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Reminiscent of my Diamond, when actively using the HD for a prolonged period, the battery area heats up almost as much as on the Diamond (plus I swear I just noticed a little screen dimming/flicker on it a short while ago - exactly as my Diamond does!)
It's not something that, on it's own, bothers me enough to attempt a re-flash (on the diamond anyway, given I'm not really very au fait with such things and really don't want to brick it...) but something I know was addressed in some of the cooked ROM's for that - so I guess you guys want to hear about issues with the HD/Blackstone as well.
This happened on my old Kaiser too, often if it was being used as a GPS for any prolonged period - it seems to be an issue with the Qualcomm chipset, and it's pretty shameful that it's still occuring on brand new devices. I don't think it's very healthy at all - overheating like this could easily shorten the lives of other electronic components even if the chip itself can take it, and it will be bad (potentially even dangerous) for the battery as well. There's some very poor hardware design going on here somewhere.
This also happens on my asus p750, so i think it is normal that devices get hot when you use gps or hsdpa.
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I agree this phenomen only occur using GPS.
But happens on all the hTC device with builtin GPS like Cruise,Dimond and now Blackstone.Don't know is this very healthy for the device.
Well I hate to say it, but my iPhone never runs hot, despite having a faster processor inside. It's not good enough to say "it's fast so of course it gets hot" - they could have put a Core 2 Duo in there and that'd be really fast, but it would also catch fire after a couple of minutes. The trick with mobile processors is to make them run fast enough, and cool enough, to do the job safely and well - and I think HTC (or perhaps Qualcomm) are pushing that margin too far, somewhere along the line.
Make no mistake, everytime it overheats like that, it's having a big knock on effect on your battery's health, and on the lifespan of various other components inside.
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Alright man, I can't judge it yet, since I won't get mine till tomorrow. But what you are saying here is simply .... well strange.
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Not strange, just common sense. Every component has an operating temperature range, and the closer it gets to the top of that range, the more strain it's being put under.
You seriously think that HTC puts out devices, that they haven't tested for operating within a safe temperature range?
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No, of course not, they have to gain FCC approval after all. They'll be within safe ranges, and there'll be a designed-in behaviours for when those ranges are exceeded (eg immediate shutdown), but that doesn't mean these are the best possible hardware designs or that these operating temperatures are particularly healthy for the device's longevity, it just means they aren't going to explode. Probably.
I really don't think unless the back of the device doesn't get REALLY HOT, that this will influence the device lifetime in any way.
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"REALLY HOT" is a pretty subjective measurement - I'd say my Kaiser did get "REALLY HOT" on some occasions, and there was an immediate influence on the device's behaviour like apparent battery drain when this happened. I wasn't alone in experiencing it either. As far as its longer lifetime goes, then of course it has an effect. The battery chemistry in particular is very sensitive to temperature extremes.
I got a T60p notebook, which runs very warm under load. If you put your hand on its back you feel it's really, really warm there. That notebook runs absolutely fine for 3 years now. No problems what so ever.
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That's a notebook - it has an active cooling system that draws cooler air over the surrounding components, and vents hotter air out the side. More than that it's also much larger with much more space in and around the components to allow the heat to dissipate. Phones like the Touch HD have none of that - not even a sidevent let alone a fan, and zero empty space inside - meaning pretty much 100% of that excess heat is being absorbed by all the other components. Not healthy, and not good hardware design - there's a reason why your T60p would never have been designed that way.
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Well I hate to say it, but my iPhone never runs hot, despite having a faster processor inside.
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if you do a search online you will find out that apple downclocked a perfectly good 667MHz cpu to 400 MHz. On top of that, the reason it runs cool and seemingly running fast is because it's 400MHz for only one program (there is no multitasking, except core applications that came with apple). Also iphone's GPS doesn't update as fast I blieve 1Hz, instead of 5Hz.
ah yes - foolish apple for underclocking that chip and producing a phone which runs perfectly cool, and still faster than any WM device I've ever used. If only they used overstretched Qualcomm chips instead, eh ?)
Say what you like about the Iphone, but the Qualcomm processors HTC have wedded themselves to are junk, plain and simple.
As for the GPS and multitasking - well the GPS seems to be far more sensitive to movement than my old Tytn II was so I doubt what you say is true, but if it is then clearly HTC's hardware advantage is getting lost somewhere in poor software. Multitasking - well the iPhone multitasks as much as my kaiser ever did, given that I was always precious about closing background apps down anyway to save battery life and memory - the iPhone still does it's phone thing in the background of whatever I'm doing, still plays music while I write an email, all that kind of stuff - and it's still much, much faster at doing anything than the kaiser ever was, despite the "same" 400mhz processor.
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ah yes - foolish apple for underclocking that chip and producing a phone which runs perfectly cool, and still faster than any WM device I've ever used. If only they used overstretched Qualcomm chips instead, eh ?)
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Didn't you read what he said? iPhone doesn't multitask anything like the HD or other WM devices for that matter.
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Didn't you read what he said? iPhone doesn't multitask anything like the HD or other WM devices for that matter.
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I read every word. Maybe you should have read what I said?
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Multitasking - well the iPhone multitasks as much as my kaiser ever did, given that I was always precious about closing background apps down anyway to save battery life and memory - the iPhone still does it's phone thing in the background of whatever I'm doing, still plays music while I write an email, all that kind of stuff - and it's still much, much faster at doing anything than the kaiser ever was, despite the "same" 400mhz processor.
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Still i dont understand why you people worry about longivity, since is more likely you're gonna change the phone to the 2nd-3rd newer model availabe, if not the next one.
The devices get hot because they offer so many features (eg multitasking) and I am sure they would run within specs. So far I havent heard anyone saying that any HTC device caught fire.
btw iPhone sucks!!! Unless you want a toy, WM devices are mostly business oriented even though they do most of the things that iPhones do.
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Still i dont understand why you people worry about longivity, since is more likely you're gonna change the phone to the 2nd-3rd newer model availabe, if not the next one.
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Plus htc give you a 2 year warranty.
For the past 4 weeks I had HTC send me 2 replacement batteries and T-mobile sent me two replacement phones (one with a new battery), and my phone still overheats (over 100 degrees).
I swaping all my microsdhc and even took it out, and did notsolve the problem either.
The only thing left is the Sim card. Is it possible for a sim card to cause this? This is getting extremely frustrating.
The good thing is both HTC and TMobile have been really understanding, if not...I would be on other carrier with a different phone.
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The sim is just a storage chip with a tiny amount of data on.. it doesn't actively do anything. It must be caused by something else.. is your phone overheating while charging or connected by usb, or does it happen all the time?
Only when I use the phone (talk, gps, edge, or wifi...FYI, I'm only running one at a time) it overheats.
Anyway, I just got my new sim and the back looks differnet than the one I got in November.
I have to say my phone runs cooler w/o the sim.
If you want to monitor the temp of your phone, download the Y-mobile "My Account" from the market, and check the battery status.
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My phone is always over 100 degrees F, right now it's 102 and reaches over 112 easily
It seems pretty normal to me, the phone never shuts off or anything
My biggest regret is how slow this stupid thing is, you figure it being able to cook eggs would mean it's got some nice horsepower but this thing makes me wish I waited for the new palm OS
My phone is always over 100 degrees F, right now it's 102 and reaches over 112 easily
It seems pretty normal to me, the phone never shuts off or anything
My biggest regret is how slow this stupid thing is, you figure it being able to cook eggs would mean it's got some nice horsepower but this thing makes me wish I waited for the new palm OS
It also LOVES to double post as you can see
That's a triple post.....
Nah, I made that last post afterwards I didn't edit the post, although I wouldn't be surprised to hit a triple or even the elusive "super-quad" with this dumb thing
same problem here
I was going through the same thing. I mostly ran into this when I was using my fone as a thether. I kinda got worried so I contacted tmo andhtc and they said that it will get hot like that because of the wifi running as well as my screen never timing out. To top it all I was tethering through the usb. So it easly ran up to 115F. When it got that high I would jus bull out the battery and leave the back off for about 5 mins. If u run into this issue while ur fone is doing little or no activity then worry but if ur using data or multiple apps at once then its no biggie.
Aw jeez, I went to check setcpu and my post went bye bye
So a high temp all the time ISN'T normal?
I got:
JF 1.51 ADP
SetCPU 128/528
Advanced Task Manager, and I tend to keep everything killed besides aHome and Better Keyboard
I don't see any problems besides it giving me third degree burns and setting whatever I place it on on fire, goes slow hot or cold too
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128/528 is a big jump, why not use default 384/528? Might help some of your performance issues.
Just a thought.
I thought it scaled itself accordingly and only went to 128 when I'm not running anything or the screen's off to save battery?
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I thought it scaled itself accordingly and only went to 128 when I'm not running anything or the screen's off to save battery?
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It doesnt scale instantly.. cyanogen's done some init.rc mods to help this in his newer builds but theres always a reaction time between opening an app and the speed ramping up.
My properly configured g1 is pretty damn fast for a mobile device.. It sounds like you're ranting on about a problem you caused through lack of research. Good work.
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... makes me wish I waited for the new palm OS
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What new palmOS?
PalmOS is dead and isn't coming back unless someone picks up Access Linux (which is said to have a palmOS Garnet 6 VM only for legacy palmOS support), but that doesn't seem likely as they've been pushing it as stable for years and have yet to sell it to anybody. It is now also pointless to support legacy palmos apps since *virtually nobody* has been developing for that platform since it died a few years ago.
This new thing that palm is selling... is not palmos. Its "webos" and is basically what apple phone v1 was and what chromeos sounds like it will be... i.e. no locally installed apps (except phone stuff) - all apps are net apps.
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The sim is just a storage chip with a tiny amount of data on.. it doesn't actively do anything.
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While I doubt it's the cause of the overheating, SIM chips are more than just passive storage. They do contain processors and can perform calculations (one of the main functions of SIMs in phones is to provide cryptographic computation for network access.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_card
My phone only gets warm when I'm tethering, charging or downloading large files over 3G.
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It doesnt scale instantly.. cyanogen's done some init.rc mods to help this in his newer builds but theres always a reaction time between opening an app and the speed ramping up.
My properly configured g1 is pretty damn fast for a mobile device.. It sounds like you're ranting on about a problem you caused through lack of research. Good work.
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I actually leave my house now and then, so I rely on people like you to help me while throwing in a snotty comment at the end with these kinds of things because they bore me GOOD WORK THANKS
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What new palmOS?
PalmOS is dead and isn't coming back unless someone picks up Access Linux (which is said to have a palmOS Garnet 6 VM only for legacy palmOS support), but that doesn't seem likely as they've been pushing it as stable for years and have yet to sell it to anybody. It is now also pointless to support legacy palmos apps since *virtually nobody* has been developing for that platform since it died a few years ago.
This new thing that palm is selling... is not palmos. Its "webos" and is basically what apple phone v1 was and what chromeos sounds like it will be... i.e. no locally installed apps (except phone stuff) - all apps are net apps.
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Oh for real? The hell with that, I'll take android's poopified linux over that junk any day
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I actually leave my house now and then, so I rely on people like you to help me while throwing in a snotty comment at the end with these kinds of things because they bore me GOOD WORK THANKS
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Ha. Snotty comments are the price you pay for getting help from geeks.
Enjoy the outside world.. I'll just sit here getting progressively more pale-skinned and bitter as I cry into my coffee about my ever worsening social isolation, dolefully masturbating into an old sock over thoughts of the ladies nipples I'll never see. Because that's what we do.
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I actually leave my house now and then, so I rely on people like you to help me while throwing in a snotty comment at the end with these kinds of things because they bore me GOOD WORK THANKS
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The snide comments are like little genuine seal of approvals that guarantee a real certified geek posted your reply. Let's compare a certified geek reply with an off-brand imposter:
The question:
I just upgraded from JF to Cyanogen but my G1 won't boot past the loading screen. HELP!
Geek Reply:
Reboot into recovery and wipe. And learn to search; this problem has been posted in the FAQ and many previous threads. Also I hope you get hit by a bus so the average aggregate human intelligence increases. <-- unbearably high pretentiousness authenticates the quality of the Geek reply.
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Non-geek reply:
Lulz i had dis problem to. I just thru my laem g1 away and got iphone 3G!
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Overheating
My phone got up to 102 once. It was from having it set at 583 MHz constant. I took it out of my pocket and almost dropped it because it was hot. Also as someone said earlier, it gets very hot while tethering. Any prolonged data use will cause it to heat up. I don't think it's really anything to worry about though. I'd imagine that it would cut off before any sort of damage could occur
so I have done some research and found nothing on this topic. I may be going on a limb here but I really would like to know if it is at all possible to swap out a CPU from our touch HD phones with another one? not shooting too high for something like a snapdragon, but something a bit faster maybe?!?!?
I know it might sound crazy but its worth the inquiry. It might not even be possible at all, considering the processor might be imbedded into the motherboard.. I really dont know the inside of a smartphone and i would like to maybe clear up things in that area. I have taken apart and built complete laptops, and desktops, but have never thought of modding a smartphone.
What do you guys think? Im very interested in these responses.
its not possible for the processor is soldered in the board and just in case you happen to remove it it might burn the board or just in case you successfully removed it, what processor would you like to put and is it supported by the blackstone board?
well it was just a thought to get some more speed and to test the limits of modifying our phones. Maybe if it fit, I would swap out all together the processor and board from another faster qualcomm setup
Not physically possible.
But you can always overclock your HD.
COMMUNITY IS ALL ABOUT SHARING, AND I HAVE SOME GREAT NEWS TO SHARE WITH MY FRIENDS HERE ON XDA!!
I've have a 32GB Nexus 9 LTE for almost 2 years now, and she's been great, but, as most folks here will understand, I WANTED MORE RAM!! I picked up a Pixel C a month ago, and decided it was time to give the RAM upgrade a shot. Since I have the Pixel, if the worst happened during the upgrade attempt it wouldn't be the end of the world.
WELL, IT WORKED!!
I am working on a video tutorial, but wanted to share the good news with everyone!!
While I wouldn't describe my N9 as "laggy", it most definitely had it's bottleneck issues, especially on RAM intensive tasks like Chrome w/ multiple tabs open. Luckily, the LPDDR3 module is not stacked on the SoC in a SoP configuration . . THANK GOD TOO!! Because 2GB of RAM on a CPU this beastly is like putting a 100mph governor on an Indy Car. It took me a while, but I was FINALLY able to snag a 32Gb (514Mb x x64) single module (That's 4GB BTW). It's not that I couldn't find the right module; what held me back was waiting for Samsung to release the single module 64Gb (8GB) 253-Ball VFBGA LPDDR3. The Tegra K1 supports up to 8GB of LPDDR3 or DDR3L, but since the Nexus 9's board is built with support for a single VFBGA RAM module, you only have support for one. I got impatient and went with a 4GB module. The module is 1866MHz, but it runs at 1600MHz, so I don't think the K1 supports higher than 1600MHz (800MHz x 2), but I could be wrong. I didn't wanna push my luck with such an invasive upgrade, so I didn't look into pushing it to its rated 1866MHz. Besides, the stock module is 1600MHz anyway, and that's plenty fast for what I'm using my N9 for. I know it supports DDR3L, but I didn't wanna create compatibility insanity, so I played it safe, sticking with the exact same module brand (Elpida/Micron), type (LPDDR3), speed (800MHz x 2), and package size (VFBGA 253-Ball), but with a higher density (512Mb x x64 = 32Gb, or, 4GB). After removing the stock module, and careful placement and reflow, I was kinda surprised when I turned it on and it just worked. Not that I expected a problem, but y'all know how it goes. :fingers-crossed:
Props to Nvidia for an extremely flexible SoC. :good:
*(I will put the module details below if anyone wants to do what I did and upgrade their N9's RAM)*
After the upgrade, I decided to address the Tegra's heat issues. Long ago, I deduced that the cooling solution was lacking, if even there at all. So while I had her opened up, I spread some MX-4 between the SoC and an extremely thin copper square which acts as a heat-sink. Then I used a teeny-tiny vapor chamber heat pipe that was originally attached to a VRM cooler on a busted SuperMicro server board. After welding the heat pipe onto the copper plate, I cut out a small hole in the back cover and connected the condensing side of the heat pipe to a small, flat flat-finned VRM heat-sink. The heat pipe is obnoxiously long, so I had to get kinda creative with the spacing. I did consider using a teeny-tiny fan, but that seemed like overkill lol, not to mention the reduction in battery life. I made a small vented cover, but there is a noticeable bump on the rear cover, but with my case on it, and the fact that it's almost always on a stand, it hasn't been an issue.
Now, with a REAL cooling solution in place, I was able to use flar2's overclocking options on his kernel via his EX Kernel Manager app. With the CPU at 2.5GHz (up from 2.3GHz stock), and the GPU at 984MHz (up from 852MHz stock), along with several other tweaks, she has been AMAZING ever since, with zero lag, zero random reboots, etc. With fsync disabled, I consistently score between 120,000 and 130,000 on Antutu, depending on governor settings. I couldn't really push her prior to the cooling solution without some major throttling, but those days are OVER!! I don't know why Google/HTC didn't at least use SOMETHING as a cooling solution. Even a small thermal dissipation pad and a little piece of vented copper would've been more than enough to keep the throttling at bay. Not Nvidia's fault, I'm assuming their specs call for a specific Tcase for proper functionality, and I guess they didn't push her all that hard in the testing phase.
I'm working on a video tutorial & step by step guide for the RAM upgrade and the cooling solution, so if that's something you'd wanna do to your N9 (and if you're good with micro repair, I absolutely think you should do it!), I should have it up on the N9 forum by mid-week.
* The module I replaced the stock 16Gb (2GB) with is made by Micron/Elpida. The product number is:
- MT52L512M64D4PQ-107 WT -
There is another module with a VERY SIMILAR product number, with the same specs, but different BGA mounting & ball count: MT52L512M64D4GN-107 WT. I actually made this mistake and assumed the module was VFBGA, but it's actually WFVGA (256-Ball), and the voltage loop-back logic pads are NOT compatible with the N9's VFBGA module pads. Just stay away from any module that ends in 'GN' and you'll be alright.
I'm highly anticipating your video and this is absolutely fantastic news! I have 2 questions for you however since I'll be a little new on this installation:
1. Was the RAM module that was made from Samsung released? If yes is there a way to order it? I highly believe that with 8gb of LPDDR3 this tablet has a huge potential for future proofing and will eliminate the need to buy a tablet for a long long time.
2. Are there any specific tools or equipment I need to buy in order to follow your installation?
I'm highly looking forward to your reply and thank you so much for the upcoming guide.
Following....
Looking forward for that video.
I'm quite excited!!
4/8G on a tablet!!!
When is that 8G chip coming out?
https://www.avnet.com/shop/us/p/mt5...5626301278?CMP=EMA_Octopart_inventoryfeed_VSE right? Where did you get yours ?
I seriously doubt that 8gb would bring anything more comparing with 4gb. I think the main bottleneck is cpu architecture. It's very strange that 2 strong cores stutter more than some 8 core cpus. Nvidia doesn't have as large experience with cpus and has made mistakes, while it has largest exps with gpu.
Firstly, let me say, well done. :highfive:
Someone had to do it and you were brave enough to put your money on the line. Respect.
Any idea how you upgrade performs compared to a standard Nexus 9? It would be cool if you could get another and do a side by side test.
A part of me wishes you could have just upgraded the RAM and compared to a standard Nexus 9 as we will never know which of your upgrades has the biggest effect.
Just wanted to give everyone a quick update.
Work has been sucking up all of my time, but I have the day off tomorrow so I should be able to get the guide/tutorial up by the end of the weekend.
She's still running wonderfully, however I did decide to go the itty-bitty fan route just to see if there was a difference, and sure enough, I got my idle temp hovering around 30C - 35C, so I may add a step for an optional fan installation. I found a super slim battery pack and a 5V Raspberry Pi fan and it worked like a charm. I just need to figure out a way to tidy up the wiring.
Anyhoo, happy Saturday, and stay tuned!
Can we order these from somewhere? Everywhere i looked have zero in stock.
Looking forward for the video tutorial. While I do not have a tablet replacement for mine, I will still do this!
The thing I'm most worried about is flashing the firmware back to the new chip.
Things I think I'll need .
#1 A tool that can read and write to the chip so we can backup or restore.(those tools cost like 100$+)
#2 soldering iron or something to detach and reattach the chip.
PS. I'm really looking for that 8G ram chip.
I will need to compile a new kernel to support more than 4G but that's no problem.
This memory eMMC NAND Flash chip KLMCG8GEAC-B001-BGA-64GB seems to be similar to ours. Just curious will this one fits? :fingers-crossed:
Maybe Need4Sneed broke his tablet.
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Maybe Need4Sneed broke his tablet.
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Maybe...
Marky__Mark said:
Maybe Need4Sneed broke his tablet.
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Or maybe he doesn't have the time to make the video yet because he's busy with life. Let's wait and see. I'm optimistic nonetheless because in the case that happens he could have said it earlier and this thread would have been closed .
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Or maybe he doesn't have the time to make the video yet because he's busy with life. Let's wait and see. I'm optimistic nonetheless because in the case that happens he could have said it earlier and this thread would have been closed .
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Maybe, maybe not. Im interested in this too, but Ill believe it when I see it.
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Maybe, maybe not. Im interested in this too, but Ill believe it when I see it.
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I'm with you 100% on that . Let's assume the best in either case scenario.
It seems that it is not as easy as the author tells us.
And I doubt that he has something that works, or he did at least what he writes about.
Vartom said:
It seems that it is not as easy as the author tells us.
And I doubt that he has something that works, or he did at least what he writes about.
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He probably broke his tablet installing that fan and who knows what else.
But it would a dream, upgrading this tablet to 4g ram and 64 gb storage,.. Too good to be true...
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At the very least, this guy can at least tell us where he got his.
@Need4Sneed
Are things ok?
Playing Genshin impact on max settings makes my phone uncomfortably hot... as in borderline "ouch!" hot. A bit like accidentally leaving your phone in direct sunlight.
GPU and CPU temps both reach near 80c after around 10 minutes (this is without a case, and ambient around 68F).
Is this something I should worry about for extended play or are these devices able to handle that kind of heat?
Needless to say I'm going to tune it back a bit in the meantime lol
The phone will tell you when it's too hot for operating.
Personally my phone when left overnight will drop to anything as low as 25c which rivals my PC.
Flicking about on the web and using light apps like XDA, Google etc my phone runs about 32-38
Gaming it'll be in the 40s if light, 50s if heavy.
Anything over that you're heating the whole phone, including the battery, eventually the CPU / GPU will throttle.
I think 60s is as high as I'd like to have it, anything more and you will develop issues faster than a person who doesn't do this to their phone will.
Time x heat= death
It's up to you how fast you want that to happen.
My advice, play for shorter times, lower screen resolution to FHD if you haven't already, 60hz will prolong the time it takes to get warmer and will cool more efficiently.
Ultimately there's not a lot you can do.
If you plan to game a lot, you should be fine, but it will degrade the phone over time.
PA: personally I don't trust genshin. Feels like it has too many permissions and frankly I don't trust it. Can you play it completely offline? They may help if so
Here's one of a few thread discussions about heat
dladz said:
The phone will tell you when it's too hot for operating.
Personally my phone when left overnight will drop to anything as low as 25c which rivals my PC.
Flicking about on the web and using light apps like XDA, Google etc my phone runs about 32-38
Gaming it'll be in the 40s if light, 50s if heavy.
Anything over that you're heating the whole phone, including the battery, eventually the CPU / GPU will throttle.
I think 60s is as high as I'd like to have it, anything more and you will develop issues faster than a person who doesn't do this to their phone will.
Time x heat= death
It's up to you how fast you want that to happen.
My advice, play for shorter times, lower screen resolution to FHD if you haven't already, 60hz will prolong the time it takes to get warmer and will cool more efficiently.
Ultimately there's not a lot you can do.
If you plan to game a lot, you should be fine, but it will degrade the phone over time.
PA: personally I don't trust genshin. Feels like it has too many permissions and frankly I don't trust it. Can you play it completely offline? They may help if so
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Thank you for the insight man. I'll def try 60hz FHD since the game locks at a high of 60fps anyways. Not looking to destroy my phone anytime soon, that's for sure!
To tell you the truth I don't trust Genshin either, and unfortunately it's an online only game. Has anyone ever figured out a way to spoof permissions on an app? That would be great for less trustworthy apps.
I guess at times I feel like I'm secure because I'm using adaway with some good comprehensive block lists that also block tracking servers, malware, etc. But I'm sure theres a lot more to it than that.
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Thank you for the insight man. I'll def try 60hz FHD since the game locks at a high of 60fps anyways. Not looking to destroy my phone anytime soon, that's for sure!
To tell you the truth I don't trust Genshin either, and unfortunately it's an online only game. Has anyone ever figured out a way to spoof permissions on an app? That would be great for less trustworthy apps.
I guess at times I feel like I'm secure because I'm using adaway with some good comprehensive block lists that also block tracking servers, malware, etc. But I'm sure theres a lot more to it than that.
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No worries man, thing with that game is it looks great, kind of like breath of the wild mixed with dark souls, but the online thing is ridiculous.. why ? It's a single player for the most part right?
Could suppose crack it, but that would take some talent to achieve.
Just keep an eye on your temps when gaming, should be fine..gaming mode seems to help a bit.
Be nice to get an active cooler for the phone.
Do you play without a case?
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No worries man, thing with that game is it looks great, kind of like breath of the wild mixed with dark souls, but the online thing is ridiculous.. why ? It's a single player for the most part right?
Could suppose crack it, but that would take some talent to achieve.
Just keep an eye on your temps when gaming, should be fine..gaming mode seems to help a bit.
Be nice to get an active cooler for the phone.
Do you play without a case?
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Indeed it is mostly a single player game, the online aspect is mostly for the microtransactions I believe.
I would love to get an active cooler for this phone kind of like the ASUS ROG. Do they make one? If not I've had the thought to have someone I know with a 3d printer to create one from scratch. (I'll keep the forum posted if I do)
I've only really had temp issues with Genshin so it's the only game I really take my case off for. I kid you not, it creates more heat than any benchmark I've ever ran.
cubeplayer1 said:
Indeed it is mostly a single player game, the online aspect is mostly for the microtransactions I believe.
I would love to get an active cooler for this phone kind of like the ASUS ROG. Do they make one? If not I've had the thought to have someone I know with a 3d printer to create one from scratch. (I'll keep the forum posted if I do)
I've only really had temp issues with Genshin so it's the only game I really take my case off for. I kid you not, it creates more heat than any benchmark I've ever ran.
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Aye I've downloaded it. Half decent game but that online business just didn't sit right with me..
Have you tried all the emulators??
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Aye I've downloaded it. Half decent game but that online business just didn't sit right with me..
Have you tried all the emulators??
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Yeah especially dolphin emu that one can be a bit of a torture test at times
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Yeah especially dolphin emu that one can be a bit of a torture test at times
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I've not had too many issues on it, Mario kart was the hardest thing I had to run.
What about Redream.
Oh and DIG as a front end.
This is my 8 Pro running it.
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I've not had too many issues on it, Mario kart was the hardest thing I had to run.
What about Redream.
Oh and DIG as a front end.
This is my 8 Pro running it.
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Dude that is way cool! I never knew about front-ends I'm going to have to check that out. And I was just about to look for a dreamcast emu, that was an awesome console back in the day.
@dladz noticed you have a ps2 emu. How is the performance with that and what emu do you run?
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Dude that is way cool! I never knew about front-ends I'm going to have to check that out. And I was just about to look for a dreamcast emu, that was an awesome console back in the day.
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Aye it was, you'll love there's some beauties on it and they all run at a solid 60, phone doesn't come either.
I've underclocked my cores by one notch
Eg: Cluster 1
Stock: min - 1000 max 1800
Tweaked: min - 300 max 1700
Same with the 2 clusters only you can't get to 300, they're 700 + 800 respectively and 100MHz off the top end speeds.
Doesn't affect performance but does lower thermals, have had 11 hours SOT this way with Elemental X, governor was conservative..
Pics in the SOT and EX threads.
I've left instructions to a user on YouTube for installation. It's easier then retroarch.
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@dladz noticed you have a ps2 emu. How is the performance with that and what emu do you run?
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It's the dodgiest emulator in the world, they stole code from another free project then closed their project down.
Several cases ongoing over the last few years.
It's £10 I think, tbh the PS2 wasn't that good. I'd rather just buy the console.
The other PS2 emulators do run but they're slow and unplayable even on the 8 Pro, that damon2 emu is dodgy as anything.
Needs to make calls, see your contacts and be online all the time? I bought it, titanium backed up then refunded it. It does work well enough to play but at what cost.
I'll pass, the games are listed on dig but unplayable at the moment
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It's the dodgiest emulator in the world, they stole code from another free project then closed their project down.
Several cases ongoing over the last few years.
It's £10 I think, tbh the PS2 wasn't that good. I'd rather just buy the console.
The other PS2 emulators do run but they're slow and unplayable even on the 8 Pro, that damon2 emu is dodgy as anything.
Needs to make calls, see your contacts and be online all the time? I bought it, titanium backed up then refunded it. It does work well enough to play but at what cost.
I'll pass, the games are listed on dig but unplayable at the moment
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That blows. Guessing they stole the code from PCSX2 on the PC. I hate when "devs" do that crap.
Dude that takes me back though, I used to use the whole titanium backup, then refund thing wayyy back in the day. Hardly payed for a thing... unless the app was really good Lol
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That blows. Guessing they stole the code from PCSX2 on the PC. I hate when "devs" do that crap.
Dude that takes me back though, I used to use the whole titanium backup, then refund thing wayyy back in the day. Hardly payed for a thing... unless the app was really good Lol
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Yep got it in one. The guys who made those emulators are a talented bunch and they haven't hidden their talent away to profit from it, I have a lot of respect for them and their work so you can imagine my thoughts on the thieves.
And yes I agree If an app is good, of course I'll pay for it, if theres an ad free alternative I'll pay usually..
Have been stung before though.
SPB shell 3D was a crazy launcher which looked awesome at the time.
It was £9.50 and I bought it, now it's been pulled so you can't even install it anymore.
I think the Devs of pcsx2 will probably surpass Damon at some point, but it's an open pot for them to cherry pick what they want, absolutely ruins open source