[Q] Games and Camera - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I can play more games if i have an USB OTG for Nexus 4?
I mean .. 8GB go fast, and I want more games!
I thought I put files on the usb and install "application" on the phone ..
Goes so?
Many say it is a pretty poor camera!
As Nexus 4 shooting bad .. it has front and rear glass and breaks easily .. I was thinking I do not buy and can get myself something else, or to get a Tablet (32GB Nexus 7).
Thank you!

Yes, it sounds as if you would be happier with another phone. The Nexus 4 does not support USB OTG.

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[Q] Details from Owners of Nexus 7

Hi guys,
I am coming from Sony tablet, I sold it coz it has too much issues and now I am looking for another android tablet. I have iPad but I hardly use it
I want to know abt these points about GOOGLE NEXUS 7 from the owners:
EDIT: I found some answers and updated the points below.
1. Any WiFi issue, screen locked (NO)
2. Landscape mode, stock launcher (NO)
3. Any Flickering screen issue (NO)
4. Apps getting disappered (NO)
5. Actual storage available in 16gb version (13+ gb)
6. HDMI Support? (NO)
7.MHL Adapter?
8. Can be used to make phone calls (as Samsung Tablet 7)? (NO)
9. Sound Quality? (POOR)
sent from seXperia S
dont know about the rest but #2, of course it can, its a tablet.
I can answer #6. sadly the N7 will not have HDMI output. no micro-hdmi and no mhl.
Somewhere I heard that battery is not replaceable and no primary camera, only a 2.1 front facing camera, so nexus 7 is not a good option if u are a tablet enthusiast..
pham818 said:
dont know about the rest but #2, of course it can, its a tablet.
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It doesn't unless you install an app to do it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737750&page=3
AC DC said:
Somewhere I heard that battery is not replaceable and no primary camera, only a 2.1 front facing camera, so nexus 7 is not a good option if u are a tablet enthusiast..
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Only 1.2
Jordanooo said:
Only 1.2
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Oh, my bad
I dont care about the Main camera coz m not going to use my tablet for photogtaphy (Xperia S is there with me)
HDMI and lack of sd card is a BIG miss !!!
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HDMI is not so much a big problem with me, neither is memory as i use my xperia play for big games like fifa as i hate on-screen controls.
This will be for angry birds and those types of games, mainly.
Now i just wish someone would make an app allowing me to map X-Play controls to the tablets screen for games.
Anybody know one?
Of course, i would like the option for a larger memory so am hoping otg works somehow
USB OTG doesn't work on stock Jelly Bean but I think Asus has suggested that the hardware is capable so once devs have had a play it will be possible.
Brac20 said:
USB OTG doesn't work on stock Jelly Bean but I think Asus has suggested that the hardware is capable so once devs have had a play it will be possible.
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When you tried connecting pendrive, wats the ERROR msg displayed?
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Well there would be no error because its not actually a feature. An error would suggest it should work, but it doesn't.
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Brac20 said:
USB OTG doesn't work on stock Jelly Bean but I think Asus has suggested that the hardware is capable so once devs have had a play it will be possible.
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OTG works on stock but you need to root & install StickMount.
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AC DC said:
Somewhere I heard that battery is not replaceable and no primary camera, only a 2.1 front facing camera, so nexus 7 is not a good option if u are a tablet enthusiast..
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Why would you buy any sort of tablet with the intention of taking photos? A phone would be better, but if you want to take good photos just buy a real camera.
nerfman100 said:
Why would you buy any sort of tablet with the intention of taking photos? A phone would be better, but if you want to take good photos just buy a real camera.
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Exactly. I can understand wanting an all in one device, but a tablet should never be considered something to be taking high-quality photos on the move. A cell phone or mirrorless DSLR is a much better option, in my opinion.
xperiax10.awesome said:
Hi guys,
I am coming from Sony tablet, I sold it coz it has too much issues and now I am looking for another android tablet. I have iPad but I hardly use it
I want to know abt these points about GOOGLE NEXUS 7 from the owners:
1. Any WiFi issue when screen locked. Shouldn't be, my GNexus has none.
2. Does home screen can be used in Landscape mode. Maybe on stock launcher. If not, install Apex or Nova, they look almost identical to stock but have cutomizing features.
3. Any Flickering screen issue. I expect no. Just because it seems like a poor way to launch a product.
4. Apps getting disappered. Again, unlikely. JB is rock solid from my experience.
5. Actual storage available in 16gb version. My 16GB GNex has 13.33GB available in stock JB, probably about that much.
6. HDMI Support? Likely through micro USB w/ an adapter. May be a mini HDMI slot though.
7.MHL Adapter? I don't know what that is.
8. Can be used to make phone calls (as Samsung Tablet 7)? With skype or some other app, but otherwise I expect no as it's a wifi and not cell network device.
sent from seXperia S
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Answers above in bold.
And concerning no rear camera, you'll look like an idiot taking pictures with that thing. Like a laptop, all you need on a tab camera wise is a FFC, they're too big and unwieldy to use as a camera.
Questions go in the Q&A section
RMXO said:
OTG works on stock but you need to root & install StickMount.
Please say it's so!! Has this been confirmed by users who have tried it? Can't ask anymore of a $200 device, and I've been smitten with it since day one, but USB storage recognition would be the cherry on top of this Nexus Sundae ;-) If not I guess I could always try streaming from my phone or my home network via es file explorer if all else fails.
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AC DC said:
Somewhere I heard that battery is not replaceable and no primary camera, only a 2.1 front facing camera, so nexus 7 is not a good option if u are a tablet enthusiast..
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According to the iFixit Teardown, the battery is quite easily replaceable.
OP updated.
Wanna know more about SOUND output,.my sony tablet was pathetic in audio output department !!
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[Q] Galaxy Tab2 vs Nexus 7

Hello XDA!
I want to buy a tablet and I'm a little undecided
Have to choose between Galaxy Tab2 7.0 and Nexus 7.
I choose Nexus 7 because it has a good processor, better screen (this will test soon) and will last a few years .. no lag quad core Tegra 3!
For me, a tablet is for:
games
watching movies
and sometimes a device that can read a book (and some browsing on the Internet)
Am I able to buy a USB OTG, now I wi-fi and surprise surprise .. can buy a 32 GB version!
Till now I have memory problems at all, and a USB OTG can do whatever I want! I could only make games and gaming tablet and stick to put some movies!
Samsung tab2 would buy it just because I heard it's good, I like the design, material .. but do not know the difference between the two screens (I did not see Nexus 7 in my city).
Have principal camera and you can increase the memory because is equipped with a slot for SD.
Until now, my financial possibilities and "little tool" (USB OTG) differences between the two would be:
Galaxy tab2 has the principal camera
And do not know what is quality material (which does not interest me so much) and has a better screen, I want to say this in terms of color (they are alive, even deleted?)
Thanks in advance, and excuse my English!
P.S. I want to know if there was an important aspect of the Nexus 7 for which I would want to take it! Mean if a tablet is bad or not so good compared to Galaxy tab2!
Thank you.
My Wife has the the Sam Gal Tab2 7.0 - nice BUT.......Asus have done a fantastic job with the Nexus 7. First thing is the screen - less resolution on the Tab2 - looks ok but the Nexus looks great - only down side is the Mem expansion- but really if you get a 16GB + OTG.
I have rooted both and they work well. I must say I am a geek (fussy) with these gadgets - and I love my Nexus 7 - sorry samsung.
Cheers
Bcat
bcatcool said:
My Wife has the the Sam Gal Tab2 7.0 - nice BUT.......Asus have done a fantastic job with the Nexus 7. First thing is the screen - less resolution on the Tab2 - looks ok but the Nexus looks great - only down side is the Mem expansion- but really if you get a 16GB + OTG.
I have rooted both and they work well. I must say I am a geek (fussy) with these gadgets - and I love my Nexus 7 - sorry samsung.
Cheers
Bcat
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It's true that I can increase memory and USB OTG cable (to put a stick in it), connect the keyboard, mouse, joystick and connect a 3G modem?
Thanks!
Razvan03Andrei said:
It's true that I can increase memory and USB OTG cable (to put a stick in it), connect the keyboard, mouse, joystick and connect a 3G modem?
Thanks!
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All true afaik, though I haven't tried the 3g thing(there's a thread here that says it's working).
I read that 32GB N7 is going to be out soon so storage is not much of a problem now.
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Games from USB OTG

Hello xda!
I want to buy from Canada an Nexus 4 16 GB. I think if the phone doesn't have a sd slot, i will have a problem with the memory :crying:
My music, films and other thing like this i will keep on dropbox or other app like this, i think. I heard if i have a usb otg and a stick, i can put my music, films and games on it! I know the music and film work great for that, but i can run games from usb otg? I think will be awesome to do this!
Please tell me if the usb otg work on Nexus 4 and if i can to run games from an usb!
http://www.amazon.ca/Micro-USB-OTG-...&qid=1365257026&sr=8-1&keywords=Micro+USB+OTG
This usb otg is compatible?
Thanks!
P.S. I don't know what to do! I want a new phone, because my phone is very, very old..but i don't have a tablet and Nexus 10 is perfect for me! And..nexus 10 with usb otg..
I belive Nexus 4 is best for me..My budget is maximum 350-400$.
I'm not from Canada or other country who have Google Play, but i have someone there and i want to buy me that phone for me! I want to know the price exactly. I know the Nexus 4 8GB is 300$ and Nexus 4 16GB is 350$, but exist other taxes or the transport is too much? How to buy the phone "from lower price" ?
And..the Nexus 10 32GB is awesome, but i don't have money for this!
Thank you! :victory:
P.P.S. I think I can buy the phone from America, but not so sure!
The Nexus 4 currently does not support otg out of the box. Due to it's hardware limitation it does not have enough power to power an otg cable. You will need to root the device and flash this custom and a y-otg cable. You will also need an external battery pack to power the otg feature as well.
Here is the link to the thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2181820
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[Q] Nexus 10 or TF700

Hey there,
I'm planning on getting a new 10 inch tab and im very interested in the google nexus 10. However im also considering the asus infinity tf700, i personally prefer the n10, but i've read of it's various issues. can anyone give me some tips?? much appreciated.
Is the file transfer from pc to the n10 slow??
thx
yhchow said:
Hey there,
I'm planning on getting a new 10 inch tab and im very interested in the google nexus 10. However im also considering the asus infinity tf700, i personally prefer the n10, but i've read of it's various issues. can anyone give me some tips?? much appreciated.
Is the file transfer from pc to the n10 slow??
thx
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Hi!
IMHO the Google Nexus 10 has only one issue - a missing SD card slot...
...besides that it is fast, the display is very good and WiFi, bluetooth, OTG-Support and everything else is working good.
For Data-Transfer I use OTG and an USB-Stick with 64GB.
The intresting things in the comparison is the keyboard dock (if you need it), the SD card slot and maybe the better camera of the TF700t.
If you can life with the 32GB and maybe a usb device via OTG as backup then I would go for the Google Nexus 10 (again) - if you need a SD card slot and a keyboard dock - get the TF700t.
yhchow said:
Hey there,
I'm planning on getting a new 10 inch tab and im very interested in the google nexus 10. However im also considering the asus infinity tf700, i personally prefer the n10, but i've read of it's various issues. can anyone give me some tips?? much appreciated.
Is the file transfer from pc to the n10 slow??
thx
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n10 hands down. Better in every way. Enough said.
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Medizinmann said:
Hi!
IMHO the Google Nexus 10 has only one issue - a missing SD card slot...
...besides that it is fast, the display is very good and WiFi, bluetooth, OTG-Support and everything else is working good.
For Data-Transfer I use OTG and an USB-Stick with 64GB.
The intresting things in the comparison is the keyboard dock (if you need it), the SD card slot and maybe the better camera of the TF700t.
If you can life with the 32GB and maybe a usb device via OTG as backup then I would go for the Google Nexus 10 (again) - if you need a SD card slot and a keyboard dock - get the TF700t.
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As far as the keyboard goes, I have a nice case with BT keyboard that I am perfectly happy with.
The rear camera on the n10 is actually more than adequate for a tablet. If picture taking is important to you, use a phone or get a camera, you will look ridiculous walking around taking pics on a tablet!
I was admittedly worried about storage at first, but once you realize you don't REALLY need 50 games installed you find you have plenty of room. LOL
brees75 said:
n10 hands down. Better in every way. Enough said.
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As far as the keyboard goes, I have a nice case with BT keyboard that I am perfectly happy with.
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Most of the time I don't need a keyboard and I also use a BT keyboard if needed - but one must admit that the solution for the Asus is more sophisticated - that's why I wrote "if he needs it".
brees75 said:
The rear camera on the n10 is actually more than adequate for a tablet. If picture taking is important to you, use a phone or get a camera, you will look ridiculous walking around taking pics on a tablet!
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Agreed - I use it to take photos instead of notes...
BTW: I have seen people running around and taking photos using their tablet - severeal times - an yes it looks ridiculous...
brees75 said:
I was admittedly worried about storage at first, but once you realize you don't REALLY need 50 games installed you find you have plenty of room. LOL
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I miss the SD Card slot alot - I am always on the edge with my use of storage space and I have installed only 2-3 Games.
BWT: Good games use between 1-4GB - so space might be used up fast.
This is IMHO the only big downside for all new Google Nexus products and the reason why I didn't buy a google Nexus 4, because I already almost filled the 70GB usable space on my LG P990 and don't know how to downgrade to a phone using only 16GB...
I can live with the 32GB on my Nexus 10 only because I can use a 64 GB Sticks over OTG-cable.
If Google brings out either a Nexus phone with 128GB or even better one with 32 or 64 GB and a SD card slot - I would buy that right away.
Medizinmann said:
Hi!
IMHO the Google Nexus 10 has only one issue - a missing SD card slot...
...besides that it is fast, the display is very good and WiFi, bluetooth, OTG-Support and everything else is working good.
For Data-Transfer I use OTG and an USB-Stick with 64GB.
The intresting things in the comparison is the keyboard dock (if you need it), the SD card slot and maybe the better camera of the TF700t.
If you can life with the 32GB and maybe a usb device via OTG as backup then I would go for the Google Nexus 10 (again) - if you need a SD card slot and a keyboard dock - get the TF700t.
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Thx for the replies. Then may i ask what the nexus media importer app for if nexus10 supports otg??
You need the media importer if your ROM does not support OTG storage natively.
BTW, take into account the battery lives of the two devices, I heard there were big differences.
+1 for nexus 10 the only thing transformer had that I liked was the dock and keyboard. Ill take guaranteed first updates and my own Bluetooth keyboard (if I need one) over that
yhchow said:
Thx for the replies. Then may i ask what the nexus media importer app for if nexus10 supports otg??
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Hi!
You need Nexus media importer for stock rom when you not rooting your device (you could use stick mount then) - many custom roms support OTG natively.
But NMI works great if don't want to root your device and don't want to install a custom rom.
And one more thing, has the reboot bug been fixed?? :laugh:
yhchow said:
Hey there,
I'm planning on getting a new 10 inch tab and im very interested in the google nexus 10. However im also considering the asus infinity tf700, i personally prefer the n10, but i've read of it's various issues. can anyone give me some tips?? much appreciated.
Is the file transfer from pc to the n10 slow??
thx
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to/from PC file transfer is a little buggy but fast when there aren't problems
The main problem I think is with MTP rather than with the nexus, but I could be wrong there
Basically file transfers lock up if you try access other files/directories on the nexus via the PC while actively transferring files.
Once the transfer locks, I have to unplug the n10 and plug it back in and restart the copy.
And win7 at least doesn't provide a "no to all" option which is really annoying when most of the files were copied over

opinions about the Tegra Note 7

I am looking to get some cheap tablet for my daughter, something that I can use as well (not a cheap Chinese tablet). I had nexus 7 2012 which is now broken so looking for an alternative.
I am interested to get one but I see that it is not famous even the forum is almost empty. Can someone tell me why. I see the specs and price are excellent.
I want to hear opinions from owners of this tab before getting it. what do/don't you like about this tab? before either getting this or nexus 7 2013.
what I like about this over the nexus is the speakers and the styles, they will be useful for me and my daughter (to listen to songs and draw things). but the nexus has more RAM and better support. I don't care about the camera (I have Z1 SGS4 and pro camera) or the resolution as long as the quality of the screen is good, my old nexus 7 screen is good enough.
what do you guys think? get it, get the nexus or do you have any other suggestion?
My problem with 1G RAM is not with opening apps or multitasking. But I am worried that the support for this tab will be dropped very soon because it won't have enough RAM. Most Manufacturers dropped support for device with 0.5 RAM and some even dropped support for devices with 1G RAM. I know that 4.4 tried to solve this issue but I still think that 1 G RAM isn't much and Tegra won't support this tab for long and will drop support after 4.4. What make this problem even more serious is that there is no much support for this tab from the community itself and not many ROMs available that could support this tab if nevidia gone this way. Any opinions?
Well, i think you gotta ask yourself a few questions if you consider buying the TN7.
1. How important is the screen? It's just like all the tests say, the screen ist not SO good. It's ok, i think the resolution is enough, and i am happy with the colors - its not like everything is blue or something. But it is just "ok" and could be better. (for example in the N7'13) (this might be interesting if your daughter wants to read alot)
2. Do you need the stylus? This was the #1 reason for me to get a TN7, and i love it. Good for drawing and writing, but also just for everyday use. I never touch the screen with my finger =)
3. Does your daughter need skype or something? The front camera is VERY bad, and not usable for anything. (640x480 i think, just VGA)
4. The speakers are superawesome. Loud, clear and in generel very good, it's fun to watch videos and movies.
So, in my opinion you should go for the TN7. Guess custom rom support and stuff is not important for your daughter, and for entertainment, drawing and stuff it's very good.
ps: the resolution is more then enough to read, the kindle 4 for exampe just got 800xsomething. but 1080 is better of course
ahomad said:
I am looking to get some cheap tablet for my daughter, something that I can use as well (not a cheap Chinese tablet). I had nexus 7 2012 which is now broken so looking for an alternative.
I am interested to get one but I see that it is not famous even the forum is almost empty. Can someone tell me why. I see the specs and price are excellent.
I want to hear opinions from owners of this tab before getting it. what do/don't you like about this tab? before either getting this or nexus 7 2013.
what I like about this over the nexus is the speakers and the styles, they will be useful for me and my daughter (to listen to songs and draw things). but the nexus has more RAM and better support. I don't care about the camera (I have Z1 SGS4 and pro camera) or the resolution as long as the quality of the screen is good, my old nexus 7 screen is good enough.
what do you guys think? get it, get the nexus or do you have any other suggestion?
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I don't own one (yet) but if you're looking for a reason to get this over the Nexus 7... aside from the far superior processor (perhaps you won't notice if you don't play games) the HDMI Out is a good one. The Tegra Note's screen lower screen resolution won't make a difference when you're viewing on a HD TV.
ahomad said:
My problem with 1G RAM is not with opening apps or multitasking. But I am worried that the support for this tab will be dropped very soon because it won't have enough RAM. Most Manufacturers dropped support for device with 0.5 RAM and some even dropped support for devices with 1G RAM. I know that 4.4 tried to solve this issue but I still think that 1 G RAM isn't much and Tegra won't support this tab for long and will drop support after 4.4. What make this problem even more serious is that there is no much support for this tab from the community itself and not many ROMs available that could support this tab if nevidia gone this way. Any opinions?
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The underlying software (I'm told by youtube videos) is about identical to the one the Shield uses (the Nvidia Marketplace looks different). These same videos sounded confident that the updates would come along with the Shield updates. Even though it's only 1 GB, the processor is top of the line (for any price range). So I really hope Nvidia doesn't burn us.
I have the tegra note 7 (x3), nexus 7 2013, Nexus7 2012 (×2 but sold one and may sell the other one).
Been using the tegra note 7 mostly since I got it a while back in Dec 13. Reasonably happy with purchase enough to sell one of my nexus 7 2012 and may sell the other too.
Screen is about the same as nexus 7 2012. Speakers are great much better than nexus 7 2012 and Nexus7 2013 or my note 3 or s4. Back camera is Ok, hdr Mode is cool. Front camera is **** and Can't believe Nvidia even dreamt of putting such a lousy one. Haven't skyped with it but expect it to be lousy after brief testing the camera. Low light performance is obviously poor from both front and back cameras.
Pen is good and accurate and faster response than my note 1 phone or note 3. But pen apps are not as much as for note series.
Have two slide covers. Might be getting the extra Pens set from Newegg. Got the slide covers from pc world / currys UK like the tablet (£89.99 then using a code) . Plus usual other android accessories.
Hdmi micro output is useful. But all ports including hdmi usb have too much jiggling about of cable even after it is in so if device is not lying still then will lose connection. Pet adapter cable is SHORT.
Miracast Wireless screen mirroring works great. You can see my YouTube video from a month ago if interested in my tag line below. Will try to upload some more tegra note 7 videos this Weekend if I get the time.
1gb ram has been Ok in my experience surprisingly. Should get better with Kitkat.
Some gameloft games Eg newer haves work only with controllers and not even due to gameloft coding issue and older gameloft games work fine. Game controllers work fine.
Screen not an issue For browsing, movies, games, satnav.
Satnav works great with several mapping applications. Satellite lock faster with Google navigation than others irritatingly but once locked no issues later. Works great for hours of driving.
Will update more in my video review after using all these tablets for a while now (if I get the time this weekend). Thought of doing a quick review earlier but decided to use it for a while before making one. Been using mine for more than a month now.
bubblesmoney said:
I have the tegra note 7 (x3), nexus 7 2013, Nexus7 2012 (×2 but sold one and may sell the other one).
Been using the tegra note 7 mostly since I got it a while back in Dec 13. Reasonably happy with purchase enough to sell one of my nexus 7 2012 and may sell the other too.
Screen is about the same as nexus 7 2012. Speakers are great much better than nexus 7 2012 and Nexus7 2013 or my note 3 or s4. Back camera is Ok, hdr Mode is cool. Front camera is **** and Can't believe Nvidia even dreamt of putting such a lousy one. Haven't skyped with it but expect it to be lousy after brief testing the camera. Low light performance is obviously poor from both front and back cameras.
Pen is good and accurate and faster response than my note 1 phone or note 3. But pen apps are not as much as for note series.
Have two slide covers. Might be getting the extra Pens set from Newegg. Got the slide covers from pc world / currys UK like the tablet (£89.99 then using a code) . Plus usual other android accessories.
Hdmi micro output is useful. But all ports including hdmi usb have too much jiggling about of cable even after it is in so if device is not lying still then will lose connection. Pet adapter cable is SHORT.
Miracast Wireless screen mirroring works great. You can see my YouTube video from a month ago if interested in my tag line below. Will try to upload some more tegra note 7 videos this Weekend if I get the time.
1gb ram has been Ok in my experience surprisingly. Should get better with Kitkat.
Some gameloft games Eg newer haves work only with controllers and not even due to gameloft coding issue and older gameloft games work fine. Game controllers work fine.
Screen not an issue For browsing, movies, games, satnav.
Satnav works great with several mapping applications. Satellite lock faster with Google navigation than others irritatingly but once locked no issues later. Works great for hours of driving.
Will update more in my video review after using all these tablets for a while now (if I get the time this weekend). Thought of doing a quick review earlier but decided to use it for a while before making one. Been using mine for more than a month now.
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Thanks for the detailed answer.
I just have one question since you have both the note 7 and nexus 7 (2012). Can you tell me whats better in the note 7 and whats better in the nexus 2012 as I had nexus 7 2012 and was a great device, I just want quick comparison in few lines if you don't mind.
Thanks in advance.
Better in the N7'12:
#1 colors might be bit better
#2 community, rom support
#3 updates
#4 accessoire availability
better in tn7:
#1 performance is way better
#2 stylus ofc =)
#3 usbotg works with for example usbsticks or 360 controller (both tested), not sure about the n7 there
for me its defenitly the tn7. stylus is just awesome
So I have the tegra note 7 and I've owned other devices like both of the n7s, 10 inch tablets like transformers and galaxy note tabs.
This tablet is THE FASTEST tablet I have ever used.
Tegra Note 7 Pros
-MicroSD card slot
-Front Facing Speakers
-Stock android with a few OEM applications that are actually useful
-Pen Input
-One of the fastest SoCs out there, probably the most featured.
-instant HDR photos
-USB Digital to Analog Converters work out of the box, USB audio sounds good too.
-dedicated HDMI/miracast support
-The best value around at $199
Cons
-Front facing camera is very low resolution, like 640x480. I don't video chat much and even when I do I don't really care about these things, I'd actually prefer not to be in ULTRA HD while I've been lounging around the house unshaven. But still, 640x480 is quite low for a newer device, even if it is $199.
-Short USB cable. I really hate when OEMs get stingy over an extra 2-3 feet of cable.
-IPS displays illuminate blacks and sometimes have bad 'backlight bleeding' on the sides. I would have paid an extra hundred dollars for a display with better color balance than what IPS offers. The screen gets bright, and has good viewing angles/color balance for an IPS display, but at the end of the day it's still IPS. It fits the price of the tablet.
What can be seen as cons:
1280x800 resolution
I do not feel 220ppi is bad in any way shape or form. I can not see pixels even when I move it about 5 inches away from my face. The resolution works great on 7 inch tablets and reduces the strain on the GPU. This translates into higher FPS and a lighter GPU load, leaving a lot of computational power for the tablet to tap into when needed.
1 GB RAM
While I would prefer 2GB, I have grown used to 1GB. Here's a big misconception people make "More RAM is better". More RAM means more power draw, having high amounts of RAM can drop battery life. The way android handles RAM is to kill old processes when more memory is needed, this has worked for years with lower amounts of RAM because it means your most recent processes will always run at a higher priority.
The drawback to this, is that with resource-intensive applications open like games, you can lose old processes from days ago from memory. But I would argue that this is a good memory management scheme because it gets rid of apps you leave open for ages and forget to close, and gives more memory to your game so it doesn't lag. Now with more memory that old application would be around longer, sitting in memory, eating up energy until you close it, run out of memory, or open it again.
At the same time, some newer devices NEED more RAM. This is due to having a high resolution, on a 720p screen your UI elements may be 64x64, well on higher resolutions it goes up to 72x72, 96x96, 128x128, etc. This means that higher resolutions have higher memory requirements because their resources are larger. With a tablet like the tegra note 7, 1GB is okay for 720p resources. With a tablet like the 2013 nexus 7, it is not.
Other Thoughts
I am left handed and really love that Nvidia didn't forget about us lefties. The draw app included with the tablet has leftie optimization. I also love the placement of all the connectors, they are all on one side of the tablet. The settings app has a CPU menu where you can change from quad core mode to dual core mode and I liked that. I would have preferred to have the front facing camera in a closer location to the rear camera, so it doesn't get covered in landscape as easily.
But really, for $200?! It beats everything on the market right now, including the 2013 nexus 7. For any tablet that has a feature that edges out on the Tegra Note 7, the tegra note 7 has about 4-5 tricks the other tablets don't. I cannot complain at all for what I paid, this device will be fast for years to come once the AOSP builds come.
ahomad said:
Thanks for the detailed answer.
I just have one question since you have both the note 7 and nexus 7 (2012). Can you tell me whats better in the note 7 and whats better in the nexus 2012 as I had nexus 7 2012 and was a great device, I just want quick comparison in few lines if you don't mind.
Thanks in advance.
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Looks like others have covered many points I agree with already.
Basically almost everything is better on the tegra note 7 than nexus 7 2012. Screen is debatable though.
Tegra note 7 is better ..... cpu, gpu, speakers, sd slot, pen, miracast, hdmi, back camera, Slide cover accessory.
Nexus 7 2012 is better. ... Faster software updates better grip while holding in one hand, front facing camera is better quality, battery life better than tegra note 7, can get 32gb internal storage unlike the tegra note 7, more accessories available.
Some other things.... Nexus 7 2012 although does not have miracast but can cast some apps to miracast receivers. Nexus7 2012 too has usb OTG support when used with nexus media importer app. The loud speakers on the tegra note 7 make it better as a sat nav in my experience.
Some things I don't like. ....
On the tegra note 7. .... random screen switches on. Ports have too much looseness Eg need to keep usb cable still add If you move Tablet then easily gets dislodged. Sane problem with hdmi. Both ports too close together and some cables might not fit together but other cables will fit.
On the Nexus7 2012. .. starts lagging like hell when full unlike the tegra note 7.
This is as short as I can get it.
If your want shorter then. ... Just buy the tegra note 7
Can't wait to ditch samsung note 3 to get a full specked tegra note phone if and when launched with premium features.
Great buy for £89.99 at Curry's using code but code expired now.
Everyone in here needs to realize something, there has to be a profit margin in ANY device sold. How much do you think it cost for just the bare Tegra 4 chip? I would guess $75-$100 OEM for just the chip itself and then you have roughly $99 more to build EVERYTHING else. I honestly only have 2 complaints with the TN7, 1GB of RAM and the Screen. For the cost though, I can't really say they are complaints, more just something I could point at as a short fall if asked to name some. Everything else is awesome, from sound to Tegra 4 speed.
Thanks everyone for your nice and informative answers, (there is a community for the TN7
I ordered mine and should be receiving it tomorrow. I noticed that the main issue is with both cameras which isn't important for me. What worries me is that most people aren't very happy with the screen but I guess I will have to wait and see myself. I am happy to see that the speaker and the styles are of very good quality.
I got mine from PCWORLD for 129.99£ I wish I knew about the 89.99 offer, I would have got two , anyway it is still a bargain.
I got my first Tegra Note from Aliexpress as soon as they were released, a Chinese Homecare model, the same company that manufactures all the version I hear. The problem was the tablet I got seemed to be poorly made. On day 0 I couldn't get the usb cable in. I realised most of my sockets were unaligned to the plastic case. Then there was missing Google Apps and the GPS didn't work so I needed to root and go into repair mode. After bending the USB connector up a little I could power and start work at making this tablet usable. Well within a few days I had a software bricked unit and the repair mechanisms like recovery and bootloader partitions were so limited on this model that I couldn't remedy. The moral to the story is buy local if you can.
I now have an EVGA Tegra Note and it's far better experience. The manufacturing is better and everything works bar the GPS which may come down to the satellite table being narrow.
Buyers should consider that Nvidia's Tegra Tablets are a new series using one of the fastest CPU cores around so if you want to be apart of this new cruise get onboard. It's only going to get better.
gps is non functional on this tablet, takes over half an hour to aquire a lock and looses it in 30 seconds.
slybunda said:
gps is non functional on this tablet, takes over half an hour to aquire a lock and looses it in 30 seconds.
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Gps works fine on mine but slightly slower with new updates. Lock was faster before. Lock is faster with Google Navigation than other apps. Mine work fine in the UK for online and off line navigation using various sat nav apps for hours of driving to unfamiliar cities. Once locked have never lost a signal since I bought in December. I have compared it with Samsung Galaxy Note 3 and nexus 7 2013 and For long journeys now mainly use tegra note 7 due to Good speakers. For short journeys I use my note 3.
Lock time is Ok with updates but was faster before. Only on 3 occasions lock took a while but rebooting device sorted it out.
Battery life is better with nexus 7 2013 and 2012 during navigation though than the tegra note 7.
Ok, I bought the Tegra and have had time to play around with it.
The USB cable it comes with fits loosely into the port. Other cables I've tried fit much better however.
The casing makes noise when I'm holding it. If my thumb is on one of the front facing speakers, iI can feel it compress slightly and its accompanied by a clicking sound. As I walk my fingers around the edge of the tablet and press down gently, I hear a slight clicking. I worry that the screen is going to come out of the plastic shell. And for this reason, I will not root this device until the warranty has expired. I should probably review the warranty sooner rather than later because I'm not sure of the details.
Overall I'm very happy with the purchase and performance of tthis tablet but I will update this post if needed.
Freeze!
I recently bought this tablet but was disappointed to find out that it froze quite often and had to be rebooted after every 15-20 minutes. The problem continues to persist even after upgrading to Android 4.3. Please help!
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I recently bought this tablet but was disappointed to find out that it froze quite often and had to be rebooted after every 15-20 minutes. The problem continues to persist even after upgrading to Android 4.3. Please help!
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Freezing is an issue if apps are moved to sd card improperly. This causes freezing and reboot loops and low battery in my samsung devices. Have you moved apps to sd card. If so then remove sd card and see if problems resolved. If it is Ok without sd card then start deleting the apps one by one when in your tablet. If it crashes too often the insert the card into your laptop and delete the hidden Android folder which should sort the problem if it was due to improper moving of app to sd card
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Freezing is an issue if apps are moved to sd card improperly. This causes freezing and reboot loops and low battery in my samsung devices. Have you moved apps to sd card. If so then remove sd card and see if problems resolved. If it is Ok without sd card then start deleting the apps one by one when in your tablet. If it crashes too often the insert the card into your laptop and delete the hidden Android folder which should sort the problem if it was due to improper moving of app to sd card
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Thanks for the speedy reply. But I haven't even yet installed an sd card.. All I have done is install apps from playstore to the tablet's inbuilt memory.
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Thanks for the speedy reply. But I haven't even yet installed an sd card.. All I have done is install apps from playstore to the tablet's inbuilt memory.
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Have you tried a factory reset. Did it sort the problem out. After factory reset install apps one by one and wait 15 to 20 mins to see if any of the apps wad causing the issue. Can't think of anything else to suggest. If problem continues then I would get an exchange or refund if I were you.
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Have you tried a factory reset. Did it sort the problem out. After factory reset install apps one by one and wait 15 to 20 mins to see if any of the apps wad causing the issue. Can't think of anything else to suggest. If problem continues then I would get an exchange or refund if I were you.
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By any chance, could there be some problem with the hardware which is causing such freezes?
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By any chance, could there be some problem with the hardware which is causing such freezes?
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I have tried resetting the tablet too by the way.
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