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What programs are safe to remove?

Hey guys,
I permarooted my phone yesterday, and got rid of amazon mp3 via titanium back up. There's so much more I want to get rid of, but I don't want to delete something essential to the ROM resulting in force closures forever.
I wouldn't mind so much if I was using some sort of recovery with the complete ROM zip in my SD card.
Back to the point, what can we safely delete?

just back up the apps before you uninstall them, then if you have any issues you can just put it back

I found out the hard way, titanium does not backup system apps.

thebitjockey said:
I found out the hard way, titanium does not backup system apps.
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I thought TB did in fact backup system apps. Maybe when I did it with TB it wasn't really backing them up, but it gave me the option to do it so I did. Figured I would back up the system apps to the ROM in case it was somewhat difficult to un-root if needed.

TB backs up only system data, not the apps themselves.

floepie said:
TB backs up only system data, not the apps themselves.
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But it can restore the apps from the backed up data, or am I totally not getting what the batch file for the system app is for?

I deleted everything I didn't want.. No issues
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Scoop24 said:
I deleted everything I didn't want.. No issues
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Same here no issues.

mlockman said:
But it can restore the apps from the backed up data, or am I totally not getting what the batch file for the system app is for?
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For me, it backed them up and I did see the compressed files. Upon further examination, the compressed files were empty.
What someone else said is true, it does backup the data but it does not backup the app yet it will delete the apps APK files from the /system/app directory. Basically, no way to restore them.

freeze an app first... make sure you get no FC or problems...
then delete it

mlockman said:
But it can restore the apps from the backed up data, or am I totally not getting what the batch file for the system app is for?
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TB can backup only system app data, that is data from the apps built into the ROM. It does however back up both user apps themselves (elective apps you download) in addition to their data.

Scoop24 said:
I deleted everything I didn't want.. No issues
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Same here no issues.
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I think he just wants to know which apps everyone removed to avoid any issues a head a time.... like a list of what you removed if your not having any issues whats so ever...
I havent got a OTA yet so I cant remove anything either way but if your still waiting to get confirmation on whats def safe to remove Ill let you know when I do it

^^ Great, thanks. There are so many threads and questions about bloatware, methods of removing said bloatware, and which ones are safe to remove.
A running list would be great, and I suggest that additional posts be more specific to assist the more timid amongst us. Thanks.

Could someone be kindly enough to explain what is this permarooted thing for? I did a search and there's guide on how to do permaroot only. and yes I r a nub, my first android. :X

can someone compile a list of safe things to remove?

Please post questions in Q&A section.

I took out a few things yesterday and found out two important things:
1) Even after removing Facebook for Mytouch you cannot add a Facebook sync account using the market Facebook app.
2) Titanium will not restore apps like Peep or Facebook for Mytouch. It lists it as backed up, but there is no option to restore. ('restore all apps and system data' yielded the same results)
There was an alternate FB app out there for a while that fixed the sync issue, but for myself I just reverted to my nandroid backup.
However, aside from the issue above, I experienced no issues on the phone after removing:
Facebook for Mytouch
Peep
News sync
News
Asphalt, RB, etc
I think I removed a few others but don't want to guess at names and spread misinformation.
May I suggest someone compile a list and create a stickie topic for it?
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^^ Yeah, well Titanium cannot backup system apps, and therefore, cannot restore them! It only backs up and restores their data.

@Hinouchi
Rooting is the process of, basically, gaining full access to make changes to your phone.
Permarooting is a term used specifically relating to the G2 and Mytouch, which were "designed" to revert changes such as rooting after the phone is rebooted. Permaroot is a process by which you bypass this manufacturer "safety feature" and obtain *perma*nent *root* access.
I suspect you may find a better explanation on Wikipedia, but that's the gist of it.
EDIT: No worries on the content of your question, we're all "n00bs" at something
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@floepie
So it would seem! Though I don't recall ever seeing that in what documentation there is for the app.
I'll look again and email the dev if I can't find anything.
There are certainly other ways to backup/restore those apps, but the capability to do so in Ti would be some kind of awesomesauce
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[Guide] The quickest way to switch ROMs using xRecovery (Backup/Restore)

Here is a small step by step guide explaining how to quickly switch ROMs on the xperia x10, for people that don't know how to.
As far as I know, this is the closest thing to a dual-boot, as dual-boot isn't possible atm, but it is very easy and quick to do
1) Boot xRecovery
2) Go to backup/restore
3) Choose Backup and wait for the backup to complete
4) On your SD Card, locate to xrecovery/backup and rename your backup to something you will remember, making sure not to have any spaces in the name, as this will show a mismatch error.
5) Now you can wipe the phone and install whichever other ROM you want.
Setup your new ROM with all your contacts, apps, etc.
6) When you want to go back to your original ROM that you had in the first place, follow steps 1 to 4 above to backup your new ROM
7) Then wipe your phone in xrecovery again, and go to backup/restore, choose restore, and choose the folder you backed up earlier
8) Now your phone will be back to the way it was before you wiped it in the first place.
9)now you can use these 2 backups, and easily switch between the two, by restoring a ROM when you need to
That is what I do and its very quick, and easy to do

Thanks, i dont find it that fast, back up takes like 10 min, not sure about restore.
Good guide
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This isn't dual booting at all

robbyf66 said:
Thanks, i dont find it that fast, back up takes like 10 min, not sure about restore.
Good guide
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Well it does take 5 - 10 mins, but that's fast to me lol (i'm a very patient guy lol)

Brent87 said:
This isn't dual booting at all
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Which is why I put this is the closest thing to dual-boot
I have changed the topic title, to save confusement

dual boot lol. Thats jus backing up then restoring!

cuddles100 said:
dual boot lol. Thats jus backing up then restoring!
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Which is why it says "THE CLOSEST THING TO DUAL-BOOT" It doesn't say it is dual boot!

Now it makes sense, good guide

could you move the back up file on your sd card to your computer if you need more space on your sd card and then move it back when you want to switch or would this create too many problems with xrecovery

miniGT said:
could you move the back up file on your sd card to your computer if you need more space on your sd card and then move it back when you want to switch or would this create too many problems with xrecovery
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yes, you can transfer the folder of your backup to your computer, and transfer it back again when you need it

Hi,
Maybe a good idea to explain the re-naming of backups abit further as xrecovery is wel known to produce md5 mismatch errors when there is spacing between the letters.
Good idea too-well done.

This is great news, I've been reluctant on trying new roms but when restoring is this easy I will finally give them a try!

when you do a backup, does it backup everything? contacts, apps and apps' data? (things stored in phone memory, not SD card)
and the same, does it restore everything?

Jesus if you didn't know this stuff you shouldn't even be using xrecovery or flashing ROMs.. pointless noob thread IMO

fiscidtox said:
Jesus if you didn't know this stuff you shouldn't even be using xrecovery or flashing ROMs.. pointless noob thread IMO
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It's a good idea mate as if it stops one person spamming a thread with a question about xecovery then its worth the effort in my eyes, better to help than not to help.

fdomartineza said:
when you do a backup, does it backup everything? contacts, apps and apps' data? (things stored in phone memory, not SD card)
and the same, does it restore everything?
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Yes, it backs up everything on the phone memory, so that when you restore it, it is exactly the way it was before you backed it up

fiscidtox said:
Jesus if you didn't know this stuff you shouldn't even be using xrecovery or flashing ROMs.. pointless noob thread IMO
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The reason I made this post was because not everyone knew they could do this, and they wanted to try other ROMs but thought they'd have to start from scratch after they'd tried another ROM

agreed! good post man! thanks.

so do you have to wipe? or can you just restore the other ROM?
thanks

Good guide for a n00b like me.
so.. if I can just switch between roms using xrecovery backups, suppose theres really no need for Flashtool and apps such as Titanium?
or do people still use Flashtool because certain custom roms can only be flashed using Flashtool or to modify their basebands...etc?

RSA key is missing

i'm not sure how long my 4G hasn't been working. I tried to use it today and it would go to connect and then disconnect it would keep doing that over and over again. I'm using mikg rom the newest one. I downloaded the Wimax key checker and it says my rsa key is missing. What are the steps to retrieve. Is there a way to Get it back? Thank you for any help
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kronik420 said:
i'm not sure how long my 4G hasn't been working. I tried to use it today and it would go to connect and then disconnect it would keep doing that over and over again. I'm using mikg rom the newest one. I downloaded the Wimax key checker and it says my rsa key is missing. What are the steps to retrieve. Is there a way to Get it back? Thank you for any help
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I've seen a user recently ask the same and apparently the only way to get the RSA key is if you had a backup of the key within the recovery, other than that you might be SOL.

If you didn't have a backup with your rsa keys then your SOL sorry. If you do have a backup but u dont know if you backup up Wimax you can use a file explorer and look for a Wimax.img in the nandroid and restore it and you should be set
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Wimax image found
How do you restore it in nandroid. I just searched my entire computer and I have found 7 copies from various times of backing up my sd card all my system. What would be the steps to restore the wimax image and not lose all my data. If that's bit the case and i need to lose all my data thats fine could you provide the steps for me. thank you.
evo4gnoob said:
If you didn't have a backup with your rsa keys then your SOL sorry. If you do have a backup but u dont know if you backup up Wimax you can use a file explorer and look for a Wimax.img in the nandroid and restore it and you should be set
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kronik420 said:
How do you restore it in nandroid. I just searched my entire computer and I have found 7 copies from various times of backing up my sd card all my system. What would be the steps to restore the wimax image and not lose all my data. If that's bit the case and i need to lose all my data thats fine could you provide the steps for me. thank you.
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Well what you could is do a backup of your current Rom and then put the Wimax.img in the nandroid and restore it
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kronik420 said:
How do you restore it in nandroid. I just searched my entire computer and I have found 7 copies from various times of backing up my sd card all my system. What would be the steps to restore the wimax image and not lose all my data. If that's bit the case and i need to lose all my data thats fine could you provide the steps for me. thank you.
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If you don't need to restore the data, open up the zip, delete everything except the wimax.img , boot into recovery > backup and restore > select that zip and flash it. Should be good to go.

Yea follow what roxxorz says he's god
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evo4gnoob said:
Yea follow what roxxorz says he's god
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Lol I wouldn't go that far. Just helping out.

So since I backed up only wimax.img I can go put it in the nandroid folder, restore that and it wouldn't hurt the rom I'm using, correct?
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I hate having to restore

Does anyone else find it very time consuming to have to reinstall all of your data after every rom wipe? I find my self never leaving a rom for awhile because of the whole set up process including the Google set up.
It takes me an hour.
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I can nandroid, wipe EVERYTHING, sign back in and restore data in under 20 mins.... you must be holding the phone wrong or something bud
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This is why Titanium Backup and Mybackup Root were written...

Titanium backup does all of that for you.... 20 minutes and your new ROM is setup
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I'm a solid 20-25 minutes max.
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Rooster85 said:
I can nandroid, wipe EVERYTHING, sign back in and restore data in under 20 mins.... you must be holding the phone wrong or something bud
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I suppose Ti is best, but I haven't seen a ics friendly one available on the open seas
Nandroid? I only have 1 one my phone and thats 2.3.3 stock.
They take long to make, then they just sit there wasting space. Its not like you can just go back to them lime nothing, because by that time they'll be outdated.
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Titanium is definitely ics friendly. If you have pro (or on free.. idk), set up filters with your must have apps. When you clear data ans flash a new rom, it will verify your TB account and restore settings, including filters. Just toggle the filter and do a batch restore. I was in the same boat you were til I started doing this.
And yes, TB also has a feature to restore apps or data, extracting from a nandroid backup.
•°NS4G • ICS°•

Or you could use es file explorer. Just go to the app manager button on the central screen, by pressing it it shows up all ur apps. Choose which ones you want and back them up. After flashing just restore using file explorer in the same manner...
The apps can also be found on the sdcard under backups/apps.
Astrofile manager does exactly the same job.. your pick.
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With Titanium Backup I can be back up and running in about 10 minutes.
Sign into Gmail
Sign into Outlook
Download TB from market
Restore apps and data
Done

Does anyone partition using cmw? I think its possible to some how do that, like save Ti as the drive, so all you have to do is just sign in to Google rather than having to download it.
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Shark_On_Land said:
Does anyone partition using cmw? I think its possible to some how do that, like save Ti as the drive, so all you have to do is just sign in to Google rather than having to download it.
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just save a copy of a TB apk to your SD.

Thats if the custom rom that has a file explorer preloaded. If not has to download also from market
Another annoying thing Google doesn't add to OS besides a restart option is a built in file explorer
Shark_On_Land said:
Does anyone partition using cmw? I think its possible to some how do that, like save Ti as the drive, so all you have to do is just sign in to Google rather than having to download it.
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TB pro has an option to create a TB update.zip This will allow you to flash/install TB threw CWR

Nandroid?..............
They take long to make, then they just sit there wasting space. Its not like you can just go back to them lime nothing, because by that time they'll be outdated.
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thats ridiculous:
1. im pretty sure ive noticed mine being around 6 minutes
2. they arent a waste of space since they are a back up file. i keep 3 always deleting the oldest one.
3. you CAN go back to them at anytime like nothing
4. i make mine every wednesday while im showering (which takes more then 6 minutes)

demo23019 said:
TB pro has an option to create a TB update.zip This will allow you to flash/install TB threw CWR
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Wrong. Even the free one lets you create a flashable zip.
Moreover, you could make it build as a regular update.zip or even make it install as a system app or an user app.
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ozone89 said:
Wrong. Even the free one lets you create a flashable zip.
Moreover, you could make it build as a regular update.zip or even make it install as a system app or an user app.
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how the **** am i wrong i never said free one didn't
i said pro because that what i have

Noob question...flashed phone for first time yesterday and performed a backup using titanium free. When I flash a new rom don't you usually have to wipe data first? Would this not wipe the backup from your phone?
Thanks in advance!

It stores a copy in a folder called TitaniumBackup. If you wipe the SD card (or storage for us) that is different.
It is a hassle having to reinstall an app like Chase that requires a confirmation text. TB (Pro for me) makes restoring login info, etc a snap. Worth the $.

Nick N said:
It stores a copy in a folder called TitaniumBackup. If you wipe the SD card (or storage for us) that is different.
It is a hassle having to reinstall an app like Chase that requires a confirmation text. TB (Pro for me) makes restoring login info, etc a snap. Worth the $.
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So when I flash a new rom and wipe data, the SD card (storage) is not wiped?
Thanks!
Brett

Skillz1318 said:
So when I flash a new rom and wipe data, the SD card (storage) is not wiped?
Thanks!
Brett
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Noob replying to a noob (so pardon me, if i stumble):
When flashing a new ROM, you wipe - system, dalvik cache, data and boot ( perhaps not reqd.) Wiping SD card not required when installing new ROMs, unless it's the first time, and you're putting CWR on a Nexus S... However, some developers do recommending a full SD Card wipe as well. I assume you copy the Titanium backup folders to your PC, and copy it back before restoring.. Haven't tried that yet..
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Probably will have to buy Pro, since it's getting to be a pain to restore my apps, with the permissions for each one...
Somehow, TiBackup doesn't seem to restore my homescreen settings, though I remember reading somewhere that it should do that as well..
Also, learnt the hardway not to try restoring Call logs and Messages when moving from a GB ROM to an ICS ROM... Boot loops with 2 ICS roms (Nexusbeam and Brainmaster's )
So, what all can you restore using TiB with your eyes closed?

I am still new to this phone, but with the Evo we had a zip file that wiped the system, data, cache, etc instead of remembering which ones to wipe. Maybe there is something like that for the Nexus?
I only restore apps, so I am not much help outside of that. With TB Pro all you have to do is click batch and restore all the apps with data automatically while you sit there and wait. I generally restore user apps only, maybe someone else can chime in with advice on restoring settings?
There is also an option to save backups on your drop box account, but I don't.
I am a flashaholic, one of the reasons I bought a used NS4G was because I was bored with the Evo. Titanium Backup (Pro) makes it fast and easy to restore apps and data when flashing new ROMs.

[Q] Can I root S4 without wiping data?

I really dont want to have to backup all my contacts text messages and what not and have to re-sync all of my data. So is there a way to root it without wiping all my data or is that impossible? Thanks.

Yup it can be done have a Google and read a few time like I did and it worked,
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htcmodteam said:
Yup it can be done have a Google and read a few time like I did and it worked,
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Thanks. I just checked out the sticky on here for the new root method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387577
Will that keep all my data?

Also I'm on AT&Ts latest MF3 build. If that makes a difference. Sorry this is the first time I have every tried rooting a phone.

Dude.. if you already find the correct thread. Why don't you ask there. I guess it will not wipe your data. At least on mine it didn't but I my contacts are stored on my gmail account. So my best advice is ask on the thread..
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This doesn't format your ROM it uses your sdcard to install root So you will have to wipe your sdcard. So any pictures or other items on it you will loose when you format it.
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CavyS said:
Also I'm on AT&Ts latest MF3 build. If that makes a difference. Sorry this is the first time I have every tried rooting a phone.
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And why are you rooting?

Can I Root without "Wipe," to recover accidentally deleted photos?
I'm on NC1.
I need to "Root" without wiping the Internal Memory.
I was using Internal Memory for photos and in a state of stupor (I assume), deleted a folder I thought I moved to my PC.
So the files are now deleted. I want to use one of the many recovery tools but thus far, all that I can find require "Root" access.
BTW: As an aside, does anyone else experience issues with copying too/from Internal Memory to a PC and the files seemingly go, or at least them are visible in Explorer, but then after disconnecting the phone, when you look for them, they are not there?