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I know most of us hate touchwiz but there are a couple of things samsung's done better than Google, what do you like more in touchwiz than stock ics?
1. The quick notification toggles, I know ics has a quick access to settings in the notifications but its not quite the same
2. I like more the way you place widgets in touchwiz launcher, it resembles honeycomb, I dont know why Google got rid of it in ics
3. You have spell corrections for more than one language at the same time without having to switch keyboards
That's pretty much it, touchwiz icons, colors, dialer, contacts are pretty much... horrible
In my experience Touchwiz on my GS2 is faster and smoother than stock ICS on the Galaxy Nexus. Add a live wallpaper and its no competition, Nexus chokes and dies.
Touchwiz is pretty underrated tbh.
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I'm currently using resurrection ICS custom with stock (nova) UI and I have to say that I kind of miss TW. I also think that is underrated, actually is a very nice launcher
Chad_Petree said:
I know most of us hate touchwiz but there are a couple of things samsung's done better than Google, what do you like more in touchwiz than stock ics?
1. The quick notification toggles, I know ics has a quick access to settings in the notifications but its not quite the same
2. I like more the way you place widgets in touchwiz launcher, it resembles honeycomb, I dont know why Google got rid of it in ics
3. You have spell corrections for more than one language at the same time without having to switch keyboards
That's pretty much it, touchwiz icons, colors, dialer, contacts are pretty much... horrible
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How did you come to the conclusion "most of us hate touchwiz" is it because someone started a thread on here,i would estimate many more like TW than hate it, i think TW is brilliant, ive tried every other launcher and always come back to TW as it is smoother than any of the rest of them
I would never buy a phone that I couldn't get to vanilla android the skins are ridiculous. I'm on a galaxy nexus using nova (installed through cwm for the extra features) and find the experience to be my favorite so far on android without having to rom my phone. Its snappy and clean. You like touchwiz more power to you but skins always feel to me like what they are: window dressing on the experience I want.
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I'll be gutted if Samsung ditch TW for the Galaxy S3 but i doubt they will they will just add some improvements and modifications,etc i have the TW 4G launcher with 5 docks on homescreen and it is fast and very smooth.
What Google try to do with ICS AOSP Launcher is to mimic TouchWiz features that we already had. (In the end, ICS launcher also was work cooperated with Samsung developers)
Seriously, people should get "another" Android 2.3 and see what TouchWiz bring... Even HTC sense feels really stoneage next to features of TouchWiz we don't realise until we loose them.
I love the responsiveness and the overall appearance, but there is a lot of wasted space and opportunity with TW.
Well...TW Launcher is purely Underated....if TW launcher can be modified a bit, it could be defenitely useful..i am using sensation ROM 2.0....TW launcher looks awsm in that!!
****wiz is not bad either..i only recently made the leap to Go Launcher and loving that to be honest..But still Touchwiz is pretty smooth, has good options and a good launcher all round....
Touchwiz 4.0 is the best launcher compared to motorola UI and sense 3.0 in my opinion. its not as heavy as sense and its a lot smoother than the motorola UI plus it has great features, its easy to use and works great. I love what they did when you long press the home screen to add widgets and wallpapers, i think it work really well. Sure sense is more eye candy but it eats every ressources that the phone has. So based on usability, smoothness and performance i think touchwiz 4.0 is king. If only htc would do a better job at optimizing it would probably number one. I do like stock ICS skin also, but again it isnt as smooth and well optimized as touchwiz is on the S2.
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I would never buy a phone that I couldn't get to vanilla android the skins are ridiculous. I'm on a galaxy nexus using nova (installed through cwm for the extra features) and find the experience to be my favorite so far on android without having to rom my phone. Its snappy and clean. You like touchwiz more power to you but skins always feel to me like what they are: window dressing on the experience I want.
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Whats nova?
xZeDgEx said:
In my experience Touchwiz on my GS2 is faster and smoother than stock ICS on the Galaxy Nexus. Add a live wallpaper and its no competition, Nexus chokes and dies.
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I hace read that exact sale thing so many times, the gs2 is faster than the galaxy nexus, but why? Ics is more optimized than gingerbread,maybe is because the exynos beats texas instruments?
There is only one thing that annoys me with touchwiz and that is you cant sort your apps alphabetically. Thank goodness there is an app called appzorter, pity its not working for ics yet. Well it wasnt the last time i looked al least.
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Touchwizz is NOT only the launcher.. It's the whole samsung UI elements and features (smart dial, quick toggles, media codecs, etc etc).
The problem with touchwizz is the style, general UI. Take for example the dialer: very ugly. Or the big toggle icons in notification area (they can remove text and make smaller buttons). And the general UI experience is simply poor (compare section headers and subsection headers from TW with ICS, buttons, sliders, lists and so on).
What I want? TW with ICS flavour.
Eg: ICS dialer with smart dial, ICS contacs, ICS messeging, ICS launcher with fast page switching, media codecs, general UI elements from ICS (headers, buttons, sliders, list, etc), etc.
By switching the launchers doesn't solve the problem with touchwizz as many users write here as a solution to "get ride of TW".
Touchwizz is deeply integrated in Android framework and apps.
IMHO Touchwiz is very cool for peoples who don't want many extra settings or customisations. He's also very colorfull and simple to use.
After that, I must say that ICS stock launcher seems little "cold" in the other side. I mean, it's all Blue and White and the default ICS wallpaper are little too "cold" too, but it's surely the "ICS" touch.
The tastes and colours are in the nature, in term of performances TW is not so bad, it's just miss a little more features like customisation, etc...
If samsung removed their swipe grid-icons in the application drawer, then more people would love touchwiz.
... Im sure this is the reason why some people don't like it.
I like touchwiz, but I must admit - I'd love it to have a vertical application drawer with 3D roller effect as default.
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Vertumus ICS theme makes touchwiz and the Samsung UI look very nice
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Touchwizz is NOT only the launcher.. It's the whole samsung UI elements and features (smart dial, quick toggles, media codecs, etc etc).
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So many people just don't get it. Or maybe refuse to understand.
You could sky write this and people would still not get it.
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That holds true for any OS/Software. The software/OS is judged mainly based on the UI/look, not on the functionality or efficiency.
Hi guys,
I just bought a Nexus 7 and I love it. Issue is the differences between that and the TouchWiz are getting annoying.
nothing huge but would prefer having the same on both.
This isn't a what rom is best question, but mainly which offers the closest to pure Jelly Bean for GS3?
I know Cyanomod is popular, would that be a good place to start?
Try super nexus by faryaab. That is closest to stock experience.
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Any AOSP based Rom, like pure AOSP, cyanogenmod 10 or AOKP will do, they all use the same launcher as nexus 7 just the latter two have extra features like overclocking and extra settings. AOSP is completely clean.
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delsus said:
Any AOSP based Rom, like pure AOSP, cyanogenmod 10 or AOKP will do, they all use the same launcher as nexus 7 just the latter two have extra features like overclocking and extra settings. AOSP is completely clean.
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AOKP seems to be ICS?
Start from CM10 and then move on AOSP based custom Roms.. There are aokp builds which are using jb
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Wait until jb source is out and I`m pretty sure there will be a aosp based rom. I hope so
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All AOSP roms are boring. They seem to be a little bit faster but after some time i feel there is things absent here and there.
yken said:
All AOSP roms are boring. They seem to be a little bit faster but after some time i feel there is things absent here and there.
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For me the beauty of aosp is that you add what you want to fill in the gaps. I just flashed CM9 and love it so far. The only thing I really miss is smart stay.
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Dav_prime said:
For me the beauty of aosp is that you add what you want to fill in the gaps. I just flashed CM9 and love it so far. The only thing I really miss is smart stay.
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Smart stay ex from market fills that gap
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For me the beauty of aosp is that you add what you want to fill in the gaps. I just flashed CM9 and love it so far. The only thing I really miss is smart stay.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.beansoft.eyespy.free
Here's smart stay.
One of the biggest benefits of owning an S3 is having the customized UI you are complaining about. You get a really good messaging app with lots of cool features (like zooming with volume buttons when you're in the car for example, color schemes, you can choose whatever background you like, you are not confined to eye hurting white). You get samsung apps with lots of free apps you would have to pay for, also apps specifically for the S3, optimized for looks and performance. You get direct call, smart stay. You get the smoothest and nicest looking launcher with weather. Everything working out of the box. If it's only the launcher that's bugging you, just use trebuchet, apex or nova. The rest you shouldn't really complain about IMO. Pure android is lacking in looks and functionality, also all the custom roms you install will have worse performance in both 2d and 3d.
You might be right about 3D performance but the OS on CM9 is a HELL of a lot snappier, which - for someone who doesn't play games - is more important. No home button lag either.
I bought the SIII for the hardware and consider the software to be a travesty: it's like Samsung tried to cram as much useless crap in there as possible just so they could say they did it first. Their design standards and eye for colour are hideous. Touchwiz genuinely offends me. If it were not for the sublime hardware I wouldn't touch Samsungs with a bargepole. I'm one of those people who wishes that when you booted your Android phone for the first time you got the choice of stock or manufacturer-branded firmware.
Best wishes to anyone who likes Touchwiz but it's not for me, and I thank those wonderful devs who continue to work hard on removing it and giving us hardware lovers a purer Android experience.
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leoni1980 said:
You might be right about 3D performance but the OS on CM9 is a HELL of a lot snappier, which - for someone who doesn't play games - is more important. No home button lag either.
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I'm not sure by what you mean. The launcher or the menus? They are both equal or faster on stock. No home button lag - install Jkay mod alpha for LI5 and you have that sorted as well. To me the stock android look is so poor and lacks in functionality. My Gnex on stock looks like it's an empty device with basic functionality only. It's a matter of preference I guess. I understand your point of view and wish cm9 and 10 were as fast as the stock samsung roms. They are not.
Not in the ui, not in apps. Battery life is also worse. Fact.
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I'm not sure by what you mean. The launcher or the menus? They are both equal or faster on stock. No home button lag - install Jkay mod alpha for LI5 and you have that sorted as well. To me the stock android look is so poor and lacks in functionality. My Gnex on stock looks like it's an empty device with basic functionality only. It's a matter of preference I guess. I understand your point of view and wish cm9 and 10 were as fast as the stock samsung roms. They are not.
Not in the ui, not in apps. Battery life is also worse. Fact.
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Generally I find everything on CM9 feels a lot faster. I have been on stock for most of my ownership of the S3 so I know what the stock OS feels like - whether that's with ICS or the Jellybean leaks (up to LI4). I suppose it's down to personal choice but I don't personally find any functionally to be lacking in the stock ROM on the Nexus 7. I think stock Android is beautiful and I hate the fact that Samsung feels the need to add replace perfectly good things with rubbish ones - like that crappy keyboard of theirs.
Why not at least leave the stock keyboard and the launcher installed and allow the choice for the layman. Things like Smart Stay are a bit of a gimmick, fine, and other things like the swipe to take a screenshot, S(hit)-Voice and other stupid sensor related 'features' are utter crap that no-one surely uses...for me though, the main problem is that Touchwiz is ugly. Everything from the SMS app to the uglified notification bar.
Anyway, each to their own.
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I'm still struggling with the keyboard on the sgs3 I have swift key trial currently but it would be nice to have the stock keys. Which keyboard would people recommend?
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btw what the difference between AOKP and AOSP ??
AOKP = android open kang project but I also don't know what is that =.=
XeactorZ said:
btw what the difference between AOKP and AOSP ??
AOKP = android open kang project but I also don't know what is that =.=
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Aosp is just pure Google stock experience while aokp add some additional features like theme chooser, customize layout and etc.
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markdj57 said:
I'm still struggling with the keyboard on the sgs3 I have swift key trial currently but it would be nice to have the stock keys. Which keyboard would people recommend?
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Swype. It is completely free and fast.
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The problem with Touchwiz is that is has serious lag. Open the Dialer and it takes a good second to open up. Same with all the UI its just slow.
It has a ton of good features such as slide to call and stuff but the lag is killing me.
Hello guys, my name is ps3cfw, and i'm willing to buy a Nexus 7 really soon, but as I'm not very expert with android, and the only phone i have is an LG Optimus Net/Link (AKA LG P690), that has only one custom kernel, one buggy cm9 and one buggy cm10, I usually don't have much choices with that phone, but I clearly noticed that this isn't the same with the Nexus 7, so I got some questions.
As I don't care about the battery and I want to pull out the best from the Nexus 7, and enjoy it as a full tablet as much as I can, I got these questions:
1) What ROM Should I use to obtain the best speed from this tablet?
2) Together with the ROM, what kernel should I use to, again, take the best out of this tablet?
I repeat, i just want to take out the best from this tablet, so I'm likely going to overclock it as well.
Thanks to everyone.
Guess this answers your question as well.
I haven't overclocked any PU, because I don't think it's necessary right now. It runs, as already stated in the mentioned thread, really smooth.
With PA + Apex you can create a better hybrid UI interface.. smaller nav+statusbar, no 'phone dock' etc. I don't really like the tablet UI on my nexus, but love the ability to toggle tablet UI in certain apps.
This is my home screen right now.
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Guess this answers your question as well.
I haven't overclocked any PU, because I don't think it's necessary right now. It runs, as already stated in the mentioned thread, really smooth.
With PA + Apex you can create a better hybrid UI interface.. smaller nav+statusbar, no 'phone dock' etc. I don't really like the tablet UI on my nexus, but love the ability to toggle tablet UI in certain apps.
This is my home screen right now.
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I see, i was looking for AOKP as well, it seems really cool and it seems to bring the best from the Nexus 7, what do you think?
ps3cfw said:
I see, i was looking for AOKP as well, it seems really cool and it seems to bring the best from the Nexus 7, what do you think?
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AOKP is really nice. The latest build has tablet UI baked in. I'm really enjoying it.
I have always gone on the assumption that the dev knows which kernel is best for his ROM, so I have never felt the need to change it.
Kueber said:
Guess this answers your question as well.
I haven't overclocked any PU, because I don't think it's necessary right now. It runs, as already stated in the mentioned thread, really smooth.
With PA + Apex you can create a better hybrid UI interface.. smaller nav+statusbar, no 'phone dock' etc. I don't really like the tablet UI on my nexus, but love the ability to toggle tablet UI in certain apps.
This is my home screen right now.
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dparrothead1 said:
AOKP is really nice. The latest build has tablet UI baked in. I'm really enjoying it.
I have always gone on the assumption that the dev knows which kernel is best for his ROM, so I have never felt the need to change it.
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I'm pretty sure of this fact, but I really want to pull out the BEST from this tablet, I definitely need high overclock for personal reasons, and i don't know what kernel brings the best from the Nexus 7 (because, I repeat, i'm coming from a phone which has NO SERIOUS DEVELOPERS, and just one pretty messed up kernel.)
I've just upgraded to Android 4.2 and noticed the lack of tablet ui when I changed the DPI.
Is there any watt till get it back or has it been fully removed? I loved the old UI.
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pankomputerek said:
I've just upgraded to Android 4.2 and noticed the lack of tablet ui when I changed the DPI.
Is there any watt till get it back or has it been fully removed? I loved the old UI.
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Yeah, WTF happened? Just did the same. 160 dpi with the 213 dpi gui? No thanks.
the update has unified the tablet UI... look at the nexus 10 and you will see you are now running the "tablet' UI. there is no split in UI like there was before (ie. no tablet and phablet difference)
Of course there are changes in 160dpi. It's not the same as 213, Youtube is still totally different, market, gmail. Just navigation and notification bar are splited. But Yeah, old ui was much better. There is too much wasted space in new UI
Hopefully some custom ROMs will add this in. Its a shame, I used to be able to operate with almost one hand and now I need the other to use the notifications. Some things were added tipi the top right quick settings but I really want it on the bottom.
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That's exactly what I suspected, no tablet UI included. I am definitely won't update to this. Let's hope the community will fix that.
They're doing away with the old tablet UI to unify the devices.
-Brought to you by Marino's Galaxy Nexus-
Yeah, and that is dumb as hell in my opinion!
i dont think it is necessarily dumb. i believe it is important to not have a split experience when it comes to your OS. If you want something different that is what custom ROMs are for. But for what google is putting out they want everyone to have a similar experience no matter what device they are on. that way going from your phone to a tablet is more natural
Using Tablet UI, I experienced accidentally pressing the Nav buttons and expanding the status bar while playing games. I think keeping the buttons away from where the fingers will accidentally press them is not dumb at all. I hope they find a better way to implement Tablet UI.
When I saw that the Nexus 10 had the new UI, I feared that this would happen.
Just flashed 4.2 and it was such a pity to discover that there's no tablet ui (( I liked it so much
nickriley said:
Just flashed 4.2 and it was such a pity to discover that there's no tablet ui (( I liked it so much
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Seems tablet ui is being worked on for 4.2...
Here's some files you can beta test:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1780970&page=84
Let me know (or better yet, the dev), if they work.
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Seems tablet ui is being worked on for 4.2...
Here's some files you can beta test:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1780970&page=84
Let me know (or better yet, the dev), if they work.
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Gotta give this a try when i get home! very nice! Thank you!
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Now we can have multiple user accounts on our Nexus 7... I'm wondering if it's possible to have one user running at 213 dpi and another at 160 dpi, so have different resolutions per user?
I read it's a change to the system build properties file in a thread about tablet UI, so I imagine it wouldn't be that hard for some savvy person to write a script to swap that at user logon, like in a .profile or similar, if android has those. I guess it must run as root, which is surely achievable on a rooted device... :fingers-crossed:
Key Lime Pie
Hopefully Google will figure something out for Key Lime Pie, unified UI is good for noobies but power users like us want something more and that's why we went with android.
Just wondering.. Does anybody else know that their beloved Tablet UI will NOT be in the Official 4.2 update? The New notification widgets wont be able to support the tablet ui Notification area. What are your thoughts on this?
I want a tablet, not a bigger phone. I don't like the new UI and I hope that Asus will keep the current one or at least provide it as an option.
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I just install a different launcher from google play(nova, apex..), problem solved. Big deal is when will asus release 4.2 update for our tablet ?
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I just install a different launcher from google play(nova, apex..), problem solved. Big deal is when will asus release 4.2 update for our tablet ?
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more than the launcher, i think the concern would be the change to the notification bar, because in 4.2 there is a status bar and the lower bar are just the 3 buttons, basically a big phone, maybe asus willl find a way to theme nicely the two panel pulldown thingie!
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Y should Asus change something (except the bloatware)? I think they didn't do it in 4.1 so they won't do it in 4.2 except the navbar button style... - only good thing would be to get a bigger area for the top bar, because I nearly can't touch it because of the case which is a bit awful, but this UI is awesome, you just have to use it for a time and also on your phone - navbar buttons in the middle is a bit awful with dock use, that's the only disadvantage...
I will stay on 4.1 if we don't get tablet UI on 4.2, or before someone will made a port of tablet UI for 4.2, the phablet UI just sucks!
On my cusions nexus 10 its the phablet ui, you can't change the LCD density to make it tabletui, you can only make the phabletui bigger or smaller
It is highly likely that Asus keeps the tablet ui. No sense in changing the UI that radically in an ota, the non techy people would have a hard time with it.
Though for the record, the hybrid ui is great on the Nexus 7.
That sucks...no tablet ui supported.
Honestly its weird but I like tablet ui on my note 2 and phablet ui on my transformer.
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Phablet UI is a mess. It is silly to have such UI on 10 inch screen. I cannot be more user unfriendly. It is total disaster from ergonomic point of view I hope Asus will keep tablet UI or I will either stay with 4.1 on use some custom ROM.
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Phablet UI is a mess. It is silly to have such UI on 10 inch screen. I cannot be more user unfriendly. It is total disaster from ergonomic point of view I hope Asus will keep tablet UI or I will either stay with 4.1 on use some custom ROM.
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Remember, they're appealing to the masses by keeping the ui consistent between tablets and phones. However, i don't see why they couldn't remove the status bar and put the buttons in the middle or slightly shifted to the left, keeping the bottom bar ( its lots of unused space) and toggles on the left of the buttons.
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4.2.1
I had 4.2.1 on my galaxy tab 10.1 for a while.
I think it is a desaster.