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I just got my 32gb microSD card (http://tiny.cc/6dkju). I originally formatted it as NTFS so that I can transfer large files. I put it back into my EVO (cyanogen 6 froyo nightly) and it says that the card is blank. I realize that this is because its not Fat32.
My question is that: is there anyway to enable usage/compatibility with NTFS formated microSD cards?
thanks,
mark
also, i did search and couldn't find any concrete answers.
NTFS (NT File System) is a microsoft proprietary format.
No, android will not read NTFS. Format the card in the phone or fat32.
Not much reason to use NTFS, but I woulda thought Android might have support for NTFS-3g
jigglywiggly said:
Not much reason to use NTFS, but I woulda thought Android might have support for NTFS-3g
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Which in my experience, is buggy as hell.
Stick with FAT for now, or ext3 if you can.
And I swear, if a Mac-humper comes on here and says to format in HFS+, I think I might just lose it.
I tried formatting my card in ext3 through recovery and it didn't seem like it wanted to format the whole card in that format. I suppose you could format it in a linux box that way. My macbook (ahem, lol) won't do that file system, I think. Seems kinda waste of time to install linux in a virtual machine just to format a card. I wonder if the phone would ***** about the entire card being ext3? I'm lazy, so I haven't tried it to see, yet.
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drmacinyasha said:
Which in my experience, is buggy as hell.
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Don't know when you last tried it... in my experience, Debian does not include "buggy as hell" software in their stable repositories.
jigglywiggly said:
Not much reason to use NTFS.......
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I tried to load up a 10GB movie file to my EVO to take to my buddy's house and watch through his PS3. I was unable to load a file that large because of the 4GB file size limit of FAT32. I'm just sayin'
by the time you transfer a 10 gig movie file to your phone, the movie will be out on cable!!
oldmanwinter said:
I just got my 32gb microSD card (http://tiny.cc/6dkju). I originally formatted it as NTFS so that I can transfer large files. I put it back into my EVO (cyanogen 6 froyo nightly) and it says that the card is blank. I realize that this is because its not Fat32.
My question is that: is there anyway to enable usage/compatibility with NTFS formated microSD cards?
thanks,
mark
also, i did search and couldn't find any concrete answers.
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wow, 99 for a non-fishy 32 gig? nice find! EDIT: :-( they were selling it for $49 by accident about two weeks ago. Still $99 is a good deal.
Look for a program called gparted. It's free and supports almost all formats for partitioning etc. Anyway hope that helps.
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so is there any file system that this phone will use that will allow file sizes beyond the 4gb limit of fat32?
edit: whoops, wrong forum/phone.. I'm asking about the epic, not the evo.. I was going to start a thread, but the forum suggested I check out this (and other threads) before I start my own.. very handy feature for those new to the forum :]
yes im asking this. im on a HTC Desire Z now with a sd card and i wanted to know if its a big difference to live with or without a SDcard. is it do-able? i cant choose bitween the s3 and nexus 4
The SD card doesn't make a difference, you just have to figure out if you can live with 8/16 GB of storage. The answer is probably yes, if you are willing to use streaming services (google music, netflix, etc.)
I personally would not be able to live with SD cards in my life. I will have to end myself soon because Dropbox and Google Drive are taking over.
Oh well...
yumcax said:
The SD card doesn't make a difference, you just have to figure out if you can live with 8/16 GB of storage. The answer is probably yes, if you are willing to use streaming services (google music, netflix, etc.)
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i have 32 GB now so and i have 9GB free. but google music is not available in my country (yet). does it stream your music or is it like itunes?
more threads of sdcard complaints... will it ever end?
Will u be able to transfer stuff from phone to a computer, even if u don't have a SD card
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mohnim said:
Will u be able to transfer stuff from phone to a computer, even if u don't have a SD card
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of course you can, just plug the phone into your computer and it gets recognized as a mass storage device...
I think 16GB will be more than sufficient for me. If it isn't than I will just get a USB OTG cable and use the current Micro SD card that I have. I have an adapter that I can plug the SD card into that allows it to be plugged into a USB port. So effectively giving myself access to expandable SD storage
Probably won't need it, but that's my plan.
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more threads of sdcard complaints... will it ever end?
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eh man i am not complaining
Came from a G2 (with microSD card slot) to a Gnex, I have to say I didn't miss the card even a bit. 16GB is fine since I use Google music for streaming, and that's the majority part of storage. I don't use GNex's camera that much. I have a Canon D550 and there isn't a phone camera that could produce pictures even similar in quality.
You might want to mange your space a little, like deleting unwanted backups, not having a million Titanium backups, but it's manageable.
I must admit, although I would rather have a micro-SD slot, its really not a feature I'm over worried about in terms of storage. What concerns me is whether it increases the risk of flashing roms etc to the phone. I you brick you phone, is it not going to make it more difficult to unbrick it? Or can adb always push stuff to the phone one way or another?
Also, just to confirm, you personal data stored internally (in what I assume will be called the sdcard folder) is retained each time you wipe your phone, right?
mazdarati2 said:
eh man i am not complaining
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what do you want to hear, then?
did you not see the other 25 threads on the same damn topic?
no, living without an SDcard is not doable, it is like burning in hell. dont do it or you will hang yourself within a week. okay? okay. now stfu and gtfo
DonDizzurp said:
what do you want to hear, then?
did you not see the other 25 threads on the same damn topic?
no, living without an SDcard is not doable, it is like burning in hell. dont do it or you will hang yourself within a week. okay? okay. now stfu and gtfo
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wtf man what is your problem. You cant stand it that im not as smart as you so you are going to flame on me? dude please, grow up
G405T said:
I must admit, although I would rather have a micro-SD slot, its really not a feature I'm over worried about in terms of storage. What concerns me is whether it increases the risk of flashing roms etc to the phone. I you brick you phone, is it not going to make it more difficult to unbrick it? Or can adb always push stuff to the phone one way or another?
Also, just to confirm, you personal data stored internally (in what I assume will be called the sdcard folder) is retained each time you wipe your phone, right?
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intern is not your SD
I've got a GS3 with a 32gb SD Card (as well as the internal at 16gb) and now a 16gb Nexus 7. I have to be honest and say it does bug me. If you download nightlies and make a lot of Nandroids then your going to suffer to get used to it. There is no way I would recommend an 8gb. I travel a lot on flights and that is when I really miss the storage for music and films, but I do have the phone to fall back on. That said, there are plenty of iSheep out there that don't seem to struggle and Google Drive and Google Music are awesome services. Perhaps I'm the one that should be more tolerant.
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mazdarati2 said:
yes im asking this. im on a HTC Desire Z now with a sd card and i wanted to know if its a big difference to live with or without a SDcard. is it do-able? i cant choose bitween the s3 and nexus 4
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Hey mazdarati2,
I came from the Droid Incredible to the Galaxy Nexus and I can tell you that having a large internal memory rather than the SD card slot is really not a big deal. At first, I thought I would miss it also, but I really wanted the Nexus. The only downside comes if you have a tendency to work with experimental/unstable ROMs, which can corrupt the filesystem on the memory and you will have to reformat and push the factory image with fastboot. When you do this, the SD memory partition gets formatted as well, which is a bummer and if you ever had any problems like that on phones with a physical SD card, you wouldn't have that problem. For the average user that doesn't use more than 8-16GB of space, it will cause no problems, in fact, it will be better because it gets rid of system confusion when saving pictures/videos/other files and then finding them when you connect to your PC. I hope this helps and sways your decision towards getting a nexus 4. It's a great phone and if you're on pre-paid, it will save you a lot of money in the long run! Good Luck!
mazdarati2 said:
intern is not your SD
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The reason I assumed 'sdcard' folder, is because the LG 4X HD, which has both sd and 16GB internal storage places all of your user files in the sdcard directory independent of whether you are using an sdcard. The actual sdcard files are stored in '/sdcard/external_sdcard' which I must admit I found slightly odd.
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Hey mazdarati2,
I came from the Droid Incredible to the Galaxy Nexus and I can tell you that having a large internal memory rather than the SD card slot is really not a big deal. At first, I thought I would miss it also, but I really wanted the Nexus. The only downside comes if you have a tendency to work with experimental/unstable ROMs, which can corrupt the filesystem on the memory and you will have to reformat and push the factory image with fastboot. When you do this, the SD memory partition gets formatted as well, which is a bummer and if you ever had any problems like that on phones with a physical SD card, you wouldn't have that problem. For the average user that doesn't use more than 8-16GB of space, it will cause no problems, in fact, it will be better because it gets rid of system confusion when saving pictures/videos/other files and then finding them when you connect to your PC. I hope this helps and sways your decision towards getting a nexus 4. It's a great phone and if you're on pre-paid, it will save you a lot of money in the long run! Good Luck!
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i dont think im gonna try out new ROMS. maybe only Pimp My ROM, but thats it
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I've got a GS3 with a 32gb SD Card (as well as the internal at 16gb) and now a 16gb Nexus 7. I have to be honest and say it does bug me. If you download nightlies and make a lot of Nandroids then your going to suffer to get used to it. There is no way I would recommend an 8gb. I travel a lot on flights and that is when I really miss the storage for music and films, but I do have the phone to fall back on. That said, there are plenty of iSheep out there that don't seem to struggle and Google Drive and Google Music are awesome services. Perhaps I'm the one that should be more tolerant.
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yes i need to know to use Google Drive and stream apps like that. never used it
Anyone has any idea?
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obsanity said:
Anyone has any idea?
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16GB doesn't mean you actually get 16GB of storage there are always a couple taken up by the OS that you can't access. There's a reason for it that I just cant jog my memory to remember right now. It's the same with any type of storage, a 500 GB pc hard drive drive isn't 500 GB there's a small amount reserved that you can't access, there's a name for it I just can't remember what it is (boot partition?). Not sure if you can recover them using a custom ROM like CM or not as I am happy with stock android.
Well its called a boot partition on anything with an OS yes but an external hard drive and its space is down to the actual number of GBs. So 1gb is actually 1024 MBs so 2GB is actually 2048 MBs and so on.
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16GB doesn't mean you actually get 16GB of storage there are always a couple taken up by the OS that you can't access. There's a reason for it that I just cant jog my memory to remember right now. It's the same with any type of storage, a 500 GB pc hard drive drive isn't 500 GB there's a small amount reserved that you can't access, there's a name for it I just can't remember what it is (boot partition?). Not sure if you can recover them using a custom ROM like CM or not as I am happy with stock android.
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Thanks for a reply but I don't think that's it in this case. I have the 8GB version and that should give me 5.7 usable. Look in the right top corner of my screenshot.
I've recovered about 400MB before that by moving a TWRP backup which somehow got placed in a word location. Can anyone install this app and tell me if they have a similar square of unrecognized space?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jzap.memorymap
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Hello colleagues, today became the owner of LG nexus4. Some time ago I wrote a brochure that the phone come with a slot for a micro SD card and without reference to the source or a second opinion, I bought the phone with 8GB memory. till now i have a phone with 16gb and somehow fit in it, but this 8gb are not enough for me. My question is if there is a way to add storage hardwarly somehow?
Nope, it's impossible. The only way would be to buy a different device.
Unless you want to find a ROM/kernel that supports USB OTG, and you could use a flash drive to store things. I'm not sure how well implemented this is on the n4 though.
That's easy. Just download Google drive; it offers 15gb free space .
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badboy47 said:
That's easy. Just download Google drive; it offers 15gb free space .
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And of course, how could I forget. The main reason for the lack of space is because Google is pushing cloud storage. It is the future after all, and I find it is so much easier than worrying about physical storage space.
The only problem with cloud storage is it requires a wifi connection and you cannot directly stream from it if wifi speeds arent fast enough, ex. music/movies. Thats why i despise cloud storage unless you need to store files that do not have to stay on your phone 24/7
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The only problem with cloud storage is it requires a wifi connection and you cannot directly stream from it if wifi speeds arent fast enough, ex. music/movies. Thats why i despise cloud storage unless you need to store files that do not have to stay on your phone 24/7
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If you have enough data, it can be useful anywhere you have a data connection. But of course, not everyone has that.
punish said:
Hello colleagues, today became the owner of LG nexus4. Some time ago I wrote a brochure that the phone come with a slot for a micro SD card and without reference to the source or a second opinion, I bought the phone with 8GB memory. till now i have a phone with 16gb and somehow fit in it, but this 8gb are not enough for me. My question is if there is a way to add storage hardwarly somehow?
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Hello punish, you can add hardware storage only with usb otg. Read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2181820
You should have an otg y-cable and flash a zip in recovery.
But then you still have to be next to a power source for your extra storage. This is the single thing that seriously annoys me with the devices today.
I remember getting my old 5th gen iPod video 80gb back in 2005 when it first came out. And it still works perfectly fine today despite being 8 years old and using a hard drive instead of flash storage.
I mean how can companies offer a device with 8gb (5gb usable) and possibly suggest it is enough. That is 10 times less than a product from 8 years ago.
I know they are pushing cloud storage but still in today's world it is turd.
Not everybody has unlimited data.
No provider will have great reception everywhere.
Devices nowadays are pushing 1080p screens and you will only possibly be able to stream 1080 media on lte which will lower your reception areas down significantly.
Streaming files from the cloud will consume far more battery than playing local content.
I don't even understand how they thought that we are in a current state where cloud storage is better than local.
At least not until we have gigabit mobile internet and mobile sized flash storage that can write at those speeds. It's just a gimmick that can be used for backing up non important files and if your lucky streaming music.
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Alright, this thing is a real piece of crap but it'll have to do if you really need/want extra storage: http://www.zerolemon.com/details.ph...r-battery-case-2250mah-removable-battery-pack
You'll have to be a little handy since it needs to be modded. Basically, there's a LOT of wasted space inside the case, which makes it perfect for adding a usb flash drive / card reader.
I'm using a Kingston G2 reader with a 64gb microsdxc card. I'm really hoping they release a G3 with uhs support soon.. Class 10 is so slow.
The biggest issue I have with "cloud" services is the stupidity of Google Play Music. It'll cache and cache and cache with no limits. Sooner or later, it'll have gobbled up all the storage.
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eksasol said:
^ That's a battery case dude.
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reading comprehension
Sorry didn;t bother to read the rest of your message. Seems interesting, but maybe a bit of work. It's probably better to hope for the Nexus 5 to have OTG support and 32gb.
I was thinking about the Sandisk WiFi flashdrive: http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Connect-Wireless-Flash-SDWS2-032G-E57/dp/B00DBX371C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8
Thank you very much for you help colleagues. I want to ask, is it necessary to have my phone root and different from my original ''rom'' to connect to an external memory?
punish said:
Thank you very much for you help colleagues. I want to ask, is it necessary to have my phone root and different from my original ''rom'' to connect to an external memory?
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Yes because you have to use a custom kernel.
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Yes because you have to use a custom kernel.
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Then you have to put custom rom and this kernel on my phone .
try this instead:
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Conne...&sr=8-1&keywords=sandisk+wireless+flash+drive
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try this instead:
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Conne...&sr=8-1&keywords=sandisk+wireless+flash+drive
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Big gotcha with Wireless flash storage - when you connect to the wireless storage, you give up access to the cell network or other wifi you were using for data. Thus, you have to choose - data or storage. You can't have both.
Best solution to add 8gb more memory to a Nexus 4 is to get rid of the Nexus 4 and get a phone with more memory.
Hello colleagues, I finally decided to flash rum on my Nexus, but I do not rely ANSWER (micro usb flash memory). Can you tell me what you would read my phone or who put my rоm with any kernel?
Hi. I have SGN 10.1 2014 standard wifi version with 16gb memory. I expanded it by ext sd 32gb card. When I check internal memory device shows me 5gb free out of 16. Detailed search shows that Android folder takes 2,3 gb other folders 0,6 gb....... I moved almost all apps to external sd. So where in the hell is 8gb of internal sd memory. Could someonn explain it to me....but please in simple way.
You cant move large games to external memory and also make sure any files youdo have i.e. movies or other downloads have actually been placed to your EXTSD.
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Well thats not really true. If you are rooted you can use folder mount which will do the job nicely. If not rooted then no you cannot move large files.
actually I have not so many apps installed at all and only one game (pinball)
Something is strange with this memory
Geordie Affy said:
You cant move large games to external memory and also make sure any files youdo have i.e. movies or other downloads have actually been placed to your EXTSD.
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Please post the storage section in your settings.
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I know this one same thing happened to me. Download storage analyzer and you can see the real numbers don't know why but it doesn't show the right numbers.
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Duly.noted said:
I know this one same thing happened to me. Download storage analyzer and you can see the real numbers don't know why but it doesn't show the right numbers.
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Mine has always been accurate and never had to download any extra apps.
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Try running Disk Usage (free in the Play Store) which will give you a detailed breakdown of what is stored where. I've found it very useful for tracking down what is taking up all the space.
Inernal memory is partitioned
mjasinsk said:
Could someonn explain it to me....but please in simple way.
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The issue is that the internal memory is partitioned and twhat is here called sd-card only get a part of it. The biggest other part is the system partition where Android and all the internal apps are stored. Therefore you only have this small amount of free memory.
Solution: None. Okay, you can root your device and then with some tricks integrate the external sd-card into your internal one but this is all not perfect and needs always a very fast sd-card.
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Hi. I have SGN 10.1 2014 standard wifi version with 16gb memory. I expanded it by ext sd 32gb card. When I check internal memory device shows me 5gb free out of 16. Detailed search shows that Android folder takes 2,3 gb other folders 0,6 gb....... I moved almost all apps to external sd. So where in the hell is 8gb of internal sd memory. Could someonn explain it to me....but please in simple way.
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I returned mine for a 32 model. If you can i would recommend doing so.
Woody
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mjasinsk said:
actually I have not so many apps installed at all and only one game (pinball)
Something is strange with this memory
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Do you have a lot of music on Google play? and did you happen to download them to your tablet?How about a movie they take up tons of space. You should run Disk Usage mentioned in post #8.
I have a 32 gb SM-P600, learned my lesson with my 16gb GT-N8013. I had to root and install folder mount on the GT-N8013 to get by.
Ok thx. Disk usage helpd me to clean up some folders. Some magazines took hundreds of megabytes of memory. Right now i have 8gb of free mem
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Do you have a lot of music on Google play? and did you happen to download them to your tablet?How about a movie they take up tons of space. You should run Disk Usage mentioned in post #8.
I have a 32 gb SM-P600, learned my lesson with my 16gb GT-N8013. I had to root and install folder mount on the GT-N8013 to get by.
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