Hi all and thanks in advance for any help/information/answers I may get. A couple of weeks ago I bought a Defy off ebay with a known problem where the seller had tried to flash with less than half power and screwed the phone up. After two weeks and lots of reading I've managed to get Phone working (after flashing a chinese sbf that put BL7 on it) with a cm9 rom on it. Only problem I have now is that the phone believes its a Defy+ when it is a Defy (green lens). Whenever I put a battery in (fully charged through wall charger) battery meter only ever says 80% (at most) and the phone doesn't seem to charge the battery. I have tried various fixes including red lens and cm7 zips but got no-where. Does anyone have any other ideas please?
Hi try Asking to walter79 maybe he can help you.
at present there is no fix. the phone is stuck as it is now until someone comes up with bootloader downgrade.
my phone i presume yours and a few other unlucky souls who jumped before looking have a device that wont charge and that doesnt register true battery stats. as a workaround i use two batteries one charges in a wall charger while the other gets used and i keep alternating them when i need to.
my defy has been like this for about 3 or 4 months. the only way to fix this would be to be able to downgrade the bl7 to a bl6 or below but that isnt possible as yet and too be honest i wouldnt hold your breath that someone will bring out such a hack considering the phone is pretty long in the tooth nowadays. you can however at least root it and install other roms such as euroskanks cm7. the battery still doesnt work but you can hide the battery icon and simply keep alternaiting the battery and if you have a red lense the camera and everything else works sweet as a nut. if i cared that much about phones i would have changed it by now but quite frankly i dont. as long as it does what i need it to (which in reality is very little) then i will carry on using it as it is and when the price of an xt890 has dropped to such a level that i can justify buying one i will send thew defy off to mobile recycling company.
anyways sorry to be the bearer of bad news but look at on the bright side... at least you can now give up googling and then flashing all the defy battery fixes (none of which work for this particular problemo!).
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Hi try Asking to walter79 maybe he can help you.
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Thanks for that will do
rockmonkey1973 said:
at present there is no fix. the phone is stuck as it is now until someone comes up with bootloader downgrade.
my phone i presume yours and a few other unlucky souls who jumped before looking have a device that wont charge and that doesnt register true battery stats. as a workaround i use two batteries one charges in a wall charger while the other gets used and i keep alternating them when i need to.
my defy has been like this for about 3 or 4 months. the only way to fix this would be to be able to downgrade the bl7 to a bl6 or below but that isnt possible as yet and too be honest i wouldnt hold your breath that someone will bring out such a hack considering the phone is pretty long in the tooth nowadays. you can however at least root it and install other roms such as euroskanks cm7. the battery still doesnt work but you can hide the battery icon and simply keep alternaiting the battery and if you have a red lense the camera and everything else works sweet as a nut. if i cared that much about phones i would have changed it by now but quite frankly i dont. as long as it does what i need it to (which in reality is very little) then i will carry on using it as it is and when the price of an xt890 has dropped to such a level that i can justify buying one i will send thew defy off to mobile recycling company.
anyways sorry to be the bearer of bad news but look at on the bright side... at least you can now give up googling and then flashing all the defy battery fixes (none of which work for this particular problemo!).
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Thanks for the reply must admit I was beginning to think there was no way round this. Still no problem I only bought the phone to attempt the repair and then resell. Got four batteries for it so will give it to my daughter and sell her phone instead.
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Alright, so I think I bricked my phone! I had put android on it. 2.2 bluetopia? and everything was running fine. My battery was low so I go to charge it, but before I do that a page I was loading from the net froze on me without realizing and the screen dident turn off. I left and did some things and come back to the phone, screen is still on, still frozen and EXTREMELY hot. I get really nervous and get my phone and its to the point where I cant even hold it for too long without it hurting my hands. I take out the battery and pray for the best. My praying sucks apparently because now it does not turn on. Ive tryed letting the phone cool down though the night and it does not turn on. Ive tryed taking out sim card and mem card and it does not turn on. Ive tryed taking out the battery and plugging the the charger it does not turn on. Ive tryed with the battery with the charger it does not turn on! phone gets warm when I put the battery back in. Light that indicates when its charging with the charger doesnt turn on. only slight good news is when I turn the power on I feel a slight vibration from the phone like if its trying to turn on but just cant. Hope someone could shed some light and let me know If I should just move on because this sucks!!!!
ps. I hope people learn from my mistake.
pss. What are the return polices from htc or tmobile? Im concerned because I bought the phone second hand.
thanks for reading/helping.
As far as any return/exchange, it's definitely a no on both HTC &T-Mobile... And if she won't even boot at all, it sounds like a classic but common overclocking mishap.
Sorry to say, but it may be time to move on.
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One question for my personal understanding: Android ROMS that are offered here on the board are not innatelly overclocking my HD2, are they?! Now I´m really anxious, due to the fact that i´m using biffmod and my HD2 gets much warmer during strong usage (e.g. gaming)
Try doing a hard reset
Hold Volume up and call end button, it will go to the multi color screen and do a factory reset, this will erase all your data.
If possible, can you try a different battery? If you killed the battery by overheating (which is often easier than killing the phone using the same method), it might not even get to the first screen without power. A sure sign to see if it's your battery, is check the feel of it. if it's in any way bulged or kinda squishy it's probably fried, and if it's just the battery that's a lot cheaper than the whole phone.
In fact, I've gotten quite a few nice phones for real cheap, since the original owner thought it was "broken", when all it needed was a new battery.
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If possible, can you try a different battery? If you killed the battery by overheating (which is often easier than killing the phone using the same method), it might not even get to the first screen without power. A sure sign to see if it's your battery, is check the feel of it. if it's in any way bulged or kinda squishy it's probably fried, and if it's just the battery that's a lot cheaper than the whole phone.
In fact, I've gotten quite a few nice phones for real cheap, since the original owner thought it was "broken", when all it needed was a new battery.
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+1 on this. I also had one phone like this before. Change the battery.
it ended up being the motherboard. i sent it in for repairs through htc and they fixwe it. i tryed your guys suggestions on trying a different battery but it still would not turn on. lesson learned, Im going to try to avoid Android on my phone from now on.
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it ended up being the motherboard. i sent it in for repairs through htc and they fixwe it. i tryed your guys suggestions on trying a different battery but it still would not turn on. lesson learned, Im going to try to avoid Android on my phone from now on.
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Hate to hear what happened, but staying away from Android doesn't really seem like a solution to me. The percentage of bricks due to Android is very small, so I'd say go out, have fun with your phone while it's still up to date (lets face it, hardware improves too quick) and don't be left behind with WinMo 6.5. That's just not worth it imo. If you stick to non-overclocked kernels you really are pretty safe.
probably go 2 the shop and try 2 get a battery tested into your HD2
if that works, buy the battery
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Hate to hear what happened, but staying away from Android doesn't really seem like a solution to me. The percentage of bricks due to Android is very small, so I'd say go out, have fun with your phone while it's still up to date (lets face it, hardware improves too quick) and don't be left behind with WinMo 6.5. That's just not worth it imo. If you stick to non-overclocked kernels you really are pretty safe.
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you know what, you make a lot of sense. i did enjoy android quite a bit and will continue to use it. funny thing is I bought the hd2 just for android and did that until my phone broke and now im kinda liking winmo a lot now.
Got a new weird issue happening every now and then.
Phone will be plugged into the charger, but i'll notice when i wake in the morning that the LED will be flashing very fast (charging color) and i'll find that the phone had stopped charging and maybe 10 or 15% more than were it was when i plugged it in (say if i plugged in at 30% after 8 hours it will be at 45% and stopped charging there)
This has only recently started happening.
If i unplug and replug in the charger it will then charge upto maybe 95% and then stop (no flashing LED this time though) sometimes it will get all the wa upto 100% again
I've also wiped the battery stats etc etc...
Wondering if this is todo with the new void rom and updated kernel?
I can confirm, this also happened to me with MIUI rom, but the same kernel as void (franco.kernel)
I can also confirm strange charging behavior.
Plug in the charger, and phone rapidly drops 20% or so. Then phone is not fully charged by morning (6-8 hours).
I changed my USB wall adapter 2 days ago, and haven't had the problem since. Try changing yours as well and see if it helps. If the problem shows up again, I will update.
using my ipad charger, same problems, just noticed as I picked up the phone now that it's currently gone down to 95% charge when it was at
100 and still plugged in, unplugged and replugged and it charged up to 100 after a short while again, can kernels affect charging like this??
I'm starting to wish i just spent a few hundred more and got a galaxys2 now
why can't chinese designed phones be good quality?
may just have to chuck this in a bin
never had any problems with my htc magic
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I'm starting to wish i just spent a few hundred more and got a galaxys2 now
why can't chinese designed phones be good quality?
may just have to chuck this in a bin
never had any problems with my htc magic
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u get what u paid for.. if u like pls go get a galaxy s2 then..
and i really hope that u withdraw what u wrote above.. its very offending..
- from a Chinese..
btw, in case u didnt realise this.. htc magic is a chinese-made device as well..
sorry didn't know htc was a chinese company? maybe apple is a chinese company too? seeing as iphone is made in china
htc is actually a taiwanese company, unless you count china as owning taiwan
products designed and quality assessed outside china are always considered higher quality and better products, even chinese people I work with everyday say the same thing
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saying that taiwanese is not chinese is just like saying californian is not american..
anyway i see that we are standing on totally different grounds..
as we already have quite some argument here, im not interested to get involved in another political one..
i think its indeed better for u to throw x5 into the dusk bin and get an iphone..
that's very offending to taiwanese people
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iamelton said:
saying that taiwanese is not chinese is just like saying californian is not american..
anyway i see that we are standing on totally different grounds..
as we already have quite some argument here, im not interested to get involved in another political one..
i think its indeed better for u to throw x5 into the dusk bin and get an iphone..
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) You skipped some classes in school probably...Go back and review history/geography...You're probably trying to say that Taiwan is an Asian state, but that doesn't have anything to do with handset manufacturing quality...as HTC are not bad phones.
There is a difference between being "designed in California and made in China" like Apple and being "designed in Taiwan and made in Taiwan"...That difference is quality/price, anyone can tell.
I think you lost the plot...
Going back to the topic, the battery problem is generated by Froyo Roms by the looks of it, as both Oxygen and Miui (which are GB based) have much better battery life (twice as better, at least) and no charging problems.
Try off mode charging (turn phone off plug in). Does it work normally? If yes then it's a ROM/Kernel related issue, if no then it's probably a charger issue (try a different battery aswell if possible), if changing charger doesn't help, then its a phone hardware issue and you should ask the seller for a replacement.
forget about it..
Hey Guys.
I'm very excited to get my nexus 4 but I've been hearing a lot of people talking about the RLOD!!
What causes this problem and is there anyway to fix this??
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Hey Guys.
I'm very excited to get my nexus 4 but I've been hearing a lot of people talking about the RLOD!!
What causes this problem and is there anyway to fix this??
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the red light is just caused by using your phone the wrong way. it won't happen if you do not flash a custom rom anyway.
And if you flash custom roms it won't happen either, if you follow the standard steps you have to follow on every android phone. It's just a brick that can happen on every android device if you flash broken .zip's or anything else comparable .
People who claim this happened from a moment to the next without them doing anything wrong, are just not telling the truth. Even IF this would happen this way(not your own fault), you could easily get a replacement from google without any costs or problems.
Thanks for the reply,
Ive heard many people who had a completely stock and unrooted nexus 4 say they got a red light of death too... The problem is, I don't live in any of the countries that have playstore devices. So I'm having somebody from the US bring it for me...
S.H.A.D.E said:
Thanks for the reply,
Ive heard many people who had a completely stock and unrooted nexus 4 say they got a red light of death too... The problem is, I don't live in any of the countries that have playstore devices. So I'm having somebody from the US bring it for me...
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propably you could check the rev of those n4's (asking them in pm's). i can't imagine rev11+ have this problem anymore. I still won't believe this happened without a reason
S.H.A.D.E said:
Thanks for the reply,
Ive heard many people who had a completely stock and unrooted nexus 4 say they got a red light of death too... The problem is, I don't live in any of the countries that have playstore devices. So I'm having somebody from the US bring it for me...
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These many people you speak of? That's not even half possible for it to RLOD on pure stock without any mods it's just to save the hardware its the phones built in safety net...unless you plan on OCing to 1.98ghz and set it to performance and run antutu that will most likely do it for you
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Hi,
It happened wih or without running an Antutu bench. Yes some users have reported the red light on stock with rev 10 or with rev 11.
Antutu is not directly the culprit, it's due to a bad read of battery stuff (in a stress condition even at 50% battery the phone think you are out of battery then shutdown + heat, there is an issue with some phone about the battery contact inside the phone). If it's happen you can try to let your phone in charging for hours, sometimes it's enough. But the better thing is to open your phone then disconnect / reconnect the battery.
It happened also while flashing something in recovery mod, 40% battery, flash then reboot and bam red light...
Also on a French forum it happened during a download while browsing...
I agree we not know all the conditions together when it happened but it seems this is slightly random. Maybe a combination of circumstances...
It's "just" related to some weird battery reading issue.
For example I ran a bunch of Antutu bench with / without overclocking at different battery % (even at 11% battery ) without any issues, at least until today...
Take a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36304348
So does this problem happen to everybody or is only a minority of nexus 4 users affected? Do you think google would've fixed this problem by now??
Re,
It seems it's a minority phones who are concerned...
I don't know if Lg / Google have worked on the problem. As I read maybe the rev 11 are less concerned? But I'm not sure...
Don't be afraid, use your phone and if that happens rma or open your phone, there is always a solution
Alright, read a lot of threads and it looks like removing the battery and starting it again works perfectly. I also read somewhere that its due to too much pressure being applied on the thing the connects the battery to the phone.. - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2128392&highlight=red+light+of+death&page=2
Yes, it's what I said, ah I forgot this link.
When you search, you find
Happened to me a few days after I got it (100%stock, not rooted); I left it charging for some time and it turned on again like nothing happened. Didn't happened since.
Only time I had it was when I first rooted.
It got stuck in a boot loop on the "X" screen and when I rebooted to clear the cache the red light flashed and I had to hold the power button in to turn it off.
Booted into recover fine after that.
No issues since.
Alright that's good to hear. When did you guys get your nexus?? Maybe google resolved this issue.
I got mine very recently ordered in late February. It did red light because I flashed a mod which was for the nexus 7 but i flashed it on my nexus 4. I just went into recovery and flashed stock, phone was fine.
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Alright. Sounds good.
Got mine last week but it's a Rev 10 not an 11.
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the red light is just caused by using your phone the wrong way. it won't happen if you do not flash a custom rom anyway.
And if you flash custom roms it won't happen either, if you follow the standard steps you have to follow on every android phone. It's just a brick that can happen on every android device if you flash broken .zip's or anything else comparable .
People who claim this happened from a moment to the next without them doing anything wrong, are just not telling the truth. Even IF this would happen this way(not your own fault), you could easily get a replacement from google without any costs or problems.
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That is not true.. Red light appears due to some small chip next to the battery which is hardly put in there, you just need to release some pressure and it will be fine.. (there's a youtube video)
Loosen the screws?? Do you have a link to the YT video?
Ordered mine when they were first available, got it 2-3 weeks later (end of November).
Got a bricked rev11 301k here. Tried everything untill I get my replacement (takes a bit longer since I live in holland). Check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2177787&highlight=nexus+4+bricked for more info. Now I try to drain the battery and let it charge (put it in a cold enviroment for a full 24 hrs. Got past the google logo for half a second and saw the stock recovery before it went dead again
My Defy is now 4 years old and I love this phone because it's easy to unbrick and this was my first touch screen phone and I know my Defy well but now I'm having a problem where now my Defy is not as fast as it used to be. I have flashed too many roms to count, flashed a sbf maybe 4 or 5 times when bricked, and used the MacGyver Hack twice and after a while I was fine and now I settled for Epsylon Cm9 but through all that my Defy is still slow, (slower than it used to be) at first I thought is was Mokee os being it was Jelly Bean 4.3.1 but it wasn't. My Defy now gets hot when using mobile data, wifi reception is now lower no matter what android version, I also have one of the first made models with green lens and bad ear speaker, and the battery drops from 100 - 94 to 78 - 69 to 50 - 49 to 20 - 19 to 14 to 5 to 4 and dies suddenly in about maybe an hour to thirty minutes depending on what I'm doing. If anyone can give me solutions to my problems, that would be greatly appreciated even though I don't think many can help because I am good with a Defy even though I can't fix my problems with it. I'm also not a developer. Thanks in advance.
No suggestions?
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I am no developer neither, even a pure noob on XDA, but what you described may be connected to aging battery. If it is original one and was heavily used - it may be just chemically dying. Take it out and inspect if it is swollen. Mine original one is a bit, and it shows some loss of capacity and percentage drops as well. New one made by "Andida", standard dimensions, although labeled as 2200mAh, works well - almost as original 1500mAh one when it was new. It gave Defy back more stable percentage counter (although temp. sensor is not working properly), and better charge holding (original old one, seems to me to discharge itself quickly even when taken out of the phone and treated as a spare).
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I am no developer neither, even a pure noob on XDA, but what you described may be connected to aging battery. If it is original one and was heavily used - it may be just chemically dying. Take it out and inspect if it is swollen. Mine original one is a bit, and it shows some loss of capacity and percentage drops as well. New one made by "Andida", standard dimensions, although labeled as 2200mAh, works well - almost as original 1500mAh one when it was new. It gave Defy back more stable percentage counter (although temp. sensor is not working properly), and better charge holding (original old one, seems to me to discharge itself quickly even when taken out of the phone and treated as a spare).
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It is the original battery and it is kinda swollen. Thank you for the suggestion.
Hi Guys,
Hope of you experts can give me some tips because at this moment I can't afford to buy new phone so...
My Galaxy S5 is showing big issues to me, when its powered off and plug in to charger (wirelles DIY charging + and - to wireles charging pins on phone with using original Samsung charger, my charge port isn't working so this is my last resort, please don't judge me I simply can't afford new phone ) It bercomes really hot. Also when I power it on it becomes hot too (around 47celsius) and battery drains fast. In past I didn't have this problem, yes it was charging really slow but at the end when it reach 100% my battery lasts for two days (using greenify, and with all low settings) ...problems started two days ago. Bad thing is I can't connect it to Odin and make factory reset to stock rom so I wipe all and install fresh custom rom (XxX no limits, full debloated) from my SD card, but problem is not gone. I check out battery on my table and it is ok (also battery condition says: good).
What I can feel is not that battery is geting hot but cpu. So is there any chance to fix that? I already try several apps but with no luck
Maybe you guys can give me some tip like how to back to stock rom (and kernel) but with install from SD card as I can't acces Odin because of bad charging port....or any other tip is more than welcome as I can't afford new or used phone and S5 is still big thing for me according to its performance and other things...please help...
Thank You!
nobody?
Replace the god damn daughterboard with the microUSB 3 port. It will be better than going further with your stupid "wirelles" charging idea which can damage the phone. Don't be that cheap. Earn more money. Why did you buy it if you can't afford to keep it running?
西村大一 said:
Replace the god damn daughterboard with the microUSB 3 port. It will be better than going further with your stupid "wirelles" charging idea which can damage the phone. Don't be that cheap. Earn more money. Why did you buy it if you can't afford to keep it running?
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Hi dear friend, tnx for your kind reply,
Well... I got 16yo, don't have adress (you never know who is on the other side of the line and whats the story behind) to even order it from your family. I got this S5 as a gift from my mother who pass away last year. After spending some time with this fabulous phone (yes, I open it and reasamble even without heat gun )...I menage to fix it.
Everyone of us got that courious technician inside and lucky to me I go to technician high school so I know the basics of safety...etc.
Now I got almost new S5 (battery lasts for almost two days) fixed all by myself wich proves power of the will and quality of components that Samsung puts inside their phones.
Long live Android, Samsung and all other open source runned phones...also want to say special tnx for one high reputable person from this forum (he insist to stay anonymous) who encourage me on private msg to keep investigation as I refuse to recive his old android phone.
Sometime you gotta (or need) do DIY. <3 XDA ...Keep it going! <3