF HDX, both blow the Nexus 10 away handily. I use the N7 2013 as my primary, but have sold the N10 for an HDX 8.9 just as a media consumption device.
Samsung's processor & GPU is just inferior to the SD800 & adreno 330 & struggles with many events on the N10.
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Wow, I just looked up the specs on that KF, what a beast!
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Dude, I HATE apple, but I will tell you flat out, hands down, the iPad & even the new KF HDX, both blow the Nexus 10 away handily. I use the N7 2013 as my primary, but have sold the N10 for an HDX 8.9 just as a media consumption device.
Samsung's processor & GPU is just inferior to the SD800 & adreno 330 & struggles with many events on the N10.
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I said "for the cost". The Ipad has drawbacks as well considering it does not use Android. I guess it just depends on the user as well. I know many people that have the Nex 10 and have never mentioned any "struggling" issues but again it depends on the user and the cost. While the Ipad may perform better and have a better display you will pay steeply for it. For me the extra cost just is not worth it plus I really can never go back to a system like that. I would honestly rather have a customizable system like Android with a little bit lesser performance, lower cost than have an expensive, fast device that I cannot really customize.
Just my opinion though bro.
For the cost, yep. The KF HDX is cheaper than the N10 was when I looked at the Play Store last week. As for performance issues, just check out Google's product & bug forum, or even the threads here. Horrible touch screen issues for many.
I use a N7 for most things & found myself using the 10" tabs for media consumption. I've had or have nearly every decent 8" to 10.1" tablet made in the last few years & the HDX is by far the best performing tablet I've used. Once gapps are possible, well my large tab search for near perfection is over for a while. Telling you, the SD 800 & Adreno 330 combo is amazing.
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I really doubt it.
Nexus phones are usually 2 years apart. Maybe the nexus 5 got released a bit before the 2 year mark.
Tablets are usually staggered 1 year apart. Nexus 7 - Nexus 10 - Nexus 7 2013 and next is the Nexus 10 2014 edition.
I just wish there would be more apps that would more geared toward tablets and there would be more productivity involved. For example the stock calendar is absolutely horrible and there is nothing that really fits tablet and my fancy on google play.
I can't wait to see full support for 64 bit processors.. I feel the Nexus 9 should perform better.. Something tells me the OS and apps are not fully 64bit compliant yet. Any thoughts..? How has performance been for the rest of you guys/gals..?
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I can't wait to see full support for 64 bit processors.. I feel the Nexus 9 should perform better.. Something tells me the OS and apps are not fully 64bit compliant yet. Any thoughts..? How has performance been for the rest of you guys/gals..?
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This is one of the main reasons why I am returning mine, what's the point? It'll be quite some time before we see full support for 64 bit processors. We're paying this high of a price NOW for a tablet that the OS isn't even optimized for. That's the difference between apple and google, iOS is built around the hardware and for a limited amount of products; whereas android is built for a large variety of devices so it never really can be optimized for a specific tablet or phone because it has to cater to so many different devices with different specs.
Android should be flawless on a nexus device, after all a nexus device is supposed to set the tone and be an example of what android is.....too bad, because that is not the case with the n9.
Fwiw, I think the n9 is nice and all, got a lot of love for it but for what I paid for my 32gb n9 I expected more. I could live with a lil light bleeding and some recessed buttons but the lack of optimization and the battery life is unforgiving at this price. I bought the n9 to find out that maybe down the line at some point it will become the product I though that I was purchasing in the first place, if that makes any sense.
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^^^ this ^^^^
Yeah I'm debating the return myself.. It does not perform the way it should. Question is will they ever optimize the OS for it...?
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May i find out the areas which you feel the OS is not optimized? Is it the battery life?
When playing music or YouTube the tablet stutters and exhibits pops and clicks in the audio. It may just be the software is not optimized.. But for $600 it damm well should be. Given the way google handles things they could very well move on to the next thing and were left holding the bag.
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Chyeo1979 said:
May i find out the areas which you feel the OS is not optimized? Is it the battery life?
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Battery life should be better, don't get me wrong it's OK, I get may 7 hours but at this price 12 hours should be that norm. My n9 should not stutter, this thing is fast and you can tell....its sad but its kinda reminds me of touchwiz, the way it holds back Samsung's great hardware. Another thing that has bothered me is why no 3gb of ram? They are charging us a pretty penny and skimping on specs, the n9 is a ram hog. Right now with just the XDA app running usage is over 60% which is ridiculous.
At this price point you have to compare it to the iPad mini and or airs, apple just does so much of a better job all around. Apple has set the standard for what a high-end tablet should be and perform and the n9 comes close but it's not there yet. Had they added micro SD, I could overlook some things but this is a Nexus and we are too "dumb" to use a micro SD card. Its a great tablet but not at the price Google is charging, people are going to keep complaining because they expect more (as they should) for their money.
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Battery life should be better, don't get me wrong it's OK, I get may 7 hours but at this price 12 hours should be that norm. My n9 should not stutter, this thing is fast and you can tell....its sad but its kinda reminds me of touchwiz, the way it holds back Samsung's great hardware. Another thing that has bothered me is why no 3gb of ram? They are charging us a pretty penny and skimping on specs, the n9 is a ram hog. Right now with just the XDA app running usage is over 60% which is ridiculous.
At this price point you have to compare it to the iPad mini and or airs, apple just does so much of a better job all around. Apple has set the standard for what a high-end tablet should be and perform and the n9 comes close but it's not there yet. Had they added micro SD, I could overlook some things but this is a Nexus and we are too "dumb" to use a micro SD card. Its a great tablet but not at the price Google is charging, people are going to keep complaining because they expect more (as they should) for their money.
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Agreed with what you said, except my battery life is only about 5hrs as I mostly surf on browser. Coming from an old iPad 2, this is one of my biggest disappointment. No tablet should have <8hrs SOT for normal usage to me. And as if not bad enough, the battery charging rate is almost the same or slower than the draining rate. What's Google doing!!
I'm ok with no SD card, but feel Google should give 64gb storage and 3g ram too.
Only things that's keeping me are lollipop, the tablet size/design and my refusal to go back to iOS.
64gb storage, 3gb ram, Qi charging by default and OPTIMIZE LOLLIPOP FOR 64BIT ARCHITECTURE.!
As it stands now this thing is not optimized for the hardware.
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I am let down by 32 Gig only but I cope.
Put only what I need on the tablet (and a bit extra), the rest.... use the cloud.
My Note 3 has 3 Gig RAM and the Nexus 9 does not .... hard time explaining that but this is not Google' s choice, Google does not make the tablet.
Did people spend $800, $900 on this?
I did not I find the price ok.
I believe it will not take years to see 64bit apps, it will take months. (I can wait)
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I am let down by 32 Gig only but I cope.
Put only what I need on the tablet (and a bit extra), the rest.... use the cloud.
My Note 3 has 3 Gig RAM and the Nexus 9 does not .... hard time explaining that but this is not Google' s choice, Google does not make the tablet.
Did people spend $800, $900 on this?
I did not I find the price ok.
I believe it will not take years to see 64bit apps, it will take months. (I can wait)
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Hmm, how can it not be Google's choice. Google can't be telling HTC "Make me a tablet any way you like" right?
HTC makes Nexus 9, not Google.
I am sure Google has the say about the OS but not sure about the hardware.
2 Gig annoyed me but I am a big boy and said well it is still a Nexus device.... I will go for it.
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I am let down by 32 Gig only but I cope.
Put only what I need on the tablet (and a bit extra), the rest.... use the cloud.
My Note 3 has 3 Gig RAM and the Nexus 9 does not .... hard time explaining that but this is not Google' s choice, Google does not make the tablet.
Did people spend $800, $900 on this?
I did not I find the price ok.
I believe it will not take years to see 64bit apps, it will take months. (I can wait)
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522 in NYC after taxes, that's iPad money, I expect an iPad like experience. I'm not about putting up with bs at this price point, I shouldn't have to wait for optimization. Its acceptable to you and I understand that but it isn't to me, these companies want to let out inefficient devices and or products and we are the ones who have to deal with it? Negative, not this time.
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HTC makes Nexus 9, not Google.
I am sure Google has the say about the OS but not sure about the hardware.
2 Gig annoyed me but I am a big boy and said well it is still a Nexus device.... I will go for it.
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Google is the one that designs, sets the specs and tells HTC what to build it isn't the other way around. HTC is just a subcontractor that deals with manufacturing. The way you're putting it is like google is doing what HTC wants and google had no say in the hardware....are you kidding me? google is the one with all the leverage here, no disrespect but you make no sense from a business point of view.
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Cant wait for a review on this.
The 2GB RAM is most likely because nvidia wouldn't provide them with a TK1 SoC variant with more ram than that.
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Google is the one that designs, sets the specs and tells HTC what to build it isn't the other way around. HTC is just a subcontractor that deals with manufacturing. The way you're putting it is like google is doing what HTC wants and google had no say in the hardware....are you kidding me? google is the one with all the leverage here, no disrespect but you make no sense from a business point of view.
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You are the one that makes no sense, but believe what you may.
There is no way a software company goes to any hardware company and says to them ..... build it like this or else.
I worked for hardware manufacturer and it is always a compromise the customer says they want this, the company says too expensive we can do this.
The customer then says how about this, the manufacturer...
Continues to they get a compromise both sides can live with.
I know because this was part of my job.
Got a Smartwatch 3 you think maybe Google went to Sony and said Sony add no heart rate sensor .... or else?
You think they went to Motorola and they owned Motorola at the time and ordered them to use obsolete processors?
The original question is about performance and I answered It I am happy enough.
You want to believe Google went to HTC and says this is what we want you build of else.... what do I care?
Stay on topic.
I am happy with the performance as is
When there are more apps written for the 64 bit Tegra it will smoke everything else...... I my own opinion
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You are the one that makes no sense, but believe what you may.
There is no way a software company goes to any hardware company and says to them ..... build it like this or else.
I worked for hardware manufacturer and it is always a compromise the customer says they want this, the company says too expensive we can do this.
The customer then says how about this, the manufacturer...
Continues to they get a compromise both sides can live with.
I know because this was part of my job.
Got a Smartwatch 3 you think maybe Google went to Sony and said Sony add no heart rate sensor .... or else?
You think they went to Motorola and they owned Motorola at the time and ordered them to use obsolete processors?
The original question is about performance and I answered It I am happy enough.
You want to believe Google went to HTC and says this is what we want you build of else.... what do I care?
Stay on topic.
I am happy with the performance as is
When there are more apps written for the 64 bit Tegra it will smoke everything else...... I my own opinion
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You are leaving out one important thing and that is that HTC is in no position of power, they are declining across the board. They need google more than Goole needs them so to think that google had no say in the hardware is absolutely asinine. HTC told Google we're making it like this or kick rocks....PLEASE! You proved my point in stating that it is a compromise, meaning google had to make a decision and they obviously did. I agree with that statement but you made it seem like htc tells google what they are doing point blank and google says yes HTC. HTC can't build the n9 without google signing off on the product as I'm sure you are aware of so google had the final say.
I'm done.
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I want to believe this.. I was telling myself things are not optimized for the chip and architecture and it will get better. They only thing left is the light bleed I see.
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AstroDigital said:
HTC makes Nexus 9, not Google.
I am sure Google has the say about the OS but not sure about the hardware.
2 Gig annoyed me but I am a big boy and said well it is still a Nexus device.... I will go for it.
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If it's anything like the Nexus 7, then Google Engineers worked with HTC engineers to design the Nexus 9. But at the end the Nexus is a Google product and they are the ones with the final say in how the hardware is designed.
http://www.techradar.com/us/news/mo...ned-the-google-nexus-7-in-four-months-1089680
So will this rumored 5.1 update slated to hit first quarter 2015 be some TLC for this tablet..?
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