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Onnia 7 QC issues?

(why is there no omnia 7 forum?)
I've just been told by t-mobile that the Omnia 7 has QC issues and their deliveries yesterday were returned to their suppliers, anyone know what these might be?

I just picked one up today from Orange!.. I wonder if mine is affected
I heard from vodafone store that their delivery of LG Optimus (Win7) came in and had to be recalled immediately without sale due to a bluetooth issue.

The build quality of the Omnia is one of the things that worries me after reports like this and the issues with the Galaxy series.
Evilanglic, since you now have your hands on one, what are your impressions of the device? Does it seem solid?

Much more solid than I was expecting. I thought it would feel like a light plastic shell like the Samsung Galaxy S.
It really is very nice, no creaks, just a solid slab of deep black technology! Good times.
The back is actually wrapped in metal to the edge of the screen on the sides, it is only the top and bottom of the device which are solid plastic sort-of-cap/ends of the device.
You definitely can't call it a unibody (or can you?..) but as I say... sort of mostly 'wrapped' in a sheet of metal.
It was a close call between the (SAMOLED) Omnia and the (very nice crisp LCD) HTC Mozart, the latter fits the hand better of course due to size, but in the end the slick all black face of the Omnia, adorned with its high contrast SAMOLED screen, just made it worth it despite the low actual PPI!
It would have been nice if the rockers and camera buttons where more metallic or... metal, but instead they are old school black plastic. They work well nonetheless.
The home button is also not the most premium of push switches (compared to iPhone of course) but it is nice to have a soild key!
I would urge you to get both of these devices side by side in the store if you can, but be careful because it took me at least 20 minutes to tell the man which one I wanted to take out lol...
Here are a few pics of the construction as links:

I'm jealous. I have about 2 weeks before WP7 comes out in the US. That and you guys got the better selection of phones (minus Micro SD expansion). I am definitely getting the Focus though. Best choice out of the options available in my opinion.

ryotgz said:
I'm jealous. I have about 2 weeks before WP7 comes out in the US. That and you guys got the better selection of phones (minus Micro SD expansion). I am definitely getting the Focus though. Best choice out of the options available in my opinion.
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It's very un-Microsoft!

Freypal said:
The build quality of the Omnia is one of the things that worries me after reports like this and the issues with the Galaxy series.
Evilanglic, since you now have your hands on one, what are your impressions of the device? Does it seem solid?
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Yeah. I wont touch a single Samsung phone after the trouble the Vibrant gave my stepmom. It's not fun trying to give tech support to someone 1500 miles away, over the phone with the issues, to a lady with no clue about technology.
EDIT: It reminded me of the time I had to help someone with Windows ME. They didn't know where the "desktop" was! As you can imagine, that was a loooooong phone call.

ericc191 said:
Yeah. I wont touch a single Samsung phone after the trouble the Vibrant gave my stepmom. It's not fun trying to give tech support to someone 1500 miles away, over the phone with the issues, to a lady with no clue about technology.
EDIT: It reminded me of the time I had to help someone with Windows ME. They didn't know where the "desktop" was! As you can imagine, that was a loooooong phone call.
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I've owned a few samsungs in the past (years ago lol), and they didn't give me any trouble. I suppose it was before the major smartphone race of the the last few years though haha.
I only went for the Omnia after holding it myself, there was no way I was going to order a Samsung phone without getting into a store and exploring it - but it was more solid than expected.
Hopefully if there are any support problems in the future, I will just take it to the high street store I got it from and play super dumb and demand a replacement or different phone lol... no harm done.
It seems like a negative thing to say but keep in mind that the phone really is good right now, no problems at all, everything works perfectly so far.
Note for those not in the know: the location based issues of Android Samsungs are not present here! On maps it focuses down with GSM triangulation and GPS pinpoint kicks in a couple of seconds later, super speedy!

Well that's a relief. I suppose the biggest factor that makes it feel so much better is that it's got some metal, right?

Mine's just arrived.
First impressions are very good. It feels very sturdy with no creaks and the metal casing is nice. It feels much more solid than my HTC Blackstone, although I am worried about such a large screen getting damaged!
It's going to have to stay off whilst the sim card registers. Annoying wait ahead!

How come you got this over the mozart?

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How come you got this over the mozart?
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I was reading conflicting reviews on the Mozart's camera and since I mainly use my mobile for web browsing the extra screen acres sold it for me.
The screen quality is awsome by the way. The device also looks way better in the flesh. It seems it may also have Cornings gorilla glass which would be a welcome addition!

Freypal said:
I was reading conflicting reviews on the Mozart's camera and since I mainly use my mobile for web browsing the extra screen acres sold it for me.
The screen quality is awsome by the way. The device also looks way better in the flesh. It seems it may also have Cornings gorilla glass which would be a welcome addition!
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For web browsing I might have thought it possibly more comfortable to use the Mozart's SLCD with RGB pixels (higher subpixel count) if you have good eyes that is lol.
I just cant get over how amazing the 4" SAMOLED looks though...
Because of the all black screen surround, and the nature of the WP7 text laid out to the edge of the screen, it sort of looks like your phone is just one massive display, which a lot of it is... lol
The blacks of the SAMOLED just merge with the black surround! So cool.
Where does the screen end?! lol
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I am a happy omnia 7 owner. Just like what the other said, solid construction, beautiful screen.
But the build in app is sub-par (vs lg optimus) and I hope I don't regret choosing a device with 8GB of storage.
Cheers

A user over on MoDaCo forums is reporting that their T-Mobile account manager has told them that the Omnia 7 has been temporarily pulled due to software issues.
I've been waiting on one of these for some time as well, and was told today that their most recent update for handset stocks (issued internally today) did not include a new batch of Omnia 7s. The CSR I spoke to wouldn't be drawn on any specific problems with the handset, except to say that "there have been a few issues" with the ones we've received, and that I would be receiving a call in due course to let me know when mine would be delivered.
Does anyone else know anything about this?

gcaw - apparently they have dispatched Omnia 7's now on T-mobile, so I'd get on the phone ASAP.

risq - many thanks for letting me know about that. As it happens, fifteen hours after I'd made my previous post, I received a call from T-Mobile to let me know that they had stock and confirming delivery later today, but I'm grateful that you informed me of that - and hopefully others will have taken note of that information and successfully placed orders themselves.
I was also pleased to hear from the CSR (the same one I spoke to yesterday) that T-Mobile is extending the same deal to new Omnia 7 owners as it offers to Android buyers, giving 3GB of monthly data usage at no additional cost, rather than the standard 1GB offered under the fair usage policy for other handsets.
Compared with the rather pitiful 500MB offered on O2's contracts, that's a pretty awesome deal.

QC seems top notch!
Posted this on another forum. I'm happy about the build:
Well it had to happen sooner or later, in under a week I've dropped the Omnia 7 while lazily trying to hit snooze just moments ago (typing this message with my phone now lol). Dropped from about table height, and while it was dark, sounded like it landed on a corner first... Picked it up in the dark and dropped it again, this time hitting face flat on the ground.. My floors got a wood finish on top of a normal concrete slab so its pretty solid. Shocked and not feeling so lazy anymore, turned lights on, inspected phone, and absolutely no scratches to be seen...i think this is due to the matte looking polycarbonate plastic they use, plus the color looking like its been amalgamated with the actual plastic, I say this because I remember on my htc touch HD the bezel would scratch/chip so easily because all it was was some cheap paint over plastic/metal? As for glass, i read it's gorilla glass, whether or not it is, I'm glad it isn't scratched... My screen protector can't come soon enough,
Either way, I'm glad to know the Omnia7 is a solid beast . Though in truth, after dropping it, my excitement and feelings of it being a new toy has slightly washed off... My feeling now is 'it might be damaged somewhere'

Meltdown?!? Oh my!

Well this certainly would be a deal breaker.
http://m.pocketnow.com/2012/06/21/g...ng-aware-of-the-problem/?wpmp_switcher=mobile
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there are already like 2 threads about this.. did we need another?

Welcome to two days ago OP.
close thread please.
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CatThief said:
Well this certainly would be a deal breaker.
http://m.pocketnow.com/2012/06/21/g...ng-aware-of-the-problem/?wpmp_switcher=mobile
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This would of made a great at&t 4G commercial

Now if only Samsung would care this much about lesser issues like the screen problems.

Oh no. Oh no! OH YEAH!
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Old..... and dupe thread.

wow...
and here I thought my S3 is way more cooler than my old S2...

demonwind said:
Now if only Samsung would care this much about lesser issues like the screen problems.
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What screen problems?
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Yes, one reported melted phone and suddenly all of the millions of phones out there are ticking time bombs? Don't be silly...
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shevo said:
wow...
and here I thought my S3 is way more cooler than my old S2...
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It is, the battery is a different story.

graffixnyc said:
there are already like 2 threads about this.. did we need another?
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I did not see them. Thank you for your graceful kindness in pointing that out.
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Love it.
I love all the Samsung name calling that's going on in the comments of the article in the OP.
So, lets look at this, 9 million devices pre-ordered, god only knows how many others sold, already. 1 in 9 million catches fire and melts, and all of a sudden Samsung has gone completely wrong?
I wish people would grow up. As for the one guy with a One X, I just like a comment I read here on XDA somewhere that people justify to themselves their purchase by making out they got the best device for one reason or another.
All I can say is, when it comes from an S3 owner, it's true, we really do have the best consumer mobile device on the planet xD
:cyclops: I wish we had a troll smiley.

It is, the battery is a different story.
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If you bothered looking up the other discussion thread and the original photos of the damaged phone, you'd soon see that the battery is one of the few components it could NOT have been.

i hope that fake picture does work it's magic like it was supposed to.
so guys, please watch those pictures closely. it' is claimed that the phone melted by itself, right ? so this means the heat source has to be inside of the phone. if you burn something from the outside with a lighter for example you will get black marks on the item where you hold the lighter to and not so dark black marks on the areas around it.
so when this phone did melt because of an very high internal heat source, why is the most black part of the phone on the outside and the less black marks further away from the phones border?
in addition to that just look at a picture of the disassembly of the phone and where the heat source would have needed to be, if it melted because of inner parts of the phone. (keep in mind it's still BS because the marks that are visible on the phone point to someone using external heat.)
at the point of the black marks is only a screw hole (left to the microusb port), so do you really think the holding of a screw or a screw itself would magically heaten up to such an extent?
if you check the other ifixit-teardown pictures you clearly see that apart from that metallic holding for a screw there is not even a chip where the supposed melt down occured. surely the creater of this fake picture wants to make you believe that the empty space did heat up so much that it melted, lol
i don't want to point fingers here, but it is extremely telling how much energy some people spend just to convince others that the galaxy s3 is crap and their phone (most of the cases the one x) is better. there is no reasonable explanation for those people other than psychological deficit which leads them to spend unusual amounts of energy to worsen samsungs reputation or justify their own choice of another phone. a healthy human being would just not care about other phones. if you are satisfied with your own decision you are at ease and would not even try to point fingers at others and how the others are (allegedly) worse.
the fact that samsung said "it nows of that case" is the standard call center reply, to let the customers think that "everything is in check". just think what the feel of the customer was, when the support tells him "hey, we never heard of such a thing and have no clue what to do".

v1rtu4l said:
i hope that fake picture does work it's magic like it was supposed to.
so guys, please watch those pictures closely. it' is claimed that the phone melted by itself, right ? so this means the heat source has to be inside of the phone. if you burn something from the outside with a lighter for example you will get black marks on the item where you hold the lighter to and not so dark black marks on the areas around it.
so when this phone did melt because of an very high internal heat source, why is the most black part of the phone on the outside and the less black marks further away from the phones border?
in addition to that just look at a picture of the disassembly of the phone and where the heat source would have needed to be, if it melted because of inner parts of the phone. (keep in mind it's still BS because the marks that are visible on the phone point to someone using external heat.)
at the point of the black marks is only a screw hole (left to the microusb port), so do you really think the holding of a screw or a screw itself would magically heaten up to such an extent?
if you check the other ifixit-teardown pictures you clearly see that apart from that metallic holding for a screw there is not even a chip where the supposed melt down occured. surely the creater of this fake picture wants to make you believe that the empty space did heat up so much that it melted, lol
i don't want to point fingers here, but it is extremely telling how much energy some people spend just to convince others that the galaxy s3 is crap and their phone (most of the cases the one x) is better. there is no reasonable explanation for those people other than psychological deficit which leads them to spend unusual amounts of energy to worsen samsungs reputation or justify their own choice of another phone. a healthy human being would just not care about other phones. if you are satisfied with your own decision you are at ease and would not even try to point fingers at others and how the others are (allegedly) worse.
the fact that samsung said "it nows of that case" is the standard call center reply, to let the customers think that "everything is in check". just think what the feel of the customer was, when the support tells him "hey, we never heard of such a thing and have no clue what to do".
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If you actually check iFixit yourself as you suggested and check the back of the board at the same position you will notice that the bottom capacitive microphone is in exactly that position, and since it is a type of capacitor, it can blow up like that. Stop with your consipiracy bull****, malfunctions happen and this is just another of them, although a weird one. It had nothing to do with the battery or any other of the more complex components.

AndreiLux said:
If you actually check iFixit yourself as you suggested and check the back of the board at the same position you will notice that the bottom capacitive microphone is in exactly that position, and since it is a type of capacitor, it can blow up like that. Stop with your consipiracy bull****, malfunctions happen and this is just another of them, although a weird one. It had nothing to do with the battery or any other of the more complex components.
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Exactly.
So f*cking what if ONE component in ONE phone malfunctions!!
Samsung will replace his phone, all will be good in the world again, let it go.
#****happens #unnecessaryhashtagsonxda
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Dupes... dupes everywhere!
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Cracked Camera Glass. Another build quality issue?

I've had my One from Rogers Canada since launch day last Friday.
I've been reading all the issues here about the build qualities of this phone. Mine has a hair gap on the top and the screen also rises slightly at the top edge. I've decided that these were ok and happily used my phone with great care.
No I do not have a case, and neither did I use a case for my previous Samsung Infuse which I used 2 years without dropping it ever.
Today when I turned my One over, the camera glass was cracked! It looks like it got hit somewhere and just gave in. Seems pretty impossible as the rest of the phone is in perfect condition without a single scratch. I keep the phone in my pocket top down, screen facing inwards as I always have in the last few years.
This is so frustrating...I'm afraid if I get an exchange I'll end up with one or more of the several build issues that people have been seeing.
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You will get an exchange for a damaged phone that was caused by you (intentionally or unintentionally) ? They should kick you out of the store for asking that or hang up on you if you call to simply get it exchanged without paying for the damage.
People these days .....

Probably wasn't a high impact hit. You probably leaned on the corner of a table or something without realizing it and the pressure from the corner was focused all on that point.

The do not believe that I should be held responsible for this glass. It should point to the fact that the glass might have been fractured slightly so that slight pressure pushed it in from the beginning.
The argument is that I have used this phone for 3 days, taking exceptional care of it, and ended up with a cracked camera glass as opposed of my previous phone, which I used for 2 years and doesn't have a dent in its plastic, let alone cracked glass.
Also, why be so offensive Mr insomnia? Is the fact that the One's build quality is way lower than expected hurting your fanboy heart?

Probably be a great time to buy a case, don't you think?
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it seem like has been hit by a bullet , maybe HTC One saved your life !

Feel sorry for you bro. I am getting a leather pouch this weekend to avoid any damage to my One
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even if you didn't do this, You're going to have a hell of a time proving it. You very well could have just leaned on it too hard during the day and put pressure on the glass. You need a real friendly service rep to accept the possibility there was a previous fracture

10 years ago if this were a psp or gameboy we all knew we were sh1t out of luck and that it was our own fault. We "deserve" nothing.
Clowns

mettleh3d said:
10 years ago if this were a psp or gameboy we all knew we were sh1t out of luck and that it was our own fault. We "deserve" nothing.
Clowns
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Times have changed, customers expect more because companies are providing more. If I can get better quality service why would I settle for less?
Also, phones shouldn't be designed with cases in mind. I shouldn't need to have a case for my phone to prevent camera glass shattering through normal daily use.
I'm heading back to the store tomorrow and see if I get a nice rep to help me. I'll let you guys know

jackwu95 said:
Times have changed, customers expect more because companies are providing more. If I can get better quality service why would I settle for less?
Also, phones shouldn't be designed with cases in mind. I shouldn't need to have a case for my phone to prevent camera glass shattering through normal daily use.
I'm heading back to the store tomorrow and see if I get a nice rep to help me. I'll let you guys know
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Are you 14?

mettleh3d said:
Are you 14?
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Move along. For all we know OP may have raised an important point. Just because you don't believe him doesn't mean he's at fault. If you don't have anything relevant to contribute then beat it.
OP, keep us posted. I haven't run across anything like that with my device. Do you use the phone to the point where it gets quite hot?
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mettleh3d said:
Are you 14?
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If he is 14, you must be 3

You're not the only one having this problem. One guy on a french forum had exactly the same thing, he couldn't explain it.
Here's his picture of the cracked camera lens :

thegregulator said:
Move along. For all we know OP may have raised an important point. Just because you don't believe him doesn't mean he's at fault. If you don't have anything relevant to contribute then beat it.
OP, keep us posted. I haven't run across anything like that with my device. Do you use the phone to the point where it gets quite hot?
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Thanks! Don't worry though, I'm trying to point out this problem and see if anyone else has similar experiences and we can pinpoint an issue.
I don't game on phones at all, so my device usually stays quite cool. It does warm up a bit after ~10 minutes of screen time but I doubt that could cause any issues.
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You're not the only one having this problem. One guy on a french forum had exactly the same thing, he couldn't explain it.
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That is interesting, thanks for sharing this, I'm looking out to see if anyone else is seeing this.
Just in case this starts happening more, my phone is from batch FA346W
Was raining the whole day today so didn't go to the store, will update once I do

Hm, might have been that the phone got hot enough to make the metal expand faster than the glass....

Not that I doubt you on for your mishap. But knowing Rogers and their ways - my family has been with them since they were still AT&T - you will need hell of a lot of explaining to convince the CSR to make them comply to your exchange request. And online sources won't make much of a statement in their mind. Try play the loyalty card and plead for forgiveness.
As to the picture above, it seems more like an impact hit as the glass seems to fracture in the center of the piece and the cracks don't extend to the edge.

Looks like the phone was abused. Hope you have Insurance because that is definitely not a warranty issue
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Hi OP,
not meaning to be patronising but the glass is more brittle than the casing with lower impact resistance. so a load that might not necessarily damage the casing will more than likely damage the glass. the chances that the damage is simply contained to the glass region though is odd and one would expect there to be at least some signs of wear/ scratches etc even close to this region as in a typical case.
the main thing is how it happened which appears to be the mystery and the exchange will ultimately be based on this. looking at your picture it looks like an impact dead on the centre of the glass from the outside in. hard to be totally certain considering your pic.
i cant think of a viable scenario though other than something along the lines in my first paragraph considering the metal is in perfect condition.
i would just tell them what you have stated.

Hi OP,
I had exactly the same problem. My unit was only a day old with not a single blemish anywhere on the handset besides the crack on the camera. In fact I'm fairy certain it cracked whilst resting on my table which I found to be very odd. Anyway I did manage to get a replacement with very little hassle.
A note to some other users:
In an incident such as this the consumer is entitled to a refund or replacement or a repair depending how old the item is since purchase. There is even further statutory protection specifically under the sale of goods act. This is an expensive (£500) phone and as such it's quality and durability should be commensurate to the price paid. Thus if the OP can establish the crack happened without having dropped the phone or damaging the phone in some other way then he will be entitled to a replacement which seems likely as there are no other scratches or dents anywhere else on the unit.
I am open to listening to others' opinions but should stress that I am a lawyer and therefore am quite knowledgable on matters such as this.

Plastic back slowly getting looser

So I've owned the tablet for over a week now. I like it. However the plastic backing around the microSD slot has slowly become loose and now holding the device feels like cheap plastic. I don't access the port at all, save the one time i put the sd card in.
Anyone else noticing this build issue?

I'd exchange it if it really bothers you. Mine is snug.
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Mine has it too. It was there when I got it. I bought a book case and now I just ignore the creaking. No big deal.

cmunho said:
Mine has it too. It was there when I got it. I bought a book case and now I just ignore the creaking. No big deal.
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You're probably right. When I bought it, bestbuy had no covers. Now I guess more are getting released. did you get the official one or another? I do like the feature of the samsung one that will wakup the device when opening.

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You're probably right. When I bought it, bestbuy had no covers. Now I guess more are getting released. did you get the official one or another? I do like the feature of the samsung one that will wakup the device when opening.
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I got the official one. While it may not be worth $50 I like it well enough and it protects from the "everyday". I've never dropped a tablet so I'm not worried about drops.

thank you
Billyvnilly said:
So I've owned the tablet for over a week now. I like it. However the plastic backing around the microSD slot has slowly become loose and now holding the device feels like cheap plastic. I don't access the port at all, save the one time i put the sd card in.
Anyone else noticing this build issue?
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yes the same is

Billyvnilly said:
When I bought it, bestbuy had no covers. Now I guess more are getting released.
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Most of my local Best Buys had the Samsung cover (white), and a black Belkin one on release date. You can check on their website what is in stock at your local stores. I'm sure more are on the way, too.

redpoint73 said:
Most of my local Best Buys had the Samsung cover (white), and a black Belkin one on release date. You can check on their website what is in stock at your local stores. I'm sure more are on the way, too.
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The Samsung cover, does it stay closed on the screen just by weight, or do the magnets actually keep it closed?

magnet

I have same problem same area since day 1. Went to exchange, all sold oit! Other 2 problems are lightbleed and loose micro usb port.

maybe you provide us with an image to better describe the situation

Well. It is quite plasticy
I have mine over a week now, and haven't felt it loose. You should trade it mate. I like the bezel of the tab but the plastic is really annoying. There are quite a few cases out there though...
Billyvnilly said:
So I've owned the tablet for over a week now. I like it. However the plastic backing around the microSD slot has slowly become loose and now holding the device feels like cheap plastic. I don't access the port at all, save the one time i put the sd card in.
Anyone else noticing this build issue?
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I got mine a few days ago and I must say I quite like it! The only build issue I have is a somewhat remarkable amount of light bleed along the bottom but it doesn't bother me enough to post a pic of it. Best buy only had one case that didn't look very good so I'm still sporting the protective back covering till more cases are in stock. I have high hopes for this!

I am on my 3rd Note trade in. It finally is not loose next to the sdcard. I told them I expect near Perfection if I Pay 400 for an 8 inch tablet!
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ual4720 said:
I am on my 3rd Note trade in. It finally is not loose next to the sdcard. I told them I expect near Perfection if I Pay 400 for an 8 inch tablet!
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It really should be of better build quality for $400. Or it should be at least $100 cheaper. I have the 10.1 and it feels OK, not terribly cheap but not of high quality. I will be putting it up on eBay and going to the 8.0 regardless, due to it being a more pragmatic size for my day to day use. I’m just waiting on the black version.

I had this problem as well. I replaced it at best buy and haven't had a problem with the new one.
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you know it dont matter for they all are the same. The back just pops off very easy. Build quality was just to cheap and to thick for me.

Zeblade said:
you know it dont matter for they all are the same. The back just pops off very easy. Build quality was just to cheap and to thick for me.
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Sure the build quality could be better but I haven't had a single issue with mine since I bought it on release day. From the reports here it seems like maybe some of them are not as solid as others.

Zeblade said:
you know it dont matter for they all are the same. The back just pops off very easy. Build quality was just to cheap and to thick for me.
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Obviously they are not "all the same" since some owners are reporting here that there are no issues with theirs. I think most people are going to use some type of case with this, so IMO it's not too much of an issue. Of course I would like to see better build quality, but I don't think it's that bad. I agree that the plastic back is too shiny/greasy/slippery/nasty, but then again most people are going to put it in a case.
You can get a good sense of the build quality by checking out the display units at Best Buy (if you live in the U.S.). These things are handled by tons of people and kids each day who treat them with little respect because they don't have any personal investment in them. You can always tell which products on display have subpar build quality.
And Really? It was too thick for you? How much thinner do you want it? There won't be any room for the battery if it's thinner, or for the S-Pen silo/dock. I'd rather have a bit longer battery life and a secure place to store my S-pen rather than a thinner tablet. The weight, thickness, and balance in the hand are the best I have experienced in this general size.

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Oooooooo magnets Are bad man. Not so much for regular phones but for phones with stylus and digitizer it will over time cause dead area s on your screen. Don't believe me ?
Head over to the note 2 forums and check out all the problems with cases involving magnet clasps. If got so bad the companies offered to replace your magnet sealing case with one with a simple button in stead. I had one and as soon as I put it on I started having problems with the area around that magnet.
Just stay away from magnetic cases period. Just trust me. Or mess up big time. Once that part of the screen gets borked its borked
That pic is the replacement one with the button they sent me. Also watch out for those magnetic kickstand cases. Big no no too those utilize neodymium!
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bbfoto said:
Obviously they are not "all the same" since some owners are reporting here that there are no issues with theirs. I think most people are going to use some type of case with this, so IMO it's not too much of an issue. Of course I would like to see better build quality, but I don't think it's that bad. I agree that the plastic back is too shiny/greasy/slippery/nasty, but then again most people are going to put it in a case.
You can get a good sense of the build quality by checking out the display units at Best Buy (if you live in the U.S.). These things are handled by tons of people and kids each day who treat them with little respect because they don't have any personal investment in them. You can always tell which products on display have subpar build quality.
And Really? It was too thick for you? How much thinner do you want it? There won't be any room for the battery if it's thinner, or for the S-Pen silo/dock. I'd rather have a bit longer battery life and a secure place to store my S-pen rather than a thinner tablet. The weight, thickness, and balance in the hand are the best I have experienced in this general size.
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Amen thin ness had gone to far. I don't want any thiner devices. Just keep them how they are and make better thinner batteries cpus whatever. Battery tech needs a big overhaul that's our biggest weakness
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[Q] Note 3 + Gear

Who's getting the combo or who has pre-ordered it already? Hell, who thinks its a waste of money?
Personally I've always been an early adopter so I will be pre-ordering sometime this week :good:

SgtGoldy said:
Who's getting the combo or who has pre-ordered it already? Hell, who thinks its a waste of money?
Personally I've always been an early adopter so I will be pre-ordering sometime this week :good:
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I was all about it until I found that it needed to be charged every day, it's a nice idea but needs better battery life. I called an changed to note only, I'm waiting to see what Qualcomm brings with the Toq

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I was all about it until I found that it needed to be charged every day, it's a nice idea but needs better battery life. I called an changed to note only, I'm waiting to see what Qualcomm brings with the Toq
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Yea, the way I look at it is I'll just throw it on the charger at night. Hopefully they don't pull a Droid Razr and get so many complaints about the battery life that they come out with the Razr Maxx a few months later. Pissed me off....

i keep looking for a deal for both either way i will get the watch...think its amazing all them different watch faces is also like buying loadsa watches
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Yea, the way I look at it is I'll just throw it on the charger at night. Hopefully they don't pull a Droid Razr and get so many complaints about the battery life that they come out with the Razr Maxx a few months later. Pissed me off....
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It's not the battery life, by itself, that bothered me, it's what happens when the battery gets old and it can't go even one day... All that said I love the idea and the look, so if people get it and start reporting a solid 24 hrs, I'll pick one up.

I believe its a technology of future came at present just like smart tvs. Not worth for now, also cost is too high to consider.
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stesteste said:
i keep looking for a deal for both either way i will get the watch...think its amazing all them different watch faces is also like buying loadsa watches
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The thing I think I will really like is the workout integration. I'm also excited to see the type of apps that start to come out for it.
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It's not the battery life, by itself, that bothered me, it's what happens when the battery gets old and it can't go even one day... All that said I love the idea and the look, so if people get it and start reporting a solid 24 hrs, I'll pick one up.
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Thats been in the back of my mind as well. My hope is since I am buying the package through Verizon and getting insurance on it, the insurance will apply to the watch as well. Doubtful, but hopeful.

$300 when Glass is right around the corner? No thanks

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$300 when Glass is right around the corner? No thanks
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Really? I feel glass is way too much. It reminds me of those guys that walk around with a Bluetooth in their ear... Except 1000x worse.

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$300 when Glass is right around the corner? No thanks
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You mean Google glass?
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Really? I feel glass is way too much. It reminds me of those guys that walk around with a Bluetooth in their ear... Except 1000x worse.
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Yea, really like the idea and the supposed price would definitely pull me away from a smart watch. Has a lot of features that watches wouldn't be able to make great use of.
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You mean Google glass?
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Yes.

I'm in even though I swore I wouldn't be. Here's my rationalization (to myself):
A lot of early reviewers said you had to touch the display or side button to turn it on. GSMArena confirmed you can activate it by shaking it using the accelerometer.
I'm getting a Note 10.1 2014 which also works with Gear so I can use it as a second phone when I want/need to. My N3 will be a carrier version and the N10.1-14 an unlocked Octa. So when traveling I can use SIMs from other carriers in my tablet if I can’t use them in my phone.
Tech is a hobby. I've wasted as much money on things of more questionable value so the Gear, even though it's pricey, will make me smile.
Samsung's got a lot riding on wearables so I'm hoping the Gear evolves quickly with updates and third party apps. Or it could be replaced by the Gear 2 a couple of months after I buy it. You spin the wheel and take your chances.
I really want to use it as an alternate to a BT headset. If the calling features on it suck I might end up returning it. But I’ll probably be unable to undo my other rationalizations.

Google Glass and Gear are not in the same category. You can where a watch anywhere at just about any time.
There are a lot places where you are restricted from actively using a phone where looking at a watch to get info would be rather benign, work during meetings, school, gyms, at many retail work places etc... Most of those would not allow wearing Google Glass ...
Even if you don't get one of the standout colors (red for example) it is pretty obvious you are wearing them when you have them on.
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Where what kind of watch you are wearing would not get a second glance.
I can see retail locations asking you to remove your Google glasses as well which would not think for a second about the watch you were wearing and would not care if you had your phone in your pocket as well.
At $300, not really interested... but if I found one for in the $100 range, I might pick one up to play with one (Gear that is).

Ready pre ordered the Note 3 but cannot for the watch yet (AT&T)
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krelvinaz said:
Google Glass and Gear are not in the same category. You can where a watch anywhere at just about any time.
There are a lot places where you are restricted from actively using a phone where looking at a watch to get info would be rather benign, work during meetings, school, gyms, at many retail work places etc... Most of those would not allow wearing Google Glass ...
Where what kind of watch you are wearing would not get a second glance.
I can see retail locations asking you to remove your Google glasses as well which would not think for a second about the watch you were wearing and would not care if you had your phone in your pocket as well.
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Really a shame that Glass is considered a threat to privacy, almost solely because it has a camera (it's not like the Gear doesn't have one). In terms of categories, they kinda are the same. They are both wearable accessories that extend the experience of a device. The Gear being much more limited. Being around the same price, I just don't see the Gear being something (most) people would want or would use.
I believe once Glass becomes popular (not necessarily in its first iteration) stores will come to accept it, as they have with phones.

I just can't get down with the google glass in general. It looks so ridiculously stupid on the wearer. If its ever adapted into sunglasses or even prescription glasses I'll consider them. But not until then....
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Not that I have cash to burn nor do I like wasting it, but I get 14 days to decide IF I like GG or not and if not I return it. But after reviewing the features and benefits I think it will offer some value to me. But hey its not like I haven't had 7 phones this year already.

SgtGoldy said:
I just can't get down with the google glass in general. It looks so ridiculously stupid on the wearer. If its ever adapted into sunglasses or even prescription glasses I'll consider them. But not until then....
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They do have sunglasses. They come with lenses. To me, no, the look isn't flattering. But think about ALL the tech going into it, and the amount of work it took to shrink it to that size. It looks beautiful (IMO) from a tech standpoint, exactly as I pictured it would.
Also, that patent that Google just made for Glass on a pair of glasses.
http://www.geek.com/android/new-google-patent-may-give-a-sneak-peak-at-glass-2-0-1570847/

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They do have sunglasses. They come with lenses. To me, no, the look isn't flattering. But think about ALL the tech going into it, and the amount of work it took to shrink it to that size. It looks beautiful (IMO) from a tech standpoint, exactly as I pictured it would.
Also, that patent that Google just made for Glass on a pair of glasses.
http://www.geek.com/android/new-google-patent-may-give-a-sneak-peak-at-glass-2-0-1570847/
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I can see what your saying as far as how it looks from a tech stand point. I just prefer something less... intrusive. Thats the reason I love the gear. It just seems like it fits. Nothing awkwardly standing out or shouting to the world "look at me".

Yes for the phone, no way for the watch, it is just a gimmick imho.