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The advantage of Nexus S - think about it before you complain

I understand that after spending so much money on a phone (many of us probably got it at the unlocked, no contract price - I did) it is easy to complain about problems a phone may have. However, no phone is ever perfect; Nexus S is not an exception to the rule: It has its fair share of issues.
I just wanted to create this thread to remind people the real advantage of the Nexus S and probably one of the biggest reasons why people are getting it. Nexus S may have its problems - like any other phone - but before you decide to moan about how terrible of a phone this is, how you are disappointed, how Google/Samsung cut corners in hardware, etc. keep in mind why you (probably) got it in the first place: Vanilla Android and fast updates. With new versions of Android bring new goodies, getting fast updates often beats out hardware. The original Nexus is testament to this; almost a year old and it still runs with the latest and greatest.
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darkagent said:
i understand that after spending so much money on a phone (many of us probably got it at the unlocked, no contract price - i did) it is easy to complain about problems a phone may have. However, no phone is ever perfect; nexus s is not an exception to the rule: It has its fair share of issues.
I just wanted to create this thread to remind people the real advantage of the nexus s and probably one of the biggest reasons why people are getting it. Nexus s may have its problems - like any other phone - but before you decide to moan about how terrible of a phone this is, how you are disappointed, how google/samsung cut corners in hardware, etc. Keep in mind why you (probably) got it in the first place: Vanilla android and fast updates. With new versions of android bring new goodies, getting fast updates often beats out hardware. The original nexus is testament to this; almost a year old and it still runs with the latest and greatest.
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arg!!!! Ay! Matte ay!!!!

Too bad the nexus one is getting outdated fast, mainly because it has dual touch and not multi. Google maps 5.0 is a good example of the limitations. I hope this won't happen to the nexus/galaxy s after 1 year.

It will, but then i have a new phone to play with.

androidsjonnie said:
Too bad the nexus one is getting outdated fast, mainly because it has dual touch and not multi. Google maps 5.0 is a good example of the limitations. I hope this won't happen to the nexus/galaxy s after 1 year.
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The key is getting outdated one year later. Any smartphone that can still run with the newer models a year later is doing something right.
Of course, it is worth mentioning the Nexus One was released when 1 Ghz processors were just getting started. Nexus S was released with a 1 Ghz right at the eve of dual-cores...

I am SO with you!! The Nexus one is a year old and I STILL use it as my main phone. With Googles backing the phone will always have updates first which means we will have all the cool things to show off and use as others wait for their carriers/manufactures to push an update which can take at LEAST 8 months or longer (cough cough Galaxy S) It's hardware isn't anything to be super duper about but still.. what other phone is going to hit these quadrant scores and be this snappy right out of the box all while having Googles full support? The only thing keeping me away from me using this as my primary line is the lack of any sort of tri-color trackpad\led... My N1 has spoiled me lol

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The key is getting outdated one year later. Any smartphone that can still run with the newer models a year later is doing something right.
Of course, it is worth mentioning the Nexus One was released when 1 Ghz processors were just getting started. Nexus S was released with a 1 Ghz right at the eve of dual-cores...
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Lol what, the Tegra2? It'll be a while before snapdragon dual core and the Orion come out. Tegra2 has a worse GPU than the Hummingbird.
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The Greatest Threat = Microsoft

I was reading an article on Android Police the other day entitled Why Android's Greatest Threat Isn't Apple - It's Microsoft.
I think the article has a lot of merit - the author could quite well be spot on.
I don't know about anyone else but I've been so focused on the Google and Apple recently that I didn't even stop to think about where Microsoft has been lately and what they've been up to.
Everyday there is something in the news about Google and/or Apple - their new products, services, another lawsuit or otherwise - there is always something. As for Microsoft, in comparison there is virtually nothing - or at least nothing of great interest.
All of sudden, out of no where, Microsoft announces the release of Surface. A day or two later, Windows Phone 8.
Surface, from what I've seen and read about it so far looks quite promising. Whether it's an iPad killer, or even whether it will make any dint at all in the tablet market is yet to be seen but in any case, I think it stands a good chance.
Windows Phone 8 is what's really grabbing my attention. The more I read about it the more intrigued I am to actually get my hands on one and test it out.
I've been a die hand Android/Google fan for a few years now and absolutely love Google's products and services - I never thought I would be dragged from them. There is something about Windows Phone 8, and even Microsoft in general recently that is causing me to pay great attention to what they are up to.
Do you think that Microsoft is a force to be reckoned with? If they play the game correctly, do you think we could see Microsoft taking on Apple and Google with brute force?
Obviously Microsoft is going to have to work damn hard to put even a dint in the tablet and smart phone market at the moment but if executed correctly, I think they have real potential to seriously cause some damage and shake up the market to a great extent.
I'm just throwing a few random thoughts and ideas out there. I could be way off and the release of Surface and Windows Phone 8 wont make one bit of difference at all. Time will tell I guess.
Your thoughts?

They're screwing over everyone who recently bought into them, namely the Lumia 900 crowd. I can't believe they're "starting over" just like after they killed Windows Mobile. The public outrage would be enormous if Android did such a thing. Announcing a new software version and then saying that ZERO previous devices, even very recent ones, would get the update is insane. MS shoots themselves in the foot once again, right after things started to look promising. They just can't do anything right in the mobile market.
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They're screwing over everyone who recently bought into them, namely the Lumia 900 crowd. I can't believe they're "starting over" just like after they killed Windows Mobile. The public outrage would be enormous if Android did such a thing. Announcing a new software version and then saying that ZERO previous devices, even very recent ones, would get the update is insane. MS shoots themselves in the foot once again, right after things started to look promising. They just can't do anything right in the mobile market.
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I totally agree with this. As a show of good faith, MS should allow early adopters to trade phones when the new ones come out. Something like $100 credit for the Lumia 710, $200 for the 800, $300 for the 900 etc.
But they would never do that.

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They're screwing over everyone who recently bought into them, namely the Lumia 900 crowd. I can't believe they're "starting over" just like after they killed Windows Mobile. The public outrage would be enormous if Android did such a thing. Announcing a new software version and then saying that ZERO previous devices, even very recent ones, would get the update is insane. MS shoots themselves in the foot once again, right after things started to look promising. They just can't do anything right in the mobile market.
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The only thing I don't agree is with the android part. Ics is on so few phones. Mostly only new ones are getting (especially moto phones). Unofficially yeah a lot of android phones have gotten Ics but officially not much.
I'm waiting for an mobile os as good as a desktop/laptop os. The hardware is better then my first real computer (I mean my windows me my first computer was runing windows 3.1 on a 486).
I would love to see that but for now I can only dream.
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I think Microsft is in full panic mode. The Iphone/Ipad and Android devices have shown the average consumer that they dont need Windows any more. Microsoft is scrambling to unify their interface so that they can hang on to curent customers. WP7/7.5 was a stopgap mesure to introduce the UI but fill the void while they readied Windows 8. unfourtunatly it might already be too late as the consumer market moves to Android and IOS and Windows 7 is looking like its going to be XP's second comming. (corporate use which is just starting to adopt win 7 will hang on to it for the next 15 years like XP) Windows 8 will just kinda pop in and out like Vista did. wich is good for the consumer becaus finally after 20 years of windows being the only game in town we will have choice. the big thing i think Microsoft missed and Google is just getting is the the secret to IOS's sccess was the content not the device itself. Apple got it all going in the 2003 with Itunes music store.

I used to be a WM man.....
....Until they stopped supporting it, then I went over to Android and never looked back, I would never trust Microsoft again, I can see the same thing happening again if they deem there is not enough profit in it for them.

densetsu86 said:
The only thing I don't agree is with the android part. Ics is on so few phones. Mostly only new ones are getting (especially moto phones). Unofficially yeah a lot of android phones have gotten Ics but officially not much.
I'm waiting for an mobile os as good as a desktop/laptop os. The hardware is better then my first real computer (I mean my windows me my first computer was runing windows 3.1 on a 486).
I would love to see that but for now I can only dream.
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The point I was emphasizing was that MS abandoned literally every previous phone. The Lumia was a flagship that just came out a few months ago. Thats like the HTC One X not getting a new software update if it were to come the next few months. Anyone who recently signed a contract for a WP7 I feel sincerely sorry for them.
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I agree that Microsoft has made some mistakes, especially with the upgrade fiasco because that was one of the claimed benefits to Microsoft, that like apple Microsoft controlled the update process and surely if you bought a phone you would see the newest update.
Although that doesn't bother me so much as I haven't gotten a wp7 device to get shafted. Wp8 does look intriguing. Especially the the amount that the mobile and pc operating share code. Hell directX support would make games awesome. However, one thing that after going from windows mobile and android that I don't see myself doing without, is the possibility to side load and use a file explorer. Without that I don't see myself using a smart phone is without that. It's just less pc like to me. If that was possible, Wp8 would look very promising. But heres to Microsoft riding Apple's coattails.
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I have been intrigued by windows phone 7 for a while now but I held back from getting one for one reason...windows 8 or whatever they were gonna call it. Basically I wanted to sit back and see how they were gonna further develop the platform to real big maturity.
The os itself looks really promising and smooth and has a lot of potential. I love the idea of live tiles and the metro UI. I'm quite sure I will be getting a windows 8 device and it won't be a PC first off either! Perhaps a tablet of smartphone.
I think windows is indeed perhaps the biggest threat to android in the long term. Unless apple really bring some innovation and make some changes to that plain boring iOS user interface. But yes windows phone 8 looks awesome and has loads and loads of potential.
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I feel that android and iOS in the phone industry will always be stable, people don't need to photoshop something or do something that requires a laptop or desktop on their cellphones. I do however believe android's and iOS's greatest threats is windows 8 on tablets whether its arm based or x86/x64 based just because its a better purchase, you have a laptop when you need it and a tablet when your on the go, that's one of the reasons why I replaced my laptop with the acer w500 tablet

PC for gaming : Windows
PC for general : Linux Mint
Tablet : iPad and Touchpad running CM9
Phone : S2 so Android with plenty of ROM options.
Would I switch to a Windows 8 phone? No because Microsoft are now so far behind Google and Apple it hurts.
Windows? Windied more like.
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slapshot30 said:
They're screwing over everyone who recently bought into them, namely the Lumia 900 crowd. I can't believe they're "starting over" just like after they killed Windows Mobile. The public outrage would be enormous if Android did such a thing. Announcing a new software version and then saying that ZERO previous devices, even very recent ones, would get the update is insane. MS shoots themselves in the foot once again, right after things started to look promising. They just can't do anything right in the mobile market.
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I completely agree. I hate this kind of planned obsolescence. I used to think Apple was the worst, with their soldered-in CPUs, lack of support for standard storage expansion like MicroSD, batteries that can't be user replaced, and cutting features from major iOS updates to older iPhones for no technical reason. However, Microsoft is really taking the cake here. Not only is it bad for consumers, but it's bad for the environment. We're already a society that generates a ridiculous amount of tech waste, and Microsoft isn't helping. In comparison, Apple is looking pretty good, because when iOS6 comes out, it'll run on the year old iPhone 4S, 2-year old iPhone 4, and 3-year old iPhone 3GS which will be 4-generations behind by that point.
When it comes to planned obsolescence, it looks like Microsoft now takes top honors for being the worst. I used to be pro-Microsoft, but now I hope they miss every sales benchmark.

mckeowngoo said:
PC for gaming : Windows
PC for general : Linux Mint
Tablet : iPad and Touchpad running CM9
Phone : S2 so Android with plenty of ROM options.
Would I switch to a Windows 8 phone? No because Microsoft are now so far behind Google and Apple it hurts.
Windows? Windied more like.
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Behind by what metric? Sales? Sure. Technologically? After yesterday I really don't think that's the case. I am not sold on the entire interface and metro design ideas, but you can see the phones are pretty capable. If anyone is behind to me, it seems like Apple is woefully behind...
GnatGoSplat said:
I completely agree. I hate this kind of planned obsolescence. I used to think Apple was the worst, with their soldered-in CPUs, lack of support for standard storage expansion like MicroSD, batteries that can't be user replaced, and cutting features from major iOS updates to older iPhones for no technical reason. However, Microsoft is really taking the cake here. Not only is it bad for consumers, but it's bad for the environment. We're already a society that generates a ridiculous amount of tech waste, and Microsoft isn't helping. In comparison, Apple is looking pretty good, because when iOS6 comes out, it'll run on the year old iPhone 4S, 2-year old iPhone 4, and 3-year old iPhone 3GS which will be 4-generations behind by that point.
When it comes to planned obsolescence, it looks like Microsoft now takes top honors for being the worst. I used to be pro-Microsoft, but now I hope they miss every sales benchmark.
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Go look at the feature list for all those older phones with iOS 6 installed. For the most part, it's an upgrade in name only. Planned obsolescence? I am running the iOS 6 beta right now on a 4S and it is quite obvious the next iPhone will have a taller screen. So many interface elements now feel cramped and the "window" into the OS now seems much too small. This includes the design for the App Store, the new Maps, etc. It actually seems to me, quite clearly, that the ONLY "very good" iOS 6 experience will be occurring on the new iPhone.
The bottom line is that the upgrade experience on all of these mobile devices is incredibly poor. No one really does it right. At this point they should be as open as PCs. You buy a phone, you install whatever OS or software you want. The idea that carriers, and to a lesser extent OEMs, have any say on this over the user is ludicrous.

Jared.M said:
Go look at the feature list for all those older phones with iOS 6 installed. For the most part, it's an upgrade in name only. Planned obsolescence? I am running the iOS 6 beta right now on a 4S and it is quite obvious the next iPhone will have a taller screen. So many interface elements now feel cramped and the "window" into the OS now seems much too small. This includes the design for the App Store, the new Maps, etc. It actually seems to me, quite clearly, that the ONLY "very good" iOS 6 experience will be occurring on the new iPhone.
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I haven't actually tried iOS 6 so I can't comment on the user experience, but it'll be more than just an upgrade in name. Since the core framework and kernel are being updated as well, it will run apps that are specifically compiled for iOS 6. It may not be the best user experience, but at least it won't leave people with old devices completely unable to run newer apps.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not praising Apple, but they are certainly looking better than Microsoft in how they treat their existing mobile users. It's completely the opposite of their philosophy with their desktop OS. Windows 7 was supposed to have lower system requirements than Vista so it could run well on older, existing hardware.

GnatGoSplat said:
I haven't actually tried iOS 6 so I can't comment on the user experience, but it'll be more than just an upgrade in name. Since the core framework and kernel are being updated as well, it will run apps that are specifically compiled for iOS 6. It may not be the best user experience, but at least it won't leave people with old devices completely unable to run newer apps.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not praising Apple, but they are certainly looking better than Microsoft in how they treat their existing mobile users. It's completely the opposite of their philosophy with their desktop OS. Windows 7 was supposed to have lower system requirements than Vista so it could run well on older, existing hardware.
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after owning an iphone 3gs I can say that it is a name upgrade only, when my device was upgraded to ios 4 not only was it slow, but it was crashing when I was trying to run apps that were designed for ios 4 and tbh id rather have not been upgraded than have been upgraded to software that was crashing my phone and making it almost impossible to use
sure you get an upgrade but tbh if a phone cant handle a newer os wouldn't it be better to have a good user experience on an earlier version and miss out on some of the new things than it is to have one like I described above
now I'm not defending Microsoft for dumping windows phone 7 for what ever the hell is next but apple is just as bad for breaking peoples phones so they HAVE to buy new ones because of how unusable their phones become

Is this the right place for the 7.8 debate? There's loads of threads for that already.
On topic, I think Microsoft are a threat to everyone right now. Apps on WP8 are potentially far more powerful than those on iOS or Android. The stuff they were talking about in that presentation is pretty stunning, with some amazing possibilities.

satchef1 said:
Is this the right place for the 7.8 debate? There's loads of threads for that already.
On topic, I think Microsoft are a threat to everyone right now. Apps on WP8 are potentially far more powerful than those on iOS or Android. The stuff they were talking about in that presentation is pretty stunning, with some amazing possibilities.
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They may be more powerful but the development cost and end price will be higher to recoup the investment from a smaller install base.
I found the lacks of apps and high price of apps the downside of my win 7 phone.
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Microsoft is a huge threat to everyone now. At first Microsoft products didn't communicate good with each other, now you're looking at a real ecosystem. App parity on all of your devices. Same application on the PC phone and tablet. No one else can provide that right now.
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fo.manush said:
They may be more powerful but the development cost and end price will be higher to recoup the investment from a smaller install base.
I found the lacks of apps and high price of apps the downside of my win 7 phone.
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like yourself I also found windows phone 7 to be tasteless for the same reason, but you have to remember this is windows 8, a computer os, not a phone one, you can run every app you can from your desktop on x86 tablets and hybrids
the arm version I'm a bit skeptical about but there is going to be a way to emulate x86/x64 apps on the arm tablets, whether its official or through a company like VMware.
plus its not just about the apps but its also the games that improve as well, you can play full pc games on windows 8 along side with those mini games like angry birds and fruit ninja. not very many tablets out there that can play just cause 2 or call of duty, plus with xbox live integrated it will be a HUGE calling for children who use xbox live on a daily basis, heck its not even kids that will enjoy the xbox live integration, adults can as well. imagine playing hydro thunder or some other multiplayer game with your child while you are out of state/country
windows 8 does pose a huge threat to the android and iOS tablet market shares, sure its not gonna kill them off completely because you got your fan boys on both ends but its gonna be like the pc market share is now 90% windows, 9% apple, 1% inux/android
vetvito said:
Microsoft is a huge threat to everyone now. At first Microsoft products didn't communicate good with each other, now you're looking at a real ecosystem. App parity on all of your devices. Same application on the PC phone and tablet. No one else can provide that right now.
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^THIS

vetvito said:
Microsoft is a huge threat to everyone now. At first Microsoft products didn't communicate good with each other, now you're looking at a real ecosystem. App parity on all of your devices. Same application on the PC phone and tablet. No one else can provide that right now.
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Actually, Both in Plat Store and Apple Apps Store, There are what we call universal apps fir both phone and tablet. 1 app for 2 devices. nothing new. Except for the PC part

[Q] Porting Windows RT to Nexus 7 - possible?

Since there are already some Tegra 3 based tablets with the new Windows on the market, I wonder if it is possible to port/boot somehow RT on N7? It would be so cool!

That would be VERY cool, if for no better reason than "because we friggin can"
unfortunately, we friggin can't without breaking the law.

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nickL0V3 said:
That would be VERY cool, if for no better reason than "because we friggin can"
unfortunately, we friggin can't without breaking the law.
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I'll bet Microsoft would be happy to sell you an rt license

Windows 8 on the Nexus 7 would be awesome. A dual boot would be even better with 4.2
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Windows 8 on the Nexus 7 would be awesome. A dual boot would be even better with 4.2
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I definitly agree, a Dual Boot with Android would be sooo freakin awesome.
I guess it isn't this complicated, because the CPU is the same.

seba47 said:
Since there are already some Tegra 3 based tablets with the new Windows on the market, I wonder if it is possible to port/boot somehow RT on N7? It would be so cool!
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Its not likely because rt require at least 2gb or ram , 1366x768 resolution and its is licensed by Microsoft which will cause legal trouble. It would be impossible to run on an 8gb nexus 7 because the ui requires 12gb and on a 16gb n7 there would be approximately 4gb remaining.

heat361 said:
Its not likely because rt require at least 2gb or ram , 1366x768 resolution and its is licensed by Microsoft which will cause legal trouble. It would be impossible to run on an 8gb nexus 7 because the ui requires 12gb and on a 16gb n7 there would be approximately 4gb remaining.
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it's not an os requirement, it's just for microsoft certification

heat361 said:
Its not likely because rt require at least 2gb or ram , 1366x768 resolution and its is licensed by Microsoft which will cause legal trouble. It would be impossible to run on an 8gb nexus 7 because the ui requires 12gb and on a 16gb n7 there would be approximately 4gb remaining.
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Not a problem for the 32 gig version then
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this can not be done without obtaining legal permission from microsoft case closed.

truthkillszz said:
this can not be done without obtaining legal permission from microsoft case closed.
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This isn't Apple, it's Microsoft. Microsoft has always been happy to produce software for a variety of hardware standards and platforms. They'll be happy to take your two hundred bucks if you can make it work on your hardware...

if this is illegal... Well, WP 7 was also ported to the HTC HD2, so were is the problem? You can't buy BOTH systems and for both systems there are no sourcecode available

the hd2 was a windows phone to begin with...
Jay Aristide said:
This isn't Apple, it's Microsoft. Microsoft has always been happy to produce software for a variety of hardware standards and platforms. They'll be happy to take your two hundred bucks if you can make it work on your hardware...
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unless all of us send microsoft $200 each if we port microsoft then they will be pissed cause remember the money we spent on our nexus 7's went to google and asus not microsoft so they get no money from us porting windows. And this topic has been brought up countless times on every device.

I was about to ask this. Windows RT is pretty much identical to 8 in every way, even has a desktop, so your nexus 7 could be a true pc.
However as surface reviews have pointed out, software availability sucks on RT right now to the point it made me wonder why ms even bothered with arm.
It sucks you can't buy RT outright
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Cor-master said:
I was about to ask this. Windows RT is pretty much identical to 8 in every way, even has a desktop, so your nexus 7 could be a true pc.
However as surface reviews have pointed out, software availability sucks on RT right now to the point it made me wonder why ms even bothered with arm.
It sucks you can't buy RT outright
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Microsoft bothered because it's a new market. Android, even iOS had no apps when they both started, and look at them now. These things take time.

And the play store and app store are unstoppable, ms had plenty of chances to start an app market starting with zune hd and they ignored it, at this point might as well stick with a software library that started in the 80s
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Cor-master said:
And the play store and app store are unstoppable, ms had plenty of chances to start an app market starting with zune hd and they ignored it, at this point might as well stick with a software library that started in the 80s
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get rich or die trying

This would be an interesting experiment, My nexus 7 already dualboots 4.2 and Ubuntu, and any other roms I wish to also load through the muliboot bootloader, I don't really think that I would use it but it would be interesting if only for the lulz.

fredopato said:
if this is illegal... Well, WP 7 was also ported to the HTC HD2, so were is the problem? You can't buy BOTH systems and for both systems there are no sourcecode available
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Possible and legal are two different things. I can install OS X on my PC, doesn't mean there isn't a DRM and licensing issue going on.

So this is a definite no??

I want it. Do it and I promise a decent donation!

Ubuntu Touch Porting coming up on Thursday

Whether or not Ubuntu Edge will get the green light or not (read Joey's great 5 Reasons Why You Should Stop What You’re Doing & Pledge to #UbuntuEdge), everybody's hard at work making Ubuntu Touch, the beautiful mobile OS, happen.
Two weeks ago we had our first Ubuntu Touch Porting Clinic and it went quite well. We found and fixed a number of issues in our tools, our porting guide and many porters turned up to ask their questions and update the images.
There's also still Michael Hall's offer to win an OPPO Find 5. If you are interested in winning it, or work on an existing port, create a new one and generally get Ubuntu Touch on devices out there, show up, talk to the Ubuntu Touch engineers, find out what's happening and how to get involved.
It's all happening
Thursday, 2013-09-22
in #ubuntu-touch on irc.freenode.net
Or reach us on the ubuntu-phone mailing list.

When is the radio going to be activated on non nexus devices? Especially samsung.
No they dont "just work" and im sure by now you guys know.
Whats d point of the beautiful mobile os if i cant call or browse.?
Less than 2 months to go this should be priority........ not everyone can get a nexus.
If at launch the media is yapping about how they cant even make calls on their test device this project becomes a lame duck......
Its weird how nobody seems to be bothered about this. Except of course its a deliberate thing to prevent mass use before v 1.0
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Bad luck!
Don't be too harsh. We should be gratefull for what Canonical is already giving (for free!) even if it's only on a few devices for now. The main focus is and should remain the OS itself, there's no space to support a countless number of hardware. That should be left to the community.
There is also no reason to support every android hardware because they are going to have their 'own' devices.

happyass**** said:
Bad luck!
Don't be too harsh. We should be gratefull for what Canonical is already giving (for free!) even if it's only on a few devices for now. The main focus is and should remain the OS itself, there's no space to support a countless number of hardware. That should be left to the community.
There is also no reason to support every android hardware because they are going to have their 'own' devices.
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I have no issue with it being exclusive to nexus devices as they are affordable and highly accessible without contract. However I have to agree on some points considering I have a nexus device in my hand with no native support. Verizon Galaxy Nexus. If you are going to commit to targeting Nexus audiences then at least follow through with that. Meanwhile I will be attempting to make a port myself so I understand how difficult radio's can be but I digress.

Not aware of the American network ecosystem so I can't argue with that. Indeed it does sound unfortunate.
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lllsondowlll said:
I have no issue with it being exclusive to nexus devices as they are affordable and highly accessible without contract. However I have to agree on some points considering I have a nexus device in my hand with no native support. Verizon Galaxy Nexus. If you are going to commit to targeting Nexus audiences then at least follow through with that. Meanwhile I will be attempting to make a port myself so I understand how difficult radio's can be but I digress.
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That old junk? Get a N4
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Some of us stay in places where buying a nexus is very difficult and even makes no sense.
in my country a nexus 4 retails for about 500 dollars!!
Secondly, there are no Ubuntu Devices until next year. Are u telling me v1.0 is designed to be used by only the nexus users? smh.
anyway if you know any port that has functional radios pls share....... as far as i know, none.
apparently we are developing a mobile OS we cannot use on a mobile phone... at least till we are able to buy a ubuntu phone..... which no one has committed to making yet.

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apparently we are developing a mobile OS we cannot use on a mobile phone... at least till we are able to buy a ubuntu phone..... which no one has committed to making yet."
@@@ "we"
Now;
1.Xda is a FREE (as in freedom) community for You & me & even big guys like Canonical.
2. Developers owe you nothing
3. Whining / eta / nag to devs are not liked anywhere.
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4llerbuntu said:
in my country a nexus 4 retails for about 500 dollars!!
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You can buy a GNex like me
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As a former ubuntu user I am looking forward to hearing news for samsung devices not the nexus ones. It's tiring and really time taking thng to port but may be Cannonical release it with a ported image.

lllsondowlll said:
I have no issue with it being exclusive to nexus devices as they are affordable and highly accessible without contract. However I have to agree on some points considering I have a nexus device in my hand with no native support. Verizon Galaxy Nexus. If you are going to commit to targeting Nexus audiences then at least follow through with that. Meanwhile I will be attempting to make a port myself so I understand how difficult radio's can be but I digress.
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They are targeting true Nexus phones directly from Google and not the carrier branded versions. The reason why you won't see a official image or a completely functional community built image for the Verizon/Sprint Galaxy Nexus is because the radio which is CDMA/LTE is proprietary to the carrier and so its harder to patch a RIL to work with those phones opposed to the standard RIL for GSM based phones.
If you want a functional Ubuntu Touch phone on Verizon, you will have to wait until a OEM makes one for Verizon. If not, you will probably have to switch to AT&T or T-Mobile to get a community/official built image for a phone.
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Nexus 9 won’t be updated to Android 7.1.2 Nougat

I read google will not update NEXUS 9 to the next version of Android.
http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-6-9-nougat-746286/

Too bad, but they told us in the beginning: Guarandeed updates untill Oct. 2016.
We're lucky that some smart Devs here can cook Custom ROMS for us.

Our two years of main updates are over.
So it's not surprising... So back to AOSP/LOS no problem.
The sad thing is we probably won't get our audio fix.

I am sad they have gave up not to bad with phones as I tend to get a new one with every contract but being as all new android tablets have been canned pretty much I hoped they would keep this one up to date. Looks like I'll be rooting

RIP and I just bought my Nexus 9, receive it today lol.. At least they got it to 7.1.1 which is substantial.
Google really has no other tablet, other than the Pixel C now. Nexus 9 is still a very strong contender in the Tablet world, nothing out IMHO worth the $$ to make a difference. Would love to see a 8.9" Pixel C2.

maybe all is not lost and Google will launch the second wave beta confirmed
and come on, why NP receive? just because is android tv?!

Well I received mine last week lol, thanks for the Open Source community that do their best to keep our devices alive, far from being outdated like the big companies wants us to believe.

Wonder if someone is going to make a 7.1.2 ROM and higher

USBhost said:
Our two years of main updates are over.
So it's not surprising... So back to AOSP/LOS no problem.
The sad thing is we probably won't get our audio fix.
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I'm sorry to hijack this thread, but what do you mean by audio fix?

iNaruX said:
I'm sorry to hijack this thread, but what do you mean by audio fix?
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Android 7.1.1 came with a nasty surprise, we got bad audio aka low bass and volume.
PS. Good anime !
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@Super-Veloce you bet I will!

Urgh.....
I just did a clean install of stock android 7 and this thing is so slow it hurts.
It takes like 5 seconds for the keyboard to appear in chrome. This is a fresh install of Android 7 stock.
I thought the fresh install would speed things up. I am so sad.
But maybe it's a sign that our devices are just getting too old

Macmee said:
Urgh.....
I just did a clean install of stock android 7 and this thing is so slow it hurts.
It takes like 5 seconds for the keyboard to appear in chrome. This is a fresh install of Android 7 stock.
I thought the fresh install would speed things up. I am so sad.
But maybe it's a sign that our devices are just getting too old
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Yeah... Stock Android is definitely running into issues... I'm running Lineage OS and it runs well now! It's still got life! No worries!

champ784 said:
Yeah... Stock Android is definitely running into issues... I'm running Lineage OS and it runs well now! It's still got life! No worries!
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I thought that was in alpha for the N9

Macmee said:
I thought that was in alpha for the N9
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It is... And it still runs better than stock! Just saying!

Macmee said:
Urgh.....
It takes like 5 seconds for the keyboard to appear in chrome. This is a fresh install of Android 7 stock.
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I had the same issue. I finally resolved it by performing a factory reset - it seems to format the data partition and thus resolv any corruption on the file system.
Now my N9 is back to 7.1.1 and runs smothly again.

champ784 said:
It is... And it still runs better than stock! Just saying!
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Where can i download the alpha? Or is it the unofficial you're talking about?

Marky__Mark said:
Where can i download the alpha? Or is it the unofficial you're talking about?
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It's the unofficial

I have seen other Google devices get better with the software updates after release, but the Nexus 9 is an exception. Like they never could fully get a handle on the SoC and memory management. They've given up.
Thankfully the community stepped in with wonderful kernel work among other things. The Nexus 7 has also benefitted greatly from community support. If I was in the market for a tablet that's not officially supported I'd go that way instead. Less likely to get a lemon IMHO.

kyyummy said:
I have seen other Google devices get better with the software updates after release, but the Nexus 9 is an exception. Like they never could fully get a handle on the SoC and memory management. They've given up.
Thankfully the community stepped in with wonderful kernel work among other things. The Nexus 7 has also benefitted greatly from community support. If I was in the market for a tablet that's not officially supported I'd go that way instead. Less likely to get a lemon IMHO.
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The Nexus 9 certainly has the power even with stock, mine has 6 or 7 different user accounts for managing family members games on it, it stutters a bit every so often but it's quite stunning that it can handle that, the tegra chipset is unparalleled and I believe it's been chosen for the new Nintendo Switch.

CutGlass said:
The Nexus 9 certainly has the power even with stock, mine has 6 or 7 different user accounts for managing family members games on it, it stutters a bit every so often but it's quite stunning that it can handle that, the tegra chipset is unparalleled and I believe it's been chosen for the new Nintendo Switch.
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I have the feeling that there must be different versions of the Nexus 9 in the wild. My Nexus 9 is so sluggish that I only use it to read ebooks. If I wipe it it's ok, for a couple of hours/days and then it gets slow again. The next thing I'll try is disabling the FS-encryption but if that solves anything why did Google enforce that in the first place?
I don't understand how people say "it has the power even with stock" and state "it stutters a bit every so often" just a couple of words later. It either is powerful and delivers a consistent performance or it isn't.