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Restoring to Factory Rom after rooting...

Sorry for the noob question, but Im a long term Blackberry user just switched to the N1...
Question about rooting. If I root the N1, understanding that once you root you can not "unroot", if I use a custom Rom but prefer to go back to the factory one, is that possible, or how do I do so ? also,
On custom Roms like Cyangen, can one still download updates from Google ? (ex. version 2.xxx with flash when it comes out) ?
thanks

You can unroot, you just can't relock your bootloader ATM.
Do a search in the development section and you'll find posts about how to flash everything back to stock. The only difference is you'll always have that little unlocked padlock at the bottom of your boot screen.
Typically you don't see updates from Google with a modded firmware, but you see updates from the ROM developer all the time.

Cool, thanks for the info...
So once rooted, if I do want to return to factory settings, I would just install the HTC N1 Rom as if I installed any other Rom, and everything would be back to factory ( except for bootloader ), enabling me to get OTA updates, etc...
I've heard with custom Rom's, people have had trouble with 3G or network/radio issues, and being in Canada, little nervous about that since the N1 was just released here.
Thanks

I don't know about all that in Canada, but you're best bet is to try the various ROM's (Cyanogenmod preferred), and then test different radios with those ROM's. It'll give you a better opportunity to find a radio that works for you in your area, considering there hasn't been an official radio update released through Google's channels.

I'm pretty new to all this too but to get OTA updates again, from google, I think you need the stock recovery too (ie: not Amon_Ra recovery).

i do miss the iphone for that reason press restore in itunes and its back to as it was out of the box ,this baby is a lot more tricky

I don't mean to turn this into an iPhone comparison thread so please don't take my comment as such, but NOT being forced to used iTunes to handle everything is much preferred for me, even if things aren't as straightforward. That said, as someone who obviously doesn't use iTunes, doing anything with the Nexus One wasn't as difficult because I didn't need to install any alternative media software just to get the phone working.

Finally about to take the plunge and root...Question is where do I find the factory N1 Rom ( stock Rom ) if I decide to switch back ( maybe when flash is released ).
Also, read that you can back up your existing Rom during the root process...Is the back-up a secondary app to install or included in the .zip packages that are needed to root ? how is the back-up done ?
thanks

SmokinSteveO said:
Finally about to take the plunge and root...Question is where do I find the factory N1 Rom ( stock Rom ) if I decide to switch back ( maybe when flash is released ).
Also, read that you can back up your existing Rom during the root process...Is the back-up a secondary app to install or included in the .zip packages that are needed to root ? how is the back-up done ?
thanks
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You seem to only want flash - you do know, that features presented in OTA releases usually make their way into custom ROMS before or a few hours (at least a day) after the OTA. Himem (the ability to use all the RAM) is already out in mostly all ROMS, way before Google is releasing it - along with trackball colors.
Really, you don't need to worry..

Eclair~ said:
You seem to only want flash - you do know, that features presented in OTA releases usually make their way into custom ROMS before or a few hours (at least a day) after the OTA. Himem (the ability to use all the RAM) is already out in mostly all ROMS, way before Google is releasing it - along with trackball colors.
Really, you don't need to worry..
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Well flash was just an example...my only concern is that I could be one of the
unlucky ones that experience problems after I root and install a Rom, so just the thought of having a stock Rom on hand is piece of mind.
Also, being in Canada on Rogers, just curious how my 3G ( radio ) will react to it.

I'm on Rogers too and still waiting to see if my phone is problem free before rooting. Let me know how it turns out when you take the plunge

I'm on Fido (essentially the same band/frequency as Rogers), Cyanogenmod 5.0.5.3 (latest version at this time), and I'm having no problems with the 3G connection whatsoever. No dropped calls, no switching to EDGE randomly or anything. Never flashed a different radio or anything.
I did have to manualy enter my APN info in order to get my data connection working, however (no biggie, just type in some info). I had to do that even straight out of the box, so it's not a custom ROM issue.

[Q] Some questions about rooting

Hello guys, I have some questions I am hoping you experienced people can answer for me.
After doing a bunch of research, I am left a bit confused since a lot of the posts are older, and things have changed over the last few months, especially with locked bootloaders and such.
My current phone is:
-Samsung S4 (Fido based) SGH-i337M
-Android Version 4.3
-Baseband Version i337MVLUEMK6
I only want to ROOT the phone, so I can remove a bunch of excess Samsung bloatware that I never use, I am not really interested in custom ROM's at this time.
1. What is a Custom Recovery exactly?
I keep reading about Custom Recoveries but I don't really know what they are exactly... . Is this just a Firmware mirror that I can go back to at any time AFTER I root the device? Do I need to root the device to CREATE the Custom Recovery?
2. CAN I go back to "Stock" easily? Can I just find the original 4.3 Samsung FW and load it up?
3. I know that moving to 4.4 will require another Root when it becomes available later this month from Samsung, however can I go to the Default Android 4.4 ROM at this time, skipping all the Samsung Stuff?
4. I see a programmed called KINGO offering to root my phone for me, but then somebody said something about there not being a Custom Recovery available for it, which goes up to my original question. Can I not just revert back to unrooted status after?
Thanks to anybody who can help me with these noobish questions, I appreciate it.

I don't have your model so don't want to guess at rooting.
But:
Do not remove Bloatware after rooted. Get Titanium BackuP from the Market. The paid version (support devs) and just freeze the apps until you know they have no negative impact after freezing.
Do a Nandroid ASAP and put a copy on PC also.
Read this on your Recovery question:
http://freedupthoughts.com/2013/04/what-is-custom-recovery-why-should-i.html
You have an unlocked bootloader with the i337m
Someone else can address correct rooting for your specific device and get the correct recovery for it. I prefer TWRP.

[Q] LTE Support on Rooted Note 3 Ireland

Hi all,
First of all I'm sorry if this isn't the right place for this thread, it just seems like the related threads are in this forum.
First of all I have the international unbranded version of the note three (SM-N9005), which I rooted in order to use VPN. I did this using the chainfire method which of course tripped the knox flag, I'm not griping about that because I don't really care about the warranty, just giving facts.
This then prevents the phone from checking for updates properly saying "device has been modified" or something like that.
I'm on three ireland and they very recently switched on 4g/lte network support but you need to accept an ota update to enable it. Therein lies my problem, I can't accept an ota update.
I would have no problem unrooting to accept an update, but that doesn't reset the knox flag and my phone will still show up as modified and considering the amount of effort I would have to go through to unroot just to end up on the same situation as I'm in already is not worth it.
I have tried the viaero 4g toggle app but this just gives a black screen for me. I also tried the persist.radio.lteon.xml fix but I couldn't find that file to change the setting. These solutions suggested here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2468624&page=2
So my questions:
Is there any way to flash some sort of firmware unofficially to give lte support?
If I flashed a custom rom would that give me lte support? Or do I need to flash the official 3 Ireland lte firmware first?
If that will work, can anyone recommend a rom to install?
Finally has anyone managed to get themselves out of a similar situation yet?
Hope somebody can help,
Thanks for reading
Barry

bazzertron said:
Hi all,
First of all I'm sorry if this isn't the right place for this thread, it just seems like the related threads are in this forum.
First of all I have the international unbranded version of the note three (SM-N9005), which I rooted in order to use VPN. I did this using the chainfire method which of course tripped the knox flag, I'm not griping about that because I don't really care about the warranty, just giving facts.
This then prevents the phone from checking for updates properly saying "device has been modified" or something like that.
I'm on three ireland and they very recently switched on 4g/lte network support but you need to accept an ota update to enable it. Therein lies my problem, I can't accept an ota update.
I would have no problem unrooting to accept an update, but that doesn't reset the knox flag and my phone will still show up as modified and considering the amount of effort I would have to go through to unroot just to end up on the same situation as I'm in already is not worth it.
I have tried the viaero 4g toggle app but this just gives a black screen for me. I also tried the persist.radio.lteon.xml fix but I couldn't find that file to change the setting. These solutions suggested here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2468624&page=2
So my questions:
Is there any way to flash some sort of firmware unofficially to give lte support?
If I flashed a custom rom would that give me lte support? Or do I need to flash the official 3 Ireland lte firmware first?
If that will work, can anyone recommend a rom to install?
Finally has anyone managed to get themselves out of a similar situation yet?
Hope somebody can help,
Thanks for reading
Barry
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If you reflash back to complete Stock your status will show Official, also you can try a custom ROM, ALL of them are capable of getting LTE by default. I have no issues with them.

radicalisto said:
If you reflash back to complete Stock your status will show Official, also you can try a custom ROM, ALL of them are capable of getting LTE by default. I have no issues with them.
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Thanks for the quick reply radicalisto, to be honest I'm ready to move away from touchwiz so a custom ROM sounds like a good solution to me. Choosing one is the conundrum. Are any of them more stable/full featured than the rest? I would appreciate any advice about a ROM to choose.

Well to be honest, custom ROMs are trial and error, but the new Kitkat ROMs are awesome, I personally tried them all and have settled on one (won't say which cause it may sway you haha) - however these are TW based ROMs.
If you are on 4.3 still and fancy CM11 -- Two ROMs you should try are temasek's CM11 + Yank555's kernel (amazing pal) - Or ProBAM with Yank555's kernel (Just as good as temasek's) both are packed with great features, awesome battery life and generally just great. However you may or may not know, CM doesn't support SPen functions, you'd have to use GMDSPen or another alternative.
EDIT: Little side note, again not sure if you are aware.. if you flash Kitkat 4.4.2 your bootloader upgrades so you cannot use CM, as it runs on 4.3's bootloader, there is no downgrade option either currently.

Not that I'm so concerned about the CM bootloader using 4.3, but would I be safe in assuming that the CM team will have to eventually switch to the 4.4 bootloader?

radicalisto said:
Well to be honest, custom ROMs are trial and error, but the new Kitkat ROMs are awesome, I personally tried them all and have settled on one (won't say which cause it may sway you haha) - however these are TW based ROMs.
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Well you're allowed to tell me as I was asking to be swayed...
I'm thinking I'm going to try x-note first as it seems to be the most popular and I'm guessing it's that way for a reason.

Yeah CM team are working on it now from what I have read, I'm using X-Note V.8 with CivZ KatEngine 2.0 kernel

Bobcat roms unrooted?

Hey guys,
So I've been playing around with my Galaxy Note 3 Canadian version and found bobcat is my favorite rom, it prompts me to update the rom and flashes the phone. Everything works great, install was a little tricky cause it's not as strait forward as it could be. But I guess Iinstalled kernel back onto my phone with the bobcat rom. And now my phone iisn't rooted anymore but am running bobcat. So I try and run towel root but it says it doesn't support my device even when I go threw and change all the codes for devices. So wanam exposed doesn't work and I can't customize or use the hotspot service. (as my service provider doesn't alow me to and that's why I wanted to have a custom rom in the first place it bypasses it)
Any tips or help will be much appreciated u have also done a root check and that came negative too.
Thanks in advance

Rooting a S5 G900F. Total newbie.

Last week I received a brand new S5 G900F, no carrier, and want to have administrator privileges in order to remove bloatware. Plus, it would be nice to have adblock and apps to back up the entire system, both which aren't available in the phone's stock form, and maybe a custom ROM and Kernel.
I have never rooted a phone nor messed with its system files, so I'm a complete newbie on this. Also, I haven't connected it to the Internet yet, so that the phone is in its stock form before rooting it.
What's the simplest, safest yet effective method for rooting my phone? Afterwards, can I just update the phone to the latest version using the regular system settings menu, or should I do it externally (downloading the update on the PC)? Any particular tips on what to do next, such as what apps to remove, which to install and so on, if possible while keeping it simple? I read that CM 12.1 (ROM) + Ktoonsez (Kernel) is the way to go.
Thanks in advance.

Hi Avensvvvvvv
The best, safeest way to Root? - Have a look in the Q&A Forum, its mostly all here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2700073
Some people use TowelRoot...
I used CF Auto root and found it easier. You can find here at XDA or at http://droidors.com/2015/03/24/root-samsung-galaxy-s5-sm-g900i-android-lollipop-5-0/ be aware that this link is for the g900i ot the g900f.
As for updating etc....a lot of the latest ROMS come with OTA (over the air) updates. Which ROMS? There is kind of a rule here that you dont ask which ROM is best because the idea is that you do loads of reading and try them out for yourself Lately Ive been playing around with PhoeniX ROM, Alliance ROM and some of the CM stuff...but all are good. Removal of Bloatware is pretty straight forward using Titanium Backup - or some ROMS supply their own method for doing do. Just be sure to not mess around with any of the system files while your still learning. Search Bloatware and you should find some good advice.
Thats about it mate - the main thing is to read, read, read and ask lots of questions before you do anything. Otherwise you'll have a very expensive paperweight on your desk Most of the people here are cool with Noobs asking questions in the correct forums....by the way this post should really be posted in the Q&A forum
Good luck flashing and rooting...and most of all....have fun!
Mugsyfied

You have a good answer in the above post.....
But in future, you need to give us more information about your device so that we can offer advice that is suited more exactly to your circumstances....
The version of Android currently running on your device is one critical bit of info you didn't provide.....
Some things to bear in mind about your phone....
1) Samsung have included something called Knox on these phones....it is basically an un-resettable 'eFuse' which 'tripps' when you flash any custom software to your device. Samsung are using it as an indicator to allow them to deny warranty claims.
2) when you root your phone you WILL trip knox, this will probably prevent you from receiving OTA updates to your device....and even if (by some miracle) you did get an OTA, it will remove your root access, and you'll have to start again....
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg