I am wondering if hardware companies will have less incentive of making 10" Android tablets now that Google is making their own? Does that mean we won't see an Asus Transformer v4 in the future, for example?
Techie2012 said:
I am wondering if hardware companies will have less incentive of making 10" Android tablets now that Google is making their own? Does that mean we won't see an Asus Transformer v4 in the future, for example?
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Arent there already 4 models of the Transformer out now?
If anything Id expect 3rd party people to step up their game and not make anymore ****ty spec'ed tablets. Its time to move to the newest hardware.
EniGmA1987 said:
Arent there already 4 models of the Transformer out now?
If anything Id expect 3rd party people to step up their game and not make anymore ****ty spec'ed tablets. Its time to move to the newest hardware.
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Yeah I agree, we may not see alot of tablets comign out with the screen res that the n10 has i'd expect alot of tablet with the 1920x1080 screen in the transformer infinity. I think most makers will wait for the tegra 4 processor to come out before we see anything substantial being released, I'd say the N10 will be the master of the domain for at least 6 months.
well i beleive we will see new processors ,the tegra 3 is obvious a medium choice for tablets cpu.
i believe we will see tablets with s4 pro ,exynos cpu and 2gb ram as untill now 1 gb is standard ,for resolution i believe may devs will own a nexus 10 so many apps will go up to nexus 10 resolution in the near future and so new tablets will have the same as nexus 10.
the only thing that i find a little disturbing on nexus is the missing sd slot so new tabs may have a future over nexus 10 ...
Techie2012 said:
I am wondering if hardware companies will have less incentive of making 10" Android tablets now that Google is making their own? Does that mean we won't see an Asus Transformer v4 in the future, for example?
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This will definitely put some serious price pressure on the 10-inchers. It's pretty well known that the BOM on the Samsung Note 10.1 is $260, and they have been selling it for $200 over cost. So now the N10 comes out, and the 16gb model has to be sold pretty near cost -- you can compare features and prices with the iPad BOM, and the total has to be pretty close to the msrp. My point is that, as with the N7, Google is shaving margins pretty thin, and competitors will have to follow suit -- even mighty Apple
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Yeah I agree, we may not see alot of tablets comign out with the screen res that the n10 has i'd expect alot of tablet with the 1920x1080 screen in the transformer infinity. I think most makers will wait for the tegra 4 processor to come out before we see anything substantial being released, I'd say the N10 will be the master of the domain for at least 6 months.
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It looks like March will be a big month for tablet fans. The Samsung Galaxy S4, with Exynos 5450, is expected. Surely it would be easier to drop that SoC on a tablet, N10-derived or not, as they already have the experience with the 5250, so I would expect tablets to arrive around the same time. T40 is scheduled for Q1 as well, so we may see some interesting head-to-head competition CES, in two months, will shed a lot of light on what to expect in Q1 2013.
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Techie2012 said:
I am wondering if hardware companies will have less incentive of making 10" Android tablets now that Google is making their own? Does that mean we won't see an Asus Transformer v4 in the future, for example?
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Pretty sure the new Note tablet will be built on the experiences of the old and the Nexus 10.
A 12" 2600k tab with Exynos 5450, 8-core Mali T604 and S-Pen magic, if you can wait 6 months and get an additional $100, you'll be in for a treat. (the 10+" screen is wishful thinking, but isn't that the Samsung way? The next big thing).
Ehh, apple won't have to budge the slightest. Let's all be honest here, as much as we hate them, apple (sadly) appeals to a larger crowd. It has that name brand value. No matter what they put out there, lots of people will buy it.
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Apple will get a run for its money.
Way to go Google :good:
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Ehh, apple won't have to budge the slightest. Let's all be honest here, as much as we hate them, apple (sadly) appeals to a larger crowd. It has that name brand value. No matter what they put out there, lots of people will buy it.
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They will always have a large flock of sheep, but it won't be a larger crowd for long. There is going to be a lag between the growth of Android tablets shipped and the growth of quality apps -- as developers are drawn to the platform and have to train up -- but as Android users takes the biggest slice of the market, the maturity of both hardware and software development will improve.
Apple's problem is attracting new customers; they may be selling more tablets, but many are to existing users.
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Pretty sure the new Note tablet will be built on the experiences of the old and the Nexus 10.
A 12" 2600k tab with Exynos 5450, 8-core Mali T604 and S-Pen magic, if you can wait 6 months and get an additional $100, you'll be in for a treat. (the 10+" screen is wishful thinking, but isn't that the Samsung way? The next big thing).
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As much as I crave the N10, I feel I'll be happier in the long-term waiting for the next big thing. Besides, I think my budget Lenovo A2109 is a great tab. My guess is that it compares poorly even in performance, but I just bought it a couple months ago, so I can bask in the upgrade for a while longer .
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Ehh, apple won't have to budge the slightest. Let's all be honest here, as much as we hate them, apple (sadly) appeals to a larger crowd. It has that name brand value. No matter what they put out there, lots of people will buy it.
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So, going 16:9 on the iPhone isn't budging? The very existence of the iPad mini?
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Hopefully the following article is misinformed (I do also have a Tab)
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/03/honeycomb-to-require-dual-core-processor-initially-tablet-only/
Otherwise we'll have to wait for devs to port Honeycomb to our tabs. Which may very well not happen since few of them have SGTs (and given the news flow they may very well pass it...) plus our hardware may be too limited (Underpowered processor, too small screen resolution) and we may very well want to pass on honeycomb too (If it's only for tabs and not for phones, forget about phone functionalities...)
Anyway let's just hope this is not true (Would hate to have to dump my tab only after 3 months of use...)
It's not like SGT becomes somehow inferior just because there's a new version of Android. It is a great device as it is.
All the more reason for me to justify picking up a Tab 2 when it is released
I love my tab as it is, and I see that there are already improvements to be made through updates to FroYo, so I am not really worried because I am satisfied even with my stock tab now.
Same here - I bought an unactivated vzw tab, and it just does everything I need. If there's a Tab 2 with Honeycomb, I'll look at it, but with my other android devices, the dev community seems to produce better functionality than the vendors do, and I can hopefully skip all the vendor-installed crap with a clean image when that time arrives.
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These are really bad news for us owners.
Maybe I'll switch to iOS devices then. They're running so much smoother compared to android 2.X devices...
We won't see how good the tab with its powervr 540 graphics would perform with proper hardwareacceleration honeycomb will provide.
And that, ladies and gentlemen is why we're all here on XDA......
The way things are looking, unless Google is planning on HC being a tablet only OS, there will be a basic HC OS for phones and an extra feature set that's unlocked for tablets with dual core procs and 1280 X 720 screens. What may happen is that the 7" tablet will essentially be an oversized phone with XDA hacking it so you can use the tablet features on the 7" tablets.
As a Galaxy Tab owner I'm not really that butthurt by this because I can envision having a camera phone and 7" tablet as mobile devices and a wifi only 12" tablet for home use. If the HC tablet features truly require a larger screen, then I'm content with a 7" tablet that more of a mobile device.
I am a big fan of the 16:9 screen dimension. Better for movies and better for mutli-pane implementation.
The worry I have is this will just cut the spread of SGT buyers. If we end up with a device not very popular and with a small customer/devs base you can forget about any dream of good custom roms or app developments
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HTC is rumored to be releasing a 7" tablet, and the SGT has sold millions in a short amount of time. Unlike the iPhone, there was no carrier based reason to purchase the SGT over the iPad, but people did, in large part due to the form factor. I suspect that the 7" tab will not go away.
LOL, Any body want to sell their antiquated Galaxy Tab?
I've been looking to get one on AT&T or T-Mo... a trade for a mint 16GB iPhone4 perhaps???
FUD
There are no mins for Gingerbread, and IF there are any for Honeycomb, the community devs will pull apart what is a good update for the GTab and cook it up.
Honestly if you are worried, start a fund to get a tab into more dev hands...
lets not forget these are claims and have not been officialy confirmed by Google themselves yet... we still have hope. i don't think Samsung will just abandon us like this. they will probably be expecting to release their next sucessor to the tab in september. honeycomb will come out before then, and hopefully the update will be pushed out to us. the gtab was made in mind to be upgradable to Honeycomb. much like the HD2 was made to be upgradable to WP7... but that never happened.
only time will tell if we get the update.
lets not forget these are claims and have not been officialy confirmed by Google themselves yet... we still have hope. i don't think Samsung will just abandon us like this. they will probably be expecting to release their next sucessor to the tab in september. honeycomb will come out before then, and hopefully the update will be pushed out to us. the gtab was made in mind to be upgradable to Honeycomb. much like the HD2 was made to be upgradable to WP7... but that never happened.
only time will tell if we get the update.
Eh...it's only bad news if you don't like your Tab the way it is now. So it's not bad news for me, it's just more news.
What is bad is how all of a sudden there are so many deals for people to get these Galaxy Tabs. That had dramaticly reduced the cost. My guess that are getting rid of invintory. And it seems this is going on before CES. Just my view
What deals? That $100 Verizon price drop? Good luck finding a Verizon store that will sell one for $500 no-contract, it's a rumor and not official, at least not yet.
The T-Mobile $349 on a 2-year? That's not a price reduction, it's a little lubrication for the contract buttsecks. The Best Buy and Amazon sales? Short term holiday traffic generators. The UK/Euro price drops? Those were adjustments to bring the device in line with US pricing once the North American Tabs were released.
Lets not forget economy of scale, the more they make and sell, the cheaper each individual unit becomes to produce, and they can (and often do) lower prices over the life of a product to reflect this.
As for Honeycomb, Asus just announced a 7" Honeycomb tablet with 1024x600 resolution, so that part of the specs rumor is busted right away.
And any way you slice it, we're looking at March at the very least for a Honeycomb tablet explosion*. That's six months after the Tab launched. That's six months of awesome Tab usage before you should start to get the urge to replace it.
The alternative would have been to do without for six months. Life is too short for holding out for the next best thing...buying the best thing you can now is almost always a better bet.
*The Motorola tablet may launch before then, but frankly, I don't give a DAMN about the Motorola tablet, because it's a 10" device and I don't want one of those.
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The alternative would have been to do without for six months. Life is too short for holding out for the next best thing...buying the best thing you can now is almost always a better bet.
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i am with u but u need money to burn
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The alternative would have been to do without for six months. Life is too short for holding out for the next best thing...buying the best thing you can now is almost always a better bet.
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No truer words have been spoken.
You can play the waiting game forever. By the time the Honeycomb tablets are finally in the wild, the next generation tablet hardware / software will already be announced. At some point you just got to buy.
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I just got a tablet running Samsung S5PV210 and I do hope it would be upgrade to honeycomb. The tablet run Android 2.2 OS currently, and its hardware specs. as following on the site where I picked up.
I'm going to contact with the vendor and ask for certain upgrade info.
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As for Honeycomb, Asus just announced a 7" Honeycomb tablet with 1024x600 resolution, so that part of the specs rumor is busted right away.
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I also believe that one of the announced Asus tablets with Honeycomb also has a 1Ghz snapdragon so that busts the Dual Core requirement too.
Okay, let's face it, Apple's iPad2's a killer, and I say this as a lifelong (and proud) Apple hater. This poll summarizes my options for a tablet, and should constitute suggestions for Samsung in designing a more competitive tablet. My thoughts are that there are several features of the Galaxy Tab 10.1 (BFC and stereo speakers come to mind) that Samsung could shave off, hence make the tablet sleeker and lighter.
I jumped on the ipad 2 wagon for now... Samsung and Motorola are taking too long (and I'm impatient) to release a wifi tablet and 800 is kinda ridiculous.
I had the samsung tab and the community wasn't there at all. I have faith in Samsung though. Android and ipad for now. *shrugs* the price was right.
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I jumped on the ipad 2 wagon for now... Samsung and Motorola are taking too long (and I'm impatient) to release a wifi tablet and 800 is kinda ridiculous.
I had the samsung tab and the community wasn't there at all. I have faith in Samsung though. Android and ipad for now. *shrugs* the price was right.
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Same here...which is odd because I am a very big android fan...but wit that said I have to say that the ipad2 this time seems to be almost everything the new tablets should be..
The only thing is though I am really not liking the whole having to buy my apps over again if I did get an ipad2.
After seeing the iPad2 reception and sales, I'm afraid that it is starting to look like the only hope left for geeks worldwide is that someone manages to install Android on the iPad2.
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After seeing the iPad2 reception and sales, I'm afraid that it is starting to look like the only hope left for geeks worldwide is that someone manages to install Android on the iPad2.
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Most of the hardware on the iPad 2 will work for me, except the camera and ports...
Rest of it is blazing...
I don't care how good ipad2 is. In the end its a toy that needs a pc. Im actually considering selling my core i3 gateway and picking up the 400$ version. I do everything on my epic 4g. I barely touch my laptop. Gtab is looking awesome. Im gonna wait for the reviews to trickle in. Kinda sucks that tegra gpu is single core so I may hold out for quad core tegra.
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http://www.itproportal.com/2011/09/...-figures-only-20k-sold-until-now-says-lenovo/
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To be honest with you, the pressure implied by Apple on Samsung's Tabs are making a serious blow to their reputation. You know that it might not be true but in consumers' eyes no one would generally opt for a product which has patent issues regardless of how good it is.
The reason TF being such a success is because it's a fresh, innovative idea which emerged into the market out of the blue with a solid spec sheet and an extremely attractive price tag for the mass.
Another example which illustrates that people just aren't look for android tablets. Especially not in the price range they are selling for.
I can't wait for the galaxy tab $99 fire sale! LOL
Also note that they are talking about last year, not the current galaxy tabs.
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Also note that they are talking about last year, not the current galaxy tabs.
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Strange that they`re showing a photo of the galaxy tab 10.1 with this story. Bit misleading.
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Well the TF still tops Android tablet sales so far.
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Well the TF still tops Android tablet sales so far.
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That depends on if hackers can get Android fully working on the HP Touchpad... HP has sold more touchpads than transformers.
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EP2008 said:
That depends on if hackers can get Android fully working on the HP Touchpad... HP has sold more touchpads than transformers.
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Pre or post fire sale? Just about any major Android tablet selling for $99 would get such response. Transformer, Galaxy Tab, Iconia, etc.
So that's not really a valid comparison (at least in my opinion).
Even though the TF is an entirely fresh new idea with a very solid spec sheet, it's not making such a big splash in the media world. Most people don't know about it. Google isn't paying attention to it. Google's star product is the galaxy tab for whatever reason.
It's kinda sad, really, that such a fine product as is the TF is not being noticed that much.
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That depends on if hackers can get Android fully working on the HP Touchpad... HP has sold more touchpads than transformers.
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Actually, I have to ask: where are you getting the information that HP sold more TouchPads than Asus has Transformers? I'd say HP sold a few hundred thousand TouchPads (say, 100K - 300K, MAYBE as many as 500K, but that's being really generous). There was the perception of really high sales, sure, but that comes from the hype generated by one of the stupidest decisions in modern marketing history.
Looking at Asus' shipping numbers and given that the Transformer is pretty much selling every bit of inventory they ship, I'd say they've sold at least 1 million Transformers. At a profitable price, I might add.
There's no way HP has sold more TouchPads.
Seems high to me but according to this article 800 to 900K Touchpads sold sold far. Another 100K in process.
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20110901PD218.html
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Pre or post fire sale? Just about any major Android tablet selling for $99 would get such response. Transformer, Galaxy Tab, Iconia, etc.
So that's not really a valid comparison (at least in my opinion).
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There are MANY budget android tablets for under $150... their sales are terrible. People simply don't want android tablets - I'm talking "everyday people", not geeks. The sales of ipads should clearly illustate this as Apple can sell more ipads in a day than Android tablet manufacturers can sell in a quarter.
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Seems high to me but according to this article 800 to 900K Touchpads sold sold far. Another 100K in process.
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20110901PD218.html
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Digitimes has never been a very credible source as far as I'm concerned... I just don't accept that this many TouchPads have been sold. Not that it matters if they did, it's just I don't buy it. I think we'd be seeing 100's of thousands of app downloads being trumpeted over at Precentral if that were the case.
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There are MANY budget android tablets for under $150... their sales are terrible. People simply don't want android tablets - I'm talking "everyday people", not geeks. The sales of ipads should clearly illustate this as Apple can sell more ipads in a day than Android tablet manufacturers can sell in a quarter.
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Certainly, the iPad is a phenomenon. I don't consider it a case of a technology selling, but rather some kind of consumer cultural craze. The hype that Apple gets certainly helps, along with the constant meme that the iPad is the only device that's selling.
The latest Android numbers show about 2.5 million Honeycomb devices in service. This really isn't that bad when you consider how new Honeycomb is and how poorly priced the earliest Honeycomb tablets were. The Transformer was really the first device that was both compelling and priced correctly, and I think its sales show that.
If the tablet market is viable at all, I think we'll see Android tablets follow phones fairly quickly. If the tablet market is just a flash in the pan, then the iPad will eventually fall off as well. But it's still too early to make any sweeping generalizations about this market, and it drives me crazy when people do so. It's like they can't remember how Android was a minor player 18 months ago, and everyone was saying then about the iPhone what they're saying now about the iPad.
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I think we'd be seeing 100's of thousands of app downloads being trumpeted over at Precentral if that were the case.
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Not true. I believe hp said that app downloads have increased 5x since the firesale, but you have to keep in mind that there was a survey done which apparently showed that most people download and use a very minimal amount of apps on their tablets... It was a crazy low number as far as I was concerned, but apparently, many people are happy just using stock apps. My wife has an android phone and she sticks to almost all stock apps... N00b! LOL
Gtab 10.1
I returned my Galaxy Tab the day Touchwiz rolled out and bought the Asus with dock instead. No regrets, though the Galaxy Tab 10.1 had a really wonderful official case which I miss.
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There are MANY budget android tablets for under $150... their sales are terrible. People simply don't want android tablets - I'm talking "everyday people", not geeks.
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I have to strongly disagree with this. Have you seen, held or tried out these 100$-150$ android tablets?
No one wants one of these because they are ****. Like, ****.
Most, if not all have resistive touch screen with no multi touch, on-board memory from 128-256mb ram to maybe 2 gigs for storage, support for wifi b/g, 7-9 inch screen with a 800×380 to 800x480 res. 400hhz cpu's, many dont come with a expandable sd/micro sd slot, 1100mah batteries etc. The list goes on. Not to mention almost all of the 100$ tablets comes with 1.6
No one wants these things cause they all have the same specs as my HTC touch. The quality is sub par. It has nothing to do with them having the android OS on it.
I love android. I love my tablet, I love my phone. I wouldn't spend 99$ for one of those POS. Even "everyday people" have that much "know"
You take our tablet or a Samsung 10.1 and slap a 99$ price tag on it, and watch em fly off the shelves.
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Digitimes has never been a very credible source as far as I'm concerned... I just don't accept that this many TouchPads have been sold. Not that it matters if they did, it's just I don't buy it. I think we'd be seeing 100's of thousands of app downloads being trumpeted over at Precentral if that were the case.
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Why do you think those numbers are unrealistic? Remember that they got those numbers from the fact that everywhere was sold out and we know how much stock people had. Where else would they be if they didn't get sold?
Also, the reason we're not seeing hundreds of thousands of app downloads is because people are waiting to port android over to the touchpad.
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I have to strongly disagree with this. Have you seen, held or tried out these 100$-150$ android tablets?
No one wants one of these because they are ****. Like, ****.
Most, if not all have resistive touch screen with no multi touch, on-board memory from 128-256mb ram to maybe 2 gigs for storage, support for wifi b/g, 7-9 inch screen with a 800×380 to 800x480 res. 400hhz cpu's, many dont come with a expandable sd/micro sd slot, 1100mah batteries etc. The list goes on. Not to mention almost all of the 100$ tablets comes with 1.6
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Yes, I've owned a few of them. Do you know what ereaders are good for, like the kindle? Reading books... that's pretty much all they do and they've sold WAY more than android tablets, often at a higher price. These $150 android devices do more than kindles, but people don't want them. They certainly perform better than the kindle, but Android hasn't taken off for them.
Perhaps it's all down to marketing? Who knows? But if Android tablet makers think they are going to sell Honeycomb tablets for $499+, they are completely out to lunch. When people are looking for a tablet, they say "I'm looking for an iPad" - that's a fact. Something has to change with the way Android tablets are promoted - maybe they need to hire apple guys?
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Certainly, the iPad is a phenomenon. I don't consider it a case of a technology selling, but rather some kind of consumer cultural craze. The hype that Apple gets certainly helps, along with the constant meme that the iPad is the only device that's selling.
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3 weeks ago, I was sitting on the train playing with my tablet when a man sat down next to me. He asked me if what I had was an ipad and I said no. Then he said, and I quote, "oh, you have an imitation".
First of all, I did not have my tablet inside a case or anything. I was playing galaxy on fire 2, and this thing looks nothing like an ipad or ipad 2.
But what really surprised me was how rude this gentleman was. He actually said I had an imitation.
With the billions of dollars apple is pumping into their ad campaign, people tend to only think the only "real" tablet is the ipad and ipad 2 and that everything else is a fake. And this atittude makes people so confident that this man actually said to a total stranger on the train "you have an imitation".
The latest Android numbers show about 2.5 million Honeycomb devices in service. This really isn't that bad when you consider how new Honeycomb is and how poorly priced the earliest Honeycomb tablets were. The Transformer was really the first device that was both compelling and priced correctly, and I think its sales show that.
If the tablet market is viable at all, I think we'll see Android tablets follow phones fairly quickly. If the tablet market is just a flash in the pan, then the iPad will eventually fall off as well. But it's still too early to make any sweeping generalizations about this market, and it drives me crazy when people do so. It's like they can't remember how Android was a minor player 18 months ago, and everyone was saying then about the iPhone what they're saying now about the iPad.
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Frankly, I'm surprised people aren't paying more attention to the transformer. It really is a solid device. The design is superb, if you ask me. And compared to the transformer, other android tablets (with the exception of the galaxy tab) feel like anchors.
The transformer really should get more attention than what it's getting now.
Compatible with existing docks and will have ICS.
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/42382/asus-eee-pad-transformer-2
Ha I just got this info myself from another source that will not mention here...
Dang glad i didn't buy one now.... cause I did find a B60 in my area..and had them put it aside..for this week...
http://tablets-planet.com/2011/10/0...t-will-be-499-no-price-cut-for-transformer-1/
well isnt that just great. Ive had mine for one day. A quad core? Damn!
this is all well and good but im still gonna keep my tf1 with a smile. im sure ICS will be on the tf1 shortly after its available. not worried
Ditto - I can't see quad core being necessary for some time to come. I'll upgrade next year.... when it's six or 8 core for the same price
I think it would make sense for Asus to ditch Android and wait for Windows 8...
Sorry, but I think Windows 8 > Android Honeycomb.
xTRICKYxx said:
I think it would make sense for Asus to ditch Android and wait for Windows 8...
Sorry, but I think Windows 8 > Android Honeycomb.
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Wow win 8 ok... I'm def buying one or two.
would you's recommend i wait for this or go for the galaxy tab 10.1? I really like the docking keyboard but i also like the look of tab 10.1. thanks!
Windows 8 <<<< Give me a break
I would wait for the TF2.... think about it Quad Core<<<<
how was the build quality of the first gen compared to samsung products?
I can say the TF3 will be out in June of 2012 too, but that doesn't mean it's going to happen. This is the beginning of media hype. The same thing happened with the original Transformer as well. How many months was it until we had a concrete date, much less hardware in hand? For god sakes, they were showing off hardware 3+ months before it hit stores! Having the CEO say they're preparing, is like me saying I'm preparing for Christmas now.
When we have a date, fine, post threads. But until we have a date, whats the point of having thread, after thread, after thread with every little stupid article about the TF2? It's all hype and nothing more.
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how was the build quality of the first gen compared to samsung products?
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It was sorta a crapshoot. In a way...I mean, as you probably are well aware, the people that got bad units (or are just too picky when it comes to backlight bleed) complained the loudest. When you consider the fact that they were selling 100k+ per month, having even 100 people complaining is still only 0.1%. Outside of that, I feel it's good. I have a B50 unit (not one of the even older B40 units) and it's build really solid, I can't complain unless I expect everything to be better than perfect.
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would you's recommend i wait for this or go for the galaxy tab 10.1? I really like the docking keyboard but i also like the look of tab 10.1. thanks!
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If you're after the looks, why not try the ipad 2? I don't even ow why people will buy the tab for $500.
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would you's recommend i wait for this or go for the galaxy tab 10.1? I really like the docking keyboard but i also like the look of tab 10.1. thanks!
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If you can find a B60 or below tab I'd go for it. B70 series are hit and miss when it comes to being able to root. Even if you NEVER root it, it's good to have the option IMO.
Quad-core? Not necessary for functioning apps at present. The dual-core TF1 performs beautifully. "Less is More" axiom applies here I believe.
I'd jump to the quad-core ONLY if dual boot with Win8 were an option. Never been a gamer so playing games mean diddly to me. (Win8 option would help with work interface).
Its not going to be thinner? Different Color? More aesthetically pleasing w/ a new dock to match? Only hardware is the difference?
I am dissapoint. I was really hoping that they would have created a more badass version of the TF2. They might as well just called it the TF1S and saved the TF2 monicker for the real deal.
I honestly think Asus, like Lenovo, are going to be in the Tablet races a long time. However, I think the tablets running Android will be short lived. I want a fully featured, robust, heavily developed OS. Windows 8 is just that. If anyone is not excited about Windows 8 competing with Android, then they are not excited for any innovation.
The Transformer 2 will most likely run Windows 8.
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I honestly think Asus, like Lenovo, are going to be in the Tablet races a long time. However, I think the tablets running Android will be short lived. I want a fully featured, robust, heavily developed OS. Windows 8 is just that. If anyone is not excited about Windows 8 competing with Android, then they are not excited for any innovation.
The Transformer 2 will most likely run Windows 8.
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Windows 8 should be able to run on Tegra 2 so we should have the dual boot capability on the TF1.
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I honestly think Asus, like Lenovo, are going to be in the Tablet races a long time. However, I think the tablets running Android will be short lived. I want a fully featured, robust, heavily developed OS. Windows 8 is just that. If anyone is not excited about Windows 8 competing with Android, then they are not excited for any innovation.
The Transformer 2 will most likely run Windows 8.
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source?
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xTRICKYxx said:
I honestly think Asus, like Lenovo, are going to be in the Tablet races a long time. However, I think the tablets running Android will be short lived. I want a fully featured, robust, heavily developed OS. Windows 8 is just that. If anyone is not excited about Windows 8 competing with Android, then they are not excited for any innovation.
The Transformer 2 will most likely run Windows 8.
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It won't. It will run IceCream Sandwhich. - If there is one thing I've learned it is to take all posts with a grain of salt. Usually it's peoples' personal opinions or prefrences instead of facts.
http://androidcommunity.com/asus-ee...ice-cream-sandwich-expected-in-q3q4-20110623/
If it doesn't have digitizer stylus I'll pass. I need the tablet for taking hadwritten notes at work, Transformer 1 is not good for it.
multiple places are reporting that the CEO of Asus has stated that transformer 2 will be coming out shortly (meaning by the end of the month or early next month).
http://androidandme.com/2011/10/news/asus-the-fire-isnt-hot-enough-transformer-2-going-for-499/
http://www.techradar.com/news/mobil...nd-gen-eee-pad-transformer-on-the-way-1031351
however, the price point says $499...hopefully they are referring to the 32GB model and not the 16GB model. I was really hoping to get this as soon as it came out but if 16GB is at $499..i might wait until closer towards the end of the year to hopefully get a better deal on it once samsung and others come out with their kal-el models.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/11/01/motorola-xoom-2-ad-confirms-honeycomb-and-pre-christmas-launch-will-likely-retail-for-400/
Well if Moto are going for a 2011 release there's no way they could shoehorn ICS on there before it hits the shops. Better to get the hardware out and selling and work on an ICS upgrade in the background once they have the source.
Well how many people on here would install another rom, install adw ex or multilive wallpaper? So what difference does it make which OS it has.
It would make no difference to me if it had froyo, i had froyo on my 7' galaxy tab and still use all the same apps and widgets on my xoom. So what does it matter?
With ICS you can have a fingerprint unlocker? woopeee dog doo! utter worthless sales mode crap!
Let's have a fingerprint unlocker, but we won't have micro sd card expansion so we can have a thin device, i think these tablet developers are brain damaged!
I would absolutely love and use a fingerprint unlocker! I synch with 2 Exchange servers that require a device unlock PIN every time I turn it on. Not sales crap - a very useful feature for some of us.
not sure if i get the point of them releasing it with only a dual core...
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not sure if i get the point of them releasing it with only a dual core...
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I think they're trying to target the consumer market. Xoom 1 was best of CES and first device honeycomb. I think first device with honeycomb means a lot because the ui was designed almost exclusively for xoom 1. Xoom 2 is not innovative but lighter weight and better screen for $200 less than xoom 1 (589 vs ~389) could do wonders for moto who posted a 3rd quarter loss. If xoom 2 is the first tablet to get ics that may help it out otherwise ics on xoom1 will hopefully satisfy my needs until octacore xoom 3 comes out
Xoom 2 looks like it has a ui skin. Big problem for me.
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>not sure if i get the point of them releasing it with only a dual core...
One major reason is being able to play most videos w/o need to convert, thanks to OMAP4's better multimedia support. For regular people, it means smooth HD Netflix & Hulu streaming. It's a big use-case. In addition to being thinner, lighter, more stylish, etc.
I agree it's not a big jump functionality-wise. Having ICS onboard would've been a more compelling sell, but ICS didn't make the deadline. Regardless, the new Moto line-up is much improved over the old.
>I think they're trying to target the consumer market.
Only for the Xoom Family, which is $350-ish now at BestBuy. The 8.2" Xoom 2 Media Edition will be for €400 (one can assume the same for the US), and is targeted at the under-10" segment.
The 10" Xoom 2 is targeted at the business crowd, mainly by its software load-out. Extrapolating from the announced UK pricing (£325+VAT vs ME's £299), it'll probably go for USD$450.
To sum: Xoom Family $350, Xoom 2 Media 8.2" $400, Xoom 2 10.1" $450.
The emphasis on "value pricing" (read: cheaper than iPad's $500) was made clear by Moto CEO when he said that pricing was something they'd work to bring down. I am a little surprised by the narrow price band--only $100 spacing between high and low-end. It may well be because of ICS' inavailability, which makes a more ambitious roll-out problematic.
Also, Moto is in a major transition of its own, being integrated into Goog, so it has other concerns at the moment.
Does anyone one knows any more info about this tablet? I can't find a decent video review. I am interested buying the media edition.
ICS will come later as an update. As for "When?", well... It's Motorola. Your guess is as good as mine.
The specs on this new tablet are indeed outdated considering new tablets coming in the next 3 months will mostly feature quadcore (or at least much faster hardware). The only way this tablet could be successful is if it allows them to sell it quite cheaper than the quadcore tablets. That could provide a very interesting mid-range product. So, pricing will either make, or break this product IMHO.
See Motorola is not equal to Asus
Motorola new Tablet dual core processor, less internal memory upgrade to ICS as they said.... in due course
Asus 32gig Quad Core same price as Motorola Dual Core 16gig Xoom 2. Upgrade to ICS they said before Christmas
I was surprised that they would release the Xoom 2 with the lackluster hardware and no ICS. What's the huge improvement? Apart from the fact that there's some nice but non-essential upgrades. Spill resistant Screen, shiny metal back, Rear Camera Centered, Power button on the side and not the back, Speakers centered, Grooved corners for easier holding.
My favorite being IT CHARGES OFF OF MICRO USB.
That would of been nice (and expected I would say) on our OG Xooms.
Also w/ Google acquiring Motorola and not releasing ICS on the Xoom 2 right away, I think, shows that Google is not out to play favorites since they acquired a hardware manufacturer. This should give the other big Android manufacturers warm feelings; HTC/Samsung/LG.
I could be wrong but just wanted to put my word in there.
Personally, I think once the Xoom 2 hits shelves, Moto could careless about the OG Xoom and we will be LUCKY to get ICS. I have not used my Xoom in a while since I now prefer my Samsung Galaxy Player 5.0 with a 32GB Class 10 Micro SD (and unlike the GED Xoom I can actually use it to move around files) and I use my Blackberry Playbook for $199. I happen to like the smaller form factor.
The OG Xoom will be forgotten by Moto soon and we will be left to XDA to update our devices;(
I really want a a premium tablet that weight less than 450 gr and is no bigger than 8.9 inch . I have a 7 inch tablet and i want my new one to be a bit bigger . Xoom 2 media edition has what i need . But nobody seems to care about it and every one want transformer prime for its tegra 3 . i am a bit afraid to buy it because i cant find any info on this tablet . Does the media edition has the digitiser to make active stylus work or not ? How is the the battery life on this tablet ? Will the xda community support this tablet or motorolla will just sell few and no one will care to built a custom rom ? I usually i am not an early adopter on products .... Do you have any suggestions for others tablets that will suits my needs ?
I read somewhere that Motorola would not lower the price of the Xoom becausenof the Xoom2, but I can't believe this statement. My guess is that there will be big discounts on the first model. What do you think about this ?
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Also w/ Google acquiring Motorola and not releasing ICS on the Xoom 2 right away, I think, shows that Google is not out to play favorites since they acquired a hardware manufacturer. This should give the other big Android manufacturers warm feelings; HTC/Samsung/LG.
I could be wrong but just wanted to put my word in there.
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Yeah, I think you are wrong. Google hasn't acquired Motorola yet. That deal has yet to be finalized or even passed.
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How is the the buttery life on this tablet ?
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It's great as long as you don't leave it near sources of heat.
I'm sorry
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Yeah, I think you are wrong. Google hasn't acquired Motorola yet. That deal has yet to be finalized or even passed.
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Correct, the deal hasn't closed yet. I think just recently around the 15th 99% of Motorola Shareholders approved of the merger. Most recently I think they're getting approval/clearance from the European Commission.
So hopefully January-February the deal will be finalized.
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It's great as long as you don't leave it near sources of heat.
I'm sorry
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