When I was running stock, I was using about high 300-400MB.
After unlocked, rooted & installed AOKP with Nova launcher + Franco kernal, I'm at high 500-600MB, even with all the tasks killed.
Just wondering if this is normal?
Unlike a computer, android using a high amount of memory is a good thing.
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Unused RAM is wasted RAM ...
Android is freeing the memory as soon as it needs it for more important tasks, so it's OK to see almost all RAM occupied.
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AndDiSa said:
Unused RAM is wasted RAM ...
Android is freeing the memory as soon as it needs it for more important tasks, so it's OK to see almost all RAM occupied.
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Thanks for sharing. Helps alot. Do we need to clear recent apps too? Am always on 450mb-520mb of RAM and 4xxmb of free RAM in my Nexus 7...
About 50% with 92 apps installed
100% of RAM is always in use. Save for processor cache, it's the fastest storage media in the device.
Pages not mapped into process VM address space or reserved by the kernel are used for file cache.
Because read-only shared libraries can be mapped into many processes, and the entire dalvik engine is supported by hundreds of shared native libraries, having them pre-loaded into at least one process address space decreases new app loading time. Additionally, it makes computing a "memory used" statistic a little bit odd. (See for example the definition of "PSS" used by the procrank utility).
Which brings up a germane question for all participants in this thread: what are you using to report the so-called "memory used" value?
I'll bet it's not something from /proc/meminfo ...
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Hey guys if I check in he settings it shows that I have around 230 mb ram free but if I check using a taskkiller or any third party app it tells me that I have only 80-90 mb ram free when the settings menu is showing 230 mb free
Could this mean that we have less ram available and se is just making a joke of it?
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I would believe the phone, not the task killer.
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Hey guys if I check in he settings it shows that I have around 230 mb ram free but if I check using a taskkiller or any third party app it tells me that I have only 80-90 mb ram free when the settings menu is showing 230 mb free
Could this mean that we have less ram available and se is just making a joke of it?
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I believe the pgone stores cache from apps in ram to, but it can easily be overwriten by apps that reallt need the extra ram. So it's free for any app to take but not all of the free ram is unused. I believe this cache is for apps that use multitasking just to start up quickly. It's not a problem if they lose their place in the ram for a game as they'll just have to restart without (significant) loss of data.
If you check the free ram in the running services list, you can click on the free ram indicator in the bottom to see what's loaded in it.
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I believe the pgone stores cache from apps in ram to, but it can easily be overwriten by apps that reallt need the extra ram. So it's free for any app to take but not all of the free ram is unused. I believe this cache is for apps that use multitasking just to start up quickly. It's not a problem if they lose their place in the ram for a game as they'll just have to restart without (significant) loss of data.
If you check the free ram in the running services list, you can click on the free ram indicator in the bottom to see what's loaded in it.
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I see ....
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Once ur device is Rooted, install system tuner pro, and disable some of the apps u have installed from play store, disable them from boot up, and use Ram booster pro when ever Ram get Full...
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Thank you for this.
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Hi,
But why do you want more free RAM? What's the point to having more free RAM?
With Android it is useless... You are happy with 500 Mb free RAM? Well, and about the multitasking?
You think your SIII will be faster, smoother or anything else with more free RAM? This is just the opposite
These kind of threads are....
More free RAM helps me with all my multitasking, I personally use my S3 like a computer, so I would need lots of free RAM
PS. I have over 150 apps from the market installed, before this tweak I only had like 100mb of RAM free now I got like 380mb
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More free RAM helps me with all my multitasking, I personally use my S3 like a computer, so I would need lots of free RAM
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Seriously you were just in the thread that discussed why more free RAM IS NOT BETTER. stop spreading ridiculous threads of misinformation please and thanks.
How can free Ram not be better??
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How can free Ram not be better??
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Google "how RAM management works in android"
If u do alot multitasking u should not have much free ram becuz all the apps running in backround. If u close backround apps to free some ram that means u just kill the ongoing multitasking ur phone is doing and next time u go back to ur previous app it has to be started again so it actually slowsdown ur phone when ur system actually needs more ram it kills the apps by it self... so no need for that much free ram :/
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But before, I used a Turbo downloader and every time I left the app and came back the download had failed, nw none of the apps are doing this any more...
This is just my way of being more efficient... If it doesn't work 4 u then that's fine, but it is awesome 4 me
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Re,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=904023
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
And there are a bunch of others like these...
This is the placebo effect, you see more free RAM (oooh a high number !!!) and you think it is better so you feel it's better.
Sometimes higher is not better...
Free RAM on android systems is wasted ram.
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shaneel1491 said:
More free RAM helps me with all my multitasking, I personally use my S3 like a computer, so I would need lots of free RAM
PS. I have over 150 apps from the market installed, before this tweak I only had like 100mb of RAM free now I got like 380mb
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Ok, and...?
Android doesn't work like your computer (with Windows I presume) it's the opposite
You "would need lots of free RAM", it's for you not that the system needs
You have 150 apps with 100 mb of free RAM and now 380 mb of free RAM with you "tip", other than number of free RAM you see in System Tuner, What has changed???
Just the apps you use regularly/often are killed and when you open them they put so much time after like a reboot because they are not kept in memory...
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Re,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=904023
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
And there are a bunch of others like these...
This is the placebo effect, you see more free RAM (oooh a high number !!!) and you think it is better so you feel it's better.
Sometimes higher is not better...
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Thank you for posting such intelligent responses, I thought XDA was starting to become all idiots :highfive:
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Thank you for posting such intelligent responses, I thought XDA was starting to become all idiots :highfive:
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Ya, he rescued me from the mouth breathers that were trying to argue with me about CPU temp.
Xda is at risk of being overrun by idiots.
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Ya, he rescued me from the mouth breathers that were trying to argue with me about CPU temp.
Xda is at risk of being overrun by idiots.
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Hi,
Ah ah ah I agree with you LOL!
I remember the thread about the CPU temp... , yes here it's the same...
A thread about RAM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1802932 and there are others in this style
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Ya, he rescued me from the mouth breathers that were trying to argue with me about CPU temp.
Xda is at risk of being overrun by idiots.
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There is a reason this was said "Never argue with an idiot; he will bring you down to his level and win from experience". Precisely what might have happened to you the other day
LET ANDROID MANAGE HER MEMORY
Have a nice day LOL...
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There is a reason this was said "Never argue with an idiot; he will bring you down to his level and win from experience". Precisely what might have happened to you the other day
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I love a good quote!
Its so true though.
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When browsing the web and playing games on the S3 you'll often find a crash. This is because the device has low memory. Deleting apps that use this resource will help by not wasting the memory ie the RAM.
I think its fair to say that the S3 demonstrates that low ram is a reality. I wish people would stop trying to defend the phone by saying low RAM is wasted. Get over it. It is real. The S3 cannot multitask like the S2 because the ROM is packed full of ****e running which is using up the RAM.
Thanks to the OP for posting this.
and aside from what many people have said on how memory works in android,
take a look at settings > application manager > running > then click the bottom "show cached processes"
for those who like to use 3rd party memory managers they will included these cached processes in killing.
they may kill unnecessary processes but along with it those apps that you always use.
now after killing those cached processes, you will see the system caching a new list of apps and many of them are not the ones you use.
thus memory managers/task killers are just spending cpu cycles in turn battery power killing tasks/apps that you always use and when the system detects the free memory it will load apps into cache and usually those apps aren't the one you use.
thus kills the purpose of those task killers/memory managers of freeing memory since the system will just load apps into memory and cache them.
I have been looking at the few available ROMs but figured I'd ask those who have already flashed them.
The N10 sits at 1gb of usage after a fresh boot leavjng 400-500gb free for everything else. This is normally more than enough...but I like to hook it up to my TV and play games with six axis. This automatically shoots the usage up to 1.3-1.4gb of memory, sometimes leaving me with 50mb free...causing crashes.
Just curious if any app has lowered the ram usage on startup? I disabled everything I could and only use one home screen and minimal widgets so ive done all I can :-/.
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Using this right now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998585
Overclocked to 2ghz and with a few tweaks I have about 900-1000mb free
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Is anyone else experiencing high ram usage on their s4? I'm down to only about 450 mb of free memory. I barely have anything running, too.
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"Free ram is wasted ram" this is android not windows...you dont need to worry about low ram, amdroid handles ram difderntly than computers...and more efficiently. If the ram ever becomes too loaded to function smoothly android os will automatically clear the least ysed applications freeing up some ram.
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What's the best way to free the ram?
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Mohamed Khaled Mk said:
What's the best way to free the ram?
SeNt FrOm Ma GALAXY
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Under settings, application manager...one of the tabs allows you to clear apps from ram
However there is no benefits on doing this...in fact only disadvantages. Clearing apps will jot improve overall device speed, it will however require those apps that were cleared to take longer to reopen as they are no longer stored in the ram.
If a specific app is slow or not running as it usually does than it may be wise to force stop it under settings application manager
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Facebook beta 3.6 is giving me a low memory error sporadically.
Alright, I gotchu. Thanks, I'm new to this whole android, rooting, and flashing business haha
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Hey guys, I was wondering how much used memory RAM there is on the Google Edition 4.3 rom compared to the stock Touchwiz 4.3 on the s4 i9505?
On my stock Touchwiz 4.3 but de-bloated from all the Samsung junk, I have 580-620mb RAM being used, after having NOVA launcher loaded.
Any inputs are highly appreciated! Thanks
Are you thinking along the lines of used ram being a bad thing? Personally I wouldn't get too hung up on it as unused ram is not worth having in my eye's. It is there to be used is it not?
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Are you thinking along the lines of used ram being a bad thing? Personally I wouldn't get too hung up on it as unused ram is not worth having in my eye's. It is there to be used is it not?
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I just want to know about the ram. I don't care whether it's filled up later on, I am interested in whatever version has more freed up ram. More free ram = more open apps. And if Touchwiz is fully bloated, no point of having it using extra ram just for the sake of it.
I would like to add that I believe that the more free ram the more speed and smoothness. Even u have 500 mb free, 1 gb of free ram will sure make my phone faster and less hungury for battery
Ofcourse this is based on my personal experiences and lets not forget its always user dependant
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off course stock google have more free ram over touchwiz
stock is around 500mb
touchwizz, well, depends on every user, but should be around 800-1200mb
With some apps running and many widgets in my launcher I got "only" 0.97GB free of RAM using AOSP by Jamal. Hope this helps .
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Free ram is wasted ram
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Free ram is wasted ram
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Thinking in a way it is, but thinking that I have almost 1Gig free RAM without running any app means that I can use it better later. If you consider free RAM during an app process than it's really wasted, but when you're running nothing means that you can use it later. Please, when posting things like this be more clear with what you mean with your words. If you have only 100MB free RAM I'm sure when running an app it would be sluggish and not really usable.
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Thinking in a way it is, but thinking that I have almost 1Gig free RAM without running any app means that I can use it better later. If you consider free RAM during an app process than it's really wasted, but when you're running nothing means that you can use it later. Please, when posting things like this be more clear with what you mean with your words. If you have only 100MB free RAM I'm sure when running an app it would be sluggish and not really usable.
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Sorry If I did not elaborate my comment.
But yes, the reason why we all want more RAM is to be able to have more things open at a time. My point was more like, we should not measure performance by the amount of empty RAM as it is meant to be used.
Of course if you have an app that needs 500mb to run, and only 100mb available; but android is smart enough to make room for that process by closing others that have not been used in a while.
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Sorry If I did not elaborate my comment.
But yes, the reason why we all want more RAM is to be able to have more things open at a time. My point was more like, we should not measure performance by the amount of empty RAM as it is meant to be used.
Of course if you have an app that needs 500mb to run, and only 100mb available; but android is smart enough to make room for that process by closing others that have not been used in a while.
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Indeed, I understood what you meant and I agree with you too! However I just called you out to this point, as some people can misunderstand your comment ^^. Sorry if I was rude in any means BTW.
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Indeed, I understood what you meant and I agree with you too! However I just called you out to this point, as some people can misunderstand your comment ^^. Sorry if I was rude in any means BTW.
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Sure no hard feelings hehe
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i read all your stuff
but the problem with android is there is no pagefile (virtual ram)
android goes to force close apps when low ram, it is not smart as you say, force closes important apps, not system ones like play store, google+, google now, music player
instead it closes whassap, or the app you are running like a game or chrome with a heavy website, lol, even google earth can use all the ram and the phone restarts, even making a soft reboot (going default settings)
i prefer my google edition ndroid pure, with removed crap google apps (news, music, etc)
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i read all your stuff
but the problem with android is there is no pagefile (virtual ram)
android goes to force close apps when low ram, it is not smart as you say, force closes important apps, not system ones like play store, google+, google now, music player
instead it closes whassap, or the app you are running like a game or chrome with a heavy website, lol, even google earth can use all the ram and the phone restarts, even making a soft reboot (going default settings)
i prefer my google edition ndroid pure, with removed crap google apps (news, music, etc)
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Well according to my experience, the Low memory killer (in charge of closing app and releasing ram) get rid of the least used apps, in example, if you open youtube, maps, chrome, a game, and then the notes app. Its gonna close the first opened, in this case youtube. Yes it closes important apps. But at least makes sure is not the one you just used.