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The Perfect Phone

Lets start a list of all the things we want to change on the DHD then we will mail it to HTC and they will change it. Right?
Here's what I want to change
1. I want the 12mp Camera with xenon flash and Carl Z. lens from the Nokia N8
2. HDMI port

Why would you want > MP?
This is a phone, not a camera. NOT the other way around.
You might eventually want > optical zoom.
Why would you want HDMI when you have DLNA?

As begin, I thought Desire is an Awesome Phone. but still got some concern.
1. I would reckon a dedicated button, for camera or another specific apps.
2. No face detection on the camera apps. even Galaxy S does.
3. havent seen the voice command feature on the specification.
4. no front cam and cannot make video call. It's really SAD for a high end mobile phone.

adwinp said:
Why would you want HDMI when you have DLNA?
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Maybe his TV doesn't support DLNA?
I think streaming with DLNA is much more comfortable, because there is no cable between tv and smartphone. Think about a 1m HDMI calbe to your 52" tv...

arpaul said:
As begin, I thought Desire is an Awesome Phone. but still got some concern.
4. no front cam and cannot make video call. It's really SAD for a high end mobile phone.
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Didnt realize people actually used that... Had it on my four previous phones and never used it once...
But something i would like if i had to change something would have to be a bigger battery and a mini USB instead of a micro USB... But thats about it!

Relistic and changes optical ball better camera

You don't want more MP you want a bigger sensor. This is all the fault of the big camera makers touting MP as the be all and end all to sell cameras.
My SLR is only 10MP and takes phenomenal images because the sensor is much much bigger than any phone on the market.

DarrenT said:
You don't want more MP you want a bigger sensor. This is all the fault of the big camera makers touting MP as the be all and end all to sell cameras.
My SLR is only 10MP and takes phenomenal images because the sensor is much much bigger than any phone on the market.
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+1...even 5MPx is enought but with bigger sensor and faster chip...

Id have the audio jack at the top rather than the bottom. Thats about it.
I would say HDMI but the amout of times id acctualy use it is slim to non lol
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To add to the camera improvements the camera is all about its ability to gather light so id want :-
--Larger scensor sizw
--Better optics (a camera is only as good as its optics
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Only one..
The phone to be in flippin hand!!

Have dual core processor, maybe a tegra 2 or 3...
Have USB 3.0
Have HDMI, yes HDMI!!!, my tv and receiver have loads of them, and it's better to send things over HDMI than over DNLA... consume less battery, it's much faster, doesn't lag (only if your phone lags itself)
Better optics (don't need more Mpx, 5 or 6mpx is enough!!) and maybe optical zoom (digital zoom sucks!!!)
More internal storage (32GB at least!!!)
Maybe support for SDXC
Front Camera, yes we need 3G video calls (not that crap from Apple or ip video calls!!). I don't use it, but we never know when we may need it, in some case of emergency like a theft, kidnapping, natural disaster, etc... it can be very useful in those cases, you never know...

Im not really worried about camera quality... so for me:
- HDMI port (saves money, wouldnt have to buy DLNA adapter for telly)
- AMOLED screen (I no its 'over saturated' but it still looks good )
- To get an official gingerbread update (but then again, the devs here on xda will sort out a ROM for it anyway )

The smartphone makers will never release a phone that has verything, they wouldn`t have anything to release after a few months
For me, i would be happy with a phone that has:
- Se X10i battery (Li-Po, lasts even 4 days with moderate usage)
- SGS Screen (ya! SAMOLED with Gorilla Glass=nice! )
- DHD body (looks nice, no glossy plastic that atracts finger prints like magnet, as my SGS does)
- N8 camera (not because of MPs, but for the large sensor and for the audio quality of videos, i know, the sound is not from the camera )
- iphone 4 audio performance (i don`t believe i said iphone but i got to say it, it has a great sound quality)
That`s about it from what I can think of now.

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- To get an official gingerbread update (but then again, the devs here on xda will sort out a ROM for it anyway )
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who said it wont get 3.0 (gingerbread) ?
Im almost 100% shure HTC will give this device that update :-D

Personally, I'd want:
- A battery that lasts at least 2 days without charge
- Gorilla Glass!
- HDMI
adwinp said:
Why would you want > MP?
This is a phone, not a camera. NOT the other way around.
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Some people want the best of both worlds (even though personally I think 8MP is perfectly adequate) !
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Why would you want HDMI when you have DLNA?
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How many TVs actually use DLNA? I'd never heard of it until the Desire HD was released. I can't recall seeing any TV with DLNA, only HDMI.

Apache14 said:
who said it wont get 3.0 (gingerbread) ?
Im almost 100% shure HTC will give this device that update :-D
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Well yer your write it never was said that it wouldn't get gingerbread (which might not be 3.0...)
But then again, HTC haven't always been consistent with updates (*cough* HD2 *cough)

I prefer Android OS than Apple IOS, but HTC also prefer sells another Android phone than offering OS upgrade to the sold device. HTC like any company will not pay too much effort to upgrade Android OS to existing sold phone unless Google directly pull out any Android upgrade throughout the air and user has to leave any "SENSE addin" by rooting the HTC phone.

azreil24 said:
- DHD body (looks nice, no glossy plastic that atracts finger prints like magnet, as my SGS does)
- iphone 4 audio performance (i don`t believe i said iphone but i got to say it, it has a great sound quality)
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The body looks decent, but I wonder why the camera protrudes so much. It will look like a mini-condom if I end up putting it in my back pocket. That's not good for my ego.
The iPhone audio performance part of your list may be addressed in the DHD. I tried using some of the new audio settings in the new sense on my Desire, but none of them changed anything. I tested this using both UE SuperFi 5vi and Bose Bose in-ear headsets. No change at all so it may be something that's tied to the hardware.
So here's what I would add (btw I agree with most of what other posters have already listed):
Internal *fast* storage. This phone does record and play HD content after all. Having 32G fast internal storage *could* help to reduce a lot of the lag I experience when I start the Music app (as an example) and would help reduce the need to go out and purchase class 6 or better sd cards.
Stock software improvements which reliably use volume + and - as well as ff and rw in the wired headsets.

angler said:
I prefer Android OS than Apple IOS, but HTC also prefer sells another Android phone than offering OS upgrade to the sold device. HTC like any company will not pay too much effort to upgrade Android OS to existing sold phone unless Google directly pull out any Android upgrade throughout the air and user has to leave any "SENSE addin" by rooting the HTC phone.
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I'm not sure I follow. Do you mean that HTC doesn't provide updates to their phones or something else? I have a mix-bag experience with HTC on this. My Desire has been updated to 2.2, yet my Wildfire is still 2.1 (it's possible I missed an update, I only use that phone when I go out drinking because I won't care nearly as much about losing it).
I can't tell if you'e complaining about lack of updates in general or if it's the lag in your specific area or with your carrier.

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I am pretty certain that you would not need to underoot, even. I believe (and please correct me, aficionados, if I am wrong), the Nexus as a 5th low voltage processor that works when no intensive tasks are being performed, thus increasing battery life.

Deafcyclist said:
...payment register (using credit card swiper like Square or Intuit)...!
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Has anyone even tried this yet? I believe you need a speaker Jack that has both speaker output AND Mic input to use these devices.
The Nexus does not have a Mic input on the speaker Jack.
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Deafcyclist said:
screen out monitor, remote trigger, intervalometer, digital portfolio
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Tell me where I can get a compatible cable for a 5D Mik II and I'll let you know

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Deafcyclist said:
Looking at http://dslrcontroller.com/devices.php , it seem that you either only need an OTG adapter or in case of a similar set up with the asus transformer (Asus made the Nexus 7, right?), a special ASUS Usb cable (with a micro to mini usb adapter).
Any more than that, I can't help you as I don't have the dslr controller app, Nexus 7, or the cables.
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I'll order up some cables on eBay and let you know later this week.
I've been aware or the ability to control dSLRs via android and have done so using EOS Utility+Laptop
but with screen resolutions being what they were with droid devices I didn't see the point.
Now I have the N7 I can see how it may be very useful and be far superior to EOS utility+ bulky Laptop.

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There is a lengthy thread for the DSLR Controller here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1202082
People have got it working with an OTG cable, without rooting.
I'm waiting for my OTG cable (should be here Monday/Tuesday)..
Linking to a 7D, what are you guys shooting ?

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T4i ? nice!
If you didn't find it already take a look here, a whole bunch of info http://photography-on-the.net/forum/

Deafcyclist said:
... payment register (using credit card swiper like Square or Intuit)
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krelvinaz said:
Has anyone even tried this yet? I believe you need a speaker Jack that has both speaker output AND Mic input to use these devices.
The Nexus does not have a Mic input on the speaker Jack.
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This apparently is not accurate. There is a Mic, but the right speaker/mic combination needs to be used and a lot of apps don't apparently work while a few do.
Chances are, there will need to be some updates on this, most likely on the app side to get this to work properly. One would think that the credit card swipe devices would test it and tweak their apps to work. Think that using a smart phone might be a better choice since it has 3G/4G data and the Nexus 7 doesn't and would require a network connection to transmit the data though. Dont need a lot of size to do a credit card transaction.

So not to dis on the Nexus 7 at all but as a Photographer myself I would think you'd be better off with one of the Transformers for something like this. I just have a TF101 but its got a nice big screen and probably more than enough battery power with the keyboard dock for you to play with for a full day. Something like the higher resolution models out now would be even better.
The way I shoot weddings or even in the studio, it would be insanely cumbersome to move the subject, adjust the tripod and go to the tablet to take the pictures. I would end up using it mostly for previews. If you just want previews, since you have a camera with an SD slot, I'm pretty sure you're life would be MUCH easier just using a Eye-Fi card that syncs with the Nexus / Tablet by dropping JPG's into the gallery for you as you shoot (keeping the RAW's on the actual card assuming you shoot RAW).
The other thing to keep in mind with the Nexus 7 in your grand scheme of things is it is a really bad choice for displaying your portfolio due to the lack of on board storage and screen size. On a 10 inch table a landscape image looks small but barely passable in portrait and visa versa, on a 7 inch I wouldn't even consider it passable and would need to format portrait or landscape portfolios = more work for me!
Last but not least, just use your phone for CC transactions, it's always with you and always has a network connection and stuff like Square should just work without having to Jerry Rig anything.
Not trying to change your mind on anything, just some insight form a like minded photographer. Honestly with the exception of the Eye-Fi for previews by the time you mash together a workable solution you'll probably hate having to set everything up and find yourself working around a new set of self imposed limitations rather then doing what photographers like to do, taking good pictures.

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Making Streamer Out of Nexus 10 (Via HDMI Cable), Will it be Worth it?

Hello to all people,
I've been reading quite a lot lately about (android) tablets because I want to buy one at last.
I managed to shrink my options to 2: Nexus 10 and Asus Transformer Pad Infinity.
After hard digging about the Infinity in the forums I decided to drop it and go with Nexus 10.
One of the reasons I want a tablet is to make a streamer on the go from it...
I want to connect it to my TV with a HDMI cable to stream some movies.
But from tons of the reviews I read, I only noticed one review mentioning the quality and stability of the streaming. And It wasn't positive.
So I am asking you guys (and girls), what's your experiences on using the tablet this way?
Sorry for my poor English, its not my native language.
Thank you in advance for your answers,
Leon.

HDMI streaming works good. The picture quality is great; however, I do not get any audio through HDMI. This might be a cable issue. Not a big deal since you can output audio through the audio jack.
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Just tried it. Works great hooked up to my surround set. I get audio as well so everything works
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Thanks for the answer you 2.
Although there is many threads on some issue when streaming via HDMI, like no sound and black stripes on the sides and flickering I was reading....
makes me kinda worry...

Can you make full-screen the tv with no black spaces in the sides? i hate that
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Works great on the N10. Don't buy an Asus tablet though. Their software is laggy and buggy as hell, and they don't support their devices. I had a TF201 and it was absolutely nothing but headaches. Stay away from Asus. You've been warned.
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nyijedi said:
Works great on the N10. Don't buy an Asus tablet though. Their software is laggy and buggy as hell, and they don't support their devices. I had a TF201 and it was absolutely nothing but headaches. Stay away from Asus. You've been warned.
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Well that's why I said I am choosing Nexus 10 over the Asus one... You are not the only one who suffered, and I read most of the complains people wrote.
I have other question though.
Since I lack the experience on the issue:
How does optical audio cable can be used with an HDMI cable to stream audio from the first and video from the second?
Asking because I have a receiver connected to my 5.1 audio set.

Does work, but mine struggles with higher bitrate 1080p movies over wifi.
There are bars but these may be able to be removed if you get rid of the 3 quick buttons at the bottom, not sure if this is possible with custom software.
Not quite sure what you mean by this comment:
"How does optical audio cable can be used with an HDMI cable to stream audio from the first and video from the second?"

re: stay away from Asus
nyijedi said:
Works great on the N10. Don't buy an Asus tablet though. Their software is laggy and buggy as hell, and they don't support their devices. I had a TF201 and it was absolutely nothing but headaches. Stay away from Asus. You've been warned.
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Couldn't agree more. I tried out a TF700 from Amazon for a month, and during that period I had to exchange once from Amazon for a defect in the screen, then send the replacement in for warranty repair because of the same problem. Got it back from warranty 'repair' and it had the same problem in a different location of the screen. Returned them both to Amazon and bought a Nexus 10 from the Play store on launch day.
Couldn't be happier.
I was also amused that the rep claimed they had no prior reports of the screen/bezel problem, when the TF700 threads on here are filled with posts about it. And of course, if you've unlocked your bootloader (using the tool they provide) you have absolved them of any responsibility to repair manufacturing defects that passed through 'quality control' at their factory.

MPJ88 said:
Does work, but mine struggles with higher bitrate 1080p movies over wifi.
There are bars but these may be able to be removed if you get rid of the 3 quick buttons at the bottom, not sure if this is possible with custom software.
Not quite sure what you mean by this comment:
"How does optical audio cable can be used with an HDMI cable to stream audio from the first and video from the second?"
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What I meant to ask is this:
I know that Nexus 10 does not posses optical audio port (TOSLINK), so I was wondering what people that want to use this sort of audio output do? Withought forgetting that the HDMI cable is beeing used for the picture and not the sound...
bachamn said:
Couldn't agree more. I tried out a TF700 from Amazon for a month, and during that period I had to exchange once from Amazon for a defect in the screen, then send the replacement in for warranty repair because of the same problem. Got it back from warranty 'repair' and it had the same problem in a different location of the screen. Returned them both to Amazon and bought a Nexus 10 from the Play store on launch day.
Couldn't be happier.
I was also amused that the rep claimed they had no prior reports of the screen/bezel problem, when the TF700 threads on here are filled with posts about it. And of course, if you've unlocked your bootloader (using the tool they provide) you have absolved them of any responsibility to repair manufacturing defects that passed through 'quality control' at their factory.
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That's quite the horror story :cyclops:

TheBigL said:
Hello to all people,
I've been reading quite a lot lately about (android) tablets because I want to buy one at last.
I managed to shrink my options to 2: Nexus 10 and Asus Transformer Pad Infinity.
After hard digging about the Infinity in the forums I decided to drop it and go with Nexus 10.
One of the reasons I want a tablet is to make a streamer on the go from it...
I want to connect it to my TV with a HDMI cable to stream some movies.
But from tons of the reviews I read, I only noticed one review mentioning the quality and stability of the streaming. And It wasn't positive.
So I am asking you guys (and girls), what's your experiences on using the tablet this way?
Sorry for my poor English, its not my native language.
Thank you in advance for your answers,
Leon.
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Streaming works great here. I can tell you as a former infinity owner that the nexus 10 blows it out of the water...
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TheBigL said:
What I meant to ask is this:
I know that Nexus 10 does not posses optical audio port (TOSLINK), so I was wondering what people that want to use this sort of audio output do? Withought forgetting that the HDMI cable is beeing used for the picture and not the sound...
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so you want something like this?:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=1011002&p_id=5557&seq=1&format=2#description

MPJ88 said:
so you want something like this?:
-- "Link you gave me" -- (I cant repost it because I am a new posting user)
Yes, Thank you very much. :good:
I now know the direction I am heading to.
But I would like to keep it more cleaner and simpler.... Isn't it any other way to just split the HDMI cable into an HDMI and optical audio cable?
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Speaking of HDMI out, is it possible to disable the tablet screen while outputting to a TV? Kinda like how a laptop works?

zero383 said:
Speaking of HDMI out, is it possible to disable the tablet screen while outputting to a TV? Kinda like how a laptop works?
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Yes, I'd like to know that also. My previous tablet was a BB PlayBook and it had controls for when you were connected to HDMI that let you control the output resolution, whether audio was passed through etc.. Is there anything like this in Android?

zero383 said:
Speaking of HDMI out, is it possible to disable the tablet screen while outputting to a TV? Kinda like how a laptop works?
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tofo17 said:
Yes, I'd like to know that also. My previous tablet was a BB PlayBook and it had controls for when you were connected to HDMI that let you control the output resolution, whether audio was passed through etc.. Is there anything like this in Android?
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Try an app called Screen Standby. Works great for me on my Galaxy Nexus.
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TMFGO45 said:
Try an app called Screen Standby. Works great for me on my Galaxy Nexus.
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Thanks for that unfortunately it needs root and I don't want to go there (yet).
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TMFGO45 said:
Try an app called Screen Standby. Works great for me on my Galaxy Nexus.
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Tried it but doesn't work with my rooted Nexus 10. The screen flashes and stays on instead of turning off.

I connected the Nexus 10 to my TV:
- stereo audio is ok
- bad picture quality (its resizing)
- big black borders at the left and right side
- wrong frame rate on TV - movies look very bad
for me its a no go. Its absolutely not worth it.

I think it certainly must be possible as toslink is digital audio and hdmi outputs digital audio as well. I don't think any conversion would be needed so all you need is someone who makes the cables and takes the audio pinouts from the hdmi and routes them to a toslink cable as well. Unfortunately there isn't exactly a massive demand for such a cable so either find someone who makes the cables or maybe trawl the hi-fi websites to see if anywhere would sell them.
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[Question] Just bought a Nexus 7, does it support HDMI out?

I have a micro usb to HDMI adapter, I think its a MHL plug. However it doesn't fit.

The Nexus 7 does not support HDMI, MHL, or any type of direct connect video out, period. The microUSB port can be used for USB OTG duties: keyboards, mice, USB Flash memory devices, even USB hard drives if necessary, but not any form of video output.
NEXT!!!

No offense, but did you blindly buy this product or blindly buy this product?
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I wish it did, but sadly it doesn't. I knew that before I bought one, though.
Pairing it with the YouTube app on my PS3 is pretty awesome however.

Just bought a Nexus 7. Where is the PCI express slot? How do I install my video card? Just teasing the OP..but dang...
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phillip1953 said:
Just bought a Nexus 7. Where is the PCI express slot? How do I install my video card? Just teasing the OP..but dang...
Sent via my Nexus 7, Amiga 3000 or HTC EVO 3D
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The PCI express lane is located near the sata 3gbs port, unfortunately Google didn't give us any 6gbs ports, really sucks because I wanted to use an SSD.

andrew.cambridge said:
No offense, but did you blindly buy this product or blindly buy this product?
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Actually I did, I've been eyeing the Nexus 7 for a couple of months, reading up on it and looking at reviews. However I never read about HDMI out on it until it occurred to me today.

A reasonable question posted on XDA sometimes receives snarky responses. Not all of them are with ill intent, but this (XDA forums) isn't the most friendly environment. That little ribbing was quite nice though

Just get a MK802 and flash CyanogenMod on it.

You could use a custom rom like the Android transporter to mirror ur nexus 7 to a screen.
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I am pretty sure the N7 has the hardware to do MHL but they havent given us the cookies yet.
It was even used in the keynote for the N7:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJGiEQgaZYs&feature=player_detailpage#t=598s
I just found this, got a xbox 360 or apple tv?
http://www.doubletwist.com/help/question/how-do-i-stream-to-xbox-360-or-playstation-3-from-my-android-device/

r00t4rd3d said:
I am pretty sure the N7 has the hardware to do MHL but they havent given us the cookies yet.
It was even used in the keynote for the N7:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJGiEQgaZYs&feature=player_detailpage#t=598s
I just found this, got a xbox 360 or apple tv?
http://www.doubletwist.com/help/question/how-do-i-stream-to-xbox-360-or-playstation-3-from-my-android-device/
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same happened to me. i bought it right after watching the keynote this guy mirroring the device... too bad i dont know how he did it !!!!!!! .. money back!!!
ilegal marketing !! HAHAH

Well that's quite interesting and I'll be the first to admit when I'm apparently wrong - I'd never seen that video before but it is quite obvious there's some video out going on, and even if it's just mirroring it would still be better than the "nothing" we currently have with the N7. Hell, my laptop has a 1280x800 screen in it so it's a perfect match when I remote in with the N7 anyway... would be nice to do things the other way around.

ynrozturk said:
I wish it did, but sadly it doesn't. I knew that before I bought one, though.
Pairing it with the YouTube app on my PS3 is pretty awesome however.
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More info please? Pair it to control the YouTube app or mirror screen?

r00t4rd3d said:
Just get a MK802 and flash CyanogenMod on it.
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Wow that actually looks like a good device.
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After watching that full intro video I'm suspecting what they had there was a modified Nexus 7 just for that capability, aka a demo testing unit, but who knows what's possible at this point.
I'd suspect if Google has intentions of a new Nexus 7 "upgraded version" sometime this year - that's the big hope, of course - that perhaps we'll see some extra goodies thrown in for good measure.
But when you really take the big view of things I don't think we'll see a Nexus 7 updated with a) any form of expandable storage (sadly), b) a back camera, c) a video/MHL/HDMI capable output, and d) a change in screen resolution.
If you watch that intro video they are very specific and precise in stating they wanted to make a "perfect content consumption device" and if all you do with the Nexus 7 is "consume content" that means it's going to remain basically as it is right now, perhaps with optional models for more storage (64GB will probably be the max), and they may even stick with Nvidia for a Tegra 4 version, I don't know but I can speculate pretty readily given what we do know from the current 1st gen Nexus 7 models and what Nvidia has announc--errr, leaked about the Tegra 4 so far.
Yes, I do love this tablet, but also yes I wish it did just a tiny bit more in some respects like the ones I pointed out above. I wish the dock pins supported actual data transfer instead of just being charge-and-audio-out capable, but that's just me I suppose.
Regardless, considering I paid $25 for this Nexus 7 of mine, believe me I'm one damned happy camper these days, especially with 4.2.2 now out and battery life even better on the stock kernel if I want it.

Allowing data over the pogo pins would lead to mass corruption. Some dope tries to pogo a rom, bumps their device, done.

r00t4rd3d said:
Allowing data over the pogo pins would lead to mass corruption. Some dope tries to pogo a rom, bumps their device, done.
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As if you can't have a kid (if you have any) or a pet (as if you have any) or you yourself can do some idiot move and rip a microUSB cable out of the device when you're doing the very same thing?

br0adband said:
After watching that full intro video I'm suspecting what they had there was a modified Nexus 7 just for that capability, aka a demo testing unit, but who knows what's possible at this point.
I'd suspect if Google has intentions of a new Nexus 7 "upgraded version" sometime this year - that's the big hope, of course - that perhaps we'll see some extra goodies thrown in for good measure.
But when you really take the big view of things I don't think we'll see a Nexus 7 updated with a) any form of expandable storage (sadly), b) a back camera, c) a video/MHL/HDMI capable output, and d) a change in screen resolution.
If you watch that intro video they are very specific and precise in stating they wanted to make a "perfect content consumption device" and if all you do with the Nexus 7 is "consume content" that means it's going to remain basically as it is right now, perhaps with optional models for more storage (64GB will probably be the max), and they may even stick with Nvidia for a Tegra 4 version, I don't know but I can speculate pretty readily given what we do know from the current 1st gen Nexus 7 models and what Nvidia has announc--errr, leaked about the Tegra 4 so far.
Yes, I do love this tablet, but also yes I wish it did just a tiny bit more in some respects like the ones I pointed out above. I wish the dock pins supported actual data transfer instead of just being charge-and-audio-out capable, but that's just me I suppose.
Regardless, considering I paid $25 for this Nexus 7 of mine, believe me I'm one damned happy camper these days, especially with 4.2.2 now out and battery life even better on the stock kernel if I want it.
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They could mirror their nexus 7 display because it had hdmi out on their unit. They didn't add this feature on the nexus 7 because this would raise the price of the nexus 7.
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r00t4rd3d said:
Just get a MK802 and flash CyanogenMod on it.
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MK808 is much faster. Highly recommended! Plays games like a boss.
However there is no video out capabilities on the N7 in a last ditch effort to shave off costs.
They are working on wifi streaming... but nothing yet.
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Questions before buying N10

I'm going to get a Nexus 10 soon but first some questions.
- Does USB OTG work? I want to connect mice, keyboards, USB flash drives, and Xbox 360 controllers. Do all of those work?
- Overall impressions of the device? Recommend it?
- How bad is the app ecosystem? Do phone apps look really ugly on the tablet?
-How is battery?
-Is there a good stand, dock, or case that's recommended?
Please help me out. Thanks.

- Does USB OTG work? I want to connect mice, keyboards, USB flash drives, and Xbox 360 controllers. Do all of those work?
It works but you may need root for certain things although I don't think a mouse would work as it is a touch device.
- Overall impressions of the device? Recommend it?
Love it, far better than any Android tablet at the moment.
- How bad is the app ecosystem? Do phone apps look really ugly on the tablet?
A lot of apps have been improved and look better than before but not all, although I haven't found any apps that look horrendous.
-How is battery?
I find the battery is awesome, also a custom kernel/ROM can have a big impact on it.
-Is there a good stand, dock, or case that's recommended?
I use the poetic slimline case, there have been some issues with it not fitting properly but mine is fine, not sure about docks/stands

leeznon said:
I'm going to get a Nexus 10 soon but first some questions.
- Does USB OTG work? I want to connect mice, keyboards, USB flash drives, and Xbox 360 controllers. Do all of those work?
I use the usb otg cable and a four port usb hub. Keyboard and mouse are just plug and play. Which is the case for all the android devices I've owned. I've been rooted since the moment I bought it so I'm not sure if you need root for thumb drives.
- Overall impressions of the device? Recommend it?
I personally love the device. I had a Asus Tf101 before and this is a far better product.
- How bad is the app ecosystem? Do phone apps look really ugly on the tablet?
The apps are improving quite well and even the few non tablet apps that I use don't look horrible. Not sure if you can see the online play store in your location but if you can there is a tablet filter that can give you a better idea of the available apps.
-How is battery?
For the most part I use my at home after work. I find that it can easily last me three days.
-Is there a good stand, dock, or case that's recommended?
I have the iblason black faux leather case and the brown suede bear motion case off of Amazon. I'm finding now this i prefer the iblason which is about 18.00 on amazon.
Please help me out. Thanks.
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All said, except the case. There are plenty of options, I recommend you the moko.

- Does USB OTG work? I want to connect mice, keyboards, USB flash drives, and Xbox 360 controllers. Do all of those work?
Haven`t tried personally yet. My usb OTG is on the way
- Overall impressions of the device? Recommend it?
I personally recommend it, based on it`s specs, it`s still the best bang for the buck. But it also greatly depend on your needs from a tablet device.
- How bad is the app ecosystem? Do phone apps look really ugly on the tablet?
Given the high resolution screen, yes some app do look blurry or pixelated if not optimized for tablet. For me, i can live with it, we will get more and more tablet optimized apps for sure.
-How is battery?
Great battery life although below my expectations. It might be due to the device processing a high resolution panel.
-Is there a good stand, dock, or case that's recommended?
unfortunately no stand or dock at the moment from google. but the cases do make it stand. Just get a case that suit your needs.

Thanks for all the answers. Anyone else?

The stock unrooted firmware doesn't mount usb thumb drives when connected with OTG. The "Nexus Media Importer" app from the play store provides a smooth workaround for that, well worth the 3 or 4 USD I paid for it.

oysteivi said:
The stock unrooted firmware doesn't mount usb thumb drives when connected with OTG. The "Nexus Media Importer" app from the play store provides a smooth workaround for that, well worth the 3 or 4 USD I paid for it.
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Thanks for the heads up.
If I'm rooted, will work without needing the "Nexus Media Importer" app?

leeznon said:
I'm going to get a Nexus 10 soon but first some questions.
- Does USB OTG work? I want to connect mice, keyboards, USB flash drives, and Xbox 360 controllers. Do all of those work?
- Overall impressions of the device? Recommend it?
- How bad is the app ecosystem? Do phone apps look really ugly on the tablet?
-How is battery?
-Is there a good stand, dock, or case that's recommended?
Please help me out. Thanks.
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You may wish to consider an Asus TF700. For example, I have the integrated keyboard, an USB non-powered hub, a laser printer (hooked to the USB hub), Bluetooth speaker (powered by the hub), multiple USB hard storage devices (for moving large volumes of data such as movies between devices), a microhd 32 GB card (up to 128 GB possible), in addition to a regular SD card. Shortly I will add an USB ethernet adapter for additional speed when using it at my desk. All of this is with the stock configuration and is well integrated into the tablet experience. The TF700 may not be as fast as the Nexus 10- but I have found the speed very good with the optimal mix of apps. My impression is that the TF700 is a more versatile device if you need multiple storage/connectivity options ala a netbook and find the Android OS suitable for your needs.
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leeznon said:
Thanks for the heads up.
If I'm rooted, will work without needing the "Nexus Media Importer" app?
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When rooted, you can use the free StickMount app.
Some custom roms may mount USB sticks for you automatically, but I haven't experimented with this.

Dontvbe worried about software ... There are very inteligent developers outhere that work for this device . eventualy all the software problems will be resolved . be worried about the problematic hardware side and how to be able to return the product more faster process problems free .
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oysteivi said:
When rooted, you can use the free StickMount app.
Some custom roms may mount USB sticks for you automatically, but I haven't experimented with this.
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I had problems with Stickmount (can't recall what now). I've been using 'USB OTG Helper' which is a great app. As for how phone apps look: it's not that most of them look bad; they're just not optimized to take advantage of the extra screen real estate. But I'm finding more and more of my favorite apps have a separate tablet version, or install a tablet-optimized one if a tablet is detected.
I also recommend the Moko Slim-Fit leather case (Amazon). Very well made.
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ljg600 said:
You may wish to consider an Asus TF700. For example, I have the integrated keyboard, an USB non-powered hub, a laser printer (hooked to the USB hub), Bluetooth speaker (powered by the hub), multiple USB hard storage devices (for moving large volumes of data such as movies between devices), a microhd 32 GB card (up to 128 GB possible), in addition to a regular SD card. Shortly I will add an USB ethernet adapter for additional speed when using it at my desk. All of this is with the stock configuration and is well integrated into the tablet experience. The TF700 may not be as fast as the Nexus 10- but I have found the speed very good with the optimal mix of apps. My impression is that the TF700 is a more versatile device if you need multiple storage/connectivity options ala a netbook and find the Android OS suitable for your needs.
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The reason why I'm not considering the transformer is because it isn't running stock Android. And I'm not sure how the dev community is for it. Plus it's almost a year old and a new ones coming out soon, I don't know if I can wait.

leeznon said:
The reason why I'm not considering the transformer is because it isn't running stock Android. And I'm not sure how the dev community is for it. Plus it's almost a year old and a new ones coming out soon, I don't know if I can wait.
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The Asus Transformer series is comparatively minimalist with regards to Android customization versus other brands- though bloatware is an issue. There is quite a bit of 3rd party developer support. TF Android stock and custom updates have been prompt- though I am encouraged that Asus was cautious with 4.2. Of course, newer models will offer better performance- and where the need is not critical- it might be better to wait. Again, the hybrid market seems to be in rapid transition and the Transformer series is hardly the only option- for example, Windows 8 hybrids from Asus, Lenovo and others. I only made the suggestion because you focused on expandability- not a core strength of the Nexus 10. But the Nexus 10 has a lot of other strengths- though it to will probably have a faster replacement or hardware refresh soon...
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Thanks for the input, but I just ordered the N10.

Sorry for re-opening an old thread, but it seemed relevant to my situation.
Hi guys, finally decided to take the plunge and shell out for a Nexus 10. This will be my first tablet purchase, so naturally I want it to go as smoothly as possible.
Although a lot of what I've read from purchasers here seem to suggest it's anything but a smooth process with Google. I've terrified myself half to death with some of the stories here. I should probably also mention that I've never had to RMA any device before, but I'm almost fully committed to the fact that I'll have to with this, after all I've read about it.
So. What are the main problems are that people have experienced, which required RMAs and are they still present in the newer batches, seeing as it's almost 6mths old now?
I've looked around these forums for the past half week and found what I believe to be a fairly conclusive list and their possible resolutions. Is there anything else beyond this list I should be watching out for?
RMA for sure
- battery issues - less than 6hrs
- faulty usb/hdmi socket
- constant wifi drop
- speakers buzz
- no sound via hdmi
- crap stuck under screen
- loose to touch/clicky camera lens
- light bleeding (only RMA if excessive)
SOFTWARE UPDATE
- constant restarts with stock rom
BEARABLE WITH CASE
- creaky back cover
Also, is it easier to return to Google or Samsung should I need to RMA?
Thanks in advice for any advice guys.

Damn I'm lucky. Not one problem with my nexus 7 well the wife's now that I went and got a 10. And not a problem with my 10. And I picked my 10 up from a guy on craigslist for 375 for a 32gb.
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leeznon said:
Thanks for the input, but I just ordered the N10.
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You receive?
Can you tell me the first 3 characters of your serial number please? Trying to see if they are on third batch yet

SayWhat10 said:
You receive?
Can you tell me the first 3 characters of your serial number please? Trying to see if they are on third batch yet
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Well mine just arrived 20 minutes ago. So far none of the issues I've seen around these forums. No creaky back. No creaky camera lens. No crap under the screen. It's on charge at the moment, so I can't check the other things like light bleed etc.
Oh and for reference it's an R32D model if that helps anyone. I'm in the UK too, for anyone questioning if UK is getting new or old stock.

theta_sigma2 said:
Well mine just arrived 20 minutes ago. So far none of the issues I've seen around these forums. No creaky back. No creaky camera lens. No crap under the screen. It's on charge at the moment, so I can't check the other things like light bleed etc.
Oh and for reference it's an R32D model if that helps anyone. I'm in the UK too, for anyone questioning if UK is getting new or old stock.
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Thanks for info
Let us know if you have any reboot issues, and if so, check your surface flinger values