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A warning to all those buying a Nexus S (Screen and battery problems)

I thought I'd share some hopefully helpful information with you guys after having to have 2 swap outs of my Nexus S after getting it on launch day.
I had done an awful lot of reading prior to getting my Nexus to make sure I was pretty clued up about any potential launch bugs which seem to plague a number of handsets these days.
The first thing I noticed with my first phone was the unusually fast battery drain and long charge times, I could hardly go through daylight hours without my phone needing charge (Battery indicator showing orange or red). The following night I left the phone with 55% charge and went to sleep. When I woke up the phone was off, strange I thought; turns out it had eaten the rest of the battery over night.
The final straw came when I reset the phone to default settings (thinking it was a rogue app causing the drain) and it still ate the battery within a day. At this point I knew something was up, especially as reviewers were commenting that the battery seemed considerably better than a lot of other Android handsets.
I decided to take it back to Best Buy to get a swap out, long story short the sales rep. tested the battery and told me that it was defective. He then said he would swap out just the handset and battery with another unit, great I thought!
My relief was soon disturbed when I realised something wasn't right with the screen on my new handset. Not only was the screen a pee yellow colour (compared with the cool temperature of the original) there was also significant banding within the grey area of the the pull down notification tray. These problems had also been mentioned on the Engadget review and even if they hadn't I'm pretty sure I still would have noticed it straight away regardless.
After another trip back to Best Buy and a reluctant second swap out on their part, I have what seems like a fully working handset with a good battery and decent AMOLED panel.
I don't know what's happening with Samsung's QC or whether they have large tolerances for their panels, but I would have thought that they would have been able to iron a lot of this out having already launched the Galaxy S series.
A slightly long post but I hope this at least saves some of you the hassle I've been through to get a decent handset. This isn't the first time it's happened either, I had problems with my launch day iPhone 4 with the mic not working.
One thing's for sure, I'm going to be far more vigilant when buying my next handset.

also test ur buttons because they can be loose and the back button sometimes has problems

nothing new for samsung QA

Unfortunately, having come from the epic, this seems par for the course for sammy..I'd high hopes Google would counter this, but I guess not. My first and only ns is wonderful, though I ordered online and it seems the majority of complaints are coming from those that ordered at the store..coincidence?
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I had to return an iPhone 4 a few months ago because the screen was literally fused on crooked to the display. They all have their negatives and bad batches.
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brianbrain said:
Unfortunately, having come from the epic, this seems par for the course for sammy..I'd high hopes Google would counter this, but I guess not. My first and only ns is wonderful, though I ordered online and it seems the majority of complaints are coming from those that ordered at the store..coincidence?
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Sadly, Google != Apple, they don't produce their own hardware. Depending on Samsung, with their known ****ty QA is a risk I'm sure they weighed.

I ordered my NS online and have none off theses issues! Actually my battery life is AWESOME. 16 hours straight between charging. I love it!
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robstunner said:
I had to return an iPhone 4 a few months ago because the screen was literally fused on crooked to the display. They all have their negatives and bad batches.
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HHmm, If a few are defective, then they ALL must be. Quick, we must warn the others!

I'm not following you? I was implying that all phones have bad batches. No need to get butt hurt if that offended you?
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3G supported band
Guys,
Some thing out of the topic, but i need to ask is that is there any sort of 3G band limitation in US version of NS? My friend in Canada told me that currently all devices are coming only with AWS support for 3G which is supported by limited number of Cellular Operators.
Any ideas?

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Guys,
Some thing out of the topic, but i need to ask is that is there any sort of 3G band limitation in US version of NS? My friend in Canada told me that currently all devices are coming only with AWS support for 3G which is supported by limited number of Cellular Operators.
Any ideas?
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Correct, it wont work on AT&T/Bell/Telus 3G (someone correct me if im wrong about the Canadian carriers)

Having the same battery problem, please help
I am also having the same battery problem. It seems like the battery drains 1% per minute. I need to keep it charging all the time or it will drain in about 90 minutes. And it takes 8-9 hours to charge it to 100%.
Problem is I can't just take it back to Best Buy since I live overseas and a friend brought it to me from the US. So now what do I do?
1. Is it the battery or the phone? If it is the battery then I can just replace the battery, but I can't find anywhere online to buy the same battery? Any ideas?
2. If it is the phone, is there anything I can do w/o having to send it back to the USA?
Thanks so much for your help!

SmartphonesTV said:
I am also having the same battery problem. It seems like the battery drains 1% per minute. I need to keep it charging all the time or it will drain in about 90 minutes. And it takes 8-9 hours to charge it to 100%.
Problem is I can't just take it back to Best Buy since I live overseas and a friend brought it to me from the US. So now what do I do?
1. Is it the battery or the phone? If it is the battery then I can just replace the battery, but I can't find anywhere online to buy the same battery? Any ideas?
2. If it is the phone, is there anything I can do w/o having to send it back to the USA?
Thanks so much for your help!
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http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Standard-Battery-Moment-M900/dp/B0026LQL40/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top this battery works if you need to buy a new one

Calm down OP. You are just unlucky I suppose. Not only Samsung, I had to switch my ex droid2 three times. First, the microphone doesn't work. Second one, the power button then the third time physical keyboard was not responsive. Just my .02
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Its called mass production people each headset will have a defect!!! Live with it or dont buy simple

Yep battery life on my phone seems crap compared to my iPhone 4 but its a good phone never the less.
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As of now, the nexus s i definitely eating up more battery than my n1. but i usually give it a week before i can say fore sure. are there extended batteries out for the NS?

Thanks but this seller won't ship outside the USA. I found a bunch of similar ones on eBay, but they are all 1440 milliamps and not 1500 milliamps.
Not sure if the one on Amazon is 1440 or 1500.

SmartphonesTV said:
Thanks but this seller won't ship outside the USA. I found a bunch of similar ones on eBay, but they are all 1440 milliamps and not 1500 milliamps.
Not sure if the one on Amazon is 1440 or 1500.
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if you check the accessories thread someone says its a 1500

Darrien13 said:
also test ur buttons because they can be loose and the back button sometimes has problems
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Thx for that - thought I was going mad! Vol+ and Back seem dodgy - don't work every time. I'll be taking it back to the shop on Tuesday...

Charge for first use?

Hi.
I've seen lots of advice in several different ways about charging new tech when you get it.
So I thought I'd try a poll to see what the general consensus is.
1) Charge until light is green before turning it on the first time?
2) Turn on without precharge, but then run completely flat before charging
3) It's a Li-ion battery and it makes no difference
Thanks

SnakeManJayd said:
Hi.
I've seen lots of advice in several different ways about charging new tech when you get it.
So I thought I'd try a poll to see what the general consensus is.
1) Charge until light is green before turning it on the first time?
2) Turn on without precharge, but then run completely flat before charging
3) It's a Li-ion battery and it makes no difference
Thanks
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Many people will tell you it doesnt matter but I know from experience that it does in fact make a difference. When I got my phone (mt4g) I starte using it right away without charging it, everything seemed fine I had an issue with the screen so I exchanged it and got a new one. This one I charged first for a few hours before even turning it on and it did make a difference. my battery seemed to be holding a charge for longer. When I got another battery I read they recommend charging it fully off for at least 8 hours then when you do power it on let it run down all the way. Do that for the first 5 charges and it will help your battery health in the long run.
Another example is my friend got two of the same phone one for him and one for his gf. He started using his as soon as he got out of the store, hers he charged for her because he didnt see her that night. He said the phones are pretty much set up identically, same software, same services running etc.. and he said her battery lasts noticeably longer than his

graffixnyc said:
Many people will tell you it doesnt matter but I know from experience that it does in fact make a difference.
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Thanks for the input. Ya, I have heard a lot of stories like yours.
And even if it doesn't always make a difference, it's only 8 hours, so it should be worth it just to make sure, but when you've been waiting since January for an android tablet and you finally get one in April, 8 hours is forever. ha ha
Thanks

Oh, I suppose another related question is how much is fully charged? Apparently modern devices have a current regulator or something in them that stops it from charging past 95% or something? Not sure on specifics, but from what I've read. You can't charge it passed when the green light comes on anyway?
Anyone know more on this?

SnakeManJayd said:
Oh, I suppose another related question is how much is fully charged? Apparently modern devices have a current regulator or something in them that stops it from charging past 95% or something? Not sure on specifics, but from what I've read. You can't charge it passed when the green light comes on anyway?
Anyone know more on this?
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Many new batteries will charge to 90% or 95%, then display the light as "fully charged". They will continue to to charge to 100%, drain back down to 90%, and back and forth in order to not stick at full 100% (aka charging over night).
That being said I've heard a lot of talk about conditioning smartphone batteries etc. and for the most part I haven't seen a lot of evidence to prove that it is necessary. Lithium Ion batteries really don't need conditioning or anything as much as you'd think... that's really an old NiCad thing to do.

I did not charge mine when i first got it, the battery was already at 90% about and i simply used it for a day and a half and now i'm charging it for the first time. i regularly get new electronics devices and i never have better problems personally. battery tech has come up a ways in the last few years.

It's well known by now the Li-ion batteries do better with short, more frequent charges. It is not a good idea to run it down until dead. These batteries also do not have a "memory."

Placebo and old habits keep this myth around.
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I got my Xoom wifi and plugged it in and turned it on. Couldn't wait any longer.
It's an awesome tablet and the battery lasts all day, with constant wifi and playing.
Thanks for the advice guys

MikeyMike01 said:
Placebo and old habits keep this myth around.
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Well said. Alas, no matter what a sound scientific methods proves some people just won't listen...

I used it right out of the box and have no issued

Thanks for posting this - timely reminder to check up on the latest info on li-ion batteries (given I will be getting my xoom tomorrow).
Here is a summary on lithium ion:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
Appreciate if anyone finds other links that explain it even better but are also as reliable.

I thought of this thread. It's for N1 but if you have some spare time, tons of information in that thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765609&highlight=battery+calibration

Secondary battery

Has anyone tried buying a non official battery for their MS2 and care to comment or recommend any? Im going on holiday to france and i know my phone wont last a whole day without charging, so I was thinking of buying a second battery.

I read in another forum that using a non-Motorola battery displays some kind of warning. I'd go with an original battery.

jambo89liam said:
Has anyone tried buying a non official battery for their MS2 and care to comment or recommend any? Im going on holiday to france and i know my phone wont last a whole day without charging, so I was thinking of buying a second battery.
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using a non-original battery could have detrimental effects on your phone. there was a discussion on this on the forum of another phone. using a non-original battery could lead to leaks and other problems which would eventually lead to the warranty of your phone being voided.
stick with original motorola products. yes the battery might be very underpowered, but its the safest bet to ensure the longevity of ur phone

With a non original battery, the battery indicator of your phone shows a interrogation symbol. Also, it does not charge with the phone charger.
Sorry my analphabet english xD
@Motorola Milestone 2

bp7x 2300mAh battery

I 'm using a non-original battery . The MOMAX and everything's good ,it feels just like the original one except for battery tempperature sensor. the temp is always 26 in celsius

I personally have used seidio for my milestone and it works like a charm, its the extended 2800mah one it really performs like it should and not like how a lot of people claim thats its way less than stock! It does not always read it correctly but a quick reboot fixes that, like 50% after reboot would usually be about 70-80%. They way i used to use my phone (light to moderate level) would last about 2-3 days but after the extended I got twice that and some more. Just make sure you get stuff from the original manufactures either way and don't go for deals at amazon or whatnot as those guys might be selling either defected or not proprely stored stuff. Batteries are critical components don't go cheap on them! And no, my phone has not been messed up or had any leaks or anything and I have this for about 3-4 months now. The original battery degraded in about 6months if you have to compare.

That sounds promising, does the battery need to be charged with an external charger? And does the milestone complain that you are not using the official bettery
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metalron said:
I personally have used seidio for my milestone and it works like a charm, its the extended 2800mah one it really performs like it should and not like how a lot of people claim thats its way less than stock! It does not always read it correctly but a quick reboot fixes that, like 50% after reboot would usually be about 70-80%. They way i used to use my phone (light to moderate level) would last about 2-3 days but after the extended I got twice that and some more. Just make sure you get stuff from the original manufactures either way and don't go for deals at amazon or whatnot as those guys might be selling either defected or not proprely stored stuff. Batteries are critical components don't go cheap on them! And no, my phone has not been messed up or had any leaks or anything and I have this for about 3-4 months now. The original battery degraded in about 6months if you have to compare.
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reebooting your phone to get the exact picture also works on the standard battery. my question is, does the back part which houses the battery heat up when used? does the phone get hot during charging? do you need a new battery cover for it? and besides the longer usability, have you noticed any other performance issues on the phone?

agent008my said:
reebooting your phone to get the exact picture also works on the standard battery. my question is, does the back part which houses the battery heat up when used? does the phone get hot during charging? do you need a new battery cover for it? and besides the longer usability, have you noticed any other performance issues on the phone?
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Actually the rebooting to get the exact picture is not the same here, a jump to 20-30% on a stock battery? I don't think so. No I never encountered any odd behavior with the other battery. No getting extra hot during charge or use, get the typical little bit of heat while using 3G and browsing like mad but that would happen on the stock battery too. Battery cover for a 2800? of course, that stuff is huge! its protrudes like mad! a quick heads up though, the extended battery for the milestone 1 and 2 can use the same extended batteries. Don't know about the droid x though. Anyways, no performance issues, no heat while charging. The back covers supplied by these after market guys are not the best quality though so if you are someone who loves dropping phones and what not would recommed getting a spare back cover from the guys you get the batts from.
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That sounds promising, does the battery need to be charged with an external charger? And does the milestone complain that you are not using the official bettery
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No, I use my original charger and no complains or warnings by the phone. Not on the milestone 1 at least. In fact some times i use my ipod's adapter so no big issue. And it charges at the same pace as the stock, additional 1 hour or whatever. restart the phone to getting a proper reading as it shows 100% but upon restart its 70-80% since only the stock level is charged. I hear this app called battery left does great for calibration.

ALSO a thing to note, I only know of Seidio and Mugen to be relialbe after market battery guys hence their hefty pricing at times. The others claiming to have bigger batteries have cheated people with stickers and what not and usually end up underperforming and degrading considerably faster than burning paper! I remember 1USD batteries for nokias back in the day good for a quick one time run i suppose but these 1USD guys are now selling them with a better branding for like 20-40 USD.
Anyways Sedio and Mugen have facebook profiles and keep people posted on the latest on devices usually there, although its kind of sad since seidio have not followed through promised products at times.

metalron said:
Actually the rebooting to get the exact picture is not the same here, a jump to 20-30% on a stock battery? I don't think so. No I never encountered any odd behavior with the other battery. No getting extra hot during charge or use, get the typical little bit of heat while using 3G and browsing like mad but that would happen on the stock battery too. Battery cover for a 2800? of course, that stuff is huge! its protrudes like mad! a quick heads up though, the extended battery for the milestone 1 and 2 can use the same extended batteries. Don't know about the droid x though. Anyways, no performance issues, no heat while charging. The back covers supplied by these after market guys are not the best quality though so if you are someone who loves dropping phones and what not would recommed getting a spare back cover from the guys you get the batts from.
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thanks for the info mate. ill do a lil more research and probably check it out myself.

Thanks for the info i have bought a Seidio Innocell Extended Life for Motorola milestone 2 from mobilefun £30.49 its the 1500mah version same size as original battery so no extra cover is required.
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jambo89liam said:
Thanks for the info i have bought a Seidio Innocell Extended Life for Motorola milestone 2 from mobilefun £30.49 its the 1500mah version same size as original battery so no extra cover is required.
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Cool but as I suggested try and get them off the manufactures themselves as I have noticed some people complaining when purchased via 3rd party retailers.
Also another bud of mine had picked up one for the Nexus one, that phones back cover is a full one unlike the moto's and he too can vouch for the products positive performance. Either ways also check out some reviews from amazon.com for peace of mind.

http://yfrog.com/gz1yj2j
http://yfrog.com/h8n307j
Got my battery today looks official, I will charge it over night and test it tomorrow will let you know if it goes well.
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cmxyz said:
I 'm using a non-original battery . The MOMAX and everything's good ,it feels just like the original one except for battery tempperature sensor. the temp is always 26 in celsius
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can yo still charge it though because i bought the aninda battery and i could only charge it with an external battery charger

jambo89liam said:
http://yfrog.com/gz1yj2j
http://yfrog.com/h8n307j
Got my battery today looks official, I will charge it over night and test it tomorrow will let you know if it goes well.
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is the battery meter being shown or are you getting an error message because i would like to buy one

No complaints from the phone about it being the incorrect battery the battery has been charged within/by the phone no external charger required. I got the 1500mah version from mobilefun I doubt it will give much more performance but will see.
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After my first day of use I got around 11 hours of use before reaching 5%. Here are the usage statistics at 15%
https://picasaweb.google.com/105351366297036719015/DropBox?authkey=Gv1sRgCJna6ZH6hLKxzQE
Wifi was on most of the time, I was using my phone for the usual things. Occasionally checking socialfeeds, engadget, xda every hour or so and internet browsing I played 10 minutes of angry bids. Updated some apps and downloaded a few new ones.
Overall not a significant increase in battery life maybe an hour or so more from what I am used to.
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Killed my S2..

I have managed to kill my S2 by playing far too much Hot Springs Story (great game!)
While playing (we're talking a good couple/few hours), I noticed that even though when the phone is connected to the supplied charger, the handset requires more current than this is able to provide, and still discharges the battery (albeit, much slower).
I got a couple of 'battery temperature too high or too low, charging has been paused' while playing, as the phone was sat on my desk, I thought nothing of it.
The next morning I saw the handset had the same battery warning on screen, and was almost completely discharged (although the handset was still on). I knew something was not right then.. The phone was very hot in the casing to the right of the battery (when looking at it from the back). I guess this is where the charging circuit is, but I really dont know.
I couldnt get the battery to charge any more than a few seconds, either when the phone was booted into Android or in its off state. I managed to reload stock KE7 (which was already installed) just to see if it made a difference, it didn't :-/
The phone then refused to co-operate with the battery at all, and simply displayed a yellow exclamation mark next to the empty battery graphic on screen.
I bought a new spare battery of ebay, hoping that the intense discharge/recharge cycle had just wrecked the original battery, but unfortunately the replacement only charged for ~5-10minutes before showing the same yellow exclamation mark :-/ I guess its the charging circuity thats failed.
The handset was from O2 on PAYG, I debranded it by putting stock KE7 on it, and a few counts on the custom kernel flash counter, I'm hoping I can warranty it without too much hassle, but I am a bit anxious that technically O2/Samsung dont have to honour the warranty.. I'll let people know how it goes..
Missing my handset!

hmm, that sucks. so it does really overheat when charging... wow, that sucks a lot! normally when the battery is full, it stops charging and the temperature returns to normal, even though it is connected to the charger.
i guess the same could potentially happen while on a trip and charging/consuming battery using satnav, or listening to music.
not good.

Nothing you did (except rooting) is extraordinary use. They promote its use for games and that's what you were doing. I'm guessing Samsung Tech will probably just replace the phone rather than try and repair it. Good luck.

i got my phone about 1 week ago and only charged it about 6 - 7 times since i got.
Well on my second charge the battery was on zero phone turned off so i connect it to the wall charger and i got the yellow exclamation mark!!!! took the battery off put it back on and it started charging.
And just than on my 7-8th charge my phone was out of battery off so i decided to charge it off my laptop and i connect it to see i get the yellow exclamation mark again while phone is off. But this time i took the battery off put it back in wouldn't work. So i kept trying it after about 5 mins of connecting disconnecting the cable i managed to get it to start charging. (this time at work so had no power point charger)
EDIT: Australian Optus branded phone with no firmware change (still stock, no root, nothing).

Sorry to hear this mate. I also noticed the battery going down faster than it was charging, while playing Retro defense. And the device was getting really hot. If this can damage the phone then I'll stop playing that much with it.
Maybe you have a faulty one?

Here is my finding regarding heat
While running some tests for the robo defense dev to provide a log file so that he can get the freezing issue addressed, i did notice that my phone was getting extremely hot.
I've played plants vs zombie, grave defense hd, etc on charger and i've never gotten close to the heat felt through the phone today once robo defense frozed and i didn't close the app for a good while to create a log dump using adb
Could it be possible that some of these rogue apps are driving the device to 100% usage causing it to heat up?

how hot is extremely hot? The hottest I caught mine at was 48°c. That was while playing a game and charging at the same time

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how hot is extremely hot? The hottest I caught mine at was 48°c. That was while playing a game and charging at the same time
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i didn't smell anything funny but it didn't feel safe letting it run endlessly

ph00ny said:
Could it be possible that some of these rogue apps are driving the device to 100% usage causing it to heat up?
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I think that is EXACTLY what's going on... I truly believe some of these games are either not written or optimized for this phone's dual core processor. I can play most games with no problems, including some of the bigger Gameloft games. But, there are a select few games that get the device way too hot for my liking... like Sky Force Reloaded. I have never played it completely through because I can feel just how hot the phone gets even through the case.
I think these issues will be ironed out in time, but definitely app dependent right now.
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Get the usb jig from ebay to reset counter for 5$ then reflash payg o2 (also in the debranding topic)) and then send it back
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cmd512 said:
I think these issues will be ironed out in time, but definitely app dependent right now.
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Definitely true for me. I can play many games for an extended period of time. Plants Vs Zombies, Death Worm, even something graphics intensive like Modern Combat 2 is no problem. But, if I play 10 minutes of Bonzai Blast it's radiating heat and the battery has lost 10%.

Sorry to read this mate.
On a side note, they say 2.3.4 will utilise Galaxy 2's hardware better, it will be more battery efficient and not overheating as much... So until then it may be a good idea not to "abuse" it too much (I know it sound crazy, but hell...)

Quick update:
I've returned the phone to the O2 store today for repair.
This was in its debranded state with the stock KE7 firmware installed, and I think 5 custom kernel install counts.
I think I could have got it back to stock by borrowing a friends charged battery, reinstalling stock rom, and then usb jigging it back to 0 custom kernel installs, but I thought I might as well 'take one for the team' and use this experience to test how flexible Samsung's repair shop is when dealing with handsets like this (HTC repaired my unlocked Nexus one without any fuss)
I've been *very* impressed with Samsung's dev friendly attitude so far, they're not only setting the standards in Android hardware used, but also with how their company recognises the wants of its consumers. I'm sure I won't be disappointed..
Should know in about 7 days!

bakachu said:
Quick update:
I've returned the phone to the O2 store today for repair.
test how flexible Samsung's repair shop is when dealing with handsets like this (HTC repaired my unlocked Nexus one without any fuss)
Let us know if O2 repair or Samsung .
Its often down to the tech that picks the phone up some may just flash the stock rom and not bother others as been posted might be more picky .
As per the O2 store that refused warranty on my SGS1 .
Unlocking will not void any warranty as O2 offer the service themselves as do all networks .
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Quick update, still under repair.
It came back once with a letter saying that they (o2) replaced the circuit board, but it was still broken.
It then got sent off again, and I've been told today that its come back from repair with a letter that only says 'BER', which means Beyond Economic Repair apparently.. so they're (the o2 shop) are sending it back for a repair team leader to look at now :-/
Bit fed up :-/

bakachu said:
Quick update, still under repair.
It came back once with a letter saying that they (o2) replaced the circuit board, but it was still broken.
It then got sent off again, and I've been told today that its come back from repair with a letter that only says 'BER', which means Beyond Economic Repair apparently.. so they're (the o2 shop) are sending it back for a repair team leader to look at now :-/
Bit fed up :-/
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BER is actually good news. You'll probably get a new phone. I doubt at this point the team leader's going to say anything about your mods. He'll probably just rubber stamp it.

I always thought people shouldn't use their phones while charging at the same time
Anyway, hope they'll give you a new one. I always cringe every time I feel the back of the phone warming up...

elkikin said:
I always thought people shouldn't use their phones while charging at the same time
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Not possible for developers When developing an app, the handset will be 'always on', charging, and being used for 8hrs+ all at the same time!
Addictive Japanese quasi-RPG games are a separate matter though..

Pocket legends is a killer. On it for five min n phone got really really hot. Checked temp n it was 44 degrees... Not good
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i'm getting worried after reading here. last time i used with google navigation and charging same time, battery heat went over 50°c and it was really hot..
and that was just for one hour google navigation.

So what's dead / dying in my 6P

This happened to me today while browsing facebook.
My phone suddenly shut down. While trying to turn on, it would get to booting screen and then shut down again. It didn't loop - I had to try each time manually.
I cleared cache and reset it to factory settings to no avail. BUT once I got back home and managed to connect it to a charger (the battery was at estimated 90% capacity), everything runs smoothly. No shutdowns, no freezes - despite the phone getting warm. I stressed it quite a lot and it seems to hold, so I don't think this is related to the "bigger" CPU.
Could it possibly be a battery issue? Could my device be misreading the actual capacity of the battery?
As a sidenote: it did crash/shutdown once I disconnected the charger, but only after 20 minutes or so when I uninstalled a running at that time app.
Any feedback will be greatly appreciated, so I have something to work with and replace stuff accordingly - and hopefully not the entire phone, as I love my 6P.

It seems like it has to be connected to the battery, as it has been now holding (presumably) at 56% charge for over 4 (!) hours. AccuBattery shows the same data as what the phone reads, and now it seems that my power drain is in negative without charging the phone.
Sadly, there are no original replacements available in my country. Only cheap 3550mAh knockoffs that sellers call OEM. They do have Huawei logo, but everyone knows that 3450mAh is the only original capacity (right?)

Update: Nearly 20 hours on the same displayed 56% capacity.
Any help? Please?

No, you are wrong. Those 3550mAh batterys are the brand new ones from huawei. Those are the newest revision of the battery. Dont get the 3450 ones. If the seller is really selling a 3450mAh one, then its probably one of the old ones with the known issues.

ncc8uetou5et said:
No, you are wrong. Those 3550mAh batterys are the brand new ones from huawei. Those are the newest revision of the battery. Dont get the 3450 ones. If the seller is really selling a 3450mAh one, then its probably one of the old ones with the known issues.
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Thanks for the heads-up. Just out of curiosity - how do you know that? When I contacted Huawei support, they did not answer me whether the 3550mah bat is a genuine product, or a farce. They avoided that question until they force-closed my support ticket without a proper answer.

First: Because i bought one and informed myself before. Then the new battery ran better then ever before. Even better then when the nexus 6p was new. Its the new batch that is better then ever before.
Second: you can read more about this topic in the correct forum thread about that: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78453441&postcount=1023
The thickness of the cable does not matter that much. Something you can care about is the weight. But this is something you can check when you got the new battery and also took the old one out.
To have longer battery life dont use the original charger. Use max a 5V 2A one. For example from a older Samsung mobile phone. Those have good electrical efficiency.

ncc8uetou5et said:
First: Because i bought one and informed myself before. Then the new battery ran better then ever before. Even better then when the nexus 6p was new. Its the new batch that is better then ever before.
Second: you can read more about this topic in the correct forum thread about that: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78453441&postcount=1023
The thickness of the cable does not matter that much. Something you can care about is the weight. But this is something you can check when you got the new battery and also took the old one out.
To have longer battery life dont use the original charger. Use max a 5V 2A one. For example from a older Samsung mobile phone. Those have good electrical efficiency.
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Thanks again.
For the 3 years I've bee using my 6P I never had battery life issues. In fact, even now the battery is holding well, despite the stats showing that my battery might be dying.
I came to this forum section looking for feedback on what could possibly be going on with my phone presenting the issues I am having. I am no mobile tech unlike many of guys around here. I might budge then and hope that the local Huawei repair center in my city will be of more help than the official Huawei support.