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Worthless predictions

I know we're all in that 7-day window with G1 data and all. And I know that what t-mobile *does* is usually far less strict than what they *say* when it comes to requirements for plans and such.
I'd like to know how T-Mobile plan to handle no-contract purchases of the G1 when it comes to data plans.
But I predict within the next week or two, that T-Mobile will switch all G1 account holders to the G1 data plan (if they haven't already) and wipe out all the other data and text plans for the line. With such a huge subsidy involved, they'd be stark-raving mad not to.
And I also predict a flurry of *****-posts like:
They changed my plan without telling me. This is BS man!
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You mean I can't use the $5.99 proxy hack anymore? EFF t-mobile. I'm going to MetroPCS!
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And all I have to say (in advance) is: YOU WERE WARNED...and if you re-upped a contract, you AGREED to it.

well when you buy the phone it tates that your plan will be switched to a G1 plan, so whoever is crying, stop it, cause i was told and if i remember correctly it stated that the plan would be changed to a g1 plan on the preorder screens with info and stuff

Need to sticky this or something like it.

you can use your phone with older simcard (not 3g) and can use 5.99 plan in this phone, the only problem is that where you take the phone, if take with tmobil , have to pay 25 $ more for data plan and 3g but if you take that in ebay or other place , dont have to pay nothing extra.

satru said:
you can use your phone with older simcard (not 3g) and can use 5.99 plan in this phone, the only problem is that where you take the phone, if take with tmobil , have to pay 25 $ more for data plan and 3g but if you take that in ebay or other place , dont have to pay nothing extra.
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LOL.
T-Mobile DOES NOT have seperate sim cards that support 3g and some that don't.
Well I could be wrong, but you'd have to have a very very very very very very old sim card.
I'm using a 4-5 year old simcard and 3g works just fine with it.

I was kinda mad to learn that they wiped all my services... I understand the texting and data... but they took off my mobile to mobile and I can't add it back online... for now I am not going to worry but will bring it up if I notice an issue on the bill.

tmobile has plans to offer free mobile to mobile and some other services http://forums.tmonews.com/index.php?topic=4044.0

nxt said:
LOL.
T-Mobile DOES NOT have seperate sim cards that support 3g and some that don't.
Well I could be wrong, but you'd have to have a very very very very very very old sim card.
I'm using a 4-5 year old simcard and 3g works just fine with it.
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Yeah, my SIM card is 8 years old.

sorry i said bad, i refer to the simcard that you have in the phone you were using. because the g1 coming with a new sim.
nxt said:
LOL.
T-Mobile DOES NOT have seperate sim cards that support 3g and some that don't.
Well I could be wrong, but you'd have to have a very very very very very very old sim card.
I'm using a 4-5 year old simcard and 3g works just fine with it.
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satru said:
sorry i said bad, i refer to the simcard that you have in the phone you were using. because the g1 coming with a new sim.
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I didnt get a new sim card.
i'm using my old (original) sim.
Maybe new customers get a new sim card.

Mikey1022 said:
I didnt get a new sim card.
i'm using my old (original) sim.
Maybe new customers get a new sim card.
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I didn't get a new sim card, either.
The only time I've gotten a new sim card was when I moved from Michigan to Illinois and wanted an Illinois phone number. Apparently (or at least at the time) an Illinois number needed an Illinois SIM, and I had to go to a store to pick it up, because T-Mo said they don't have extra SIMs lying around to ship out.

punkzanyj said:
I didn't get a new sim card, either.
The only time I've gotten a new sim card was when I moved from Michigan to Illinois and wanted an Illinois phone number. Apparently (or at least at the time) an Illinois number needed an Illinois SIM, and I had to go to a store to pick it up, because T-Mo said they don't have extra SIMs lying around to ship out.
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Only new customers will get a SIM, there is no need for existing customers to receive a new SIM card. T-Mobile made changes on the back end to allow for existing SIMs to connect on 3g.

I received a sim in both G1 packages... the one to my house and the one at the store.

yes i received a new sim too.
neoobs said:
I received a sim in both G1 packages... the one to my house and the one at the store.
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punkzanyj said:
I didn't get a new sim card, either.
The only time I've gotten a new sim card was when I moved from Michigan to Illinois and wanted an Illinois phone number. Apparently (or at least at the time) an Illinois number needed an Illinois SIM, and I had to go to a store to pick it up, because T-Mo said they don't have extra SIMs lying around to ship out.
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You dont get a new one if you are already with them but u could ask for one and they should give you a new one if you like as i was told by a tombile rep at the retail store.

Can I use an ATT phone on net10

Never heard of Net10 til today. It's new in my area. Can I use an att Lumia 900 on it unlocked? It'd be a savior on the bill. What are your thoughts on net10 service?
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From what I understand, Net10 phones only work with a sim card specific to that device. Swapping the sim cards wouldn't work. Straight talk is always an option since it uses GSM. It runs on t-mobiles network.
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My st sum runs on att
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KayxGee1 said:
From what I understand, Net10 phones only work with a sim card specific to that device. Swapping the sim cards wouldn't work. Straight talk is always an option since it uses GSM. It runs on t-mobiles network.
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Isn't it the phone that's locked? Meaning bringing in an att sim would work?

ST uses either AT&T or T-mobiles network i think it depends which you choose to use

z33dev33l said:
Isn't it the phone that's locked? Meaning bringing in an att sim would work?
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I don't think so. From what I was reading, unlocking it wouldn't matter. The sim card and the phone it was with other work together. You can't use an AT&T sim card in an Net10 phone or a Net10 sim card in an AT&T phone
That was what I got from a little researching. I could be wrong.
And ST is always an option as well. They have good plans and use GSM so swapping sim cards wouldn't be an issue.
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I heard st starts warning you after 100 Mb in a day. Is that true?

KayxGee1 said:
I don't think so. From what I was reading, unlocking it wouldn't matter. The sim card and the phone it was with other work together. You can't use an AT&T sim card in an Net10 phone or a Net10 sim card in an AT&T phone
That was what I got from a little researching. I could be wrong.
And ST is always an option as well. They have good plans and use GSM so swapping sim cards wouldn't be an issue.
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I'm using the Galaxy Note with a NET10 sim.
Things you should be aware of:
1. Web access doesnt work if you are roaming
2. YOu can use a AT&T locked phone (as mine is locked)
Unlimited plan is really limited to your area code. ONce you cross the line you don't get to use data.
So you will be screw on your travels or work outside your area.
I just signed up. But wish I hadn't.

Ouroboross said:
I'm using the Galaxy Note with a NET10 sim.
Things you should be aware of:
1. Web access doesnt work if you are roaming
2. YOu can use a AT&T locked phone (as mine is locked)
Unlimited plan is really limited to your area code. ONce you cross the line you don't get to use data.
So you will be screw on your travels or work outside your area.
I just signed up. But wish I hadn't.
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So the NET10 rep couldn't solve my web access problem on the Note BUT I've it working w/O their help.
IT works outside my area code and I get average 3G speed.
So you AT&T android phone doesn't have to be unlocked to be able to use NET10.

will you please tell us just how you managed to do this??
please post your settings....even your new APN settings if you had to make new..
thanks
.... don't leave us hanging..
thanks again

NET10 new plan
this my first post but i hope it help,
NET10 had just came up with there unlimited plan of $50 (talk,text and date (3G)) or $65 with all that + international calling to almost 50 countries, and they are saying on the SIM card kit, to bring your GSM unlocked or compatible phone , Iphone, Android, Smart phone.
and it should work, pop the sim in and follow the instructions.
I'm actually thinking seriously to switch to them after buying a AT&T HTC Vivid, thinking i'll be able to use with t-mobile 4G, to find the LTE Curse is on my Vivid.
i talked to a dealer of NET10 and he told me the NET10 uses both networks, and you are guaranteed to get 3G speed on any phone capable of having 3G speed.
this text is copied from NET10sim web page
"Use virtually any compatible or unlocked GSM phone with our NET10 SIM to get service on the best nationwide networks."
i got the sim, but it was 2 days after I paid for my t-mo for this month, I'll post my experience once I try it on my LTE cursed Vivid phone, and check the 3G service.
Hope this helped. :fingers-crossed:

If the phone doesnt get 1700/2100 for 3g then you will have to wait for the refarm.
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Net10 vs. At&t
volcandroid said:
this my first post but i hope it help,
NET10 had just came up with there unlimited plan of $50 (talk,text and date (3G)) or $65 with all that + international calling to almost 50 countries, and they are saying on the SIM card kit, to bring your GSM unlocked or compatible phone , Iphone, Android, Smart phone.
and it should work, pop the sim in and follow the instructions.
I'm actually thinking seriously to switch to them after buying a AT&T HTC Vivid, thinking i'll be able to use with t-mobile 4G, to find the LTE Curse is on my Vivid.
i talked to a dealer of NET10 and he told me the NET10 uses both networks, and you are guaranteed to get 3G speed on any phone capable of having 3G speed.
this text is copied from NET10sim web page
"Use virtually any compatible or unlocked GSM phone with our NET10 SIM to get service on the best nationwide networks."
i got the sim, but it was 2 days after I paid for my t-mo for this month, I'll post my experience once I try it on my LTE cursed Vivid phone, and check the 3G service.
Hope this helped. :fingers-crossed:
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So what happened???? I'm really considering switching to Net10 over At&t. It would save me about $30 a month, and give all my phone lines unlimited data not just mine.

I am using my NET10 micro-sim card (for AT&T) as part of their Bring Your Own Phone (BYOP) sim card package in my new AT&T-branded Sony Xperia Ion (LT28at) that has been unlocked to carrier. I'm in a small area in western South Dakota that has AT&T coverage, and I am getting 4g speeds on the cellular service from my home. The reception is great, and you do get edge (2g) and 3g data while traveling outside your area, just not the highest speeds. I travel to Seattle frequently for business and can verify this. With prepaid monthly it is about $47.50 (with taxes) per month. HUGELY worth it after being 'chained' to Verizon for years and years!

im on a s4 non prepaid at&t phone using net 10 on the at&t network. no problems and i live in wautoma wisc.

Nexus 4 and Straight Talk

I am planning on Straight Talk $45 unlimited 1mo plan.
https://www.straighttalk.com/secure/ServicePlans
From some internet research it looks like the best bet is to get the t-mobile compatible sim (since service prbs are with at&t compatible sim).
The problem is, t-mobile compatible sim is only full-sized - not for nexus 4 micro sim. Contracted their customer service, they confirmed no t-mobile compatible microsim.
Now I have two options:
1. get the at&t compatible microsim
2. get t-mobile full sized sim and then use sim cutter.
Which way to go?

siftekhar said:
I am planning on Straight Talk $45 unlimited 1mo plan.
https://www.straighttalk.com/secure/ServicePlans
From some internet research it looks like the best bet is to get the t-mobile compatible sim (since service prbs are with at&t compatible sim).
The problem is, t-mobile compatible sim is only full-sized - not for nexus 4 micro sim. Contracted their customer service, they confirmed no t-mobile compatible microsim.
Now I have two options:
1. get the at&t compatible microsim
2. get t-mobile full sized sim and then use sim cutter.
Which way to go?
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If you want T-Mobile I'm sure a T-Mobile store would cut the sim for you.

spencer88 said:
If you want T-Mobile I'm sure a T-Mobile store would cut the sim for you.
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I am not going to stay with t-mobile, I am talking about straighttalk t-mobile compatible sim.
http://www.straighttalk.com/ShopSims

Depends
It all depends on what you rather have. I personally will be going to Straight Talk too, but with the ATT sim.
ATT will offer better coverage (Also better wall penetration) in most parts of the USA, while T-mobile lacks in the coverage department they have great speeds in areas where they provide HSPA+. But as soon as you leave those areas if you travel a lot then you will be on EDGE a lot more.
I have seen people on the ATT Straight Talk getting 3mbs/1mbs to 7mbs/3mbs and those on T-mobile getting 7mbs/3mbs to above 10mbs/4mbs.
But like I said it really depends on what you want, I am leaving sprint so regardless of who I chose it would be a lot better.
If you go with T-mobile just cut the SIM.

I have straight talk and had tmobile b4. Where i live they both have strong signal get bout same speeds. I think tmobile will only help in bigger markets where they have the 42mbps towers not everywhere i tried to check the coverage where the 42 spots our cant really figure it out i live in a medium size market i dont get the 42 speeds here anyway so just something to think about.

siftekhar said:
Now I have two options:
1. get the at&t compatible microsim
2. get t-mobile full sized sim and then use sim cutter.
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You basically spelled it out right there. Which network do you want to use ATT or TMo. If ATT, pick option 1. If TMo, pick 2.
ATT has wider coverage, so you can go to rural areas and still get decent signal. TMo usually craps out when you leave the city.
TMo has better speeds in the city, since most cities' ATT networks are congested compared to TMo (more users). Add to that, since Straight Talk is an MVNO, it gets lower priority at cell towers compared to ATT postpaid and ATT prepaid customers. So you can stand beside someone with an ATT SIM and he has a signal, while your ST SIM gets nothing.
If you have the money to spare to buy 2 SIMs, try the ATT microSIMs first. If you're not satisfied, then get the TMo SI and cut it down. If you have the extra $60 to spare, get them both at the same time, buy a month's service for both, and so a side-by-side comparison.

siftekhar said:
I am planning on Straight Talk $45 unlimited 1mo plan.
https://www.straighttalk.com/secure/ServicePlans
From some internet research it looks like the best bet is to get the t-mobile compatible sim (since service prbs are with at&t compatible sim).
The problem is, t-mobile compatible sim is only full-sized - not for nexus 4 micro sim. Contracted their customer service, they confirmed no t-mobile compatible microsim.
Now I have two options:
1. get the at&t compatible microsim
2. get t-mobile full sized sim and then use sim cutter.
Which way to go?
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also, do you use google voice for voicemail? I believe T-Mobile MVNO's don't allow call forwarding (which is what Google Voice does for voicemail). I could be wrong though, so make sure you do your search on that. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1890301
As soon as my contract (and my wife's) is up on AT&T in March, we are going to get the Straight Talk sim for AT&T...mainly because of the reasons other people have mentioned in this thread... plus, when I had the G Nexus, I got a T-Mobile prepaid sim to test it out and T-Mobile HSPA+ was slower here than AT&T.... but go with the coverage that works for you.

For some reason, I'm experiencing very slow data speeds with straight talk ( att Sim) with my nexus 4. Called them to reset my data settings but still no good.

I cut my straight talk/tmobile sim to work in my nexus 4. i refused to use att side of straight talk. so far everything is good no complaints :good:

barondebxl said:
For some reason, I'm experiencing very slow data speeds with straight talk ( att Sim) with my nexus 4. Called them to reset my data settings but still no good.
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What are your APN settings? Delete the first proxy, test again. I had a to reset data, then set the phone in airplane mode and back and retested.

I have T-Mobile, have always loved it. The reception in my office had always been on the line, but most of the time, with all my other phones, I've been able to get 3/4g most of the time.
With the n4, I NEVER get 3/4g in my office. Quite frustrating. Thinking about getting st att based on most replies here. Sucks I need to change based on the phone
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You can always use a micro SIM cutter

AT&T SIM
Anyone getting better than 6 mbps on StraighTalk? If so, could you please post settings?

mjpado said:
Anyone getting better than 6 mbps on StraighTalk? If so, could you please post settings?
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I get that and also want to know. I realize we can't use lte apn but i expect faster for h+
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mjpado said:
Anyone getting better than 6 mbps on StraighTalk? If so, could you please post settings?
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are you looking for att settings or tmobile settings for straight talk?

93sleeper said:
are you looking for att settings or tmobile settings for straight talk?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1552324&stc=1&d=1355159626
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1552325&stc=1&d=1355159626
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1552326&stc=1&d=1355159626
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1552327&stc=1&d=1355159626

I've been seriously considering the N4 with st8 talk but I've been a little hesitant because I want it to work everywhere I go i.e. work, home, parents house. if anyone has had the Verizon GNex could you respond with whether it works better or not? What would be the pro/con list? Everyone has opinions, I know, but please only from ppl who have the N4.

Folks, 6Mbps on AT&T's HSPA+ might be as good as you're going to get.

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1552324&stc=1&d=1355159626
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are these tmo setting or att&t?

Sparta507 said:
are these tmo setting or att&t?
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Looks like t-mobile to me.

Switching from T-Mobile MyTouch 4G

Once I get my Nexus 4, is there anything I have to do to switch from a MyTouch 4G aside from cutting the SIM down to size?
Do I have to call T-Mobile or anything?
I'm on a FlexPay no-contract plan.
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Paul22000 said:
Once I get my Nexus 4, is there anything I have to do to switch from a MyTouch 4G aside from cutting the SIM down to size?
Do I have to call T-Mobile or anything?
I'm on a FlexPay no-contract plan.
Thanks
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Just cut the SIM down to size and you should be good.

Paul22000 said:
Once I get my Nexus 4, is there anything I have to do to switch from a MyTouch 4G aside from cutting the SIM down to size?
Do I have to call T-Mobile or anything?
I'm on a FlexPay no-contract plan.
Thanks
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That should do it, you shouldn't have to call tmobile. I'm on a post paid no-contract plan with tmobile and I had to get a new sim card because the one I had was non-4G and unable to be cut down (the gold contacts on the card were bigger than an entire micro-sim). The sim new card was associated with my phone number only, not the IMEI or anything like that.

I would make sure you have the phone backed up to Google servers. I think you the MT4G allowed you to store contacts to sim card or google...you'll want to make sure that is all on google. Save you a headache later when you can't stick the cut down sim into the mt4g anymore to get info off of it.

irishrally said:
I had to get a new sim card because the one I had was non-4G and unable to be cut down (the gold contacts on the card were bigger than an entire micro-sim).
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How do you know if your SIM is non-4G? Is there a technical term for it so I can google an image to see which type I have?

[Q] VZW SIM in Nexus 4 abroad

Has anyone ever used an unlocked GSM phone outside the U.S. with a Verizon LTE SIM card? VZW has an OK short-term overseas roaming plan that TMO doesn't, and I'd just as soon put the VZW card into my Nexus 4 while overseas. (The N4 recognized the SIM when I tried it in the U.S.) I could (and have) gone the prepaid SIM route, but I'm wondering if this is an option.

fredz024 said:
Has anyone ever used an unlocked GSM phone outside the U.S. with a Verizon LTE SIM card? VZW has an OK short-term overseas roaming plan that TMO doesn't, and I'd just as soon put the VZW card into my Nexus 4 while overseas. (The N4 recognized the SIM when I tried it in the U.S.) I could (and have) gone the prepaid SIM route, but I'm wondering if this is an option.
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It'll be 10x cheaper and easier to get a local carrier's sim card in whatever country you're going to. Verizon's plan is wayyyy too expensive in my opinion. When I went to the UK, I put in a Orange Mobile sim card and put 10 pounds on my account. I got 500 free texts, a few hundred minutes + a certain amount of "free international" calling, and 500MB of 3G data.

Rarscaryfrosty said:
It'll be 10x cheaper and easier to get a local carrier's sim card in whatever country you're going to. Verizon's plan is wayyyy too expensive in my opinion. When I went to the UK, I put in a Orange Mobile sim card and put 10 pounds on my account. I got 500 free texts, a few hundred minutes + a certain amount of "free international" calling, and 500MB of 3G data.
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Yeah, I get that. I guess the question was really what *can* I do, as opposed to what *should* I do. If I stuck to what I should do I wouldn't have so many phones lying around.....