It's probably been asked before, but I couldn't find it with a search, so here goes:
The recent Nexus 7 announcement with LTE capability on Verizon got me thinking about how Verizon treats its LTE since Google forced some open network agreement concerning the LTE bands Verizon is using. I'm assuming that Verizon won't sell the Nexus 7 and that you'll have to buy it from Google, then get an LTE SIM card from Verizon separately.
So, would it work to open a tablet line for LTE data only on Verizon and put the SIM card into a Nexus 4, then flash whatever tweaks are needed to get the LTE up and running? I know how to get VoIP and ToIP, so I really wouldn't need the 2G network.
no because verizon doesnt use the lte band that the nexus 4 can.
paul_viado said:
no because verizon doesnt use the lte band that the nexus 4 can.
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The Nexus 4 supports band 4 LTE (1700 MHz), yes? Verizon purchased 1700 spectrum a while back to use to help expand its LTE network. So, theoretically, when the 1700 MHz Verizon LTE comes out, would it work?
Will the international note 3 work on both gsm networks for att & tmobile hspa+ network?
I don't use lte but would be nice if I can switch between those networks and still have hspa+ speed, similar to how my Xperia z works.
I travel a lot so having gsm compatibility is extremely beneficial
Thanks
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snoopycr said:
Will the international note 3 work on both gsm networks for att & tmobile hspa+ network?
I don't use lte but would be nice if I can switch between those networks and still have hspa+ speed, similar to how my Xperia z works.
I travel a lot so having gsm compatibility is extremely beneficial
Thanks
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For the Note3 N9000 the supported bands for UMTS/HDSPA are 850/900/1900/2100. These bands will work well on AT&T's 3G network, unfortunately, will not work on T-mobile's network except for the few places where T-mobile has activated their new 1900 MHz frequency at.
I am a little confused about some information I found on Verizon's Note 3 Page. It says that the Note 3 will be a CDMA phone but then lists the following bands:
CDMA Data – 1x and EVDO Rev0/RevA
LTE: B13 (700MHz)
Global Ready (GSM/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900; HSPA/UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz)
(original link: http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...t&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=7194)
Does it mean that if sim-unlocked, it can be used internationally, and how, if it doesn't take a sim card? If it can be used internationally, I would much rather buy a Verizon (for the US) instead of AT&T. I use AT&T only because it's a GSM carrier.
I don't have the answer but I can recommend you to contact Samsung wireless. They certainly have much more credibility.
Good luck
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All Verizon 4G LTE devices take SIM cards. They have to, since LTE is based on GSM. Also, historically, Verizon doesn't carrier-lock the LTE/HSPA/GSM part of their 4G LTE phones, so SIM cards from other carriers will work in a Verizon LTE phone out of the box.
incisivekeith said:
I am a little confused about some information I found on Verizon's Note 3 Page. It says that the Note 3 will be a CDMA phone but then lists the following bands:
CDMA Data – 1x and EVDO Rev0/RevA
LTE: B13 (700MHz)
Global Ready (GSM/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900; HSPA/UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz)
(original link: http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...t&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=7194)
Does it mean that if sim-unlocked, it can be used internationally, and how, if it doesn't take a sim card? If it can be used internationally, I would much rather buy a Verizon (for the US) instead of AT&T. I use AT&T only because it's a GSM carrier.
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I found the answer here, by the Answerer #2. The 4G/Data part of a global ready phone is GSM compatible, and only that part can be locked for data internationally; the calling part will still depend on CDMA in other countries. If that information is accurate, I will stick to an AT&T Note 3.
darkkterror said:
All Verizon 4G LTE devices take SIM cards. They have to, since LTE is based on GSM. Also, historically, Verizon doesn't carrier-lock the LTE/HSPA/GSM part of their 4G LTE phones, so SIM cards from other carriers will work in a Verizon LTE phone out of the box.
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Truth be told. LTE has more in command with CDMA in terms of radio/air interfaces. It covered within 3GPP standards (GSM then EDGE, the UMTS, HSDPA, etc). Rather than 3GPP2 for CDMA1x and EVDO. That's why Alcatel Lucent had a leg up on LTE since its deployment is more akin (specterally) to CDMA. But they dropped the ball, and except for the US and Some Asian markets, the rest of the world has 3GPP based networks deployed.
the Simple version, is LTE is not directly compatible with any 2G/3G technology, but since its covered in 3GPP, the standards evolved quicker to ensure GSM/EDGE/HSDPA interworking.
And beyond that.. what most people dont know, that interworking doesnt really work that widespread yet. In the US most mobile handsets operate on dual frequencies (especially all VzW models, ATT models are catching up) so they effectively talk CDMA1x and LTE at the same time. iPhones do not support that capability, but GSM has work arounds to allow talk+data.
i'll go back to me hole now
(btw.. anyone with iOS7 and ATT.. what out you've got problems you dont know about when going back forth from 3G to 4G.. I know since at work we talked about how to fix it..
I believe a rumor was that it has the same LTE baseband chip as the iphone 5s so that you could potentially use the Verizon version on AT&T and T-mobile...any truth to that?
incisivekeith said:
I found the answer here, by the Answerer #2. The 4G/Data part of a global ready phone is GSM compatible, and only that part can be locked for data internationally; the calling part will still depend on CDMA in other countries. If that information is accurate, I will stick to an AT&T Note 3.
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Not true, I put a T-Mobile SIM in my Verizon Note 2 and made calls, sent texts, and used data on GPRS, EDGE, and HSPA+.
geoff5093 said:
Not true, I put a T-Mobile SIM in my Verizon Note 2 and made calls, sent texts, and used data on GPRS, EDGE, and HSPA+.
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I have also done it with an ATT sim on my Verizon note 2.
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geoff5093 said:
Not true, I put a T-Mobile SIM in my Verizon Note 2 and made calls, sent texts, and used data on GPRS, EDGE, and HSPA+.
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mchlwvr614 said:
I have also done it with an ATT sim on my Verizon note 2.
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Nice! Was this native to the stock Rom or is a custom one needed that has this ability "unlocked"?
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Nice! Was this native to the stock Rom or is a custom one needed that has this ability "unlocked"?
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Stock rom, rooted to allow apn editing.
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Global-ready is basically verizon's way of saying that it has a GSM 3G radio as well as a CDMA radio. That allows the phone to operate in Europe where there is no CDMA service. You can purchase international service from Verizon, or purchase a SIM from a European carrier while overseas. All verizon 4G phones have a GSM 4G radio anyway, because LTE is GSM.
(This means that with an LTE carrier in Europe, any 4G Verizon phone can get data in Europe even if they can't place voice calls (VoIP still possible)).
If I am not wrong with what I am saying, Verizon LTE phones only support LTE BAND: 13, which means that IF you are willing to use 4G with different carrier, they have to support LTE band 13. I have tried to use my Verizon Galaxy Note 2 in South Korea, I was only able to use 3G network via WCDMA, I wasn't able to get LTE service at all. Correct me if I am wrong.
HecAtic said:
If I am not wrong with what I am saying, Verizon LTE phones only support LTE BAND: 13, which means that IF you are willing to use 4G with different carrier, they have to support LTE band 13. I have tried to use my Verizon Galaxy Note 2 in South Korea, I was only able to use 3G network via WCDMA, I wasn't able to get LTE service at all. Correct me if I am wrong.
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the different N3 variants due in fact support different LTE bands, so you are correct. Minor point not worth nitpicking from earlier post, GSM is not LTE. they both evolved from the same 3GPP standards body, but portions spread spectrum nature of LTE is more similar to CDMA than GSM.
I went to Korea last October, and they wouldn't allow prepaid 4g LTE. They would only allow 3G for prepaid service.
I had a note 2 rooted and custom rom when I went. I'm a US citizen and you have to wait about 2-3 days before you are allowed to sign up for any plan on what they told me.
My question is does Verizon Note 3 support LTE band 4? And I know what Verizon LTE band 4 should be compatible with the T-mobile LTE band 4 does that mean if Verizon Note 3 if support LTE band 4 and it will get LTE on T-mobile?
Thanks ahead.
Several users in the update thread who say they live in AWS areas are still seeing the same speeds as the old software (MI9)
So the verizon note 3 doesnt have band 4 enabled? I wanted to get it for use on tmobile lte since I was getting a good deal on it. Any info would be appreciated.
I do not see it is enabled on I9 firmware, maybe it will be enabled on later update.
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If I can get this phone under 500 no contract.. but my main purpose is to use it on tmobile LTE.. should i buy it?
No, I think you shouldn't buy it, because if you can't use the T-mobile 4G then it is not worth it.
I guess I wont be buying it. Thanks for the insight. If anyone finds out anything about tmobile 4g LTE on this model let me know
Please I'd love to upgrade from H+ to 4G speeds on my new Note 3. I saw this was possible for the Note 1... any chance this is possible for the Note 3?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note/general/unlock-lte-bands-step-step-xiaomi-mi-t3084774
Apparently it does. Great news.
http://en.miui.com/thread-234625-1-1.html
Confirmed my carrier uses that frequency for lte and I indeed get LTE. This phone is killer.