[Q] Stuck in choosing ROMS/Kernels. Please helps!! - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I am looking for a good combination of Rom and Kernel for maximum Gaming experience. Currently, im using Jr11 and motley kernel, and considering going back to Glazed rom which is imho the best rom for gaming. What do you guys think? Please give me advices. TIA

Before you get flamed by others for having clearly not read the forum rules, I'll say now that the only way to know is by testing them out for yourself.
Afterall, what works great for someone else could work terrible for you.
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KidCarter93 said:
Before you get flamed by others for having clearly not read the forum rules, I'll say now that the only way to know is by testing them out for yourself.
Afterall, what works great for someone else could work terrible for you.
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this is the only correct answer. try them all out, find what your device reacts to best and what fills your needs the best.
that said, my device likes trinity kernel with the rasbean jelly rom.

I use ParanoidAndroid 2.99 Beta6 with Franco kernel r30. I undervolted it too at [email protected] 1,3ghz down to [email protected] 100mhz and i can run the [email protected] 550mhz without problems. I haven't done extensive tests but i think that overclocking the gpu would give the highest gains in terms of gaming performance, but i don't exclude obtaining a little extra performance or more stable fps with some roms.
As the guys above said, it's a matter of taste, not every rom works for everybody.

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[REF] All ICS ROMs Benchmarked

Results in Google Docs Spreadsheet
All ICS ROMs Benchmarked
Any regular visitors to this thread can't have failed to notice the big changes in the spreadsheet. In particular I've been studying the effect of the kernel the ROM developer includes. If you look at column H, you will see whether I recommend flashing another kernel to improve performance at stock speeds.
REMEMBER: Performance is not everything! Many custom kernels provide extra features!
If you do decide to switch kernels, and only desire stock speeds and a reduced feature set, I recommend two kernels in this post.
If you are new to this stuff read this.
SUMMARY OF RESULTS
#1st place: Pixel ROM 1.72
#2nd place: CyberGR-MOD|NS.NGN ICS v10 HYBRID
#3rd place: MIUI Catalyst 2.4.6
#4th place: AOSP+ N.5
#5th place: [MIUI][2.4.6] Oodie pRiMe rOcket fUeled
Where do I find all these wonderful ROMs?
Their XDA threads are all linked in the table, so click through to discover each ROM's feature set, included apps, theme, and evidence of good karma!
Looking for a Gingerbread ROM? Try this.
Where did all your other benchmarks go?
Kernel Features & Benchmarks: this thread
Battery drain: this thread
CPU Governors and I/O Schedulers: this thread
Power Saving Governors: this thread
Thanks to all the developers.
Testing Methodology
Each ROM is clean installed, allowed its own default settings, then all benchmark software is installed and run once the system is settled. I also perform one screen off screen on, just out of habbit (this used to resolve a graphics bug in gingerbread, which I'm not even sure exists in ICS). All results are recorded in the spreadsheet. Then I restart in recovery, wipe cache and dalvic (thanks morfic for dalvic wiper) and install morfic's T132-I kernel. Reboot, use nstools to select performance (default I/O scheduler for morfic's kernel is deadline). Reperform all benchmarks, recording them in the spreadsheet. The calculation for the overall CPU RAM I/O and GRAPHICS scores is identical to the one I use in my kernel benchmarking spreadsheet. Please refer to that thread for more detail. However, there is one difference. Quadrant behaves very differently in different ROMs depending on what graphics tweaks they incorporate. As such, no Quadrant scores are used in this ROM benchmarking study. For more details, see under 'Graphics' below.
The final step was to average out the results of both kernel scores, and ranking on that basis. Some would say that they are best ranked by looking at T132 scores only. I would say that is a fair point, and definitely worth consideration.
There are two reasons I incorporate the default kernel score:
1) Overall scores have a worst case scenario accuracy of within 2% of the true mean due to variability in the benchmarks (more detail on how I obtain this figure is available in my kernel benchmarking thread). For normally distributed data (which we can safely assume these benchmarks produce) averaging two sets of results will result in doubling the accuracy to within 1% of the true mean, making the ranking more reliable.
2) Combining the default kernel Scores for ROMs that used a poor performing kernel, or selected bad governor/scheduler combinations by default will suffer as a consequence. These problems can be solved if the user flashes their own preferred kernel and/or adjusts the kernel settings. However, many new users will not perform this step. For that reason, I want to give a score that at least somewhat reflects the performance as the developer intended.
-Graphics
One of the early findings is selecting force GPU rendering in the developer options improves 2D performance, in Quadrant only. Also, and only in Quadrant, 3D performance can be improved by deleting or moving /system/lib/egl/libGLES_android.so using root explorer or equivalent. These tweaks/hacks do not seem to affect other benchmarks in the slightest.
Because of the bizarre effects of these tweaks on Quadrant scores, I have removed them from the formula that calculates the overall GFX score, and this in turn impacts the overall average score. In short, it makes comparing each ROM's score fairer.
You can see evidence of how the graphics tweaks make Quadrant behave differently at the bottom of the spreadsheet, highlighted in light red. The host ROM for this particular comparison was DianXin or DX ROM for short. This is a reference to a post I make in DX ROMs thread, where I first decide that removing Quadrant is the best option: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22323688&postcount=194
-Android 4.0.1
These ROMs (at the bottom of the spreadsheet, highlighted in light red) were based on early maguro ports provided by koush. I have left them in, because although they are difficult to compare to 4.0.3 builds with the correct drivers and whatnot, they do compare to each other in one important respect: the kernel. One is stock, the other is built by eugene373 (galaxy nexus/nexus s dev.) Using eugene373's kernel, CPU, I/O, and Graphics were all raised to a high standard that is on a par, or above some of the current ROMs. This goes to show that a customised kernel can offer great benefits, even on a ported ROM.
-Android 4.0.4
As of the 5th of February, my table contains all the ICS ROMs that are listed in the XDA forums. There was only one 4.0.4 version at the time, and this was the best performing in the benchmarks. When the source code is released, I'm sure many ROMs will update. At this point they will benefit from increased RAM scores and javascript performance. If all the ROMs scores improve by the same proportion, the rankings will not be affected. I will attempt to included major releases, but I will not reperform these tests every time there is a new nightly.
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Thanks
I was waiting for this
It might lead to troll wars though
By the way, i dont see Pete ICS rom in there, im using it.
Ibn Saeed said:
Thanks
I was waiting for this
It might lead to troll wars though
By the way, i dont see Pete ICS rom in there, im using it.
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Thanks, and no troll wars please y'all.
Don't you think "popularity" is going a little too far? It will definitely lead to fights...all the devs are good and I don't think prominence is a good indicator of a good rom
But it's up to you
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Personally, benchmarks are very misleading... Some of the most stable and well developed roms don't get the greatest scores because they weren't made with benchmarks in mind.
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Another great work! Thanks
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mathkid95 said:
Don't you think "popularity" is going a little too far? It will definitely lead to fights...all the devs are good and I don't think prominence is a good indicator of a good rom
But it's up to you
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just remember, popular doesnt mean better. but to get angry at the truth(whatever it might be) is just silly. its lies that you should be upset with.
Where's Peter Alfonso's ROM? Bugless Beast is a mainstream rom, second only to Cyanogenmod in scope and breadth.. The ROM thread is in the General forum, because he links to his page at Rootzwiki, but it's a more prominent ROM than many you've listed.
Please include it in the benchmarking as well.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1430170
you didn't add and test this one
please add pete ics bugless beast.
Omissions fixed!
UPDATE: kwiboo's project removed, was an SDK port. So so tired now, got to sleep. Tomorrow begin again with Brainmaster's tweaked ICS
Which kernel is used to make the tests?
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Forget It...
"I'll be benchmarking them twice with whatever kernel they come with, and then with morfic's bare boned T132"
biotecsoul said:
Which kernel is used to make the tests?
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Read the op.
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u could also add overnite battery drainage column with sync on or somethin like that, if not overnite then a period of 2 hrs idle .. how much does it drain ..
Holy **** man, what would it be if the NS comunity didnt have you??
Thumbs up!!!!
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thegtfusion said:
Holy **** man, what would it be if the NS comunity didnt have you??
Thumbs up!!!!
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Haha, that makes me feel good. Wait, Benchmarks > XDA thread > Positive XDA user feedback > Dopamine release = Addiction to benchmarking? Time to join crackflashers anonymous...
mathkid95 said:
Don't you think "popularity" is going a little too far? It will definitely lead to fights...all the devs are good and I don't think prominence is a good indicator of a good rom
But it's up to you
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I doubt it would lead to fights between devs, well hopefully not. I can see users arguing stuff more than devs.
Benchmarks aren't that good anways.
BTW, your kernel sucks!!!!
Just kidding been running smoothly since I started using it the other day
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Thanks for the ratings system. Looks nice!

[REF] bedalus' R&D compendium!

Over my time here in XDA I've built up a few studies on the Nexus S.
Here are the links. There are summaries in each thread in the first and second (and sometimes third) posts of the main findings, but I've done some very quick and minimal overviews here also.
How to build a kernel: this thread
-This post takes you through installing Ubuntu right through to managing git, in order to compile your own kernel, and flash it in CWM recovery!
-Includes the tools you need to add MTP capabilities to your kernel.
User eXperience Benchmarks: this thread
-This shows which ROM and kernel threads have the best user feedback. The feedback is processed by an external sentiment analysis API. It is only meant as a rough guide, something of a quick reference particularly if you are looking for a new ROM to try. As of June 2012 this is no longer maintained.
All ICS ROM Benchmarks: this thread
-Freely available benchmark programs were used to determine which ROMs had the best performance. Generally the difference between the best ones is very small.
Battery Drain Benchmarks: this thread
-A collection of tips for getting the best battery life, and dispelling some myths.
Kernel Features and Benchmarks: this thread
-My original study, the one that started it all, the kernel benchmarks! Provides a quick table to compare which kernels perform best in CPU/RAM/IO/Database/Graphics.
CPU Governors and I/O Schedulers: this thread
-A study done to find which schedulers perform best in combination with the most popular governors. My two favourites (ondemand and smartassV2) combine best with noop.
Power Saving Governors: this thread
-A meta study done combining the findings from the battery study and governor study to show which governors will save the most power. Ondemand comes out significantly better than conservative, which surprised me. SmartassV2 is the best compromise for high performance and efficiency.
Does SuperCharging work?: this thread
-This was just a short study to find out if this script is suitable for the Nexus S, but it turned out it had no effect, positive or negative.
Kernel Memory Allocators: this thread
-This is another short study for kernel developers to show that SLUB performs best.
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This thread is just an index. Our new mod veyka agreed would be a good idea to summarise all my studies for addition into the sticky roundup.
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EDIT: Feel free to suggest any new things that I might be able to test!
im out of thanks for today.. but, awesome work regardless. thank you
simms22 said:
im out of thanks for today.. but, awesome work regardless. thank you
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Me too, but thank you too!
Edit: ah just use the app, unlimited thanks!
bedalus said:
Me too, but thank you too!
Edit: ah just use the app, unlimited thanks!
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really? unlimited? i dont use the app though, just the browser.
Uh, well, I haven't tested the limit... but I never get denied!
All your work was great I battery drain thread was very helpful
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Thanks for all your hard work.
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IF , one of my assassins had done their job ..........
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When they finally come for me, I will benchmark their performance.
bedalus said:
When they finally come for me, I will benchmark their performance.
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nice answer
And nice guide for your very instructive benchmarks bedalus
Even when browsing through the app you'd still get that annoying thanks limit.
This is a really good overview for new NS users. (I doubt there are ever some since mostly would go directly for G-Nex)
What's next?
That "Oodie's Assassins' Performance Benchmark" sounds interesting, though.
PS: @Oodie, you should have kanged your assassins before sending them to bedalus' compound. That way, your assassins' would have at least injured bedalus
UPDATE: Memory Allocators studied. SLUB wins!
Great reference for a refresher or for a new comer. Really like the battery drain benchmarks and how you discuss some myths. Governors is great...love Smartass V2 with Matrix V20!!
Thanks @bedalus!! Totally deserves a sticky.
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Thanks. It's in the sticky roundup!
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Thanks. It's in the sticky roundup!
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Can we vote for the sticky or it is just for the moderators?
There was like ten stickies, I think veyka wants to keep everything in a list in one sticky.
I appreciate the sentiment though!
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There was like ten stickies, I think veyka wants to keep everything in a list in one sticky.
I appreciate the sentiment though!
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thank you for all your work, love your kernels ... currently been using deadline/ondemand but since you say it is not best I will try smartassv2+noop.. (I've found smartass with other combinations give me a lot of lag)
BLaZeDRas said:
thank you for all your work, love your kernels ... currently been using deadline/ondemand but since you say it is not best I will try smartassv2+noop.. (I've found smartass with other combinations give me a lot of lag)
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Ondemand for good balance between performance and battery saving. Smartassv2 for gaming. CFQ and deadline are the best governors, but deadline probably has the edge.
Thanks! Now this widens my perspective on choosing my own Governor and Scheduler Combo.

User feedback

So I've got some time at the moment to work on the vibrant again, so I figured I'd ask you guys a question.
What are you guys wanting out of the vibrant?
I'm not really one to go for the latest and greatest buzz word feature like "Linaro build" or "optimized build prop," etc.
lengthy posts are encouraged, tell me what you still want out of this device. What do you use it for? What do you want to use it for? Etc.
Like I said, not looking for "gimme 500MB ram" or " an updated 2.3 kernel", I wanna know what user experience your looking for.
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No takers?
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Now we have almost faultless ROMs and kernels, the only issue is GPS.
+1 on GPS
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Now we have almost faultless ROMs and kernels, the only issue is GPS.
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Point if the question was missed, it's not about faults. Also there are very talented individuals working on the GPS issues. I cannot test GPS as mine no longer works. I want to know not just for me but also the talented Devs working on the vibrant, what ideas do you guys have for improving the Android experience, just in this case I happen to be gearing it toward the vibrant as I won't be working in anything else myself. That doesn't mean it's faulty, there is always room for improvement.
Anyway...not monitoring this thread anymore....Idgaf anymore and people not gonna answer :3
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ECOTOX,
Just in case you do monitor this thread Ill give you a request. Ive built a couple of Froyo ROMs now, and plan to stick with Froyo for some time (at least until the EU error fixed)
That said I usually package the Bali 18.8.UV kernel with them. My favorite Froyo kernel is the DMZ kernel.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/633-kernel2213ghzdragonmodz-nightly3smartassscary8262011140pm/
What set your work apart is the fact it could stepclimp in 100mhz increments. My phone pukes at anything over 1100mhz. Its has the smartass governor (the one I want) that works perfectly. It is smooth, quick, and almost perfect for my needs. Ive only packaged it with one of my ROMs due to the lack to stepclimbing. Here is a request:
Ive tried up to 3 different overclock / volting programs. Tried to set it manually via init script, but the kernel has 2 stock settings: 500mhz / 1000mhz. If I I overclock to 1100mhz I only get three settings: 500/1000/1100. Is there any way you could get a 200mhz in there?
That said your git is available. I don't know how but I guess I could try and build my own based off your source / patches. You kinda sounded like you wanted to help/work some on the T959. With the EU error we have more folks coming back to Froyo every day. Froyo is not dead if I have anything to say about it -
Thanks for your time (I if read this)
+1 on GPS
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GPS is primarily due to inadequate or faulty hardware design. We have pushed the limits of trying to fix it with software guys.
I personally would love more battery life. I truly cannot get more than 45 minutes of screen time in ICS.
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How about intergrating more RAM?
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Moped_Ryder said:
ECOTOX,
Just in case you do monitor this thread Ill give you a request. Ive built a couple of Froyo ROMs now, and plan to stick with Froyo for some time (at least until the EU error fixed)
That said I usually package the Bali 18.8.UV kernel with them. My favorite Froyo kernel is the DMZ kernel.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/633-kernel2213ghzdragonmodz-nightly3smartassscary8262011140pm/
What set your work apart is the fact it could stepclimp in 100mhz increments. My phone pukes at anything over 1100mhz. Its has the smartass governor (the one I want) that works perfectly. It is smooth, quick, and almost perfect for my needs. Ive only packaged it with one of my ROMs due to the lack to stepclimbing. Here is a request:
Ive tried up to 3 different overclock / volting programs. Tried to set it manually via init script, but the kernel has 2 stock settings: 500mhz / 1000mhz. If I I overclock to 1100mhz I only get three settings: 500/1000/1100. Is there any way you could get a 200mhz in there?
That said your git is available. I don't know how but I guess I could try and build my own based off your source / patches. You kinda sounded like you wanted to help/work some on the T959. With the EU error we have more folks coming back to Froyo every day. Froyo is not dead if I have anything to say about it -
Thanks for your time (I if read this)
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Lol happened to be browsing the forum for info and saw you posted here.
I'll make you a kernel, but I'm not 100%sure I'm sticking with the 100mhz steps for my own release but I'll make you one specifically. I might, but I want to get voltage control working with 100mhz steps, I also gotta work on keeping the gpu clocks more stable.
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I would be in your debt sir. Thanks for your time.
I just wanted to say thanks for the great work on DMZ, ECOTOX. It has surpassed Overstock as my kernel of choice, but I had one quick question/request. Is it an issue with the kernel or with a particular ROM for some functions to get a little quirky when you start to overclock into the 1.2Ghz range? Whenever I set the CPU ceiling to 1.2Ghz the long press functions on the haptic buttons of the Vibrant would become flakey. I read that's fairly common with overclocking, but was curious who the culprit might be.
Not knowing anything about how scalers/governers can be implemented, what would the chances be to get something like Smartass v2 or a few more options on a new Froyo kernel? I liked messing around with them when I was running Sub-Zero on ICZen to find that happy medium of battery life vs performance.
I say a Galaxy S III themed gingerbread ROM. Anyone?

Best Kernel for 4.2

Hey everyone, I have been on the hunt for the last few days for the best Kernel for my N7, in regards to performance. Earlier today someone turned me onto M-Kernel. I must say, it is very impressive. It has a built in 1.9 GHz overclock, that I was able to set via no-frills. I am running Clean ROM.
This is a multi-purpose post. First off, I wanted to let everyone know about my experience because I had a little trouble figuring out the best combo. The second reason is I would like to know if anyone knows of any other ROM/Kernel combos to get the highest quadrant score possible.
I have a co-worker who has a Galaxy SIII, and we have a friendly rivalry. I would really like to blow his phone away with my Nexus.
Thanks!
Check the link in my sig for my guide to the 'best' kernels. I don't think there is a lot of difference between roms in terms of benchmarks results.
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bcvictory said:
Check the link in my sig for my guide to the 'best' kernels. I don't think there is a lot of difference between roms in terms of benchmarks results.
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Clemsyn's Elite Kernel CPU overclock to 1.8GHz and GPU overclocked to 700MHz
droidhaxxor said:
Hey everyone, I have been on the hunt for the last few days for the best Kernel for my N7, in regards to performance. Earlier today someone turned me onto M-Kernel. I must say, it is very impressive. It has a built in 1.9 GHz overclock, that I was able to set via no-frills. I am running Clean ROM.
This is a multi-purpose post. First off, I wanted to let everyone know about my experience because I had a little trouble figuring out the best combo. The second reason is I would like to know if anyone knows of any other ROM/Kernel combos to get the highest quadrant score possible.
I have a co-worker who has a Galaxy SIII, and we have a friendly rivalry. I would really like to blow his phone away with my Nexus.
Thanks!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889571
Motley is an overall great kernel

Best ROM + Kernel that allows UV?

Hey I'm kind of noob at this but like does anyone know what the best ROM and Kernel when installed on the same nexus 4 lets me undervolt and gives me the best battery life?
Thanks
Hello Noob,
First off I would like to say you can't ask that question around here. It's just not allowed.
You need to find out what's best for you. Try all the kernels and roms and experiment with it. That's is part of the process of being here on XDA forums. I'm positively sure all or if not most of the kernels here has the ability to undervolt. To curb the misconception, i just want to say that undervolting does little to no power saving at all.
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