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IPhone 0 - HTC 1!

Just had to post this somewhere (sorry!)
In all comparison reviews & tests between the Iphone and HTC - they always bring up that Apple has thousands of apps available in their store and WM doesnt. Someone should tell them that there are thousands of applications for Windows Mobile out there - and for free!!
And they are actually usefull stuff, compared to Apples costy gimmicks (which according to
studies people only use once or twice then ditch them).
Spread the word!

Then it's Apple 1 Microsoft 0 for Microsoft's failure to get all these apps into the marketplace where they can be easily accessed and impress the reviewers.
Absolutely no relevance to HTC.

Let's leave it 1-1 then and not start an Apple vs HTC/MS discussion/flamewar again.
Don't think this thread was necessary - but jannen is right when he says "spread the word". Bashing Windows Mobile for no good reason is a recent trend among bloggers that's really sad.

I've just got to say, if most of the WM apps are placed into WM MarketPlace then a large proportion of them won't be free.
Apple makes it easier for consumers by having them all in one place else no one would find anything for the iPhone. Most WM users are quite adept at hunting down useful applications so it doesn't really bother most of the users.

Can people please post links to these so called good apps? As I have searched and found little that I think is nice to look at as what free ones I have seen look like the old BBC game "Elite"
I'm not an XDa Dev boff, have no idea where to look.
Tried to search WM 6.5 apps/widgets/games, HD2 apps, games... all come up with poo apps
Links please? (if allowed, cant see why they wouldnt) and obviously not warez.

cobnut said:
Can people please post links to these so called good apps? As I have searched and found little that I think is nice to look at as what free ones I have seen look like the old BBC game "Elite"
I'm not an XDa Dev boff, have no idea where to look.
Tried to search WM 6.5 apps/widgets/games, HD2 apps, games... all come up with poo apps
Links please? (if allowed, cant see why they wouldnt) and obviously not warez.
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I used to have a BBC and played a lot of Elite. I'd LOVE it if you could get a version for windows mobile!
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DAMNIT!!! I found it on Handango, but it's no longer available
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YES!!!! http://www.eliteppc.com/

jannen said:
Just had to post this somewhere (sorry!)
In all comparison reviews & tests between the Yellow pages and my Outlook- they always bring up that yellow pages has thousands of numbers available in their book and my Outlook doesnt. Someone should tell them that there are thousands of phone numbers for people out there - and for free!!
And they are actually usefull people, compared to Outlooks boring people (which according to
studies people only call once or twice then ditch them).
Spread the word!
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Edited for accuracy. Worst pro WM argument ever!

LOL, me too.
BTW, I just spotted the themes and applications section tit

Sorry
Didnt want to start a war here. Iphone has its merits as does Nokia as does many other phones. We all have a phone we love, mine is WM.
Just dont think its fair Windows Mobile gets bad rep for not having apps available, which is not true. There are many out there and most are free. If they were put to a marketplace... well, obviosly they wouldnt be free...
Sorry if I upset any... (think you guys are still cool! this is still the best forum)

jannen said:
Didnt want to start a war here. Iphone has its merits as does Nokia as does many other phones. We all have a phone we love, mine is WM.
Just dont think its fair Windows Mobile gets bad rep for not having apps available, which is not true. There are many out there and most are free. If they were put to a marketplace... well, obviosly they wouldnt be free...
Sorry if I upset any... (think you guys are still cool! this is still the best forum)
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If that was because of my post, I apologise. It's not always easy to tell when someone is just pulling someones leg on forums I agree M$ must improve its marketplace and correlate all worthy apps in one place, or it will not stand a chance in the coming months.

OP has a point, this is my first windows phone and the marketplace is (currently) crap!
Any links like this one:
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/
where I can get some decent win mo software would be nice

what bugs me is that most of the apps (especially games) i found are for qvga devices, so look TERRIBLE on my lovely HD2 screen
thats the advantge of the iphone, like consoles, developers know Exactly what hardware they have to work with.

docchris1980 said:
thats the advantge of the iphone, like consoles, developers know Exactly what hardware they have to work with.
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The iPhone still has a ****ty HVGA screen. That needs to change soon, otherwise competitors will extend the lead even more in terms of hardware. The screen of the HD2, for example, already is a huge advantage, it makes everything from web browsing to reading mail, books etc. a lot more pleasant.
What happens then? Games developed for the 2G/3G/3GS iPhone may not work anymore, developers will have to develop for different hardware just like they have to do on Windows Mobile.
And by the way, there are lots of games for WVGA available. Really lots of them, and good ones.

The debate around AppStore v Marketplace is entirely spurious and makes about as much sense as saying my six month old child can't walk or talk as well as my neighbour's three year old.
There are a host of excellent, mature applications available for the PPC platform that are entirely independent of Marketplace (and I hope they remain so). A significant percentage of the best PPC apps were also around long before the iPhone was even a bulge in Steve Job's trousers.
In those terms the iPhone is still miles behind, although I admit that if you are looking for a fluffy little puffball of pointless visual nonsense with which to amuse the hard of thinking, the iPhone has to be the platform of choice.
While I admire the OP's intentions in trying to balance out the pointlessly negative threads posted by those with a suspiciously pro-iPhone agenda, I suspect we are all just going over the same old ground and should simply agree to disagree before it all decends into another flame war.
I'd therefore propose that we close this thread and get on with some of the business that concerns the device that brought us all here in the first place, rather than fretting about how it stacks up against other devices.

Gustopher said:
if you are looking for a fluffy little puffball of pointless visual nonsense with which to amuse the hard of thinking, the iPhone has to be the platform of choice.
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The iPhone still has a ****ty HVGA screen. That needs to change soon, otherwise competitors will extend the lead even more in terms of hardware. The screen of the HD2, for example, already is a huge advantage, it makes everything from web browsing to reading mail, books etc. a lot more pleasant.
What happens then? Games developed for the 2G/3G/3GS iPhone may not work anymore, developers will have to develop for different hardware just like they have to do on Windows Mobile.
And by the way, there are lots of games for WVGA available. Really lots of them, and good ones.
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Forget the screen just plug the fluffy puffball into the telly

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Forget the screen just plug the fluffy puffball into the telly
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Sorry, but buying an iPhone for playing games on the TV is stupid. There are PCs and consoles for that which are much more fun.
For gaming on the go, the HD2 is at least as good, if not better. I really enjoy playing all my SNES games on the HD2, those alone are already more than the total amount of games you find in the iPhone AppStore
Soon there's a new version of FPSCE and we can play our PSX games on the HD2, all of them being better than anything you can find in the AppStore.
Just look at that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5JoNUFHbJY
There's absolutely NOTHING in the AppStore that can compete with that.
And there are also lots of good standalone games for the HD2, like NFS undercover, Asphalt 4, POP, ..............

maati said:
Sorry, but buying an iPhone for playing games on the TV is stupid. There are PCs and consoles for that which are much more fun.
For gaming on the go, the HD2 is at least as good, if not better. I really enjoy playing all my SNES games on the HD2, those alone are already more than the total amount of games you find in the iPhone AppStore
Soon there's a new version of FPSCE and we can play our PSX games on the HD2, all of them being better than anything you can find in the AppStore.
Just look at that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5JoNUFHbJY
There's absolutely NOTHING in the AppStore that can compete with that.
And there are also lots of good standalone games for the HD2, like NFS undercover, Asphalt 4, POP, ..............
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I know what you mean and I am far too old for playing these sort of games but it is nice to have a working option. Spent thousands of pounds on HTC devices and they all have the registry entry but no function - very frustrating. You could always do some serious browsing or emailing or anything. Just an option.

TP2 has TV out if you want that. I don't get why someone would want to connect the phone to a TV for browsing or playing games... TV out for presentations: Yes, but for games?! Doesn't make sense, there's much better devices than phones for this.
Anyway, the HD2 is really the best phone for gaming.

Gustopher said:
The debate around AppStore v Marketplace is entirely...
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Hear...hear!
The truth is that all this hype abot the iPhone having more apps than windows mobile is as specious as it is purely PROPAGANDA! I know at least 4 people who get paid specifically to start a "blogging" campaign for or against whatever you want. This WinMo bashing campaign does look suspicious!
Just because the iPhone has a centeralized "marketplace" for alllll their fart apps doesn't mean that their measely 25,000 apps collection meets or exceeds what's available for CE. I personally have 2.8 Gigabytes of apps just for winmo 5+ (after cleaning and deleting old versions etc...).
In reality, it is just impossible to account for the windows mobile application base; software developers have been enriching windows mobile for more than 10 years, and they market their software independantly.
Personally, I bought, used, and gifted away my iPhone in a month! Yes, smooth animation, slick UI, a thin base of useful apps ( the rest are over-polished iFarts really), but no utility beyond that of an iPod whatsoever. The damn thing couldn't even handle basic "Cut-n-Paste" until it was later introduced as an "advanced update", let alone lack of multitasking, customizability, and its uselessness as a business phone -author & edit documents, spreadsheets, presentation, fax, OCR, exchange mail, etc... forget it! You want advanced functionality, enterprise mobility, a business solution? There really is only one way ----> The WinMo way.
For all its hype, the iPhone is a "chick-flick"; a fluffy darling you take to the manicure parlor! Its made for simplicity not multitasking, streamlined experience, not customizability; BASIC simple-minded FUNCTIONALITY!
And if you're here to start a flame-war, so be it; this is, and has been, an HTC/WinMo forum from day 1... You've brought your iPhone to the wrong shop honey!

Response to Hack-A-Day - Post Screenshots here

This is a thread to show hack-a-day what a unprofessional and outright dumb move they made by posting that article. I think it would be a great idea if everyone dropped a comment on the hackaday site for the 10 missing things for Android / 10 things for Gingerbread article and post the screenshot here. I have attached mine below along with the link to the article.
And yes I am really angered by their dumb approach. How do you not know that Android has folders, I mean co'mmon.
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http://hackaday.com/2010/07/10/top-10-features-wed-like-to-see-in-android-3-0/
Per cxdist, just to show I am not trying to drive hits, Article Below
Top 10 features we’d like to see in Android 3.0
posted Jul 10th 2010 8:00am by Jacob Nahin
filed under: android hacks, rants
Poor Google. Despite its numerous capabilities with smartphones spread across a variety of carriers, Android still struggles to garner the prestige and positive perceptions of iOS 4. Sales continue to rise, but at the end of the day, the average person is still left lusting for an iPhone. Well, here are 10 features that should be added to Android 3.0 that could change the tide.
1. A no-brainer task manager.
Google says Android doesn’t need a task manager, that it closes programs efficiently without any user-intervention, substandard apps often suck memory dry. Because of this, Android users are forced to download complicated task-managers, each with its own odd UI, and weigh which one works the best. Google, please fess up to the problem and put something in there a computer novice could use. Something with big buttons would be nice.
2. Stable Multitasking
Speaking of crashes, multitasking on Android is a mess. A little optimization here wouldn’t hurt. Better yet, while this may run counter-productive to us power-users, why not release a lite version of Android 3.0 that doesn’t support multitasking? Not every user needs it and lower-end phones would appreciate it
3. Swype
Google, your Android keyboard sucks. That’s why the fine folks at Swype Inc developed their product. Sure, some of the newer Android phones like the Droid X are releasing with it built in, but it would be a boon for the OS to come packaged with this software.
4. IR- sender support
On the hardware side of things, an IR-sender support is a “duh.” Imagine a next generation of remotes running on Android. Better yet, how would you like to control your lights and home-entertainment center with your phone without the sometimes-complicated mess of configuring through a network?
5. Universal pinch-to-zoom
Some apps have it. Some apps don’t. C’mon, this should be standard by now.
6. Folders
Google, you copied iOS’s homescreen UI, why not do it again? Many of users have outgrown their limited pages and would like a way to add some organization to their mobile lives.
7. SD-Card support for app-storage
If users are going to download a ton of apps from the Android Market, they need somewhere to put them. Users with rooted phones can already do this, but expandable storage should be standard in app-filled world with insatiable memory lust.
8. Built-in syncing
If the Android is going to succeed as a user-friendly platform, it needs to make it easy for people to add their music, photos, and video to their phones. It’s simple Google. Develop some web-based software and launch it as a beta. You do it for everything else…
9. Standardized UI for all apps
I’m all for artistic interpretation, but the reason so many functional apps get low scores is because they work differently than the rest of the OS. Once again, do what Apple did and come up with better UI guidelines.
10. Better market
Why can’t I queue downloads from the web? That would be awesome. How about a better way to navigate the store from my laptop? Despite the thousands of apps the Android Market hosts, it is stuck with the same problems as Apple’s iOS4. More importantly than any of the above, Google needs to innovate here. Change the way mobile markets work Google and you could win this war.
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They got you driving up site hits. Sounds like a great move to me.

cxdist said:
They got you driving up site hits. Sounds like a great move to me.
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Oh no dude, I cant stand hackaday, there just punks because they deleted the comment i left on the site. I mean an alternative would be just to post the article here and comment here. F&#K their hits.

I can't agree more that the article was written by a bumbling idiot, but how is this remotely related to development. Don't be a fool too, post in the right section.

isolated_epidemic said:
I can't agree more that the article was written by a bumbling idiot, but how is this remotely related to development. Don't be a fool too, post in the right section.
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Dude your right. Mod please post in the General Nexus One section. Thanks, Its 4:00am here so my bad.

flak0 said:
Dude your right. Mod please post in the General Nexus One section. Thanks, Its 4:00am here so my bad.
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Great find though, I always enjoy a solid chuckle before bed. Just like Fox News that guy apparently did zero research on his subject matter.

isolated_epidemic said:
Great find though, I always enjoy a solid chuckle before bed. Just like Fox News that guy apparently did zero research on his subject matter.
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lol true. i hate fanboys that don't know shiznit!

1. A no-brainer task manager.
Just because Google hasn't integrated it itself doesn't mean it doesn't exist. The article is right that Google hasn't released their own, but a task manager like ATK works perfectly fine. There are plenty of missing things in iOS4 that customers have relied on third party developers to fill the void.
2. Stable Multitasking
I lol'ed. Multitasking on my N1 works wonders compared to the "multitasking" on my iOS4 iPod Touch.
3. Swype
The default keyboard doesn't suck (I personally prefer it over Swype). But it is retarded to not acknowledge that Swype's closed-beta situation right now and limited manufacturer partners is probably the reason. Not Google.
4. IR- sender support
I couldn't care less about IR at this point. Haven't had it on a phone in years and don't miss it one bit. I'd rather have the ability to control devices over WiFi. Devices still relying on IR need to catch up as opposed to Google going backwards.
5. Universal pinch-to-zoom
Has anyone been able to pinch-to-zoom yet on their iOS4 homescreens? 'nuff said.
6. Folders
I didn't realize that the organized folders I have on my stock Android homescreens are figments of my imagination or have been magically created in my sleep by anally organized unicorns.
7. SD-Card support for app-storage
Really? Hi Froyo. Oh and I wish I could move apps to SD on my iPod Touch... (as most know, "storage capacity on an iDevice does not equal the amount of app RAM).
8. Built-in syncing
For media, I will say I do agree. A 1st party sync tool for media would be nice. But for PIM functionality, I much prefer the OTA syncing as opposed to having to remember to tether to my MacBook when I need to move info (except for those on Exchange which doesn't really count in this case because it goes without saying).
9. Standardized UI for all apps
God forbid developers have the right to design their apps the way they see fit instead of being told they all have to look a certain way!! I'm a unique and creative guy. I like my apps the same way.
10. Better market
iOS4's walled garden approach makes sense in many ways and doesn't make sense in many others. Android's approach leaves more of a possibility for trouble. But crap apps fill most of Apple's app store (not saying there isn't tons of crap in Android's market though) and clearly the walled garden approach isn't in place to give users only apps worth needing/buying. My one Android suggestion in this category? Buy AppBrain.

The One feature needed on Iphone 5...
The ability to hold a telephone conversation. Seriously Apple, fix that $***

How hard is it to get a non-biased article? Or at least one that respects the pros and cons of both operating systems. Anyhow I wrote the following, can't see it getting posted though
Seriously? This is the most impressive piece of fan boy horse **** I’ve read in a long time. Both operating systems have their pros and cons but to put zero research into an article is simply embarassing.
1 is nonsense as you can end each application through the settings – applications menu.
2 and 3 are purely subjective and as android is *OPEN* you can replace/hack the default keyboard in mere seconds.
4 While I would like this feature, I can’t see how it’s a DUH! feature. It’s obvious this will be integrated with the release of Google TV and similar.
5 makes zero sense as not all applications need pinch to zoom. Would p2z really be necessary in the calendar application or the music application? No. Also where is iOS’s p2z on the home screen? Oh its missing….
6 Now this is my favorite part, android has had folders since 1.5. That’s right, before iOS 3.
7 Froyo supports this perfectly, nuff said.
8 I agree with this point, a better *MEDIA* syncing experience is necessary. However application and data syncing even after a factory reset is perfect at the moment, I simply sign into my google account and everything is restored.
9 Please don’t restrict Android like iOS, we like originality and uniqueness. Demanding system wide standardization pretty much gives up on any significant advancements in the future.
10 This day in age no-one needs to queue downloads. If you’re using a connection which needs to queue sub 1mb downloads then Android vs iOS is the least of your worries. Admittedly I would like a way to access the marketplace on my laptop.
All in all, there was zero subjectivity in this article. Even on the areas that any Android user would agree to, the attitude used is that of an iOS fan boy. Poor show hackaday.
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adambenjamin said:
The One feature needed on Iphone 5...
The ability to hold a telephone conversation. Seriously Apple, fix that $***
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hold down the mute button for a couple of second and it'll change to hold.

mtl171 said:
hold down the mute button for a couple of second and it'll change to hold.
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I'm pretty sure they were referring to the high rate of call dropping and call failures that many people use as a target of insult towards the iPhone crowd. Not the ability to put the call on hold.

obstacles can kill said:
I'm pretty sure they were referring to the high rate of call dropping and call failures that many people use as a target of insult towards the iPhone crowd. Not the ability to put the call on hold.
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supposedly the new iphone fixes it. though you lose bars when you hold it(messed up reception algorithm)

We seriously need a new blog site to respond to all of those biased, ignorant, uneducated, and lack of research articles posted in many blog sites (even sometimes the big sites make mistakes too). I think a site like this would be fun to read

ohh, I mean hold, as in not drop the call actually. My iphone could not hold on to a call.

NexusDro said:
We seriously need a new blog site to respond to all of those biased, ignorant, uneducated, and lack of research articles posted in many blog sites (even sometimes the big sites make mistakes too). I think a site like this would be fun to read
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Well I turned my rebuttal to it into a blog post on my site. If anyone supports my response to the article, you are more than welcome to share it.
Oh and if linking to my site for this reason is against policy (I don't think it is because I've seen external linking previously), I fully apologize and will remove the link or will understand if a mod does it.
And here is the pic I used for the article:
http://www.erictate.com/2010/07/11/hack-a-day-loses-their-cred-outside-of-ifanboys/

Thanks Everyone for your Input & responses. I agree with building the blog site against this article. Hackaday will not only lose credibility but they will also lose readers. Thats like Engadget saying that Android needs Adobe Flash in 3.0. I mean really, okay I will go back to work now.

The posting: http://hackaday.com/2010/07/10/top-10-features-wed-like-to-see-in-android-3-0/
They have since admitted that the article is not very accurate.
Hello HaD readers,
Sorry for the delay in updating this. I was on probation while the editors worked with Jason to figure out some things.
Clearly, for my recent debut article, I didn’t research Android OS well enough. After reading each of your comments, I realize that the article fell short of HaD’s and its readers standards for high-quality writing and reporting. Every point I made in the article were problems I noticed in my experience with Android, but I should have done more research on others’ experiences and the capabilities of each version of the OS. To each reader, I am sorry and will do better by you in future posts.
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1. A no-brainer task manager.
Google says Android doesn’t need a task manager, that it closes programs efficiently without any user-intervention, substandard apps often suck memory dry. Because of this, Android users are forced to download complicated task-managers, each with its own odd UI, and weigh which one works the best. Google, please fess up to the problem and put something in there a computer novice could use. Something with big buttons would be nice.
Included in a OS thats designed to take care of this?
2. Stable Multitasking
Speaking of crashes, multitasking on Android is a mess. A little optimization here wouldn’t hurt. Better yet, while this may run counter-productive to us power-users, why not release a lite version of Android 3.0 that doesn’t support multitasking? Not every user needs it and lower-end phones would appreciate it
Is there anything more stable than the linux kernel? brainwashed by apple?
3. Swype
Google, your Android keyboard sucks. That’s why the fine folks at Swype Inc developed their product. Sure, some of the newer Android phones like the Droid X are releasing with it built in, but it would be a boon for the OS to come packaged with this software.
It does not suck. Again the door is open to install any number of keyboards and choose!
4. IR- sender support
On the hardware side of things, an IR-sender support is a “duh.” Imagine a next generation of remotes running on Android. Better yet, how would you like to control your lights and home-entertainment center with your phone without the sometimes-complicated mess of configuring through a network?
heard of Google TV? You can control it using the network/wifi. An IR sender would be nice and geeky, but not required in a phone.
5. Universal pinch-to-zoom
Some apps have it. Some apps don’t. C’mon, this should be standard by now.
(and again) The OS supports it. Apps that need it can incorporate it.
6. Folders
Google, you copied iOS’s homescreen UI, why not do it again? Many of users have outgrown their limited pages and would like a way to add some organization to their mobile lives.
thats a nice big rock you got there
7. SD-Card support for app-storage
If users are going to download a ton of apps from the Android Market, they need somewhere to put them. Users with rooted phones can already do this, but expandable storage should be standard in app-filled world with insatiable memory lust.
thats a nice big rock you got there
8. Built-in syncing
If the Android is going to succeed as a user-friendly platform, it needs to make it easy for people to add their music, photos, and video to their phones. It’s simple Google. Develop some web-based software and launch it as a beta. You do it for everything else…
best sync in the industry. No need to isntall iToons bloatware. More anti-google statements. Their betas are excellent!
9. Standardized UI for all apps
I’m all for artistic interpretation, but the reason so many functional apps get low scores is because they work differently than the rest of the OS. Once again, do what Apple did and come up with better UI guidelines.
The default UI is standardized, the SDK provides so much scope for customizing . If you want a shiny UI wait for gingerbread.
10. Better market
Why can’t I queue downloads from the web? That would be awesome. How about a better way to navigate the store from my laptop? Despite the thousands of apps the Android Market hosts, it is stuck with the same problems as Apple’s iOS4. More importantly than any of the above, Google needs to innovate here. Change the way mobile markets work Google and you could win this war.
Desktop market browsing is about to be released. (get out from that rock and watch GoogleIO 2010). Downloads DO get queued

PSP to Native Emulator [Disscus]

Hey Guys as you know we can Rip and convert our own PSX Isos,
But im still Confused after seeing LOCO ROCO on the PSX market
So I got in contact with Yinfan Lu and disscused but he won't be convinced without the communitys support so Please reply and don't spam him with messages but go to his site and email him, via CONTACT ME.
This will enable you to email him......Duhh....
Send him You won't him to create a PSP Converter for Xperia Play.
And say Why and what benifits he will get out of it.
And if this gets Piracy Envolved then He won't do it and Pirates are G** F*C****
Fags.
also to create attention to this Please post if you have send an email and what you said, if you intend to pirate you can get a $1000+ fine so I wouldn't if i was you.
I DO NOT INTEND FOR THIS TO BECOME A HASTLE JUST SAYING SOMETHING THAT COULD MAKE HIM COME BACK THE XPERIA PLAY COMMUNITY DONT SPAM ITS ANNOYING AND STUPID!

Im pretty sure that game does not acttually include a emulator but instead it is a ported version.

Loco rocco is not being emulated, there will never be a PSP emulator for the xperia play. You could be the most awesome programmer in the world but the xperia plays hardware is simply not powerful enough to emulate PSP games.

bubblegumballoon said:
Loco rocco is not being emulated, there will never be a PSP emulator for the xperia play. You could be the most awesome programmer in the world but the xperia plays hardware is simply not powerful enough to emulate PSP games.
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That. It ain't happening, dude.

GDSH said:
Hey Guys as you know we can Rip and convert our own PSX Isos,
But im still Confused after seeing LOCO ROCO on the PSX market
So I got in contact with Yinfan Lu and disscused but he won't be convinced without the communitys support so Please reply and don't spam him with messages but go to his site and email him, via CONTACT ME.
This will enable you to email him......Duhh....
Send him You won't him to create a PSP Converter for Xperia Play.
And say Why and what benifits he will get out of it.
And if this gets Piracy Envolved then He won't do it and Pirates are G** F*C****
Fags.
also to create attention to this Please post if you have send an email and what you said, if you intend to pirate you can get a $1000+ fine so I wouldn't if i was you.
I DO NOT INTEND FOR THIS TO BECOME A HASTLE JUST SAYING SOMETHING THAT COULD MAKE HIM COME BACK THE XPERIA PLAY COMMUNITY DONT SPAM ITS ANNOYING AND STUPID!
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Didn't you think to stop and ask if it's even possible before solilciting people to spam someone for no good reason?!

Didn't you think to stop and ask if it's even possible before solilciting people to spam someone for no good reason?!
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This.
Even if it was possible (which it isnt) you cant just force the dude to do it. He does it for free in his own time, he is not obliged to do anything for anybody.

DeanBoro said:
Im pretty sure that game does not acttually include a emulator but instead it is a ported version.
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True. This was confirmed to have been a ported version of the video game via Sony FAQ.
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This.
Even if it was possible (which it isnt) you cant just force the dude to do it. He does it for free in his own time, he is not obliged to do anything for anybody.
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I think most of the people that have responded to this thread are pretty much dead on in terms of the reality behind it all. I think a good example is to take a look at the DS emulator that's out and compare it's (Nintendo DS) specs with the PSP. While the DS is available it's virtually unplayable and serves as somewhat of a reality check that it's just not possible.
I think people like Yinfan and others have been a very important contribution to our community so we shouldn't burden them with our personal desires (unless they openly ask for suggestions).

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woah woah woah !!There is a psp game for the Xperia Play alredy out?!!!!
HOW THE HELL DID I MISS THAT and more importend, how di i get it on MY phone?

Sorry For this is my Doppy Brother thinking it was his Account ADMIN remove this stupid Thread

This you? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22000061&postcount=343
I thought by making those smartass comments, you would get that I'm saying the idea is absurd, but I don't think you understood, so let me put this seriously:
1) Is it POSSIBLE to run psp/ps2 on the play? Certainly. In theory, any computer can run code that emulates another computer. Now the chances that someone/group will take the time to spend the months/years doing so is next to null. Unless you are willing to pay them hourly wages, you're not going to convince anyone to do this.
2) A rule of thumb is that a platform has to be 10x more powerful than what it's emulating. I can't say for sure, but I think the play is just bearly that much, not to mention that android is already system intensive. The best bet would be to write an alternative OS (no android/linux) that only emulates psp/ps2. To use most of the power of the play (and that might not even be enough), you need low level access and nothing else interfering (android for example). So on top of reversing a console, you also have to reverse a play.
In summary, you need someone/group with skill, time, and resources. Your best bet is to hire Sony engineers. Can you pay them more than what Sony pays them? And I'm talking hourly wages.
And to everyone else. Please don't email me about the play. As I've said, I no longer own the phone, so there's nothing I can do.

By impossible I kind of meant that it will never happen or even if somebody did port something like pcsx2 it would run super super slow.
To write an entire PS2 emulator from scratch in assembly would take so long that by the time it is done nobody will care about the play anymore. The best thing to do is just wait for advances in hardware.
Heck just look at how long pcsx2 has been in development and it still struggles to play a lot of games even on high end PC's

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This you? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22000061&postcount=343
I thought by making those smartass comments, you would get that I'm saying the idea is absurd, but I don't think you understood, so let me put this seriously:
1) Is it POSSIBLE to run psp/ps2 on the play? Certainly. In theory, any computer can run code that emulates another computer. Now the chances that someone/group will take the time to spend the months/years doing so is next to null. Unless you are willing to pay them hourly wages, you're not going to convince anyone to do this.
2) A rule of thumb is that a platform has to be 10x more powerful than what it's emulating. I can't say for sure, but I think the play is just bearly that much, not to mention that android is already system intensive. The best bet would be to write an alternative OS (no android/linux) that only emulates psp/ps2. To use most of the power of the play (and that might not even be enough), you need low level access and nothing else interfering (android for example). So on top of reversing a console, you also have to reverse a play.
In summary, you need someone/group with skill, time, and resources. Your best bet is to hire Sony engineers. Can you pay them more than what Sony pays them? And I'm talking hourly wages.
And to everyone else. Please don't email me about the play. As I've said, I no longer own the phone, so there's nothing I can do.
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Nah. That's clearly someone else who also capitalizes words completely randomly and uses "won't" when he means "want."
Anyway, in response to the part I bolded, that's exactly what I saidhere when I wrote "Keep dreaming. Sony made the PSP dev kits to allow quick porting to PS2, PS3, and other platforms. PSP minis all compile to run on both PSP and PS3. So, it's either out-right native ports or a code translation engine with wrappers for natively unsupported functions and system calls ala cXbx. Either way, it will take a commercial level of effort and understanding to make each title function and this will be required per title."
Even that was assuming that there was some kind of native support for PSP code. Expecting an emulator to do it is just
The reasons the Sony-made PSone emulator runs better than the others are three-fold: 1) It was written and optimized for ARM, unlike the ported PC emulators usually written in high-level portable C++, 2) it was written with a more intimate understanding of the original hardware by those who built it, and 3) it has a commercially-supported level of effort (many people making their living by working on it daily with untold amounts of man-hours dedicated to it). Emu-kiddies just don't get it.
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By impossible I kind of meant that it will never happen or even if somebody did port something like pcsx2 it would run super super slow.
To write an entire PS2 emulator from scratch in assembly would take so long that by the time it is done nobody will care about the play anymore. The best thing to do is just wait for advances in hardware.
Heck just look at how long pcsx2 has been in development and it still struggles to play a lot of games even on high end PC's
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It's kinda like the difference between animating Toy Story on early '90s computers using crude wireframes (even those were slow) vs. the final output on film. The server farms would crank away for hours with several days' worth of computing power per frame generated to make the final result of 23.9 FPS. Expecting the same computers to render that level of detail at 23.9FPS *in real time* when they couldn't even render a wireframe in real time at that speed is as ridiculous as expecting an Xperia PLAY to run a PSP emulator at full speed just because it's possible to port it and run it. It's just not going to happen. It's possible, but it wouldn't be close to "real time," and real-time is kinda the point with emulation (kinda hard to fix with frame skip if each frame is going to take minutes/hours/days. ).

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This you? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22000061&postcount=343
I thought by making those smartass comments, you would get that I'm saying the idea is absurd, but I don't think you understood, so let me put this seriously:
1) Is it POSSIBLE to run psp/ps2 on the play? Certainly. In theory, any computer can run code that emulates another computer. Now the chances that someone/group will take the time to spend the months/years doing so is next to null. Unless you are willing to pay them hourly wages, you're not going to convince anyone to do this.
2) A rule of thumb is that a platform has to be 10x more powerful than what it's emulating. I can't say for sure, but I think the play is just bearly that much, not to mention that android is already system intensive. The best bet would be to write an alternative OS (no android/linux) that only emulates psp/ps2. To use most of the power of the play (and that might not even be enough), you need low level access and nothing else interfering (android for example). So on top of reversing a console, you also have to reverse a play.
In summary, you need someone/group with skill, time, and resources. Your best bet is to hire Sony engineers. Can you pay them more than what Sony pays them? And I'm talking hourly wages.
And to everyone else. Please don't email me about the play. As I've said, I no longer own the phone, so there's nothing I can do.
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I am so sorry for my brothers actions he's 14 an is a pain, We both have Xperias (play) he just cant face the facts so sorry again and it wasn't me I have auto login on google chrome not my fAULT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Windows Phone loosing momentum?

Am I alone when I fell like Windows Phone loosing momentum? I mean Windows Phone is starting to get boring with no major changes to the UI or functionality. I feel like all MS is doing it stringing us along with small updates but never giving us what we want for example we've been asking for the option to use custom tones for notification alerts like for MMS and SMS and still nothing, it's like they don't care what we have to say. Or the notification hub that a lot of people want, ability to create custom theme colors for tiles and I can go on and on.
Another thing is at least to me it seems like they procrastinate on getting things done and then they rush to get it out at the very last minute and we get things like the Lumina 920 and the HTC X8 with their issues with rebooting and freezing and so on. I still have issues on my WP8 that I use to have on my WP7 device, for example when trying to send an email at work with a pic attachment; it seems like it won't send because it doesn't recognize my email password even though it's correct.. I always end up having to delete my email account and recreate it for it to work!!!
Yea I know that WP8 is still young, bla, bla, bla... Well that's my lil rant; I'm sure that there is a lot of you out there that have similar opinions with either the lack of functionality or other problems with the phone and some that are just plain happy with whatever MS dictates that you need or not. If MS says you don't need custom ringtones or MMS or cut and paste some people just agree with them but not me, all I'm asking is for simple / common functions and options that have been around since like Windows Mobile.

I agree with the custom notifications stuff. The built in tones are awful.
I never had any issues with emails and pictures.This is most likely a problem from the email service provider rather than the phone itself.
WP needs more APIs so that developers can actually develop something creative. DirectX and C++ are not enough, and they can only be used for games anyway.

It still has momentum as regards the development of the operating system.
It is just starting from a bad position.
WP7 had a huge number of basic features missing.
WP8 has probably halved this list or better.
With the "blue" update I am expecting WP8 to have all the basic features in place.
If there is compatibility with Windows RT apps that implies big improvements to the Windows Phone APIs.

I don't know how it can be 'loosing momentum'.
WP8 is barely 3 months old...
All this comparison with the Android and iPhone platforms really annoys me. Those particular platforms have been around for years and years, hence the thousands and thousands of apps.
WP is easily the best and most modern mobile OS out there. That includes the 'new' BB OS (which looks like Android to me).
The tweaks to the OS WILL come. Be patient.
I loved my WP7 Omnia 7, and I love my WP8 Lumia 920. Slick and great to use.
If you want customization options galore, then get an Android device...

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I doubt it, be patient. And if it is in the US, it's not elsewhere. Elsewhere it's only starting. iPhone is so outdated and android is beta, apps keep crashing. Windows Phone is quality.

Looking at my Apps Download numbers it doesn't look like it's losing Momentum in the Marketplace. When WP8 arrived, the numbers increased from 1000 - 2000 Downloads/day to 5000-6000 and have been in that range pretty much ever since. To me at least that looks like a pretty steady influx of users. Especially given that I didn't see a slow-down after christmas sales.
On the API front a lot of stuff was added in WP8. I admit that there are still holes that developers who were part of the early access programm (Windows Phone SDK) have communicated to Microsoft. Still lots of things developers were asking for are now there. Native code perhaps was the biggest part of it (and most requested I guess) and they also have the native APIs looking very similar to WinRT. They will have to bring this to the Managed side as well and it will be interesting to see how they fare in that regard.
Native code does not only provide for easier porting of games but also allows better and faster image and audio processing which some Apps require to make sense on a mobile device, although I don't know too many that take advantage of that.
The ability to integrate Tell Me into Third Party Apps is one of the coolest features they built into WP8 but I have to admit that it has rarely been used so far and not in the best implementations. Bluetooth APIs have also been added which as well was a rather glaring omission in WP7. The ability of Apps to start other Apps or to launch documents in other Apps that support the file type was also added but again: there are not that many Apps supporting it right now. Offline mapping functionality is now available to Apps which to my knowledge similar to the system speech engine integration is also something that currently isn't available on competing platforms.
To cut it short: quite a lot changed under the covers. Not everything people would have wished for has happened but the platform has become a lot more capable. But, it hasn't been available for most developers until launch and doing interesting stuff based on the new features takes time. We've currently mostly seen early adoptions of new features into existing Apps. New concepts have not arrived but I'm pretty sure people have Apps in development that will take advantage of what was added.
Where you are correct is that there are some pretty annoying omissions in improving certain built in features. It starts with custom notification sounds (which should not be to hard to do based on how it was implemented in WP7 homebrew software and continues on in new features that didn't go quite far enough. BitLocker is there but can only be enabled using an Exchange-Servers Security Policies. PDFs are now displayed in the Office Hub but can't be stored there from the Internet or when received through an E-Mail. They'll have to work those kinks out because I honestly believe: there are not that many really big functionality gaps in the OS by now but many, many annoyances that add up.

I think that now that BlackBerry is back in the game, EVERYONE is going to have to step up. I was cleaning and came across my old phones, right now I'm looking at a Nokia Lumia 810, an HD7, a TP2, and an HD2....Microsoft needs to stick with something instead of constantly abandoning things...hell, I have 2 years of Zune content that I can't use on my new phone.
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StevieBallz said:
Looking at my Apps Download numbers it doesn't look like it's losing Momentum in the Marketplace. When WP8 arrived, the numbers increased from 1000 - 2000 Downloads/day to 5000-6000 and have been in that range pretty much ever since. To me at least that looks like a pretty steady influx of users. Especially given that I didn't see a slow-down after christmas sales.
On the API front a lot of stuff was added in WP8. I admit that there are still holes that developers who were part of the early access programm (Windows Phone SDK) have communicated to Microsoft. Still lots of things developers were asking for are now there. Native code perhaps was the biggest part of it (and most requested I guess) and they also have the native APIs looking very similar to WinRT. They will have to bring this to the Managed side as well and it will be interesting to see how they fare in that regard.
Native code does not only provide for easier porting of games but also allows better and faster image and audio processing which some Apps require to make sense on a mobile device, although I don't know too many that take advantage of that.
The ability to integrate Tell Me into Third Party Apps is one of the coolest features they built into WP8 but I have to admit that it has rarely been used so far and not in the best implementations. Bluetooth APIs have also been added which as well was a rather glaring omission in WP7. The ability of Apps to start other Apps or to launch documents in other Apps that support the file type was also added but again: there are not that many Apps supporting it right now. Offline mapping functionality is now available to Apps which to my knowledge similar to the system speech engine integration is also something that currently isn't available on competing platforms.
To cut it short: quite a lot changed under the covers. Not everything people would have wished for has happened but the platform has become a lot more capable. But, it hasn't been available for most developers until launch and doing interesting stuff based on the new features takes time. We've currently mostly seen early adoptions of new features into existing Apps. New concepts have not arrived but I'm pretty sure people have Apps in development that will take advantage of what was added.
Where you are correct is that there are some pretty annoying omissions in improving certain built in features. It starts with custom notification sounds (which should not be to hard to do based on how it was implemented in WP7 homebrew software and continues on in new features that didn't go quite far enough. BitLocker is there but can only be enabled using an Exchange-Servers Security Policies. PDFs are now displayed in the Office Hub but can't be stored there from the Internet or when received through an E-Mail. They'll have to work those kinks out because I honestly believe: there are not that many really big functionality gaps in the OS by now but many, many annoyances that add up.
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I may have misunderstood you-
but are you saying that one particular app is getting 5000-6000 downloads, per day, on wp8 devices ?

Must be one heck of an app. Frankly I haven't found one great one, yet.

Yes, 1 App 5000-6000 downloads / day. Although it's WP7 AND WP8. I have never bothered to find out if I can filter the data to see WP7 and WP8 separately. And as for it being good: it seems to do what lots of people want it to do although I actually do believe myself that for some an alternative App might be better. I always tried to keep it simple and not overload it with too many features. Other developers of similar Apps have done it differently.
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I've attached the download chart from 1st of September to mid of February as it is provided in the Dev Cenetr. The left scale shows daily Downloads (purple line), the right scale displays total Downloads (black line) just passed the 1.4 Million Download mark).As you can see there have been 664 000 Downloads in that timeframe.

StevieBallz said:
Yes, 1 App 5000-6000 downloads / day. Although it's WP7 AND WP8. I have never bothered to find out if I can filter the data to see WP7 and WP8 separately. And as for it being good: it seems to do what lots of people want it to do although I actually do believe myself that for some an alternative App might be better. I always tried to keep it simple and not overload it with too many features. Other developers of similar Apps have done it differently.
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I've attached the download chart from 1st of September to mid of February as it is provided in the Dev Cenetr. The left scale shows daily Downloads (purple line), the right scale displays total Downloads (black line) just passed the 1.4 Million Download mark).As you can see there have been 664 000 Downloads in that timeframe.
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What's the name so we can try it out?
Paid or free? Doesn't matter I'm willing to support.

Connectivity Shortcuts - has been free for most of it's life but I added Ads some months back. I believe it is still getting the fine Download numbers due to the fact of it being one of the first two Shortcut Apps. I'm pretty sure you'll have tried out one of them and that being said: most of them are quite trivial in idea and implementation (so I would guess you will stand by your finding of no nice Apps). But this is getting pretty much Offtopic.
Posting the chart motivated me to look through the more detailed data. I still can't tell WP7 and WP8 apart but according to that sales have scaled back following Christmas in countries like the US or Germany (which kind of is expected given strong holiday sales). The sustained influx of users seems to come from countries where newer devices are still being launched. That spike you can see in mid-January was 4000 sales in China on a single day although I have no idea as to what happened that day (it wasn't the Lumia 920 launch - I looked it up and that was in mid-December).
In the end I believe that my Download data is kinda similar to the Facebook-Metric that several blogs have employed to calculate WP growth due to the fact that the App is part of Microsoft's collection for productivity and is also being featured in Nokia's App Highlights-App. Still this in no way yields us definitive data on how WP is doing but given how the chart reacted to some of the events in WP's life it seems we can still draw some conclussions based on that data.

StevieBallz said:
Connectivity Shortcuts - has been free for most of it's life but I added Ads some months back. I believe it is still getting the fine Download numbers due to the fact of it being one of the first two Shortcut Apps. I'm pretty sure you'll have tried out one of them and that being said: most of them are quite trivial in idea and implementation (so I would guess you will stand by your finding of no nice Apps). But this is getting pretty much Offtopic.
Posting the chart motivated me to look through the more detailed data. I still can't tell WP7 and WP8 apart but according to that sales have scaled back following Christmas in countries like the US or Germany (which kind of is expected given strong holiday sales). The sustained influx of users seems to come from countries where newer devices are still being launched. That spike you can see in mid-January was 4000 sales in China on a single day although I have no idea as to what happened that day (it wasn't the Lumia 920 launch - I looked it up and that was in mid-December).
In the end I believe that my Download data is kinda similar to the Facebook-Metric that several blogs have employed to calculate WP growth due to the fact that the App is part of Microsoft's collection for productivity and is also being featured in Nokia's App Highlights-App. Still this in no way yields us definitive data on how WP is doing but given how the chart reacted to some of the events in WP's life it seems we can still draw some conclussions based on that data.
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Ok now I see why you have so many downloads. One of the most useful apps on the platform.

Enough chaps, no need to make posts personal attacks.
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I feel more like a disappointed by the WP8 release.
It just feels like a Windows Mobile 2003/5/6 all over again! Where Microsoft overpromised and underdelivered. Where every new major release added very little on the table, and where iPhone added a whole set of new experiences.
I didn't really buy the whole "locked" device for your own good bull****, as you are not "root". I like the Windows Mobile custom builds that improved your experience or even fixed some bugs.
In a sense, the "spirit" of the Windows Mobile (chaos), moved to the Android. There is all sorts of custom builds and apps.
With the recent release of Android 4.2, that improves the animation speed (makes it as smooth as WP), there is no good reason, not to update.
I gave it a chance... it did not lived up to it.

There's an awful lot to say about that post my friend! The changes from 2003 to 5 were massive though, both on the surface and under the hood, 5 to 6 was more like a refinement, what was to come after 6.5 was wrong though, it flew in the face of what was happening with IOS ad android and I for one am glade it got caned. WP isnt supposed to be compared to the others, its different an for good reason, I will admit that the security side is the only reason I haven't got a Wp8 device, but WP7s security (interop unlocked) with root tools is the clear answer to the problem but....
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.... As to what made wm good, well again your right, it was the customization factor, it was and still is the best OS pocket PC platform out there, but the sales model was never going to work, and android is starting to see the effect too, MS made the core platform, sent it to OEMs who pissed all over it, it then got sent to the networks who all took a giant dump on it, we ended up with slow, bloated devices with no drivers to support the hardware and MS shouldered the blame! The proof of what wm could have been is here in the real roots of xda dev, what was still lacking from our custom roms was developed drivers that made use of the device. All those android lot may think they are all jazzy and new but wm had similar skins decades ago lol, it just needed some TLC!
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There's an awful lot to say about that post my friend! The changes from 2003 to 5 were massive though, both on the surface and under the hood, 5 to 6 was more like a refinement, what was to come after 6.5 was wrong though, it flew in the face of what was happening with IOS ad android and I for one am glade it got caned. WP isnt supposed to be compared to the others, its different an for good reason, I will admit that the security side is the only reason I haven't got a Wp8 device, but WP7s security (interop unlocked) with root tools is the clear answer to the problem but....
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.... As to what made wm good, well again your right, it was the customization factor, it was and still is the best OS pocket PC platform out there, but the sales model was never going to work, and android is starting to see the effect too, MS made the core platform, sent it to OEMs who pissed all over it, it then got sent to the networks who all took a giant dump on it, we ended up with slow, bloated devices with no drivers to support the hardware and MS shouldered the blame! The proof of what wm could have been is here in the real roots of xda dev, what was still lacking from our custom roms was developed drivers that made use of the device. All those android lot may think they are all jazzy and new but wm had similar skins decades ago lol, it just needed some TLC!
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history, repeating?
but then there are the wonderful custom roms. you remember your favorites from wm, they're reincarnated with better hardware (touch screens rock now!) and more mobile centric applications.
the deficiencies of wp8 don't have custom roms to supplement (or did i miss them, sorry) - so what is the natural progression for folks who want a little more of this or that ?
the next step for wp is __________ ?

we can all blame Apple, really, for being so creative..
but more accurately, we can blame HTC for abandoning all of its WinMob users to try and copy the iPhone
but more specifically, we can blame the uncreative doofs at Microcrap for trying to copy the above two companies
or more directly we can blame all the little braindead users out there who think their phones need to be swiped
what is with that swiping crap? its lamest thing i've every done in my entire life.
do you really need to swipe everything? is that really the main purpose of you owning a phone?
because all i'm seeing is different ways to swipe things... and thats because users are apparently so shallow and pathetic, that the best thing they can do with their phone is be seen by others swiping it
and to be extra 1337, they dream of being able to swipe it in some different direction than other people
but really.. lets analyze whats happening.. take away the swiping, and what are they doing? the most useless crap ever to have existed on the face of the planet.. thats what
really?
its like planet of the living braindead around here..
i dont need a phone that matches my haircut, piercings, butterfly tattoos, & painted nails..
and no, no matter how i'm swiping, i'm not going to believe i'm hip, fashionable, advanced, or the slightest bit interesting
screw your swiping.. why dont you make my phone useful & productive, instead.. how about that?

The whole point of this forum is to make our devices better, and share our knowledge about how to do so. This thread does not do that, and does not bring anything positive whatsoever. In fact, this is purely a rant thread, and with that in mind I'm going to close it. Discussion is one thing, but there's nothing positive to be had here.
Thread closed.

Install android on Lumia 950 XL?

Is this possible? Will it be possible?
I tried googling for a bit and didnt really come up with any hits so that kinda leads me to believe that as of now its not possible but how about in the future?
I am new to the Windows mobile "scene", having won a 950 XL from a competition, but i really dont like being stuck with Windows on it, mainly because of the lack of solid apps but also because i feel the Windows OS is lacking (I cant really put my finger on it, its a design/function thing).
Was hoping to run android apps on it but that seems to be out of the question so i want to install Android on it.. Or just sell it and go back to my Note 2.

I dont think it will be possible to port android to a windows device. You would need a custom bootloader written from scratch for it.

The Android port for the HTC HD2 was a godsend. I'll be praying for another miracle.

buy android device if you want android....

apart from the fact that is useless to deal with a wp and try to install android, why did you want to do it?
i'm an android user too, and got it as a present but after a few days of adaptation i think that also wp10 has potential.
yes, some things have to be fixed and more apps have to come in order to finally call it a real OS but i'm getting used to it and in some aspects is better than android

you can install the preview version of win10 and then you can change the settings to allow to work with apps from android. it is still wp os, but with android apps working now at least
to install an app, you need to connect to the PC, download the app file and install it onto your phone.
as far as i know most of the apps are working just as they should.

dodi779 said:
you can install the preview version of win10 and then you can change the settings to allow to work with apps from android. it is still wp os, but with android apps working now at least
to install an app, you need to connect to the PC, download the app file and install it onto your phone.
as far as i know most of the apps are working just as they should.
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thats not true... this not working and this project (Astoria) is dead

Why on Earth would some1 even think of an Android? it is pure blasphemy. I gotta go to the church now to release the evil from even speaking of the devilish OS. YUK!!

miodrage said:
Why on Earth would some1 even think of an Android? it is pure blasphemy. I gotta go to the church now to release the evil from even speaking of the devilish OS. YUK!!
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Some people want best of both worlds.. and the lack of apps for work and banking
weredo911 said:
The Android port for the HTC HD2 was a godsend. I'll be praying for another miracle.
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yes agreed!
For me I think there is a way, just need some more knowledge but if there is one I prefer dual boot. It is possible given that other android devices can be installed with windows 10 mobile and also bootable in the SD card just like my HD2 before

drmodify said:
Some people want best of both worlds.. and the lack of apps for work and banking
yes agreed!
For me I think there is a way, just need some more knowledge but if there is one I prefer dual boot. It is possible given that other android devices can be installed with windows 10 mobile and also bootable in the SD card just like my HD2 before
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I think the "blasphemy" comment was tongue-in-cheek, or at least I hope so.
Sure, this is possible (dual boot, SD or otherwise), but no small project. As someone mentioned, there's the bootstrap, and then any tweaks for the chipset variations, and then if you want all your devices to work (i.e. infrared camera, etc), that don't have standard drivers, you have to contend with those too. Totally possible, but probable, well...

Well if you could mimic a server and grab an early prerelease that would be a way to go. Personaly I would love MM on my 950XL as apps like Bloomberg and others haven't been updated for years I also love the handset at a really fair price.

At least you won it, I did Buy it
I bought it with high price cause I love Nokia and I thought it'll be much more power and smart , but it wasn't smart at all, If we buy a cheap chines android mobile from any small brand it'll give us better services.
nothing special , lack of app, even the same apps with android didn't work that easy and same way, lot of advertisement , basic apps not smooth
some time i think do the employee there in Nokia use android once?

Faten said:
I bought it with high price cause I love Nokia and I thought it'll be much more power and smart , but it wasn't smart at all, If we buy a cheap chines android mobile from any small brand it'll give us better services.
nothing special , lack of app, even the same apps with android didn't work that easy and same way, lot of advertisement , basic apps not smooth
some time i think do the employee there in Nokia use android once?
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You do realize this isn't a Nokia device, right? If I could get a smooth, stable Android OS working on a Lumia 950(XL), I would seriously consider picking a cheap used one up. Great camera, decent display, removable battery, decent hardware all around...

dxdy said:
buy android device if you want android....
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LOL. That comment will never get old. Same goes for android forums wanting W10M on android devices.
Seriously though. I had to move my wife to a phone with bigger storage so we went back to an android device. I forgot how cluttered the android OS seemed to me...to me android can be a very busy operating system. Personally I have always liked the windows mobile OS since the first time I used it. We just need some better NEWER devices...

dxdy said:
buy android device if you want android....
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Believe me I would if I hadn't been so STUPID last December and replaced my Lumia 1020 with the Lumia 950XL! If I knew then what I do now I would have left Windows and moved over to Android, now I'm stuck in a 2 year contract with a high-spec phone with an OS that isn't getting the support it deserves!
I have another 15 very long months before I can go to Android, ideally, I'd keep it longer if there was an Android build for the 950xl.
Don't get me wrong, I love the phone and Windows 10, it's just got to a point where none of the services I use, or need to use to do my job, are supporting Windows. I have no choice but to look at Android!

xma1e said:
deally, I'd keep it longer if there was an Android build for the 950xl.
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good luck with waiting
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Not possible at all. Even Developers arent interested in Wp

hi guys, is a wp so infeted of ads as android is? could maybe try a wp, but I know there is no root available for wp so no way to install a app similar to adaway right? or in wp adaway is not needed for any reasons? TIA!

in general adblocker not needed because in most case ads not aggressive and big... problem can be some web pages. maybe Edge on w10M finally get addons support, ut for now Monument Browser have experimental adblocker...

So... no luck?
I bought it because it had good hardware specs and the Mi5 Pro was overexpensive, but I totally regret it and would like to get back to Android. I'm not familiar with selling sites like ebay so I don't want to risk selling this junk and buying a new phone, so this is the only option I have left.
Is someone willing to build an Android version for this crappy phone?