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Flashing a new ROM on rooted Eris and other questions

I know there are tutuorials for this. I found a few and most of them either expect me to fully understand adb shell commands or understand linux, of which I do very little. I have the rooted 2.1 OTA on my Eris currently. I wanted to start trying out other ROMs on the phone. I've done a nandroid backup, but from searching around I read that it doesn't back up apps or user data, to an extent.
1) I get the error message "Run Nandroid +ext via adb!" when trying to backup everything using nandroid + ext. I also get the same message when trying to use a BART backup.
2) What is the difference between the two? (BART and nandroid)
3) What are the adb commands to use these?
4) How can I make a complete "screenshot" of my phone to restore everything back to its current state? Is this what BART/nandroid+ext do? I need to be sure in case I need the phone restored to working status very quickly.
5) Is apps2SD really that useful? I only run like 45 apps.
6) Does overclocking have any downsides? (I know the phone can lock up if you push it too far, so other than this.)
I think that's it. I've softmodded consoles and a few random electronics but phones are a new one. Sorry if half of these have been answered. I haven't been able to find much about this stuff in laymen's terms.

Raikalo said:
I know there are tutuorials for this. I found a few and most of them either expect me to fully understand adb shell commands or understand linux, of which I do very little. I have the rooted 2.1 OTA on my Eris currently. I wanted to start trying out other ROMs on the phone. I've done a nandroid backup, but from searching around I read that it doesn't back up apps or user data, to an extent.
1) I get the error message "Run Nandroid +ext via adb!" when trying to backup everything using nandroid + ext. I also get the same message when trying to use a BART backup.
2) What is the difference between the two? (BART and nandroid)
3) What are the adb commands to use these?
4) How can I make a complete "screenshot" of my phone to restore everything back to its current state? Is this what BART/nandroid+ext do? I need this in case the ROM doesn't work/I screw something up.
5) Is apps2SD really that useful? I only run like 45 apps.
6) Does overclocking have any downsides? (I know the phone can lock up if you push it too far, so other than this.)
I think that's it. I've softmodded consoles and a few random electronics but phones are a new one. Sorry if half of these have been answered. I haven't been able to find much about this stuff in laymen's terms.
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1) if you get that message on restore 99% of the time that means your battery is low.
2) I have no idea what the difference is, but NAND always works great for me.
3) You would need to flash the parts of a NAND Backup via fastboot (correct me if I'm wrong). It's a pain in the ass for the most part.
4) NAND backup and restore makes a "screenshot". It will turn your phone to exactly how it was when u made the backup (make sure you wipe first though )
5) APP2Sd is only if you feel you need it. I use it, but is not required at all. If you have enough free space that why bother, but if not it's good utility to have available.
6) OC is awesome only downside is battery and that is barely their. You can also bork your phone if you set it to high. Some phones can handle over 710 some cannot. The only way you will know for yourself is if you try!
Go for the aloysius rom if you need a or want a new rom to flash

Awesome, thanks. I'll check that ROM out and see if I can get to flashing after work.
1) This isn't when restoring, it's when I'm trying to actually make a backup. Nandroid works fine, but nandroid +ext and BART both give me errors about adb.
Any other suggestions/answers?

Oh, one more question I forgot.
Code:
adb pull data/app desktop
Was using this to pull apps from my phone to the computer. After I did, I couldn't find them on the computer. I assumed they'd go to the desktop, but apparently I was wrong? Where are they?

Raikalo said:
Awesome, thanks. I'll check that ROM out and see if I can get to flashing after work.
1) This isn't when restoring, it's when I'm trying to actually make a backup. Nandroid works fine, but nandroid +ext and BART both give me errors about adb.
Any other suggestions/answers?
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You only have to do nandroid without the +ext. You only use ext when you have a partition on your sd card (for running apps2sd). Try a plain ole nandroid. As far as bart goes, I've never heard of anybody using it.

is there a way to name the nandroid backups so you know which one is which when you go to restore? or can you only have one at a time?

duscar said:
is there a way to name the nandroid backups so you know which one is which when you go to restore? or can you only have one at a time?
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You can have as many as your sd card will hold. They will be in folder on your sd card called "nandroid" and you can rename however you see fit, just make sure you Do Not put any spaces in the name.

rentjr said:
You can have as many as your sd card will hold. They will be in folder on your sd card called "nandroid" and you can rename however you see fit, just make sure you Do Not put any spaces in the name.
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if i rename them there, does it rename them in the restore menu so i know which is which?

duscar said:
if i rename them there, does it rename them in the restore menu so i know which is which?
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Okay, if a nandroid backup makes a total system image incl. apps and user data, I should be good to go.
Still wondering about how to pull apks and where they go. Any ideas there? See one of my above posts about it.
Also, I need to backup my ENTIRE SD card before a wipe, right?

Perfectly Clone one Vibrant to another vibrant

I have a Vibrant with fusion 1.1 that is going back to T-mobile. Is there a way to just clone everything on this phone to the new phone.
Can I just copy Titanium backup form the old phone and put it on the sd card of the new one. Is there a better method?

You need to flash back to stock using odin, just go to the development section and click om the.sticky, under odin roms. Click the.stock one and flash,
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iwillkillyou said:
You need to flash back to stock using odin, just go to the development section and click om the.sticky, under odin roms. Click the.stock one and flash,
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That wasn't his question... Like at all...
I'd do a nandroid and back up the apps and data in titanium and save them to the SD and then put that SD in the new phone that comes.

Oh haha sorry I didnt read the whole thread, yea peform a nandroid
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kuhan said:
That wasn't his question... Like at all...
I'd do a nandroid and back up the apps and data in titanium and save them to the SD and then put that SD in the new phone that comes.
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What would happen if I copied all the contents of the internal memory (all files ,all folders) then copied those over the contents of the new phones internal memory?. Nandroid and TB are not normally saved to the external SD card.
Or should I just load the new rom on the new phone and just copy the TB folder to the new phone and restore from that?

Nandroid and titanium are a good start but neither of those will do things like modem files.
So I would add on the new phone do a base install of fusion 1.1 with the appropriate kernel, i think you said was your rom, then a nandroid restore and that should get you there

ransome7 said:
I have a Vibrant with fusion 1.1 that is going back to T-mobile. Is there a way to just clone everything on this phone to the new phone.
Can I just copy Titanium backup form the old phone and put it on the sd card of the new one. Is there a better method?
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I'll chime in with my opinion. Granted my opinion comes from my experiences constantly experimenting with different roms. I've flashed the phone this month almost as often as I've received actual phone calls for crying out loud!
The amount of time expended on looking for such a perfect method seems to be greater than the amount of time spent merely reconstructing an equivalent environment.
Keeping all of my contacts on google and using appbrain to have the ability to keep a known inventory of apps...I can reconstruct my daily driver environment from one rom to another in about 30 minutes max without the need to explicitly backup anything.
Though this may not work for everyone, it surely would work for most. Just a thought...

Using AppBrain would mean you would have to constantly re-download your apps. Also, this does not save the settings and what about apps that are not on the market?
I use Titanium Backup if I want to transfer all my apps and settings. Nandroid would be very appropriate to transfer over all the of phone's data, granted you also manually include the correct modem and kernel.
Doing a Titanium Restore surely takes less time then redownloading and installing from the market, especially if you have the Pro version as it is MUCH MUCH quicker.

kangxi said:
Using AppBrain would mean you would have to constantly re-download your apps. Also, this does not save the settings and what about apps that are not on the market?
I use Titanium Backup if I want to transfer all my apps and settings. Nandroid would be very appropriate to transfer over all the of phone's data, granted you also manually include the correct modem and kernel.
Doing a Titanium Restore surely takes less time then redownloading and installing from the market, especially if you have the Pro version as it is MUCH MUCH quicker.
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Titanium can save some time, but honestly not enough to write home about, at least for me. It's a matter of a few minutes different in my experience.
The reason why I do not use Titanium, despite the fact that it can save some time is that it can lead to complications especially when bouncing between 2.1 and 2.2 derivative roms, depending on what you back up of course. I'll use it when I'm staying within the domain of 2.1...or staying within the domain of 2.2. Crossing those domains however I never use Titanium. I've had more problems than not, and admittedly that may be due to my ignorance of what things are truly safe to restore across different versions of Android.
Then again I'm probably unusual compared to the OP, in that I experiment with EVERYTHING, up to and including a little bit of my own firmware cooking after the fact. Every firmware and experimental firmware and filesystem hack has at some point been on this phone, but that's how I roll.
Doing without deliberate backups hasn't drastically changed my restore times. Setting up the few apps that require setup takes a matter of seconds when I decide to use that app.

It's nice to get a fresh install - just TB and and reinstall after!
iwillkillyou said:
Oh haha sorry I didnt read the whole thread, yea peform a nandroid
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You didn't even read the title of the thread before clicking it, bro....
-bZj

if you want exact - nandroid
otherwise use TitaniumBackup Pro

This is what I would do. I would perform a nandroid. After doing so I would then copy everything in the internal sd to your computer. When the new phone comes. Copy everything into the new phone's internal sd. Root your phone, install clockwork mod. Flash a new rom if you want if not no biggy. Load up into clockwork mod, do an advanced restore, restore data only. Reboot. Reboot again. Load back into clockwork mod, clear cache and dalvik. Reboot twice. Run fix permissions. Reboot. Everything should work with no errors and it will look identical to your last vibrant. You could condense this but I wrote it so that you could install buncha diff roms without having to do titanium restore because that just takes a ****ing long time if you have a **** load of apps installed.

Mouahmong said:
This is what I would do. I would perform a nandroid. After doing so I would then copy everything in the internal sd to your computer. When the new phone comes. Copy everything into the new phone's internal sd. Root your phone, install clockwork mod. Flash a new rom if you want if not no biggy. Load up into clockwork mod, do an advanced restore, restore data only. Reboot. Reboot again. Load back into clockwork mod, clear cache and dalvik. Reboot twice. Run fix permissions. Reboot. Everything should work with no errors and it will look identical to your last vibrant. You could condense this but I wrote it so that you could install buncha diff roms without having to do titanium restore because that just takes a ****ing long time if you have a **** load of apps installed.
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Thanks for the lengthy explanation , that makes the most sense.
I will try this method . Thanks for taking the time.

Hey rancome7 - did you try this method? How did it work for you.. I may just do this right now as im in the same situation of wanting to clone my Vibrant to a new Vibrant

Question - wont restoring data from a nandroid after installing a new ROM cause the rom to act funny since the old data may not agree with it or overwrite something?

[Q]TWRP Backup Questions

Rooted 6.2.2, TWRP installed. I ran backup of the stock ROM, before I install a different ROM like CM7 or the ICS that is being developed do I need to copy that backup off the Fire? After the new ROM has been flashed, does that backup stay on the Fire or does the flashing process wipe it out?
Also, after restoring that backup......am I completely at the point when I took the backup? Data, apps, etc should be just as they were when I took the backup?
THANKS

The backup image is stored in TWRD directory with the data and time name. Rename it as your stock Tom for future use.
The contents of the backup as a defualt has ROM and your application if you did not change parameters
Regards
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Just remind you that I have got a weird issue that some of my games does show their icons and when I type to them it says something like "Cannot load, restart Go Launcher" ( I use Go Launcher). I found no way to restart my launcher so that I just reinstall them and it's fine.

ammubarak said:
The backup image is stored in TWRD directory with the data and time name. Rename it as your stock Tom for future use.
The contents of the backup as a defualt has ROM and your application if you did not change parameters
Regards
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cruel91 said:
Just remind you that I have got a weird issue that some of my games does show their icons and when I type to them it says something like "Cannot load, restart Go Launcher" ( I use Go Launcher). I found no way to restart my launcher so that I just reinstall them and it's fine.
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Thanks for the replies, but they don't answer my questions.

ontwowheels said:
Rooted 6.2.2, TWRP installed. I ran backup of the stock ROM, before I install a different ROM like CM7 or the ICS that is being developed do I need to copy that backup off the Fire? After the new ROM has been flashed, does that backup stay on the Fire or does the flashing process wipe it out?
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The backups go to /sdcard/TWRP/backups/...
Unless you wipe your SDCARD they should not be touched.
You can always, copy them onto your computer if you want... which would be useful if you had to like replace the hardware and wanted to restore it onto the new hardware.
Also, after restoring that backup......am I completely at the point when I took the backup? Data, apps, etc should be just as they were when I took the backup?
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Depends on what you backed up (What options you chose).

krelvinaz said:
The backups go to /sdcard/TWRP/backups/...
Unless you wipe your SDCARD they should not be touched.
You can always, copy them onto your computer if you want... which would be useful if you had to like replace the hardware and wanted to restore it onto the new hardware.
Depends on what you backed up (What options you chose).
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Thanks....any suggestions on the options? Select all of them I assume? lol
Just like an image taken on a computer, when I restore it, I would want to be at the exact point where the image was taken. System, apps, data, etc.

the answer to ontwowheels question isn't truly answered yet. Like him, i'm rooted, with TWRP, and trying things out. i'd very much like to try MIUI but its not clear if i can completely revert back to stock Kindle [admittedly there are several conveniences i like about but unfortunately it aint a-la-carte unless i foolishly dive in making my own ROM!]. Can someone please provide some guidance as to what must be backed up to restore stock kindle again, just as i left it [settings, preferences, apps, registration with amazon and market, etc] or if that's even possible, or what won't be restored. i'm not a developer and i hesitate to go with trial and error
thank you very much for your patience

mebobbob said:
the answer to ontwowheels question isn't truly answered yet. Like him, i'm rooted, with TWRP, and trying things out. i'd very much like to try MIUI but its not clear if i can completely revert back to stock Kindle [admittedly there are several conveniences i like about but unfortunately it aint a-la-carte unless i foolishly dive in making my own ROM!]. Can someone please provide some guidance as to what must be backed up to restore stock kindle again, just as i left it [settings, preferences, apps, registration with amazon and market, etc] or if that's even possible, or what won't be restored. i'm not a developer and i hesitate to go with trial and error
thank you very much for your patience
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To restore stock just use TWRP to flash the update.zip found on amazon. Once you download it, you will have to rename it to whatever.ZIP instead or whatever.BIN. Once that's done, go to settings on the stock ROM and hit device, then factory reset and you should be good to go

[HOWTO] Backup Hp touchpad without rebooting online Nandroid 6.10 thanks to ameer

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620255
New version 6.10 released with HP Touchpad boot partition backup and other bug fixes. version 6.10
again ameer made this happen for hp touchpad
go there hit the thank you button show some love for him he showed some love for hp touchpad users
and if you have nothing better to do hit the thanks button here to lol lol lol :angel:
Gesture keyboard cm9 and cm10 latest works nice check it out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33598257#post33598257

netkillercat said:
http://forum.xda-dev...d.php?t=1620255
New version 6.10 released with HP Touchpad boot partition backup and other bug fixes. version 6.10
again ameer made this happen for hp touchpad
go there hit the thank you button show some love for him he showed some love for hp touchpad users
and if you have nothing better to do hit the thanks button here to lol lol lol :angel:
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thanks fixed link
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Still not working?

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Still not working?
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it does work. i just checked .

Link works fine
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hi:
i am very late to this party. please forgive my questions ..
there are some 1270 posts in that thread and i just cant read that many
is this a backup / restore alternative to apps like .. titanium
is there a final working guide and maybe FAQ ?
i would like to have something that makes complete backup of all apps, settings , prefs, data , etc..
thanx..

amkaos said:
hi:
i am very late to this party. please forgive my questions ..
there are some 1270 posts in that thread and i just cant read that many
is this a backup / restore alternative to apps like .. titanium
is there a final working guide and maybe FAQ ?
i would like to have something that makes complete backup of all apps, settings , prefs, data , etc..
thanx..
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Not exactly. This is an alternative to another backup tool, nandroid, which is an image backup of your entire Android installation (not just apps and data like Tiranium). If you restore a nandroid everything is exactly the way you had it at the time you backed it up: settings, preferences, apps, data, etc.

this is like using clockworkmod but with out rebooting
So it backs up everything boot/ sys/ data/ cache/ like clockworkmod but no rebooting needed for lazy people like me lol

bananagranola said:
Not exactly. This is an alternative to another backup tool, nandroid, which is an image backup of your entire Android installation (not just apps and data like Tiranium). If you restore a nandroid everything is exactly the way you had it at the time you backed it up: settings, preferences, apps, data, etc.
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thanx for your reply.
this sounds perfect..
concerning our device, is the default backup stored on "sd card" folder?
they use the term external sd card.. makes me think and actual external storage location..
is it pretty much idiot proof.. no way to fubar?
thanx again.

amkaos said:
thanx for your reply.
this sounds perfect..
concerning our device, is the default backup stored on "sd card" folder?
they use the term external sd card.. makes me think and actual external storage location..
is it pretty much idiot proof.. no way to fubar?
thanx again.
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I would actually recommend starting with a normal nandroid backup from your already-installed recovery, instead of using this alternative, first. That way you can get used to the normal way of doing things before changing it up with this. Both TWRP and CWM have the backup ability; just look for "backup" somewhere. The backup is saved on the mounted sdcard, inside /sdcard/clockworkmod. For the recovery method, unless you go in and delete your backups, it's pretty much idiot-proof. Just find the backup option in recovery, perhaps change a couple options like the file name, and hit backup.

bananagranola said:
I would actually recommend starting with a normal nandroid backup from your already-installed recovery, instead of using this alternative, first. That way you can get used to the normal way of doing things before changing it up with this. Both TWRP and CWM have the backup ability; just look for "backup" somewhere. The backup is saved on the mounted sdcard, inside /sdcard/clockworkmod. For the recovery method, unless you go in and delete your backups, it's pretty much idiot-proof. Just find the backup option in recovery, perhaps change a couple options like the file name, and hit backup.
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hi:
i did what you said.. all seemed to go just fine..
soo, what does this new thing started by the OP do that is better / different / etc..??
seems like it couldnt be easier really.
thanx

amkaos said:
hi:
i did what you said.. all seemed to go just fine..
soo, what does this new thing started by the OP do that is better / different / etc..??
seems like it couldnt be easier really.
thanx
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OP's alternative allows you do do that very same backup without rebooting into recovery, so you can keep using the Touchpad while it does a backup.

bananagranola said:
OP's alternative allows you do do that very same backup without rebooting into recovery, so you can keep using the Touchpad while it does a backup.
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oh k.. i forgot the actual post title..
that would be better.. but for me, only if its really easy
at least i now know how to do a complete backup / restore..
thanx

[Q] Revert back to stock?

I have been rooted for a while, and have always had a custom ROM but I wanna try going stock using xposed. How would I flash the stock image? Do I just treat it exactly like a new ROM? Or do I have to do something special or different? I normally use Titanium, but I will make both a titanium backup and a nandroid backup if I do this. Thank you for any help.

egasseMneddiH said:
I have been rooted for a while, and have always had a custom ROM but I wanna try going stock using xposed. How would I flash the stock image? Do I just treat it exactly like a new ROM? Or do I have to do something special or different? I normally use Titanium, but I will make both a titanium backup and a nandroid backup if I do this. Thank you for any help.
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download skipsoft android toolkit , install it and run the program as admin , after that follow the on screen instructions its really easy http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...olkit-skipsoft-android-toolkit-nexus-t1995688 :highfive:

fahadsul3man said:
download skipsoft android toolkit , install it and run the program as admin , after that follow the on screen instructions its really easy http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...olkit-skipsoft-android-toolkit-nexus-t1995688 :highfive:
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Will a Titanium backup be fine? It doesn't wipe system?

egasseMneddiH said:
Will a Titanium backup be fine? It doesn't wipe system?
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a complete system wipe is needed so just make complete app +data backups and save them on pc

fahadsul3man said:
a complete system wipe is needed so just make complete app +data backups and save them on pc
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So, make a titanium backup of system and data, copy that file on to my PC, and then once I am at stock, download titanium, put it in whatever folder it was in, and i'm good?

egasseMneddiH said:
So, make a titanium backup of system and data, copy that file on to my PC, and then once I am at stock, download titanium, put it in whatever folder it was in, and i'm good?
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its going to be lot of files , and restoring system on stock rom or any different rom than your present one, will cause issues with force closes and odd actions by your phone , as for non system apps yeah youre good

fahadsul3man said:
its going to be lot of files , and restoring system on stock rom or any different rom than your present one, will cause issues with force closes and odd actions by your phone , as for non system apps yeah youre good
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As long as I keep all my downloads, pictures, apps and data i'm fine. Just like every time I do a bakup I do all user apps only. I meant to say internal storage not system BTW. I don't care if I keep system.

egasseMneddiH said:
As long as I keep all my downloads, pictures, apps and data i'm fine. Just like every time I do a bakup I do all user apps only.
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yes

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yes
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Allright, I was also talking to someone on reddit and I think I know the best way to do this now. I'll get back to you and let you know what happens. Thank you!

You can use nexus root kit

4ringsa6 said:
You can use nexus root kit
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You can use fastboot, don't kill a kitten
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