[Q] Nexus 10 or TF700 - Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey there,
I'm planning on getting a new 10 inch tab and im very interested in the google nexus 10. However im also considering the asus infinity tf700, i personally prefer the n10, but i've read of it's various issues. can anyone give me some tips?? much appreciated.
Is the file transfer from pc to the n10 slow??
thx

yhchow said:
Hey there,
I'm planning on getting a new 10 inch tab and im very interested in the google nexus 10. However im also considering the asus infinity tf700, i personally prefer the n10, but i've read of it's various issues. can anyone give me some tips?? much appreciated.
Is the file transfer from pc to the n10 slow??
thx
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Hi!
IMHO the Google Nexus 10 has only one issue - a missing SD card slot...
...besides that it is fast, the display is very good and WiFi, bluetooth, OTG-Support and everything else is working good.
For Data-Transfer I use OTG and an USB-Stick with 64GB.
The intresting things in the comparison is the keyboard dock (if you need it), the SD card slot and maybe the better camera of the TF700t.
If you can life with the 32GB and maybe a usb device via OTG as backup then I would go for the Google Nexus 10 (again) - if you need a SD card slot and a keyboard dock - get the TF700t.

yhchow said:
Hey there,
I'm planning on getting a new 10 inch tab and im very interested in the google nexus 10. However im also considering the asus infinity tf700, i personally prefer the n10, but i've read of it's various issues. can anyone give me some tips?? much appreciated.
Is the file transfer from pc to the n10 slow??
thx
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n10 hands down. Better in every way. Enough said.
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Medizinmann said:
Hi!
IMHO the Google Nexus 10 has only one issue - a missing SD card slot...
...besides that it is fast, the display is very good and WiFi, bluetooth, OTG-Support and everything else is working good.
For Data-Transfer I use OTG and an USB-Stick with 64GB.
The intresting things in the comparison is the keyboard dock (if you need it), the SD card slot and maybe the better camera of the TF700t.
If you can life with the 32GB and maybe a usb device via OTG as backup then I would go for the Google Nexus 10 (again) - if you need a SD card slot and a keyboard dock - get the TF700t.
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As far as the keyboard goes, I have a nice case with BT keyboard that I am perfectly happy with.
The rear camera on the n10 is actually more than adequate for a tablet. If picture taking is important to you, use a phone or get a camera, you will look ridiculous walking around taking pics on a tablet!
I was admittedly worried about storage at first, but once you realize you don't REALLY need 50 games installed you find you have plenty of room. LOL

brees75 said:
n10 hands down. Better in every way. Enough said.
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As far as the keyboard goes, I have a nice case with BT keyboard that I am perfectly happy with.
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Most of the time I don't need a keyboard and I also use a BT keyboard if needed - but one must admit that the solution for the Asus is more sophisticated - that's why I wrote "if he needs it".
brees75 said:
The rear camera on the n10 is actually more than adequate for a tablet. If picture taking is important to you, use a phone or get a camera, you will look ridiculous walking around taking pics on a tablet!
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Agreed - I use it to take photos instead of notes...
BTW: I have seen people running around and taking photos using their tablet - severeal times - an yes it looks ridiculous...
brees75 said:
I was admittedly worried about storage at first, but once you realize you don't REALLY need 50 games installed you find you have plenty of room. LOL
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I miss the SD Card slot alot - I am always on the edge with my use of storage space and I have installed only 2-3 Games.
BWT: Good games use between 1-4GB - so space might be used up fast.
This is IMHO the only big downside for all new Google Nexus products and the reason why I didn't buy a google Nexus 4, because I already almost filled the 70GB usable space on my LG P990 and don't know how to downgrade to a phone using only 16GB...
I can live with the 32GB on my Nexus 10 only because I can use a 64 GB Sticks over OTG-cable.
If Google brings out either a Nexus phone with 128GB or even better one with 32 or 64 GB and a SD card slot - I would buy that right away.

Medizinmann said:
Hi!
IMHO the Google Nexus 10 has only one issue - a missing SD card slot...
...besides that it is fast, the display is very good and WiFi, bluetooth, OTG-Support and everything else is working good.
For Data-Transfer I use OTG and an USB-Stick with 64GB.
The intresting things in the comparison is the keyboard dock (if you need it), the SD card slot and maybe the better camera of the TF700t.
If you can life with the 32GB and maybe a usb device via OTG as backup then I would go for the Google Nexus 10 (again) - if you need a SD card slot and a keyboard dock - get the TF700t.
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Thx for the replies. Then may i ask what the nexus media importer app for if nexus10 supports otg??

You need the media importer if your ROM does not support OTG storage natively.
BTW, take into account the battery lives of the two devices, I heard there were big differences.

+1 for nexus 10 the only thing transformer had that I liked was the dock and keyboard. Ill take guaranteed first updates and my own Bluetooth keyboard (if I need one) over that

yhchow said:
Thx for the replies. Then may i ask what the nexus media importer app for if nexus10 supports otg??
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Hi!
You need Nexus media importer for stock rom when you not rooting your device (you could use stick mount then) - many custom roms support OTG natively.
But NMI works great if don't want to root your device and don't want to install a custom rom.

And one more thing, has the reboot bug been fixed?? :laugh:

yhchow said:
Hey there,
I'm planning on getting a new 10 inch tab and im very interested in the google nexus 10. However im also considering the asus infinity tf700, i personally prefer the n10, but i've read of it's various issues. can anyone give me some tips?? much appreciated.
Is the file transfer from pc to the n10 slow??
thx
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to/from PC file transfer is a little buggy but fast when there aren't problems
The main problem I think is with MTP rather than with the nexus, but I could be wrong there
Basically file transfers lock up if you try access other files/directories on the nexus via the PC while actively transferring files.
Once the transfer locks, I have to unplug the n10 and plug it back in and restart the copy.
And win7 at least doesn't provide a "no to all" option which is really annoying when most of the files were copied over

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[Q] External Storage

Hello,
I'm thinking about getting the Nexus 10, currently have an iPad 2 but the screen of googles tablet is just too tempting.
One of the things I want to use it for is viewing media, I'll be getting the 16gb version and I'm a little bit worried the storage will get filled up pretty quickly. I have about 75gb worth of dropbox storage but was wondering if there's anything I could use if there's no wifi?
I'm thinking of just a small flash drive to plug into the microUSB port with loads of films on it, basically like a usb drive but compatible with the nexus 10, is there anything out there that'll do that?
Cheers.
There are ways to make that happen but you will need to root your device. This can be done with the use of apps, or with a custom rom but definitely possible. gaming...I don't think you can yet. mainly because its early and 4.2 is still pretty new.
I have no problem rooting the device, was probably going to anyway. I just wanted to know what the best/smallest external storage options were?
Maybe this thread would be better in the Accessories thread.
so many threads on this already, have possibilities of micro sd, sd, usb thumbdrive, some portable hdd enclosures and wireless hdds.
Dont need to be rooted, just use nexus media importer
64GB class 10 microSDXC should do the trick, they come with super small USB converters. Too bad for the lack of microUSB microSD reader, how much money one could make off it!
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64GB class 10 microSDXC should do the trick, they come with super small USB converters. Too bad for the lack of microUSB microSD reader, how much money one could make off it!
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Making one :laugh:
Shame the reader only support sdhc so max 32gb cards for me, but can get a few!

Thinking of investing in one of these..

I'm in the market for a new 10 inch tablet. Its either between this or a Nexus 10. I'm a little weary on getting the TF300 for some of the issues I've read about. Just would like to hear if anyone has any problems with it or not, and if so, are they bearable or fixable?
Might also want to add that I'm generally very lenient when it comes to bugs..but, having a N7, I've kind of spoiled myself lol
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Ive had mine since June 2012 and I've read about people with many issues but none of that for me. I unlocked it and I am running cm10.1 and I just love it.
malamalaful said:
Ive had mine since June 2012 and I've read about people with many issues but none of that for me. I unlocked it and I am running cm10.1 and I just love it.
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I'm a little obsessed with buying new gadgets after around six months, so I'd really like this to last a while. Obviously it can hold against the test of time pretty well if its lasted almost a year for you lol
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On the stock rom the tf300t is almost ubearable. I hardly ever used the tablet.
I recently bit the bullet unlocked installed twrp recovery and cleanrom. It runs amazingly fast and smooth now. I was shocked when I first used cleanrom, I wasn't expecting such a vast improvement. Now I use it more than my pc.
I have the keyboard dock and would recommend it to everyone even if it's just for the additional battery life. The keyboard is easy to use and works well with a wireless mouse.
White tf300t and dock, 32gb tablet, 64 gb micro sd and 1tb white portable HD & white USB card reader / usb hub.
Only issue I have had with cleanrom is my EA Games Real Racing 2 and NFSMW won't install from the market, other than that everything else is perfect.
Word of warning if you unlock and install twrp (or cmw ... twrp is recommended) NEVER do a full wipe from the Asus recovery or you'll likely end up with a brick. To avoid this I always do a reboot into recovery rather than entering recovery when the tablet is booting (Just in case I accidentally stuff up).
Keyboard dock is great for typing, not as good as a dedicated desktop keyboard but plenty good for lecture notes etc. I tend to use a wireless mouse rather than the trackpad.
The stock Asus software is actually quite useful. I keep applocker mynet and a few others when I install a custom rom...
I have a cheap $7 10 inch tablet sleeve I bought from Kmart a cheap set of screen protectors.. I am careful with the tablet but not obsesively so. No issues with it hardware wise (I keep mine overclocked to 1.6 all day everyday).
o0o.paw said:
On the stock rom the tf300t is almost ubearable. I hardly ever used the tablet.
I recently bit the bullet unlocked installed twrp recovery and cleanrom. It runs amazingly fast and smooth now. I was shocked when I first used cleanrom, I wasn't expecting such a vast improvement. Now I use it more than my pc.
I have the keyboard dock and would recommend it to everyone even if it's just for the additional battery life. The keyboard is easy to use and works well with a wireless mouse.
White tf300t and dock, 32gb tablet, 64 gb micro sd and 1tb white portable HD & white USB card reader / usb hub.
Only issue I have had with cleanrom is my EA Games Real Racing 2 and NFSMW won't install from the market, other than that everything else is perfect.
Word of warning if you unlock and install twrp (or cmw ... twrp is recommended) NEVER do a full wipe from the Asus recovery or you'll likely end up with a brick. To avoid this I always do a reboot into recovery rather than entering recovery when the tablet is booting (Just in case I accidentally stuff up).
Keyboard dock is great for typing, not as good as a dedicated desktop keyboard but plenty good for lecture notes etc. I tend to use a wireless mouse rather than the trackpad.
The stock Asus software is actually quite useful. I keep applocker mynet and a few others when I install a custom rom...
I have a cheap $7 10 inch tablet sleeve I bought from Kmart a cheap set of screen protectors.. I am careful with the tablet but not obsesively so. No issues with it hardware wise (I keep mine overclocked to 1.6 all day everyday).
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If we're being honest, it would be unlocked and ROM'd by the end of the night were I to get it lol. So it handles external hard drives well?
I wasn't even aware the keyboard dock had a track pad on it. How well is the sound on it while docked/in landscape?
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As far as handling external hard drives, I have had no problems transferring backups of my DVDs through the USB dongle from a 2TB NTFS HD to the tablet.
I bought a 1TB laptop drive from my local PC shop and a cheap HD enclosure from eBay .. I simply searched for a white one to match my Tablet. Yeh it handles the hard drives really well.
I have a 8 TB hard drive enclosure that has 4 x 2 TB drives ... it uses USB through 1 USB port and allows the drives to show as 1x 8 gb drive or 4 x 2 gb drives... works great on windows 7 I have it set up as 4 seperate drives. It only showed as 1 x 2TB drive on the tablet (well it was worth a shot)...only picked up the first drive in the enclosure.
I use FX Explorer with the additional add ons (I coughed up the $ for these as the app is that good) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.fx&hl=en .. I access my drives on the PC via wifi using this app (looks great on the tablet).
Sound from the speakers sound great... movies can be a bit soft, depends on how you encode them.
My son is using the tablet each day for taking notes for his programming course. He touch types and thinks the keyboard is great. The additional battery life is an added bonus
This is the first Android device that I have NOT rooted.
With the ability to DISABLE apps a standard feature in Jelly Bean, I just didn't feel like messing aroun d with it since the tab runs REALLY WELL IMO with the Stock Rom on it.
I love this thing. It's plenty fast enough, runs everything I throw at it.
Also agree the Keyboard is nice even thought I RARELY ever use mine. I keep thinking about selling it while I could still get a few bucks for it, but... I just can't quite part with it.
I have a 16GB Pad, with a 16GB card in it. In the dock I have a 32GB card. I take my SD Card from my camera and put it in the dock, and bam, there are my pics.
Not to mention when the tab gets low on battery, I will just put it on the dock for 20 minutes. It sucks the juice out of the dock and is charged again. Very nice feature.
7eregrine said:
This is the first Android device that I have NOT rooted.
With the ability to DISABLE apps a standard feature in Jelly Bean, I just didn't feel like messing aroun d with it since the tab runs REALLY WELL IMO with the Stock Rom on it.
I love this thing. It's plenty fast enough, runs everything I throw at it.
Also agree the Keyboard is nice even thought I RARELY ever use mine. I keep thinking about selling it while I could still get a few bucks for it, but... I just can't quite part with it.
I have a 16GB Pad, with a 16GB card in it. In the dock I have a 32GB card. I take my SD Card from my camera and put it in the dock, and bam, there are my pics.
Not to mention when the tab gets low on battery, I will just put it on the dock for 20 minutes. It sucks the juice out of the dock and is charged again. Very nice feature.
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How do you get yours running "really well"? I'm on stock as well - rather because I don't wanna unlock it before knowing, if ASUS will make nvflash possible or not - and with everyday using it the urge to flash a custom rom gets bigger.
I expect a 1,3ghz quadcore tegra to run a bit smoother and faster - but on stock rom it just doesn't really run smooth and fast...
For example: I use a app to record my bloodpressure over the day - doesn't really run that smooth on my tf300. Frankly, it runs a lot smoother on my desire hd. And I don't think a 1ghz cpu can beat a 1,3ghz quadcore
Also, the biggest disadvantage of stock rom: the microsd card is just a removable storage...if you have a lot of apps on a 16gb tf300 you'll experience insufficient storage here and there, especially when you're having games on it that require around a gb of space for their data.
As soon as I know whether the petition was successful or not I'll get rid of this lame stock rom and try clean rom
7eregrine said:
This is the first Android device that I have NOT rooted.
With the ability to DISABLE apps a standard feature in Jelly Bean, I just didn't feel like messing aroun d with it since the tab runs REALLY WELL IMO with the Stock Rom on it.
I love this thing. It's plenty fast enough, runs everything I throw at it.
Also agree the Keyboard is nice even thought I RARELY ever use mine. I keep thinking about selling it while I could still get a few bucks for it, but... I just can't quite part with it.
I have a 16GB Pad, with a 16GB card in it. In the dock I have a 32GB card. I take my SD Card from my camera and put it in the dock, and bam, there are my pics.
Not to mention when the tab gets low on battery, I will just put it on the dock for 20 minutes. It sucks the juice out of the dock and is charged again. Very nice feature.
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I totally agree with you. I have not had any issues at all with my tf300. I changed a few settings in developer options and disabled a few apps (stock browser for one), but other than that, I have found it runs really well on stock everything.
If possible, could someone post before and after actual usage videos of stock and then a custom rom? Or point me in that direction? I've done searches and all I get are benchmarks, which are decent to show raw performance, but I would like to see real world performance differences (such as web browsing, or games loading and running on stock and then custom) before I take the plunge of unlocking, rooting and voiding.
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I totally agree with you. I have not had any issues at all with my tf300. I changed a few settings in developer options and disabled a few apps (stock browser for one), but other than that, I have found it runs really well on stock everything.
If possible, could someone post before and after actual usage videos of stock and then a custom rom? Or point me in that direction? I've done searches and all I get are benchmarks, which are decent to show raw performance, but I would like to see real world performance differences (such as web browsing, or games loading and running on stock and then custom) before I take the plunge of unlocking, rooting and voiding.
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I can't find any comparison videos, but there's plenty custom ROM and stock videos on YouTube..maybe can try to judge from there?
Also, on my front, I found a really cheap one on amazon and am having a hard time keeping myself away from it. I reckon if there are problems with it, there's nothing the XDA community can't solve, right?
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Questions before buying N10

I'm going to get a Nexus 10 soon but first some questions.
- Does USB OTG work? I want to connect mice, keyboards, USB flash drives, and Xbox 360 controllers. Do all of those work?
- Overall impressions of the device? Recommend it?
- How bad is the app ecosystem? Do phone apps look really ugly on the tablet?
-How is battery?
-Is there a good stand, dock, or case that's recommended?
Please help me out. Thanks.
- Does USB OTG work? I want to connect mice, keyboards, USB flash drives, and Xbox 360 controllers. Do all of those work?
It works but you may need root for certain things although I don't think a mouse would work as it is a touch device.
- Overall impressions of the device? Recommend it?
Love it, far better than any Android tablet at the moment.
- How bad is the app ecosystem? Do phone apps look really ugly on the tablet?
A lot of apps have been improved and look better than before but not all, although I haven't found any apps that look horrendous.
-How is battery?
I find the battery is awesome, also a custom kernel/ROM can have a big impact on it.
-Is there a good stand, dock, or case that's recommended?
I use the poetic slimline case, there have been some issues with it not fitting properly but mine is fine, not sure about docks/stands
leeznon said:
I'm going to get a Nexus 10 soon but first some questions.
- Does USB OTG work? I want to connect mice, keyboards, USB flash drives, and Xbox 360 controllers. Do all of those work?
I use the usb otg cable and a four port usb hub. Keyboard and mouse are just plug and play. Which is the case for all the android devices I've owned. I've been rooted since the moment I bought it so I'm not sure if you need root for thumb drives.
- Overall impressions of the device? Recommend it?
I personally love the device. I had a Asus Tf101 before and this is a far better product.
- How bad is the app ecosystem? Do phone apps look really ugly on the tablet?
The apps are improving quite well and even the few non tablet apps that I use don't look horrible. Not sure if you can see the online play store in your location but if you can there is a tablet filter that can give you a better idea of the available apps.
-How is battery?
For the most part I use my at home after work. I find that it can easily last me three days.
-Is there a good stand, dock, or case that's recommended?
I have the iblason black faux leather case and the brown suede bear motion case off of Amazon. I'm finding now this i prefer the iblason which is about 18.00 on amazon.
Please help me out. Thanks.
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All said, except the case. There are plenty of options, I recommend you the moko.
- Does USB OTG work? I want to connect mice, keyboards, USB flash drives, and Xbox 360 controllers. Do all of those work?
Haven`t tried personally yet. My usb OTG is on the way
- Overall impressions of the device? Recommend it?
I personally recommend it, based on it`s specs, it`s still the best bang for the buck. But it also greatly depend on your needs from a tablet device.
- How bad is the app ecosystem? Do phone apps look really ugly on the tablet?
Given the high resolution screen, yes some app do look blurry or pixelated if not optimized for tablet. For me, i can live with it, we will get more and more tablet optimized apps for sure.
-How is battery?
Great battery life although below my expectations. It might be due to the device processing a high resolution panel.
-Is there a good stand, dock, or case that's recommended?
unfortunately no stand or dock at the moment from google. but the cases do make it stand. Just get a case that suit your needs.
Thanks for all the answers. Anyone else?
The stock unrooted firmware doesn't mount usb thumb drives when connected with OTG. The "Nexus Media Importer" app from the play store provides a smooth workaround for that, well worth the 3 or 4 USD I paid for it.
oysteivi said:
The stock unrooted firmware doesn't mount usb thumb drives when connected with OTG. The "Nexus Media Importer" app from the play store provides a smooth workaround for that, well worth the 3 or 4 USD I paid for it.
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Thanks for the heads up.
If I'm rooted, will work without needing the "Nexus Media Importer" app?
leeznon said:
I'm going to get a Nexus 10 soon but first some questions.
- Does USB OTG work? I want to connect mice, keyboards, USB flash drives, and Xbox 360 controllers. Do all of those work?
- Overall impressions of the device? Recommend it?
- How bad is the app ecosystem? Do phone apps look really ugly on the tablet?
-How is battery?
-Is there a good stand, dock, or case that's recommended?
Please help me out. Thanks.
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You may wish to consider an Asus TF700. For example, I have the integrated keyboard, an USB non-powered hub, a laser printer (hooked to the USB hub), Bluetooth speaker (powered by the hub), multiple USB hard storage devices (for moving large volumes of data such as movies between devices), a microhd 32 GB card (up to 128 GB possible), in addition to a regular SD card. Shortly I will add an USB ethernet adapter for additional speed when using it at my desk. All of this is with the stock configuration and is well integrated into the tablet experience. The TF700 may not be as fast as the Nexus 10- but I have found the speed very good with the optimal mix of apps. My impression is that the TF700 is a more versatile device if you need multiple storage/connectivity options ala a netbook and find the Android OS suitable for your needs.
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leeznon said:
Thanks for the heads up.
If I'm rooted, will work without needing the "Nexus Media Importer" app?
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When rooted, you can use the free StickMount app.
Some custom roms may mount USB sticks for you automatically, but I haven't experimented with this.
Dontvbe worried about software ... There are very inteligent developers outhere that work for this device . eventualy all the software problems will be resolved . be worried about the problematic hardware side and how to be able to return the product more faster process problems free .
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oysteivi said:
When rooted, you can use the free StickMount app.
Some custom roms may mount USB sticks for you automatically, but I haven't experimented with this.
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I had problems with Stickmount (can't recall what now). I've been using 'USB OTG Helper' which is a great app. As for how phone apps look: it's not that most of them look bad; they're just not optimized to take advantage of the extra screen real estate. But I'm finding more and more of my favorite apps have a separate tablet version, or install a tablet-optimized one if a tablet is detected.
I also recommend the Moko Slim-Fit leather case (Amazon). Very well made.
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ljg600 said:
You may wish to consider an Asus TF700. For example, I have the integrated keyboard, an USB non-powered hub, a laser printer (hooked to the USB hub), Bluetooth speaker (powered by the hub), multiple USB hard storage devices (for moving large volumes of data such as movies between devices), a microhd 32 GB card (up to 128 GB possible), in addition to a regular SD card. Shortly I will add an USB ethernet adapter for additional speed when using it at my desk. All of this is with the stock configuration and is well integrated into the tablet experience. The TF700 may not be as fast as the Nexus 10- but I have found the speed very good with the optimal mix of apps. My impression is that the TF700 is a more versatile device if you need multiple storage/connectivity options ala a netbook and find the Android OS suitable for your needs.
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The reason why I'm not considering the transformer is because it isn't running stock Android. And I'm not sure how the dev community is for it. Plus it's almost a year old and a new ones coming out soon, I don't know if I can wait.
leeznon said:
The reason why I'm not considering the transformer is because it isn't running stock Android. And I'm not sure how the dev community is for it. Plus it's almost a year old and a new ones coming out soon, I don't know if I can wait.
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The Asus Transformer series is comparatively minimalist with regards to Android customization versus other brands- though bloatware is an issue. There is quite a bit of 3rd party developer support. TF Android stock and custom updates have been prompt- though I am encouraged that Asus was cautious with 4.2. Of course, newer models will offer better performance- and where the need is not critical- it might be better to wait. Again, the hybrid market seems to be in rapid transition and the Transformer series is hardly the only option- for example, Windows 8 hybrids from Asus, Lenovo and others. I only made the suggestion because you focused on expandability- not a core strength of the Nexus 10. But the Nexus 10 has a lot of other strengths- though it to will probably have a faster replacement or hardware refresh soon...
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Thanks for the input, but I just ordered the N10.
Sorry for re-opening an old thread, but it seemed relevant to my situation.
Hi guys, finally decided to take the plunge and shell out for a Nexus 10. This will be my first tablet purchase, so naturally I want it to go as smoothly as possible.
Although a lot of what I've read from purchasers here seem to suggest it's anything but a smooth process with Google. I've terrified myself half to death with some of the stories here. I should probably also mention that I've never had to RMA any device before, but I'm almost fully committed to the fact that I'll have to with this, after all I've read about it.
So. What are the main problems are that people have experienced, which required RMAs and are they still present in the newer batches, seeing as it's almost 6mths old now?
I've looked around these forums for the past half week and found what I believe to be a fairly conclusive list and their possible resolutions. Is there anything else beyond this list I should be watching out for?
RMA for sure
- battery issues - less than 6hrs
- faulty usb/hdmi socket
- constant wifi drop
- speakers buzz
- no sound via hdmi
- crap stuck under screen
- loose to touch/clicky camera lens
- light bleeding (only RMA if excessive)
SOFTWARE UPDATE
- constant restarts with stock rom
BEARABLE WITH CASE
- creaky back cover
Also, is it easier to return to Google or Samsung should I need to RMA?
Thanks in advice for any advice guys.
Damn I'm lucky. Not one problem with my nexus 7 well the wife's now that I went and got a 10. And not a problem with my 10. And I picked my 10 up from a guy on craigslist for 375 for a 32gb.
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leeznon said:
Thanks for the input, but I just ordered the N10.
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You receive?
Can you tell me the first 3 characters of your serial number please? Trying to see if they are on third batch yet
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You receive?
Can you tell me the first 3 characters of your serial number please? Trying to see if they are on third batch yet
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Well mine just arrived 20 minutes ago. So far none of the issues I've seen around these forums. No creaky back. No creaky camera lens. No crap under the screen. It's on charge at the moment, so I can't check the other things like light bleed etc.
Oh and for reference it's an R32D model if that helps anyone. I'm in the UK too, for anyone questioning if UK is getting new or old stock.
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Well mine just arrived 20 minutes ago. So far none of the issues I've seen around these forums. No creaky back. No creaky camera lens. No crap under the screen. It's on charge at the moment, so I can't check the other things like light bleed etc.
Oh and for reference it's an R32D model if that helps anyone. I'm in the UK too, for anyone questioning if UK is getting new or old stock.
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Let us know if you have any reboot issues, and if so, check your surface flinger values

Didn't get the 32GB Model? This is better!

If you're like me, you decided that the 32GB model was too much for so small extra storage. I decided to go this route instead.
First, you pick up one of these:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/151083670634
Then you get one of these or use one you have laying around from a previous phone (I have several):
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007XZM6VG
Then you root and install "StickMount" from the market for free. You end up with a 48GB or larger model. It's also great for accessing photos I've saved on my Galaxy Note 2 (saved to SD) and viewing them on the bigger screen.
I do my Titanium and Nandroid backups to this device and then I'm not carrying them around on the device all the time taking up space. Yes, this even works with TWRP Recovery, as you go to the "Mount" menu and set it to look to your OTG device instead of onboard storage.
If I need to load up some movies for a trip, I put them on the SD and pop them in when I want to watch. Really works great.
I still like having the extra internal storage. I do plan on storing Nandroid and Titanium Backups backups on a flash drive using this method.
cyberprodigy said:
I still like having the extra internal storage.
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I thought I would, too, but the original Nexus 7 16GB was never more than half filled even with a ton of apps I never used. I tend to watch and listen to video podcasts and Google Music on my phone or it might be different.
Cubfan99 said:
I thought I would, too, but the original Nexus 7 16GB was never more than half filled even with a ton of apps I never used. I tend to watch and listen to video podcasts and Google Music on my phone or it might be different.
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Games, ROMs, and movies are what kill me. I like to store a few different ROMs, I have a bunch of large games (Grand Theft Auto, Bard's Tale), and I usually keep about 3-5 movies until I watch them.
At only 40 bucks difference in price, not getting the 32 seems silly.
Just so others know there are other flavors of usb otg devices out there. Just get the otg cable and connect an external drive or any usb stick. Or mouse/keyboard.
I got the 16gb model because they were out of the 32s where I picked up mine. Still thinking if I should go back and get the 32 but may give the cloud/lan a try and see how I do. I use tasker and a couple programs to auto upload files when I'm home, so really the only thing on my storage is apps. Media is all pretty easy to stream where ever I use a tablet.
I would rather have more internal storage then external storage. The fragile micro USB port is the weak point of the tablet so I want to use that as little as possible. Besides using it for fastboot and ADB while in recovery, I do everything else wirelessly including wireless charging, ADB over Wifi and transfer over WiFi. It is much more convenient to torrent straight onto the tablet then transferring from the PC via external storage or be dependent on the OTG adapter always plugged in for downloading onto. A single TV episode is 1 - 1.3 GB and a movie is 2 - 5GB so the ~11.5 GB of useable internal storage is really not enough.
I just use my router+external hard drive as an ftp server as backup. Also use it as a dlna server. No need to store anything locally. As long as I'm on my lan...
I like the one from www.meenova.com better since its a smaller form factor.
Only problem is that they aren't available yet.
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It was a not so smart move if you didn't buy the extra storage with this weeks OfficeMax deal!
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michaelg1030 said:
I like the one from www.meenova.com better since its a smaller form factor.
Only problem is that they aren't available yet.
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I was going to point that out too.
In case anyone is curious, there is a video describing the product here:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/andyfei/mini-microsd-reader-for-android-smartphones-and-ta
They blew out their kickstarter goal of $5k, raising over $70k
highfigh said:
I got the 16gb model because they were out of the 32s where I picked up mine. Still thinking if I should go back and get the 32 but may give the cloud/lan a try and see how I do.
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Exactly my situation... amazon was sold out on the 32. I actually think it is a good exercise to try using the smaller version with cloud services. I have plenty of Dropbox storage and have Dropsync Pro purchased. Also have box.com and Asus' storage solution. Must have 200gb total! File Expert cloud services works great and is quite fun.
This approach is just right for me. Not for everybody, of course.
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Roms kill me. Start crack flashing and next thing you know you're out of storage. I also like games and when playing BardsTale on my 16gb, I hit the wall. My 16gb got stolen the same day OfficeDepot started leaking the 32gbs early. I literally came home with 16gb, read XDA on PC and immediately left again.
OTG is handy but I wouldn't want to be reliant on it. I use it mostly for grabbing files off USB disks.
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sfhub said:
I was going to point that out too.
In case anyone is curious, there is a video describing the product here:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/andyfei/mini-microsd-reader-for-android-smartphones-and-ta
They blew out their kickstarter goal of $5k, raising over $70k
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I'm a backer, they're saying end of August it will be ready, can't wait
michaelg1030 said:
I like the one from www.meenova.com better since its a smaller form factor.
Only problem is that they aren't available yet.
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http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/andyfei/mini-microsd-reader-for-android-smartphones-and-ta
By the end of August they will be available, I've one ordered.
32GB is the best for me. Road trips and shorter car trips, I don't have access to cloud services, and I don't trust my young'uns to not break the micro USB connector with a cable and USB drive dangling from it. It's nice to have it locally and not be at the mercy of Internet speeds wherever I happen to be. Is there anything more annoying than stuttering youtube?
Not recommanding
TF card have very slow random I/O, it's better not to use TF card.
Low random I/O means slow game loading.
And don't think class 10 TF cards would be better at random I/O than class 2 ones because they are not.
Use small USB flash instead would be better, if possible.:cyclops:
I bought a 16 GB then I used the office max coupon and got the 32 GB f bout $15 cheaper then I paid for the 16
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wrichards2009 said:
I bought a 16 GB then I used the office max coupon and got the 32 GB f bout $15 cheaper then I paid for the 16
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Yeah, yeah. Goody for you. The point is if you didn't get the 32gb, this is a solution that works. Not for all who need the 32, but they wouldn't make a 16 if it wasn't good enough for many (like me).
michaelg1030 said:
I like the one from www.meenova.com better since its a smaller form factor.
Only problem is that they aren't available yet.
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I like that one, too. However, mine was cheap and the fact that the other one isn't available seems to weigh pretty heavily toward the one I selected, right?

Idea for possible solution to no SD card.

As we all know by now, the Note 5 does not come with an SD card slot. There are USB OTG adapters that will allow you to plug in a micro sd card reader and use the storage. My issue is they are bulky and cannot be kept on the device during daily use. My thought is, if the adapter is slim enough you may be able to plug into the micro usb slot and have the card wrap around the back of the phone behind a case. If anyone has seen something like this please let me know. Check out the link below to get a better idea of what i mean. The link is for a universal wireless charger that will link to your phone via micro usb. Instead of the cable linking to a qi charger, maybe it could link to a thin micro sd card reader. Please let me know what you think, maybe improve upon the idea.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=UTF8&psc=1&tag=androidcentral00-20&m1k=vb_ac
This is a good idea here as well, but it is still too thick to fit behind a case.
http://www.amazon.com/Idmix®-Chargi...7&sr=1-16&keywords=micro+usb+to+micro+sd+card
I think the best solution would be to rethink your workflow/usage scenario for the SD Card and find other ways to achieve what you want. You can also wait to see if they come out with the 128gb version, but between the 64gb storage option and changing how you do things, it should be achievable.
I know for a time the WiFi Drives were popular with iPhone users, that's not really a bad option either...
kevroc said:
I think the best solution would be to rethink your workflow/usage scenario for the SD Card and find other ways to achieve what you want. You can also wait to see if they come out with the 128gb version, but between the 64gb storage option and changing how you do things, it should be achievable.
I know for a time the WiFi Drives were popular with iPhone users, that's not really a bad option either...
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Yeah I did this a few years ago when I switched to a phone with no mSD slot, moved all my pictures and videos and **** to cloud storage, now I pay $10 a month and have 1TB of storage space I can put anything I want on. I back up all my photos to the cloud and delete them from my phone once I get a decent number accumulated.
I also have been streaming my music, I dont listen to music a TON, but when I do I generally am only getting 30-60 minutes of listening in, that's not all that much data to stream so it doesn't effect my data usage all that much.
All in all, I felt fine on 32GB of internal storage with no mSD card, 64GB is a breeze.
kevroc said:
I think the best solution would be to rethink your workflow/usage scenario for the SD Card and find other ways to achieve what you want. You can also wait to see if they come out with the 128gb version, but between the 64gb storage option and changing how you do things, it should be achievable.
I know for a time the WiFi Drives were popular with iPhone users, that's not really a bad option either...
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I do actually have a wireless option that reads sd cards, my use case, i would like to the storage attached so pics and videos can be directly stored. I pre-ordered the 64gb, i didnt want to hold out lol. I found another item that is getting me closer but now i have to figure out a way to read the ribbon cable lol
http://www.amazon.com/Manufacture-S...8297&sr=8-1&keywords=Micro+SD+Extension+Cable.
I was just looking at Wifi Drives on Amazon, looks like they've come a long ways... They actually seem pretty cool.
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sdakidd88 said:
I do actually have a wireless option that reads sd cards, my use case, i would like to the storage attached so pics and videos can be directly stored. I pre-ordered the 64gb, i didnt want to hold out lol. I found another item that is getting me closer but now i have to figure out a way to read the ribbon cable lol
http://www.amazon.com/Manufacture-S...8297&sr=8-1&keywords=Micro+SD+Extension+Cable.
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That cable is pretty cool. I know you can't beat direct storage, that's why I had the 128gb iPhone But honestly, managing that much space via usb sync etc. is kind of a hassle. Maybe the cable adapter is good for batch offloading, but do you really need that much local storage, I think you'd get tired of the extra bulk and the potential hassles of "mounting" the external card, read/write limitations, etc. that go along with all of that.
I got this monster on the go cloud from Sam's club for 10 bucks a few months back, really good deal.
http://www.monsterdigital.com/wireless-streaming/otg-cloud
By the way, have you guys seen this deal? Maybe i missed the price drop but this seems like an excellent deal to me!
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Adapt...=UTF8&qid=1439928867&sr=1-7&keywords=micro+sd
I would just buy a wifi UsB drive if your looking for something compact. Or just Dropbox it
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By the way, have you guys seen this deal? Maybe i missed the price drop but this seems like an excellent deal to me!
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Adapt...=UTF8&qid=1439928867&sr=1-7&keywords=micro+sd
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Yeah, that price drop popped up a week or two ago on slickdeals. If you can go up to SD Card, they're a bit cheaper/faster.
If they make this for the Note 5 like they did for the s6 and s6 edge it could solve the battery issue and the sd card problem
http://www.incipio.com/chargers/off...-extended-battery-case-samsung-galaxy-s6.html
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Good grief. The note 5 is big enough as it is. Last thing I would ever do is put a huge battery case on it.
There are always ideas. It's unfortunately that Samsung made that choice (Or maybe the Note Edge 2 supports it and they're trying to encourage people to go for the more expensive Note Edge 2? idk, Just a thought)
Solutions?
As mentioned previously, maybe there might be a case manufacturer that provides the support without the battery so it's lighter (or Samsung could surprise us with the S view case?)
Dual USB drive or NFC SD Card/ FD? sure you have to carry something extra that might get lost and all, but it's quite portable indeed :good:
Get a Note 4, install ported Note 5 ROM and voila!
Buy Cloud Storage or get an unlimited amount of cloud storage's
I'd use the battery /SD case in a minute! I have a note 2 with a 9300 mah zerolemon battery and I love my giant brick. That's why I don't care about design this, pretty that, glass this, feels good in hand that.
I just want my forever lasting brick phone! Whatever phone I get is getting either a zerolemon extended battery or a battery case.
Doesn't matter if the phone is pretty cause I'm never gonna see it!
I don't care because thinking about plugs and chargers something I never want to go back to!
I had been using this 64GB with my ex S6E - works very well. Is mini size and not bulky at all. It is auto detect by the phone and N5 users had reported it works well with it too
http://www.sandisk.com/products/mobile-flash-drives/dualdrive/
sdakidd88 said:
As we all know by now, the Note 5 does not come with an SD card slot. There are USB OTG adapters that will allow you to plug in a micro sd card reader and use the storage. My issue is they are bulky and cannot be kept on the device during daily use. My thought is, if the adapter is slim enough you may be able to plug into the micro usb slot and have the card wrap around the back of the phone behind a case. If anyone has seen something like this please let me know. Check out the link below to get a better idea of what i mean. The link is for a universal wireless charger that will link to your phone via micro usb. Instead of the cable linking to a qi charger, maybe it could link to a thin micro sd card reader. Please let me know what you think, maybe improve upon the idea.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=UTF8&psc=1&tag=androidcentral00-20&m1k=vb_ac
This is a good idea here as well, but it is still too thick to fit behind a case.
http://www.amazon.com/Idmix®-Chargi...7&sr=1-16&keywords=micro+usb+to+micro+sd+card
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I Ihave an S6 and I purchased a micro OTG with 64B of storage - you can get larger ones I think - it connects to the USB and sticks out about a half inch - great for additional storage - I keep nandroids on it and connect it when I want to restore a previous nandroid - you can do a lot with it - not as good as an EXT SD card - but it works pretty well. and it is very small
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I had been using this 64GB with my ex S6E - works very well. Is mini size and not bulky at all. It is auto detect by the phone and N5 users had reported it works well with it too
http://www.sandisk.com/products/mobile-flash-drives/dualdrive/
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This is the solution. I love it. Fast reliable and very nice ...
Ya, my note 3 has 544GB of storage using a 512GB full size sd card. I used a smaller adapter than the amazon one mentioned above and fit it completely inside my zerolemon case with the extended battery. If you are looking at the back of the phone, it fits just to the right of the camera. No bulge or anything. It looks completely normal.
I bought this from Amazon for my S6 - will be using for extra storage on my NOTE 5 http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-connector-Android-Devices--SDDD2-064G-G46/dp/B00RBGYGPG/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1439999149&sr=1-4&keywords=micro+otg
Pretty small - and works well. Best option I found - would love to find one smaller (it is about 3/4 to 1 inch long - and about 1/2 inch wide or so - just guessing about the size but I think it is pretty close to that.
Why not use a wireless external hard drive? Its almost like your own personnel cloud. 4TB for $200. Don't have to worry about monthly payments or being on a network/WiFi.
I'm thinking about getting one myself. Any thoughts/experience with these?
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Portable-External-Storage-STDA4000100/dp/B00HXAV0X6
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Android_Fr3ak said:
Why not use a wireless external hard drive? Its almost like your own personnel cloud. 4TB for $200. Don't have to worry about monthly payments or being on a network/WiFi.
I'm thinking about getting one myself. Any thoughts/experience with these?
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Portable-External-Storage-STDA4000100/dp/B00HXAV0X6
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Ya, I use one in addition to the sd card on my phone. It's definitely not as fast as a micro sd card would be, but it's usable. I really notice it when browsing directories. If you have anything over say a 100 photos or movies in a folder it takes about 3-4 seconds to load which is kinda annoying. This is my experience with an N router and USB 3.0. I'm doing a SMB share.

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