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I use Advanced Task Manager to 'turn off' Peep and Stocks, but they keep coming back, and I know they kill the battery. I've tried to remove them from my phone - I hate Twitter and am too poor to play the markets - but it isn't allowed, it seems. Any suggestions?
Thank you, in advance.
Peep set to manual update and not a scheduled one will not do anything to your battery. Same goes for Stocks.
Just make sure you open each app and set Manual updates.
I did this ages ago with v1 of the firmware. My battery usage decreased and my slow downs went away.
Don't worry about it.
IF you've rooted your Hero, you can remove peep, stocks and other 'un-removable' apps by following Paul's posting on Modaco.com:
http://android.modaco.com/content/htc-hero-hero-modaco-com/292018/21-09-2-3-the-modaco-custom-rom-is-here-core-core-chinese-enhanced/
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joemax said:
Peep set to manual update and not a scheduled one will not do anything to your battery. Same goes for Stocks.
Just make sure you open each app and set Manual updates.
I did this ages ago with v1 of the firmware. My battery usage decreased and my slow downs went away.
Don't worry about it.
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Thank you! I have done this with Stocks (the default seems to be to auto update every hour, for some reason) but Peep doesn't seem editable unless you log into it, and I don't have a Twitter account. Might it check for updates if I have never logged on, and is there a way of setting it for manual updates without an account?
Thanks again for your reply.
Well, even though I am using Advanced Task Manager to close down both Peep and Stocks, they keep coming back! They're like Zombie Apps!!
Any idea as to how to make them properly go away? I'm getting fed up with opening ATM every few hours to shut 'em down...
Also, 'Auto Update' keep unchecking itself in Google Data Sync. Is this usual?
Many thanks
if you don't use them, just remove them from your phone.
Read my post above...
bunt83 said:
if you don't use them, just remove them from your phone.
Read my post above...
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I'm afraid I haven't rooted the phone...
TBH, as long as Stocks is set to never update and you are not logged into Twitter via the Social Networks section of Settings, why worry ?
joemax said:
TBH, as long as Stocks is set to never update and you are not logged into Twitter via the Social Networks section of Settings, why worry ?
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Because peep with default settings is far from idle. I've not managed to get the battery to last longer than 6-8 hours with the phone idle and wifi&gps off. Once peep is fed with account credentials you can turn refresh and notifications off, but that's impossible without an account. The clear message to HTC is to either fix peep so that it remains fully idle when it doesn't have the information it needs to do its job, or isolate it as a separate package that can be removed separately without rooting the phone.
My battery will last more than a day and O am not a light user...
Why not sign up for a Twitter account, log in to Peep, kill the auto update (set to manual), log out of Peep (in Settings) and then ignore your Twitter account.
Its free.
See if that helps before the pain of rooting and removing apps.
Worth a try.
joemax said:
Why not sign up for a Twitter account, log in to Peep, kill the auto update (set to manual), log out of Peep (in Settings) and then ignore your Twitter account.
Its free.
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I hope HTC's developers not not share your attitude.
It's not about the cost. It's about the failure to meet one of the most basic requirements in programming. An application which hasn't been configured for use should not use any system resources other than possibly storage.
Why on earth should someone with no interest whatsoever in twitter have to sign up for an account just to be able to turn the damn thing off?
Woah... I am just trying to help out here and suggest ways of sorting your 'issues'
I used my girlfriend's twitter address to log on and then turned automatic updates off, before logging out. And... still it returns!
It will return point is is that it won't use resources.
Just don't worry about it. Seriously, all this fretting over background processes and task killers, no need to.
Kinda hard not to worry about it when it's using 9mb of precious RAM. :/
Even after turning manual updates on, still can't kill it.
So I successfully rooted my phone, removed abunch of bloatware, like verizonbackup, friendstream, tweeter, flickr, and a few others. but now my gmail wont sync automatically, i have to manually refresh my inbox, it doesnt seem to be "pushing" new messages to me and its getting very annoying. Is anyone else having this problem?
I think we will start seeing more and more of these issues as people root the phone and/or remove apps that they think are "bloatware".
Did you try removing and re-adding your gmail account?
I just completed rooting my phone this morning, but only removed City ID. My gmail is working normally, including giving me new mail notifications as soon as emails come in. Maybe you deleted something you shouldn't have deleted.
As an aside, why did people hate City ID so much? I deleted it because everyone else was, and because I wasn't using it, but not really sure what it does.
areghas said:
So I successfully rooted my phone, removed abunch of bloatware, like verizonbackup, friendstream, tweeter, flickr, and a few others. but now my gmail wont sync automatically, i have to manually refresh my inbox, it doesnt seem to be "pushing" new messages to me and its getting very annoying. Is anyone else having this problem?
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If you removed the verizon backup assistant you have to do a factory reset, meaning wipe all your data, this could be your issue. I seen somewhere else saying you have to do a factory reset once you remove that.
sdorn77 said:
As an aside, why did people hate City ID so much? I deleted it because everyone else was, and because I wasn't using it, but not really sure what it does.
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It nags every 15 days and wants $2.99 a month fee. It is useless since all it does it tell you what the city and state is associated with the caller's area code and exchange. Most everyone knows the local area code and exchanges. if it was a one time $2.99 maybe, but $2.99 a month they are crazy.
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It nags every 15 days and wants $2.99 a month fee. It is useless since all it does it tell you what the city and state is associated with the caller's area code and exchange. Most everyone knows the local area code and exchanges. if it was a one time $2.99 maybe, but $2.99 a month they are crazy.
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I agree. That would be irritating as hell. I have only had my phone for 3 or 4 days, so I hadn't seen any nag screens yet. Now hopefully I won't!
sdorn77 said:
I agree. That would be irritating as hell. I have only had my phone for 3 or 4 days, so I hadn't seen any nag screens yet. Now hopefully I won't!
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Oh, you will I think the cost is outrageous too, especially since all the program is doing is checking the XXX-YYY-0000 against a data base, where X is state and Y is town.
As for the OP, just go into Applications menu and clear your Gmail and Gmail Storage cache. We used to have a similar problem way back in the dark ages of 2008 G1, when rooted owners would immediately uninstall the Fave 5 application Tmo so kindly put on there, which would immediately erase all Cloud contacts AND break sync
I performed a factory reset after removing everything I didnt want, but I think I read in another post that it might have something to do with friendstream.apk, does anyone happen to have this and can host it somewhere? I'll try removing and readding the email account.
areghas said:
I performed a factory reset after removing everything I didnt want, but I think I read in another post that it might have something to do with friendstream.apk, does anyone happen to have this and can host it somewhere? I'll try removing and readding the email account.
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Same here.....looking for the friendstream.apk. On a side note, don't install the friendstream.apk for the evo, as it put me in a nasty reboot loop.
I too am having this issue, but it is only happening to one of my two gmail accounts, one pushes fine but the secondary account I have to manually refresh to get my email. I haven't removed any bloatware from my phone.
Count me in... Neither HTC Mail nor gmail are auto syncing on their own. If I turn OFF then back ON the auto sync (via the power widget) they sync, but any futher emails are not working.
This is on the leaked 2.2 for me
How's your battery status after the last facebook update?
From what I'm seeing facebook is holding a partial wakelock for the whole time
Is this happening in any situation?
Removing the facebook account from the phone fixes the problem... but would like to keep it in...
now I'm trying with the notifications disabled...
FB has the highest partial wakelock use on mine, but it's not massive, it's bar is about 1/5 full.
but the timing is embarassing compared to other apps :/
to me it looked that the android system wakelock were very high too...
i'm trying to see if the notifications disabled it lowers down...
How can I check this?
*#*#4636#*#*
then select "battery history"
Or use Anycut to create a shortcut to the 'Testing' app.
same here.. uninstalled.
No problems here.
41 seconds total.
Although I would LOVE to be able to turn off the Facebook push notifications. Despite having disabled everything inside the FB app, they still get pushed to my phone, which drives me ****ing crazy.
I suspect having everything turned off would be why you have a very low wakelock?
Mine is very low. I set facebook to never check for updates since the last release added push notifications. I don't think polling for updates is necessary anymore. No clue why it even has the option still.
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hexix said:
Mine is very low. I set facebook to never check for updates since the last release added push notifications. I don't think polling for updates is necessary anymore. No clue why it even has the option still.
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Facebook developers suck balls, that's why.
JCopernicus said:
Facebook developers suck balls, that's why.
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Status updates aren't pushed, I'm guessing that it'd fry the servers. So if you want your synced contacts to display their status in the contact popup you have to poll them.
Somehow the iPhone and Blackberry apps are able to use push notifications properly without frying anyone's servers. Email and SMS notifications can also be sent out instantly. I'm pretty certain there is no technical reason why the Android app can't work right.
pfmiller said:
Somehow the iPhone and Blackberry apps are able to use push notifications properly without frying anyone's servers. Email and SMS notifications can also be sent out instantly. I'm pretty certain there is no technical reason why the Android app can't work right.
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Sure there is, facebook developers suck balls.
pfmiller said:
Somehow the iPhone and Blackberry apps are able to use push notifications properly without frying anyone's servers. Email and SMS notifications can also be sent out instantly. I'm pretty certain there is no technical reason why the Android app can't work right.
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The news feed updates don't get "pushed" to either of those devices. The polling frequency is for updating the news feed which you would want when using the facebook widget.
I'm not interested in wall updates getting pushed. Notifications get pushed to those devices, and that's all I expect from the Android app.
Newbie question, what is a wake lock and how does it drain battery?
killing the facebook app solved my problem (not only facebook where being very "active"... but also the "android system" was kept constantly awake!!)
in the usage history the system was basically never sleeping... running the whole time :/
as for now I started facebook again... and disabled the notification thing... let see what will happens...
I can confirm that disabling the notifications "fixed" the problem... no more continuos wakelock when app is started...
dunno if push is really working... (don't appear so... will see in the next days :/)
Rusty! said:
I suspect having everything turned off would be why you have a very low wakelock?
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Yeah, probably.
The Facebook app is just atrocious. I hate it with a fiery passion. Basically the ONLY 2 reasons I have it installed are 1) Facebook/Contact picture sync and 2) Upload from gallery to FB.
So I just got my Atrix in the mail, and I'll create a MotoBlur account, but I really don't want to use it. I'm experienced with Android and I will DL LauncherPro but I hear that Blur still runs in the background. ("Has its tenticles deeper than just the launcher)
I don't want to root just yet, but how can I go about taking back control over the phone. What's the easiest way to remove most of the bloatware, and how can I make it so MotoBlur doesn't waste my battery and data plan? I don't want it to sync all my social stuff for me. That's what Pure Messenger is for.
Oh and do any cases fit in the car dock?
Was thinking about just deleting all the widgets, but I'm sure it'd still be trying to sync.
Tennis11 said:
So I just got my Atrix in the mail, and I'll create a MotoBlur account, but I really don't want to use it. I'm experienced with Android and I will DL LauncherPro but I hear that Blur still runs in the background. ("Has its tenticles deeper than just the launcher)
I don't want to root just yet, but how can I go about taking back control over the phone. What's the easiest way to remove most of the bloatware, and how can I make it so MotoBlur doesn't waste my battery and data plan? I don't want it to sync all my social stuff for me. That's what Pure Messenger is for.
Oh and do any cases fit in the car dock?
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Just don't set up any accounts under the MotoBlur section in Accounts and use third party apps for things like FB and Yahoo. Also, you can just go to Settings>Applications>Manage Applications and uninstall all the bloatware. It really doesn't uninstall them from the phone but they won't be running or taking up RAM and CPU, basically freezing them. Don't use any of the Moto apps or widgets either because they require you setup accounts under the MotoBlur section.
OK. So what you're saying is to create a Blur when I first boot the phone up, then go to account settings and delete it? Or just set it to no sync?
Tennis11 said:
OK. So what you're saying is to create a Blur when I first boot the phone up, then go to account settings and delete it? Or just set it to no sync?
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No, you need a Blur account to use the phone but you don't need to associate any of your email or social accounts to it. When you go into Accounts it will be broken into two different sections, MotoBlur accounts up top and Other Accounts on the bottom. Do not set up any accounts under the MotoBlur section, just leave it as is. Obviously set up your Google account at the bottom and then download apps from the market to use for other social and email accounts. Don't even bother going back to "Accounts", just use your apps. And again, don't use the "Messaging" and "Social Networking" either because they are associated with Blur. Don't bother with any Motorola widgets either. You'll already have the Gmail app and a "Text Messaging" app in the drawer.
Tennis11 said:
OK. So what you're saying is to create a Blur when I first boot the phone up, then go to account settings and delete it? Or just set it to no sync?
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Oh, also, make sure you go to Settings>Data manager and uncheck all those options as well, you don't need them. Set up all your notifications from within the apps you have downloaded.
Thanks for the quick responses mate.
at least you found the forum ....
but u probably need to read up a little more
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=960336
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=972459
those 2 should get u started
lsxrx7 said:
at least you found the forum ....
but u probably need to read up a little more
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=960336
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=972459
those 2 should get u started
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Well, he also mentions in the OP that he doesn't want to root just yet.
live4nyy said:
Oh, also, make sure you go to Settings>Data manager and uncheck all those options as well, you don't need them. Set up all your notifications from within the apps you have downloaded.
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Wait, are you saying to get rid of Data enabled as well? (enable data access over mobile network)
Wouldn't that then not allow you to sync with gmail over the AT&T network?
Also, how much harm does enabling background data in the settings do? I thought it was just a 'global settings' thing so that it allows for sync?
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Wait, are you saying to get rid of Data enabled as well? (enable data access over mobile network)
Wouldn't that then not allow you to sync with gmail over the AT&T network?
Also, how much harm does enabling background data in the settings do? I thought it was just a 'global settings' thing so that it allows for sync?
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Right, sorry, just deselect whats under the "Application data delivery" in Settings>Data Manager>Data Delivery
I need some help transfering my stuff...
I've been trying all day and all I've managed is a couple of apps using AppBrain sync.
My google contacts didn't sync either...
Could somebody list out the easiest way to transfer everything? Including:
- Music
- Gameloft Games
- Regular apps and their data
- Contacts
- Pictures and video
I have a feeling using my computer as the vector to transfer would be the best idea for some like the music.
live4nyy said:
Oh, also, make sure you go to Settings>Data manager and uncheck all those options as well, you don't need them. Set up all your notifications from within the apps you have downloaded.
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Wait, you want us to disable background data and data enabled over mobile network? Won't that kill every app that needs data?
live4nyy said:
Right, sorry, just deselect whats under the "Application data delivery" in Settings>Data Manager>Data Delivery
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franciscojavierleon said:
Wait, you want us to disable background data and data enabled over mobile network? Won't that kill every app that needs data?
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It was a mistake and I already corrected myself
Go to market, download soft "SystemApp Remover" and remove any bloatware you want.
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Zanr Zij said:
Go to market, download soft "SystemApp Remover" and remove any bloatware you want.
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Well, you can use the built in app manager to "uninstall" the bloatware on the Atrix and the OP has already said he does NOT want to root yet. But if he did I would suggest using Titanium and freeze the apps so you could get OTA updates in the future.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=972459
easiest way to deal with bloatware is to root your phone using superoneclick and then use BloatFreezer to freeze any of the motoblur services (its highly recommended you get another Home before freezing motoblur). BloatFreezer only costs a dollar, while titanium backup is close to $4, use whichever one you want, but i highly recommend BloatFreezer if all you want to do is freeze applications.
As title.
I don't use Sync at all, but keeps communicating to Google about updates etc, and when I go onto desktop Play Store I can "send" apps to my tablet...
Any way to stop this, I just want to maximise battery life and log into the Play store manually if required...
Will "deleting" account remove data?
Ashin said:
As title.
I don't use Sync at all, but keeps communicating to Google about updates etc, and when I go onto desktop Play Store I can "send" apps to my tablet...
Any way to stop this, I just want to maximise battery life and log into the Play store manually if required...
Will "deleting" account remove data?
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If you aren't syncing then no battery will in theory be used for syncing things such as contacts, calendar etc but you still get play store notifications.
You can turn off app update notifications I think if you are rooted, eg via titanium backup but whether that actually stops the checking or just stops the device reporting I don't know.
But to be honest I would say the battery used with regards to a few update notifications from the play store is tiny tiny tiny compared to everything else.
Just turn off sync. The send stuff is all push and uses zero battery unless actually used.
GldRush98 said:
Just turn off sync. The send stuff is all push and uses zero battery unless actually used.
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I have turned off sync and everything else and even "froze" various google apps. the damn thing just turns the stuff on again and syncs and connects to google . I use my n7 on a non internet connected wifi net for media playback of movies and music. the playback skips and lags as the n7 tries to phone home to google....very annoying!