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Galaxy Note ICS implementation recommendations

If you guys seen the new gadget Asus Memo on CES2012 you may already have recognised it is a great implementation of ICS which i think might be what Galaxy Note should be with ICS upgrade instead of regular touchwiz phone interface. What do you guys think about it? Maybe we can effect the development progress of ICS for Galaxy Note in this direction. For those who haven't seen the new OS on Asus Memo could check out this early preview video :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su5yjTGKt3k

I'm still hoping for some kind of dual boot option. With the option to run it as a phone, or as a tablet. It's pretty sad to see that Samsung is gonna put a lot of TouchWiz stuff over the phone's ICS.
That Asus looks very nice though. Smooth as hell, nice design etc.
I would love to see that on my Note.

I think the tablet+phone can be arranged simply by adding a button on top bar to change dpi from 320 to 213 then all apps will suit themselves in tablet mode and booting is not even needed just a simple system restart will do. Touchwiz looks terrible on 213dpi tho so there has to be an improved version of touchwiz to adapt itself to resolution changes or they may better leave touchwiz for a better ui like asus memo has. I like it cause u can still see icons in normal size yet u still have capability of all those features comes with at least honeycomb version like functional buttom bar.

Why cant we have the option of a pure ics experience or one with touchwiz.....i loved windows mobile for that.......i hate touchwiz....the moment i got my note i installed a launcher! Hope samsung reads these threads

I hope ICS release for Gnote would not be exactly the same as latest leaked roms for Galaxy S II as published on this short review video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YotByxd3Bo . This looks so like recent gingerbread roms we been already using. This is perfectly normal as nobody expects tablet specific features on Galaxy S 2 but in GNote case we all wanna see a brand new ui taking advantage of ics like Asus did on their "Memo" devices.
I've just seen this latest Galaxy S2 leaked ics video and worried Gnote ICS release may not come with some tablet specific features to feel more like honeycomb ui instead of regular touchwiz interface.
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I don't understand what problems you have with Touchwiz. The first thing I do after installing a new rom is just delete all stuff related with Touchwiz (even the Touchwiz launcher) and then install another launcher like Go Launcher Ex. In fact Galaxy Note does not need the bloatware software provided by Samsung at all but SMemo and a couple of programs that you can run with other launchers.
So in case Samsung releases the ICS with Touchwitz I will delete it.
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Even with another launcher it will still be a phone with huge screen. I'd rather like to see a tablet-like ui like Asus Memo has. I don't have any problems with touchwiz but I think they should at least add a buttom bar like honeycomb and ics tablets have.
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Any leaked firmware to try?
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captainhakan said:
Even with another launcher it will still be a phone with huge screen. I'd rather like to see a tablet-like ui like Asus Memo has. I don't have any problems with touchwiz but I think they should at least add a buttom bar like honeycomb and ics tablets have.
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Here comes a trolling scoop .......
IT IS A PHONE WITH A HUGE SCREEN......
I don't know for you, but I bought it because it is a phone.
If not I would have bought something like a HTC flyer.....taller screen and less expensive...

A phone with a huge screen deserves buttom bar like ics imao considering hardware specs and so much space avaible on the so called huge screen ! Don't you guys think so? They have buttom bar on the rumor device Galaxy S 3 so why not for flag ship Gnote?
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[4.2]Tablet UI on Android 4.2?

I've just upgraded to Android 4.2 and noticed the lack of tablet ui when I changed the DPI.
Is there any watt till get it back or has it been fully removed? I loved the old UI.
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pankomputerek said:
I've just upgraded to Android 4.2 and noticed the lack of tablet ui when I changed the DPI.
Is there any watt till get it back or has it been fully removed? I loved the old UI.
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Yeah, WTF happened? Just did the same. 160 dpi with the 213 dpi gui? No thanks.

the update has unified the tablet UI... look at the nexus 10 and you will see you are now running the "tablet' UI. there is no split in UI like there was before (ie. no tablet and phablet difference)

Of course there are changes in 160dpi. It's not the same as 213, Youtube is still totally different, market, gmail. Just navigation and notification bar are splited. But Yeah, old ui was much better. There is too much wasted space in new UI

Hopefully some custom ROMs will add this in. Its a shame, I used to be able to operate with almost one hand and now I need the other to use the notifications. Some things were added tipi the top right quick settings but I really want it on the bottom.
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That's exactly what I suspected, no tablet UI included. I am definitely won't update to this. Let's hope the community will fix that.

They're doing away with the old tablet UI to unify the devices.
-Brought to you by Marino's Galaxy Nexus-

Yeah, and that is dumb as hell in my opinion!

i dont think it is necessarily dumb. i believe it is important to not have a split experience when it comes to your OS. If you want something different that is what custom ROMs are for. But for what google is putting out they want everyone to have a similar experience no matter what device they are on. that way going from your phone to a tablet is more natural

Using Tablet UI, I experienced accidentally pressing the Nav buttons and expanding the status bar while playing games. I think keeping the buttons away from where the fingers will accidentally press them is not dumb at all. I hope they find a better way to implement Tablet UI.

When I saw that the Nexus 10 had the new UI, I feared that this would happen.

Just flashed 4.2 and it was such a pity to discover that there's no tablet ui (( I liked it so much

nickriley said:
Just flashed 4.2 and it was such a pity to discover that there's no tablet ui (( I liked it so much
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Seems tablet ui is being worked on for 4.2...
Here's some files you can beta test:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1780970&page=84
Let me know (or better yet, the dev), if they work.

ace7196 said:
Seems tablet ui is being worked on for 4.2...
Here's some files you can beta test:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1780970&page=84
Let me know (or better yet, the dev), if they work.
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Gotta give this a try when i get home! very nice! Thank you!
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Now we can have multiple user accounts on our Nexus 7... I'm wondering if it's possible to have one user running at 213 dpi and another at 160 dpi, so have different resolutions per user?
I read it's a change to the system build properties file in a thread about tablet UI, so I imagine it wouldn't be that hard for some savvy person to write a script to swap that at user logon, like in a .profile or similar, if android has those. I guess it must run as root, which is surely achievable on a rooted device... :fingers-crossed:

Key Lime Pie
Hopefully Google will figure something out for Key Lime Pie, unified UI is good for noobies but power users like us want something more and that's why we went with android.

Tablet UI

I have heard a lot about how the Nexus 10 and 4.2 does away with the tablet UI. I wanted to ask a if the Tablet UI is better in any way or does it add any functionality.
As of now I am running CM, and an important draw of ROM's like AOKP and PA is the fact that they have the option of Tablet UI. Hence, I would appreciate it if you could let me know any special features or benefits that the Tablet UI has over the default interface.
Thanks
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sidthegreatest said:
I have heard a lot about how the Nexus 10 and 4.2 does away with the tablet UI. I wanted to ask a if the Tablet UI is better in any way or does it add any functionality.
As of now I am running CM, and an important draw of ROM's like AOKP and PA is the fact that they have the option of Tablet UI. Hence, I would appreciate it if you could let me know any special features or benefits that the Tablet UI has over the default interface.
Thanks
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Not necessarily better, and it certainly adds nothing to the overall functionality of the device. It's simply a matter of personal preference. I like having the nav buttons on the bottom left as it's easy to reach with my thumb. I also prefer then look of having the status bar and nav bar combined on the bottom. I think it looks cleaner and sleeker. I'd suggest you try a ROM that offers tablet UI and see for yourself if it's something you like.

New launcher (JB 4.2.1)

Regarding the new stock launcher in JB 4.2.1 (and beyond?)...
1) How do I now switch from the three CPU performance mode? (power saving/balanced/performance)
2) How do I quickly switch wifi, GPS etc on/off without having to go to the settings?
3) The new slim bar at the top, takes up extra space? We now have even less available screen space than before?
I feel slightly annoyed by Google's idea of progress... in similar fashion to the recent YouTube app updates, the philosophy seems to be: remove features and rearrange stuff.
What do you think?
(I've posted this in the WW 4.2.1 update thread, but I think it deserves its own thread. This is not about the 4.2.1 update in general, it's about the new stock launcher)

Evan_ said:
Regarding the new stock launcher in JB 4.2.1 (and beyond?)...
1) How do I now switch from the three CPU performance mode? (power saving/balanced/performance)
2) How do I quickly switch wifi, GPS etc on/off without having to go to the settings?
3) The new slim bar at the top, takes up extra space? We now have even less available screen space than before?
I feel slightly annoyed by Google's idea of progress... in similar fashion to the recent YouTube app updates, the philosophy seems to be: remove features and rearrange stuff.
What do you think?
(I've posted this in the WW 4.2.1 update thread, but I think it deserves its own thread.This is not about the 4.2.1 update in general, it's about the new stock launcher)
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Just switch back to the old launcher in the settings menu.

monsterduc1000 said:
Just switch back to the old launcher in the settings menu.
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Thanks, I saw that option. But it is not a guarantee that it will be there ad infinitum. I wanted to make this post because maybe there is something I was missing in the new launcher.

i believe in 4.2.2 google added a long press functionality to the quick toggles to allow them to be turned on/off quickly. i know i have it on cm10.1 on my phone...
I used the new launcher for about 5 mins before reverting to the old one. I'm sorry, but it's just not practical for a tablet!
also, is it just me or is the multitasking ui kind of dumb?
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I switched mine to the new launcher (after checking here that I would be able to revert).
I don't think I lasted even a minute. I actually said ew! out loud.
Did not like that the entire bottom is just the three soft buttons, and centered as well, so i can't reach it with my thumb (I use the tablet almost exclusively in landscape mode). There may be a way to change that, but I also didn't care for the time in the small font up top either.
I hope they never force us to use that launcher. I guess there's always Nova Launcher, which I use on my phone, but don't on the tablet.
Thanks,
Brian

The 4.2 tablet UI works really well on the N7, but doesn't feel quite right on the 10.1" tabs. I really like having the dock back though, and while I appreciate the 'four corners' approach to the Honeycomb UI, I prefer having everything within my thumbs' reach. If Google used an inverted phone shade in the lower right and the on-screen buttons in the lower left for the future tablet UI, I think we'd have a winner.

Even with Nova launcher you still get the same layout.
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i actually like the idea of three buttons home back recent apps in the center, so i don't have to reach my hand to the left side, i also like that's there are 2 "notification centers" (one is the "real", the other is quick settings). but i don't like to have 2 bars on top and bottom, so i switched to the old style,
i guess i'll use the new style if they combine the 2 bars into one
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nooktablet said:
i actually like the idea of three buttons home back recent apps in the center, so i don't have to reach my hand to the left side, i also like that's there are 2 "notification centers" (one is the "real", the other is quick settings). but i don't like to have 2 bars on top and bottom, so i switched to the old style,
i guess i'll use the new style if they combine the 2 bars into one
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If everything was on the bottom bar, with notifications on the left and quick settings on the right of the ui buttons I think it'd be perfect
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new ion? said:
If everything was on the bottom bar, with notifications on the left and quick settings on the right of the ui buttons I think it'd be perfect
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That's exactly what I want
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I think you're talking about 4.1 layout (tablet mode) and 4.2 (phablet) - and as far as I read before you can easily switch between these two somewhere in Asus Settings (or device settings?) Then you should have the old layout with navbar on bottom and on the right status bar (I don't know if they cooked in the Tiles there) :good:

-angel* said:
I think you're talking about 4.1 layout (tablet mode) and 4.2 (phablet) - and as far as I read before you can easily switch between these two somewhere in Asus Settings (or device settings?) Then you should have the old layout with navbar on bottom and on the right status bar (I don't know if they cooked in the Tiles there) :good:
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i think we have in settings a field called "launcher settings" !
and yea, i still use 4.1 launcher because we have the option to lock bottom taskbar when we are playing or whatever we do. :victory:

I'm glad for the 4.1 mode. Played with 4.2 launcher mode for almost an hour, but I just couldn't get used to it. It's just wasting space. Hopefully Asus will keep this in the future too.

cr4zy.b0y said:
i think we have in settings a field called "launcher settings" !
and yea, i still use 4.1 launcher because we have the option to lock bottom taskbar when we are playing or whatever we do. :victory:
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You can lock taskbar on 4.2 mode
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new ion? said:
If everything was on the bottom bar, with notifications on the left and quick settings on the right of the ui buttons I think it'd be perfect
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This is also exactly what I want, I hope that Google gives us this layout in a future update!
Did anyone notice when using the 4.1 launcher (the older one), the UI is kind of too high on the screen? The top of my app icons are over the "google" button used to make searches and there's quite a big unused space between the system bar and the bottom apps. Not sure if I'm making any sense. Am I alone to have this issue?

No issues here
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Maybe I'm confused, but I don't really see how this allows us to multitask better. Is there an option to have two apps on the screen at a time or something? I couldn't see any real difference other than layout, so I just switched back to the old layout since I don't really like the new one. Is there anything else that changed?
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Fermion6 said:
Maybe I'm confused, but I don't really see how this allows us to multitask better. Is there an option to have two apps on the screen at a time or something? I couldn't see any real difference other than layout, so I just switched back to the old layout since I don't really like the new one. Is there anything else that changed?
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The idea is just to have a uniform layout across all devices.
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I don't know if any one has tried the old launcher but when i swithed back i couldn't get my weather widget to update. Anyone else run into this issue. Ended up going back to the 4.2.1 launcher because of it.
Got it to work removed the widget, went to apps in the setting and cleared the data and cache then reloaded widget works fine.
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I might be the minority here but I actually love the new layout
I switch the CPU mode by going to the settings. This might be annoying for some but for me, it's not a big deal as I just leave it on performance mode
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Tablet UI

Is there a way to get the tablet UI on the 2013 Nexus 7 yet????
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Gadzooks1123 said:
Is there a way to get the tablet UI on the 2013 Nexus 7 yet????
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Install the Paranoid Android ROM.
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How about a way on stock ROM? Just a mod or tweak or something?
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Gadzooks1123 said:
How about a way on stock ROM? Just a mod or tweak or something?
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Gadzooks1123 said:
Is there a way to get the tablet UI on the 2013 Nexus 7 yet????
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The Nexus 7 comes with a tablet UI, unless you are talking about the old UI from HoneyComb that was depreciated a while ago. I don't understand why people are still hung up on legacy layouts.
"It's very clear what Google is doing - keeping users' attention on two general parts of the homescreen UI. The search / voice / notification area, and the app drawer / nav button area. Just like a modern Android phone. It makes sense - the experience across all [stock-ish] devices is now extremely consistent."
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...just-like-a-giant-phones-and-thats-fantastic/

rmkilc said:
The Nexus 7 comes with a tablet UI, unless you are talking about the old UI from HoneyComb that was depreciated a while ago. I don't understand why people are still hung up on legacy layouts.
"It's very clear what Google is doing - keeping users' attention on two general parts of the homescreen UI. The search / voice / notification area, and the app drawer / nav button area. Just like a modern Android phone. It makes sense - the experience across all [stock-ish] devices is now extremely consistent."
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...just-like-a-giant-phones-and-thats-fantastic/
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Except that that is simply not the case.
On phones the navigation buttons never leave the short side of the screen leaving them easily accessible with your right thumb while in landscape. On tablets the nav bar is terrible with the buttons spread out across the bottom while holding your device in landscape. The centred buttons are barely reachable on a 7" tablet like this. On 10" devices unless you are some kind of mutant, bred to be a piano virtuoso, good luck getting your thumbs where they need to go while cradling the tablet in 2 hands. Similarly the top-of-screen based notification pull down is simply not an ergonomic solution to something that you will be doing thousands of times with your device. Again this is not so bad on a device of this size, but is seriously ridiculous on large tablets.
It is all well and good for Google to say that they want users to have the same user experience across all devices, but they do not deliver on that. Given no other option, I would far rather use this tablet in full phone mode, with navigation buttons that never leave the short edge of the screen, than use the new "Tablet UI". I have actually clicked the DPI up to 340 and find the phone UI much easier to use than the default one, with the obvious exception of the full screen notification shade (which just looks ugly on this device). At least though, this configuration would be more condusive to one handed landscape navigation.
So, for me, I am going to keep using the old tablet UI as long as Google leaves the code in there for me to use and hope that they come to their senses one day over at the AOSP and realize that they've actually taken a step backwards in terms of user friendliness.
No need for nay-sayers to jump in when someone asks for a customized user experience. That's the beauty of Android! It isn't a one size fits all, apple-corer OS. The only limit is your imagination, and how much time you want to spend learning and tweaking. I say tweak on, young man, tweak on!

rmkilc said:
The Nexus 7 comes with a tablet UI, unless you are talking about the old UI from HoneyComb that was depreciated a while ago. I don't understand why people are still hung up on legacy layouts.
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Because it's functional. The notification area is always visible even when apps are running full screen.
I can see the clock. I can see if the downloading is finished. I can see if a new email has come in.
The new Mod for tablet UI is working nicely.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/tablet-ui-mod-for-the-2013-nexus-7-on-stock-rooted-jss15q/

The ipad has a tablet ui too and its really useful. Less pressing on the back button when navigating thru the settings ap
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csrow said:
Because it's functional. The notification area is always visible even when apps are running full screen.
I can see the clock. I can see if the downloading is finished. I can see if a new email has come in.
The new Mod for tablet UI is working nicely.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/tablet-ui-mod-for-the-2013-nexus-7-on-stock-rooted-jss15q/
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The new UI is much better looking, to be fair. And the notification area on the old one felt a bit rushed - for example, if a notification came in, it hijacked the entire notification area so you couldn't get to other notifications until it was gone - or at least, that's what I thought until I figured out that (for whatever reason), notifications could be cancelled by pressing somewhere else on the navbar (in other words, that 'feature' was a nuisance and user unfriendly in many ways).
I had plenty of moments where I went to get an email by opening the notification drawer when something else suddenly notified me and I ended up somewhere I didn't want to be like Appy Geek instead.
Also, the fact that it was a tap to open instead of at least a swipe upwards made no sense at all.
I get that you power users are happy to have to practice using your technology like it's some sort of art form, but please save the rest of us the bother.

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The new UI is much better looking, to be fair. And the notification area on the old one felt a bit rushed - for example, if a notification came in, it hijacked the entire notification area so you couldn't get to other notifications until it was gone - or at least, that's what I thought until I figured out that (for whatever reason), notifications could be cancelled by pressing somewhere else on the navbar (in other words, that 'feature' was a nuisance and user unfriendly in many ways).
I had plenty of moments where I went to get an email by opening the notification drawer when something else suddenly notified me and I ended up somewhere I didn't want to be like Appy Geek instead.
Also, the fact that it was a tap to open instead of at least a swipe upwards made no sense at all.
I get that you power users are happy to have to practice using your technology like it's some sort of art form, but please save the rest of us the bother.
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Agreed, it was a very inconsistent experience. Also, trying to get expandable notifications to work properly with gestures was a pain.

That's what's great about Android on a Nexus device. You get to choose what you like and everyone will be happy.
No one option is better than another. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean someone else should not be using it.

The OP simply wanted to know if it was possible to use Table UI on the N7 v2 and everyone is on a full blown discussion of who prefers what.
Here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45084692
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I recommend trying out LMT (better than the pie control in paranoid/CM). I find it much better than having this blasted button bar using space all the time)
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Apex launcher has a tablet ui setting. For the most part is seems stock just bring the app icons to the bottom in landscape mode along with the app drawer in the upper right corner.