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Samsung Moment forum needed

Within the past week I migrated from the ROM-crazy Touch Pro to a Samsung Moment, and I'm disappointed to find that while XDA has a thriving Android community, there's barely a mention of the Moment. This is perplexing, as the Moment seems to be a very strong device.
I have found the SDX website and appreciate the good work going on over there, but it's a pretty small (though talented!) community. I would expect the Moment to gain more of a following if it were to get more exposure. Is there a reason XDA does not have a forum for this device? How would one go about requesting a new forum?

being a Moment and a CDMA Hero User i was wondering the same thing. :\

rattlez33 said:
Within the past week I migrated from the ROM-crazy Touch Pro to a Samsung Moment, and I'm disappointed to find that while XDA has a thriving Android community, there's barely a mention of the Moment. This is perplexing, as the Moment seems to be a very strong device.
I have found the SDX website and appreciate the good work going on over there, but it's a pretty small (though talented!) community. I would expect the Moment to gain more of a following if it were to get more exposure. Is there a reason XDA does not have a forum for this device? How would one go about requesting a new forum?
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This is a HTC device forum so no wonder the SAMSUNG Moment doesn't have its own forum. You can post things about the Moment in the Android Software Development section though.

I considered that, but then I noticed the Samsung Omnia and various Palm, Toshiba, and LG devices had XDA forums.

rattlez33 said:
I considered that, but then I noticed the Samsung Omnia and various Palm, Toshiba, and LG devices had XDA forums.
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No love for the Moment And I have one too

Reason would be because the XDA dev's would be pretty worthless (not an attack on them, just a statement of the following fact) at modifying and developing specific for the samsung moment. It utilizies different hardware and software that isn't found on any other android device (bits and pieces are found on other samsung devices only)... For example, the samsung moment utilizes a ONEnand chip and RFS (a samsung propritary) file system...

rattlez33 said:
I considered that, but then I noticed the Samsung Omnia and various Palm, Toshiba, and LG devices had XDA forums.
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I heard a mod said that those devices parts were made by htc and the phone was put together by htc. kinda like the nexus one thing.

Samsung Mobile and Sprint announced today that the Samsung Moment has been selected as the first phone to showcase a demonstration of a Mobile Digital TV chip.

Samsung and its Moment may not be mainstream like Motorola but I like the Moment and can't wait for the 2.1 update coming in late March or April. Should make it a better device with the improvements. At least that's the theory...

there is a forum for moment. i had it in my bookmarks but i had to do a reinstall on my comp so im searching for it again atm cuz i didnt save bookmarks.

Sadly the admins don't have time to read every thread in this forum... so it might be a better idea mentioning this in the following thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=616206
This is monitored by the admins.
Dave

Indeed.. I already posted a request for the Galaxy(S) and the Spica in the request forum. If you want others, just go post your demand in following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=616206

There is already a forum for Samsung (Android) devices.
Most Samsung users go to the SDX forum as XDA is an HTC Dev forum. I'd recommend checking there, first, as they have done A LOT in the way of development/modding/hacking/theming for the Moment.
The structure of the information provided in the guides can be a little hard to follow at first, but the guides are rather good. ROM/Update flashing is (often too) simple and the rooting process is automated in update.zip format, now.
Link: hxxp://sdx-developers.com
Personally, as a Moment user, I utilize both XDA and SDX, as great info can be found in both forums.

grayn0de said:
Personally, as a Moment user, I utilize both XDA and SDX, as great info can be found in both forums.
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Same here.

[INFO] General Info and Questions :)

I have both input and questions.
First question, directed mostly to the devs who've started this and the average transformer owner's impression of what's going on:
What do you see the future of this tablet being? do you see it as very successful with a lot of roms, or do you see it as something that slides by with not much more dev than modified stock roms?
I will update this post with information for people interested in buying the Transformer and explicitly interested in development as soon as there is new information.
Another set of points:
I've seen people ask several questions in this forum, and i've congregated these ideas and some of my own.
CyanogenMod (with enhancements from the viewsonic Gslate)
Ubuntu
Multi-booting off SD or 16g main partition
Other roms from other tablets (as cool device-manufacturer software overlays come out)
AOSP for development (honeycomb of course, google has to release source )
KERNELS KERNELS KERNELS (i can see already that this is the strongpoint in XOOM development insofar)
I will update this list as necessary.
Thanks for reading. This thread will hopefully become a congregation of information for people who WANT TO BE DEVELOPERS and are considering BUYING THIS DEVICE. I want this Tablet to be as good as a platform as my G1 has been (it's still hoppin' in there ), and what i've seen spring up on devices like the Galaxy S line (2 of those devices here), and with the xoom already.
Thanks.
I will be responsible and be updating this thread. I may imitate RoyalKnight's Rom Bible in this thread (cf. G1 or MT3GS DEV)
I also have interest in becoming a Transformer Mod, let me know if that's available (of course i want to buy the thing first) lol.
Paul at MoDaCo has one. This is good. Also no offense to BadWolve1, I didn't know there was already a Mod for this section, i'll leave the above up for timesake.

jcarrz1 said:
I also have interest in becoming a Transformer Mod, let me know if that's available (of course i want to buy the thing first) lol.
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Theres a long list
I'll leave this in Dev, as it does contain Development info.
Badwolve1

What models are being dev'd

I'm looking into buying the 183825U thinkpad but what to know if all the dev'ing is about thinkpads in general or more specific to the K1? I haven't looked at every single page of the forum yet so I may find my answer before I get back to this post. Thank you for your patience

Both have been rooted and are being dev'd further.

The "Thinkpad Android Development" sub-forum in fact has ROMs you can try out for Thinkpad and Ideapad devices (K1/A1).
There is a TPT ICS port also in progress from what I can see.
You can check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1490831
to see if its applicable to your specific device

Important is the version of the stock rom your device is shipped (For thinkpad tablet), because we only have root for devices with version 0075 or below. If you want ICS you need an WE, US or UK device. Looking at your nickname you are from germany? Then you device will be WE, so this part should be fine.

Thanks for the feedback, I just sold my acer iconia a500 and now on the search for a tpt 183825u. Koshu I live in america, been trying to learn German for years, just haven't had time time to submerge myself fully so my handle my not mean what I think it does, lol. I pretty sure it means "the crazies" but I wanted it to say "the madness" but I couldn't find a direct translation everything pointed back to "wahnsinn".

Ah, ok.^^ Well "wahnsinn" for madness is correct, craziness is more "Verrücktheit". But it depends a little on the context. "Wahnsinn" as noun is often used like "something unbelievable great". You could also say "Irrsinn" that's not exactly madness but without the ambiguity. btw. it's "der wahnsinn" and not "das wahnsinn"

Thank for the correction, in hind sight I wish I could change that lol. BTW I should have my TPT in about a week, I look forward to working with and on stuff with this community.

{PRO}[REQUEST] Developers please pay attention towards xperia pro

Hello
Developers please pay a little more attention towards the xperia pro. I've been owning it since end October an am a bit disappointed. Six months have passed and still not much custom ROMs for it. I see a lot of development going on for other new devices like the Xperia S but why not pro. Till now only three custom ROMs are available wbich is very less as compares even to the low end and legacy devices like htc chacha.
This is a humble request from all the pro owners.
PS: pro needs its own section
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I think your "PS" is more relevant than the main body of your post.
Developers are people like you and me who invest their own spare time into modding their devices. It is not up to you to demand that others make ROMs for the community, rather that WE form the community.
There are a few good Xperia Pro custom ROMs and mods about, but the problem is that they are very scattered, and the complete lack of organisation here and contradictory advice of where to discuss Xperia Pro (with randon willy-nilly thread closures), along with the intransigent attitude of some admins towards even considering the two minutes work required to create an Xperia Pro sub-section simply stunts any growth in the community.
The Xperia Pro has a significant market niche of being the only respectable GLOBAL QWERTY slider to have been released in the last year, and indeed on the market at the present time. Many people simply do not realise howw important a good QWERTY device is to some of us, and have probably not used one either to understand how superior many of us might feel that QWERTY devices are. There is no point in a 20-core 8 GB RAM phone with 7" screen if the text input is gimped (inaccurate and taking up your whole screen), and the device no longer fits in your pocket! The Xperia Pro gets this right and for those who have used it understand why it completely wallops other devices that might look better on paper.

Truely a good statement! You just took all the words in my mind!

I was trying to port MiUI to pro but my notebook fell into the swimming pool and the HDD wont work anymore. I need some time to collect money to buy another and start developing.
I need every pro owner get inspired by others and to try something.
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Cant the moderator create a sub forum for xperia pro development like ray,live with walkman n etc.?
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Well 1st and main reason probably they didn't put one is because of lack of development support? This is XDA Developers this forum was meant to be a forum for developers so I guess unless there's not much developers on a specific device then no sub forum for us.
And 2nd is we don't have that much userbase I guess it's not worth the kilobytes for each member here if there would only be a handful of threads on a subforum.

Riyal said:
Well 1st and main reason probably they didn't put one is because of lack of development support? This is XDA Developers this forum was meant to be a forum for developers so I guess unless there's not much developers on a specific device then no sub forum for us.
And 2nd is we don't have that much userbase I guess it's not worth the kilobytes for each member here if there would only be a handful of threads on a subforum.
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I think the main problem is that pro was focused towards businessmen and such peoplr. Developers generally dont fancy hw QWERTY
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I don't think so... If you go to maemo forums you'll see a userbase on which 3/4 are developers and 1/4 are regular users and all of those developers stick to that forum for 2 reasons. 1 All phones/tablets have HW Keyboard & 2 OS is linux. Sad that nokia decided to ditch those and go with windows phones. On which the main reason why I switched android.

Anyone who's interested to do something check this out. I'll start developing one I get a new notebook.
http://www.freeyourandroid.com/guide/porting-android
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Riyal said:
Well 1st and main reason probably they didn't put one is because of lack of development support? This is XDA Developers this forum was meant to be a forum for developers so I guess unless there's not much developers on a specific device then no sub forum for us.
And 2nd is we don't have that much userbase I guess it's not worth the kilobytes for each member here if there would only be a handful of threads on a subforum.
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No, the main problem is ignorance of the admins towards how unique and great this phone is. Jjust look at the manner in which devices which the admins fall for the hype for such as the Samsung GSIII receive forums before they even exist or are known about. If the American admin were living in Europe where we have a QWERTY drought then they would have understood that many of us were eagerly waiting for months before the Xperia Pro release and would have created a forum without thought. "Dual core" etc. matters not one iota to many of us if it doesn't have proper QWERTY input.
It is a chicken-and-egg situation. I believe the developers are there in the community, merely that XDA (now regrettably the main place for SE development) is so disorganised that it makes it difficult to communicate.
It would be two minutes work to create a development sub-section in Neo, and actually less work for moderators to deal with the scattered Xperia Pro discussions as we have at present.
Frankly, I wish all Sony Ericsson users would get together, abandon XDA altogether, and return to websites like Esato, sense, TopSony as they did in the old days. At least then all devices would be appreciated and understood by those in charge.
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Weigh in here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1095923&page=11
and here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1533272
to see what we are dealing with.

paul5425 said:
No, the main problem is ignorance of the admins towards how unique and great this phone is. Jjust look at the manner in which devices which the admins fall for the hype for such as the Samsung GSIII receive forums before they even exist or are known about. If the American admin were living in Europe where we have a QWERTY drought then they would have understood that many of us were eagerly waiting for months before the Xperia Pro release and would have created a forum without thought. "Dual core" etc. matters not one iota to many of us if it doesn't have proper QWERTY input.
It is a chicken-and-egg situation. I believe the developers are there in the community, merely that XDA (now regrettably the main place for SE development) is so disorganised that it makes it difficult to communicate.
It would be two minutes work to create a development sub-section in Neo, and actually less work for moderators to deal with the scattered Xperia Pro discussions as we have at present.
Frankly, I wish all Sony Ericsson users would get together, abandon XDA altogether, and return to websites like Esato, sense, TopSony as they did in the old days. At least then all devices would be appreciated and understood by those in charge.
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Weigh in here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1095923&page=11
and here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1533272
to see what we are dealing with.
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Man this **** is not gonna help us. What we need to do is flood any one of the sections with xperia pro things like mods, ROMs, questions general discussions etc.
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Xperia pro is the best smartphone in its class. There's nothing compared to xperia pro when it comes to a physical keyboard.
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Pro didn't get advertised, that's why no one has it and no devs support it and now it's way too late to change that.
No one/dev will get a 1GHz single core device these days
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Flo95 said:
Pro didn't get advertised, that's why no one has it and no devs support it and now it's way too late to change that.
No one/dev will get a 1GHz single core device these days
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Everyone doesn't care just about 100Ghz processor with thousands of cores. Many people care about the usability of the device. Typing anything on a hardware keyboard is far less easy than on a touchscreen
I own a X10i, pro, xperia s and htc tytn ii. I use pro most of the time due to its usability.
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king-iyokan said:
Man this **** is not gonna help us. What we need to do is flood any one of the sections with xperia pro things like mods, ROMs, questions general discussions etc.
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I agree that we should indeed do that, and am working on some mods too in my spare time...
(after all, it has already been accepted to allow Xperia Pro to be discussed, merely not exactly agreed properly WHERE.) All we are requesting is a little cleanup with a small single forum under Xperia Pro (or perhaps more pragmatically here under Arc given the volume of stuff already here).

Flo95 said:
Pro didn't get advertised, that's why no one has it and no devs support it and now it's way too late to change that.
No one/dev will get a 1GHz single core device these days
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Rather bold words there completely out of line with the 470+ votes and available ROMs!
Some of us don't require advertising to make informed decisions. Nor do we think that it is work spending €100 more for a device with less features (cough! Arc cough! Perhaps this thread would have been better posted over to the Neo section where there seem to be less of these perceptions)

Show us some loveeeeeeee!
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Will Neo V Roms works with Pro?....ATM all hardware are same a part from PRO'S keyboard...

@king-iyokan
account is disabled.. i also think that pro users should get there seperate forum..
and he should be the leader because he has a developer spirit..,:

paul5425 said:
I agree that we should indeed do that, and am working on some mods too in my spare time...
(after all, it has already been accepted to allow Xperia Pro to be discussed, merely not exactly agreed properly WHERE.) All we are requesting is a little cleanup with a small single forum under Xperia Pro (or perhaps more pragmatically here under Arc given the volume of stuff already here).
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ifu said:
Will Neo V Roms works with Pro?....ATM all hardware are same a part from PRO'S keyboard...
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An interesting question. I think Neo V has different partition layouts, but I would have thought Arc and Neo ROMs could be made to work (though have read they will brick your device), except with some of the keyboard configuration left out. I think we should be pushing for an initiative to port Neo and Arc ROMs to Pro, or for example develop some sort of patch which would automate the process.

Is there a list?

OK, so I've searched the forums, and so far have come up empty. Mods, if I missed a thread , I apologize.
What I'm looking for and would love to find, is a list of ROMs, sorted by device. Like if I wanted to see what ROMs are available for my Nexus 7, I would like to be able to visit a website, enter my device and be shown every ROM that is compatible with my device..
I believe developers would have an easier time of spreading the word about their products, if people didn't have to spend hours surfing the forums, searching for people who are running whichever ROM on whatever device. Just my 2 cents.
The fact that something like this doesn't exist is beyond me. Maybe I just can't find it..

It doesn't exist because it is logistically unfeasible and impractical. The closest you could hope to come to something like this is goo.im, and it is by no means all inclusive.
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You could certainly start a Wiki. It would be a service to some.
My own request would be for people who start topics, give them a title as specific as possible.
A topic as general as this one wastes an awful lot of folks time, opening it to see what it is about.

najaboy said:
It doesn't exist because it is logistically unfeasible and impractical. The closest you could hope to come to something like this is goo.im, and it is by no means all inclusive.
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How is logistically impossible? Its just data being pointed to by hyperlinks.. All it would take is for various developers to submit links to a particular site that would allow users to search for their device. Much like this site, as it allows you to select your device then attempts (horribly) to show you what is relevant to your device. Problem is, if you want to find out, for example, what's the hottest new stable ROM for your device, you have yo sort through all the crap unrelated posts to find it.
And as far as practicality is concerned..it would be EXTREMELY practical. The idea itself is to simplify to the process by which people access information. Pretty sure that's the DEFINITION of practical.

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How is logistically impossible? Its just data being pointed to by hyperlinks.. All it would take is for various developers to submit links to a particular site that would allow users to search for their device. Much like this site, as it allows you to select your device then attempts (horribly) to show you what is relevant to your device. Problem is, if you want to find out, for example, what's the hottest new stable ROM for your device, you have yo sort through all the crap unrelated posts to find it.
And as far as practicality is concerned..it would be EXTREMELY practical. The idea itself is to simplify to the process by which people access information. Pretty sure that's the DEFINITION of practical.
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In most forums there is a reference thread with a list of all the ROMs/kernels/mods/guides&tutorials. Its in the android development forum for the n7
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usncpg45 said:
How is logistically impossible? Its just data being pointed to by hyperlinks.. All it would take is for various developers to submit links to a particular site that would allow users to search for their device. Much like this site, as it allows you to select your device then attempts (horribly) to show you what is relevant to your device. Problem is, if you want to find out, for example, what's the hottest new stable ROM for your device, you have yo sort through all the crap unrelated posts to find it.
And as far as practicality is concerned..it would be EXTREMELY practical. The idea itself is to simplify to the process by which people access information. Pretty sure that's the DEFINITION of practical.
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What you propose would necessitate all developers submitting their Tom's and updates. As of six months ago, there were roughly 4,000 distinct versions of hardware running Android in 195 countries. Also take into account the multitude of individually compiled kangs, along with the fact that many roms see updates on a daily basis, and the necessary scope of such a project gets even deeper and more costly.
For the devs, it would represent nothing more than yet another repository for them to keep up with. Others don't want their roms mirrored by third parties, as they prefer to either directly track their downloads or have the traffic driven to their sites.
As it stands, goo represents the most comprehensive solution to your query given the real world limitations faced.
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Bad Idea.Confusion and Bricked Devices would Increase
i think having a list type site would be a injustice to the rom Developers. As they post vital information and updates as well as user feedback on the Developers. Rom threads posted here in Developer forums.. Also it allows feed back between developers and users on what they want ,what works and what does not...
Not to mention the ability for users to help with the development of there favorite rom by passing donations to the Developer..
The so called list is here alive and active. Its called xda developer forums.. Each device has its own forum each forum is broken down into sections. What more would be needed then our Developer forums . Then developer rom threads.
I would not download a rom bases on a list from a 3rd party site.. I can see that causing roms being mistaken from one to another..
Just my opinion.. what we have now is not broken.. No reason to fix it cm 10 has a download list of all roms... Paranoid andorid does as well all the big dev teams do this... Your just not looking deep enough ...
One more thing. If it were that simple without having to read about a rom. There would be a ton of bricked devices from people not knowing what they are really doing when flashing or the risk they are taking..
Good Luck on your List and getting developers on board..

erica_renee said:
The so called list is here alive and active. Its called xda developer forums.. Each device has its own forum each forum is broken down into sections. What more would be needed then our Developer forums than developer rom threads.
Good Luck on your List and getting developers on board..
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+1......My thoughts exactly
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