Sorry for the noob question, but Im a long term Blackberry user just switched to the N1...
Question about rooting. If I root the N1, understanding that once you root you can not "unroot", if I use a custom Rom but prefer to go back to the factory one, is that possible, or how do I do so ? also,
On custom Roms like Cyangen, can one still download updates from Google ? (ex. version 2.xxx with flash when it comes out) ?
thanks
You can unroot, you just can't relock your bootloader ATM.
Do a search in the development section and you'll find posts about how to flash everything back to stock. The only difference is you'll always have that little unlocked padlock at the bottom of your boot screen.
Typically you don't see updates from Google with a modded firmware, but you see updates from the ROM developer all the time.
Cool, thanks for the info...
So once rooted, if I do want to return to factory settings, I would just install the HTC N1 Rom as if I installed any other Rom, and everything would be back to factory ( except for bootloader ), enabling me to get OTA updates, etc...
I've heard with custom Rom's, people have had trouble with 3G or network/radio issues, and being in Canada, little nervous about that since the N1 was just released here.
Thanks
I don't know about all that in Canada, but you're best bet is to try the various ROM's (Cyanogenmod preferred), and then test different radios with those ROM's. It'll give you a better opportunity to find a radio that works for you in your area, considering there hasn't been an official radio update released through Google's channels.
I'm pretty new to all this too but to get OTA updates again, from google, I think you need the stock recovery too (ie: not Amon_Ra recovery).
i do miss the iphone for that reason press restore in itunes and its back to as it was out of the box ,this baby is a lot more tricky
I don't mean to turn this into an iPhone comparison thread so please don't take my comment as such, but NOT being forced to used iTunes to handle everything is much preferred for me, even if things aren't as straightforward. That said, as someone who obviously doesn't use iTunes, doing anything with the Nexus One wasn't as difficult because I didn't need to install any alternative media software just to get the phone working.
Finally about to take the plunge and root...Question is where do I find the factory N1 Rom ( stock Rom ) if I decide to switch back ( maybe when flash is released ).
Also, read that you can back up your existing Rom during the root process...Is the back-up a secondary app to install or included in the .zip packages that are needed to root ? how is the back-up done ?
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SmokinSteveO said:
Finally about to take the plunge and root...Question is where do I find the factory N1 Rom ( stock Rom ) if I decide to switch back ( maybe when flash is released ).
Also, read that you can back up your existing Rom during the root process...Is the back-up a secondary app to install or included in the .zip packages that are needed to root ? how is the back-up done ?
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You seem to only want flash - you do know, that features presented in OTA releases usually make their way into custom ROMS before or a few hours (at least a day) after the OTA. Himem (the ability to use all the RAM) is already out in mostly all ROMS, way before Google is releasing it - along with trackball colors.
Really, you don't need to worry..
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You seem to only want flash - you do know, that features presented in OTA releases usually make their way into custom ROMS before or a few hours (at least a day) after the OTA. Himem (the ability to use all the RAM) is already out in mostly all ROMS, way before Google is releasing it - along with trackball colors.
Really, you don't need to worry..
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Well flash was just an example...my only concern is that I could be one of the
unlucky ones that experience problems after I root and install a Rom, so just the thought of having a stock Rom on hand is piece of mind.
Also, being in Canada on Rogers, just curious how my 3G ( radio ) will react to it.
I'm on Rogers too and still waiting to see if my phone is problem free before rooting. Let me know how it turns out when you take the plunge
I'm on Fido (essentially the same band/frequency as Rogers), Cyanogenmod 5.0.5.3 (latest version at this time), and I'm having no problems with the 3G connection whatsoever. No dropped calls, no switching to EDGE randomly or anything. Never flashed a different radio or anything.
I did have to manualy enter my APN info in order to get my data connection working, however (no biggie, just type in some info). I had to do that even straight out of the box, so it's not a custom ROM issue.
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Hi,
I've been on Stock ROMs for some time. Last time I've tried a Custom ROM was a few years back on my new (back then) HTC Sensation.
Now I've changed my Galaxy S4 16GB to Galaxy S4 32GB, and (as it was a phone with different CSC than I wanted) changed CSC code to XEO. After that I've noticed that the KNOX flag has changed to 0x1, so I've read about it (a bit too late) and got to know what it means.
So after about 30min of having the new phone I was without warranty.
Now I'm looking at the Custom ROM possibilities.
Last time I've tried those, then every time that there was an update to those ROMs, one had to flash it manually and then do a wipe (this was very annoying, and because of that I've returned to Stock ROMs with OTA updates after which I didn't have to wipe the phone).
It would be if someone could tell me if that has changed ? (eg. Custom ROMs with something like OTA updates, that use a small update file and update only what is needed, or any other updates that don't involve phone wipes).
I'd like to get a Custom ROM that is practically the same as the Stock ROM, but has the bloatware removed (or an option to do so). The ROM should be rooted (thou I haven't used any apps that require root in a long time, so that is not a must have). But it must have a way of updating without phone wipe (I realize that I'll have to wipe when going from Stock to Custom ROM).
And is there a straight forward how to for going from official Stock I9505XXUDMH6 to a Custom ROM ?
Thank you in advance for any help.
Check the stickies, the development forum, the original development forum, and anywhere on XDA just do a search, far quicker than posting a new thread.
Hi all,
First of all I'm sorry if this isn't the right place for this thread, it just seems like the related threads are in this forum.
First of all I have the international unbranded version of the note three (SM-N9005), which I rooted in order to use VPN. I did this using the chainfire method which of course tripped the knox flag, I'm not griping about that because I don't really care about the warranty, just giving facts.
This then prevents the phone from checking for updates properly saying "device has been modified" or something like that.
I'm on three ireland and they very recently switched on 4g/lte network support but you need to accept an ota update to enable it. Therein lies my problem, I can't accept an ota update.
I would have no problem unrooting to accept an update, but that doesn't reset the knox flag and my phone will still show up as modified and considering the amount of effort I would have to go through to unroot just to end up on the same situation as I'm in already is not worth it.
I have tried the viaero 4g toggle app but this just gives a black screen for me. I also tried the persist.radio.lteon.xml fix but I couldn't find that file to change the setting. These solutions suggested here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2468624&page=2
So my questions:
Is there any way to flash some sort of firmware unofficially to give lte support?
If I flashed a custom rom would that give me lte support? Or do I need to flash the official 3 Ireland lte firmware first?
If that will work, can anyone recommend a rom to install?
Finally has anyone managed to get themselves out of a similar situation yet?
Hope somebody can help,
Thanks for reading
Barry
bazzertron said:
Hi all,
First of all I'm sorry if this isn't the right place for this thread, it just seems like the related threads are in this forum.
First of all I have the international unbranded version of the note three (SM-N9005), which I rooted in order to use VPN. I did this using the chainfire method which of course tripped the knox flag, I'm not griping about that because I don't really care about the warranty, just giving facts.
This then prevents the phone from checking for updates properly saying "device has been modified" or something like that.
I'm on three ireland and they very recently switched on 4g/lte network support but you need to accept an ota update to enable it. Therein lies my problem, I can't accept an ota update.
I would have no problem unrooting to accept an update, but that doesn't reset the knox flag and my phone will still show up as modified and considering the amount of effort I would have to go through to unroot just to end up on the same situation as I'm in already is not worth it.
I have tried the viaero 4g toggle app but this just gives a black screen for me. I also tried the persist.radio.lteon.xml fix but I couldn't find that file to change the setting. These solutions suggested here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2468624&page=2
So my questions:
Is there any way to flash some sort of firmware unofficially to give lte support?
If I flashed a custom rom would that give me lte support? Or do I need to flash the official 3 Ireland lte firmware first?
If that will work, can anyone recommend a rom to install?
Finally has anyone managed to get themselves out of a similar situation yet?
Hope somebody can help,
Thanks for reading
Barry
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If you reflash back to complete Stock your status will show Official, also you can try a custom ROM, ALL of them are capable of getting LTE by default. I have no issues with them.
radicalisto said:
If you reflash back to complete Stock your status will show Official, also you can try a custom ROM, ALL of them are capable of getting LTE by default. I have no issues with them.
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Thanks for the quick reply radicalisto, to be honest I'm ready to move away from touchwiz so a custom ROM sounds like a good solution to me. Choosing one is the conundrum. Are any of them more stable/full featured than the rest? I would appreciate any advice about a ROM to choose.
Well to be honest, custom ROMs are trial and error, but the new Kitkat ROMs are awesome, I personally tried them all and have settled on one (won't say which cause it may sway you haha) - however these are TW based ROMs.
If you are on 4.3 still and fancy CM11 -- Two ROMs you should try are temasek's CM11 + Yank555's kernel (amazing pal) - Or ProBAM with Yank555's kernel (Just as good as temasek's) both are packed with great features, awesome battery life and generally just great. However you may or may not know, CM doesn't support SPen functions, you'd have to use GMDSPen or another alternative.
EDIT: Little side note, again not sure if you are aware.. if you flash Kitkat 4.4.2 your bootloader upgrades so you cannot use CM, as it runs on 4.3's bootloader, there is no downgrade option either currently.
Not that I'm so concerned about the CM bootloader using 4.3, but would I be safe in assuming that the CM team will have to eventually switch to the 4.4 bootloader?
radicalisto said:
Well to be honest, custom ROMs are trial and error, but the new Kitkat ROMs are awesome, I personally tried them all and have settled on one (won't say which cause it may sway you haha) - however these are TW based ROMs.
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Well you're allowed to tell me as I was asking to be swayed...
I'm thinking I'm going to try x-note first as it seems to be the most popular and I'm guessing it's that way for a reason.
Yeah CM team are working on it now from what I have read, I'm using X-Note V.8 with CivZ KatEngine 2.0 kernel
So I've seen a lot of threads with links to the stock S5 (or modded for compatibility) apps ported to the S4. I would absolutely love to have the newer experience on my current S4. I know there is some things that can't be replicated but it appears that all the things I'd like to change are indeed available. Other than removing bloatware, getting these apps to replace the ones I have is the only reason I even consider rooting my device at the moment. But I seriously need more information before I begin this process. Also, it appears that the S4 will eventually get not only these new features in the near future but will also receive Android L.
What I want to do:
Replace all my stock apps including the launcher and etc. with the port versions from the S5.
Questions I have:
Has anyone else done this successfully?
Does everything function as intended?
Will this work on a stock rooted ROM?
If I screw up or decide otherwise, will I be able to revert the device back to stock completely(I normally use Odin+files to return it to the NB1 state)?
If the S4 gets the rumored update(mentioned above), will I be able Will I be able to revert back to stock (Above) in order to update and get these items in the official manner?
Thanks again for all the help. Need as much information as I can get as soon as possible.
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Over 78 views and not a single reply? I could really use the information here guys. I haven't been able to find much information on how to go about doing this. Tried searching on my own and was unable to get anywhere so this is sort of a last resort/hope for me on this matter.
shipwrexx said:
So I've seen a lot of threads with links to the stock S5 (or modded for compatibility) apps ported to the S4. I would absolutely love to have the newer experience on my current S4. I know there is some things that can't be replicated but it appears that all the things I'd like to change are indeed available. Other than removing bloatware, getting these apps to replace the ones I have is the only reason I even consider rooting my device at the moment. But I seriously need more information before I begin this process. Also, it appears that the S4 will eventually get not only these new features in the near future but will also receive Android L.
What I want to do:
Replace all my stock apps including the launcher and etc. with the port versions from the S5.
Questions I have:
Has anyone else done this successfully?
Does everything function as intended?
Will this work on a stock rooted ROM?
If I screw up or decide otherwise, will I be able to revert the device back to stock completely(I normally use Odin+files to return it to the NB1 state)?
If the S4 gets the rumored update(mentioned above), will I be able Will I be able to revert back to stock (Above) in order to update and get these items in the official manner?
Thanks again for all the help. Need as much information as I can get as soon as possible.
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I know there is a ROM called Echoe ROM that is supposed to be the S5 ported to the S4, but I haven't messed with it any. From what I saw of ZedoMax's youtube video, it seems that everything is functioning fine. You will have to have a rooted phone with either custom recovery (MDL firmware is the only s4 firmware that allows custom recovery to be installed) or safe strap recovery to boot the echoe ROM.
You should be able to ODIN back to stock if anything acts up, however I am not 100% on this. If you want to revert back to stock for the Android L update, I suggest making a Nandroid backup of your stock ROM so you can restore the backup later to fetch the update after unrooting.
Note in order to update you need to be 100% stock unrooted with no bloatware removed. The s4 is picky about ODIN. Some firmwares you can downgrade to an older firmware, other firmwares won't let you and you risk bricking. Hope this helped.
Good evening to everyone,
I've been an Android user for the last 4 years (i started with the HTC Dream G1, the first ever made Android smartphone which had the version 1.1). The first time i approached the world of modding was for having really important features such as the sync of contacts with google account, and i also have fully modded my second device, an HTC One S, that i decided to change 2 days ago.
I purchased a Samsung Galaxy A5 and i'm going to mod it again since i don't like few things about the device.
Since i'm out of date with the current mod envirorment (the last time i did some kind of mod with my One S was over 1 year ago) i think i need a bit of refresh, so here are my questions:
1) Do i need to install some kind of special drivers, android developing tool, sdk, java things or anything special before using Odin or other rooting tools mentioned in the guides? I remember i lost an entire day the first time i rooted my devices since all the guides on the web didn't talk about installing this preliminary files.
2) I'm Italian, i live in Italy, i purchased my device in Italy too in a Vodafone store, but the CSC of my device does not appear to be Italian Vodafone, i can't rewrite it here at the moment but after a research on google i found out it was a German Vodafone CSC.
The firmware itself does not seem branded (no custom bootload animation, only the main app by vodafone which i like to have) and i'm going to change firmware anyway, but i still want to set a no-brand CSC.
When i changed the CSC of my HTC One S i remember it as a very complicated procedure, i had to extract a particular file from the smartphone using prompt's command, manually editing a text file and putting it back again with prompt.
I'd like to know if there's a different procedure for the Galaxy A5, i searched the web for a procedure but i have found none.
I saw a CSC option in Odin and i think this is probably the cleanest and fastest way, but i don't know a place where to find the various file for changing CSC.
3) Custom recovery: i had difficulties in finding custom recovery on the web too for this device, i saw a thread in this section fo the Galaxy A7. I suppose there's no custom recovery for the A5 at the moment, am i correct?
4) Any way to prevent Samsung Knox counter from increasing with root + flash of custom rom and eventually recovery? i read few guides but they seem to don't work anymore with recents updates.
Knowing if there's a way to reverse the counter in case of need it's ok too, but i've read that's much harder now than it was few years back, so i can suppose that maybe "Prevention is better than cure".
5) Are there any really really valid custom kernel / radio? I think i'm going to flash the CyanogenMod 12.1 but maybe there's some other flashable thing which is not included in this rom that can improve my devices.
6) after you've told me exactly what i can do know with my devices, could you please tell me the order for the various phases? I don't mean the very single steps, just if i have to change the CSC before or after than rooting or flashing the custom recovery before i have obtained the SU permissions ecc.
Thank you in advance for all your help, Italian forum are not very crowded in these days so i decided to write a thread in the best forum for this subject around the web!
Dharmost said:
Good evening to everyone,
3) Custom recovery: i had difficulties in finding custom recovery on the web too for this device, i saw a thread in this section fo the Galaxy A7. I suppose there's no custom recovery for the A5 at the moment, am i correct?
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For recovery have a look here.
Dharmost said:
4) Any way to prevent Samsung Knox counter from increasing with root + flash of custom rom and eventually recovery? i read few guides but they seem to don't work anymore with recents updates.
Knowing if there's a way to reverse the counter in case of need it's ok too, but i've read that's much harder now than it was few years back, so i can suppose that maybe "Prevention is better than cure".
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As far as i know that is not possible at the moment
Dharmost said:
5) Are there any really really valid custom kernel / radio? I think i'm going to flash the CyanogenMod 12.1 but maybe there's some other flashable thing which is not included in this rom that can improve my devices.
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Here is a link for CM 12.1 for the A5 Sm-A500FU version
Good Luck
Jay
Thank you very much for the answers! I'm probably going to mod my device this evening, hope it will go smooth
Hi guys, Newbie to forum and rooting here! I own a Galaxy S4 i9505 android version 4.3 and want it to upgrade to a higher, better and stable version. I've been doing a lot of research and found that the latest 6.0.1 gives issues with wifi on s4! I always wanted to root my phone but never did but since pokemon go doesn't run on 4.3 I'm glad that I'm forced to root it ! So, which is the best ROM and android version that I should upgrade my phone to that'll not show any bugs or issues! I don't care if the android version's not latest..I own only one phone! Just want to run pokemon go and exploit some features that rooting will provide! Thanks for help~
There aren't any ROMs that are 100% bug free. Even Samsung ROMs have bugs.
Also, the matter of "which ROM is better" is subjective.
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There aren't any ROMs that are 100% bug free. Even Samsung ROMs have bugs.
Also, the matter of "which ROM is better" is subjective.
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Hey thanks for the reply! I'm aware that no ROM maybe 100% bug free but maybe there are some which have insignificant bugs?? and also perhaps the older ROMs..say the ones with android 5.0.x maybe so because of more updates? In that regard, I would really like if you would recommend one such ROM to your knowledge! Thanks!
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Hey thanks for the reply! I'm aware that no ROM maybe 100% bug free but maybe there are some which have insignificant bugs?? and also perhaps the older ROMs..say the ones with android 5.0.x maybe so because of more updates? In that regard, I would really like if you would recommend one such ROM to your knowledge! Thanks!
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The Google Play Edition ROM has always been working well for me.
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Me, ive come from many years of custom ROMs on my S2, and due to all the issues with CM13 which was the last ROM i ran on it, i retired the S2 the other day and got a cheap second hand S4, and i have to say after all the drama of custom CM13 on the S2, i am actually enjoying the stock 5.01 LP ROM on the S4. All ive done is run CF Auto Root and then run this debloat app on it Until i do enough research on what a good custom ROM to install, im just going to stick with the stock 5.0.1...
Stock 5.01 is available here at sammobile
It should be enough of an upgrade over 4.3, plus you should probably flash this at least once before going to a custom ROM anyways...for reasons i wont bore you with
You can try this first up as an alternate to sammobile.com (because they limit your speed):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/general/tool-samfirm-samsung-firmware-t2988647
This backdoors a fast download from Sammobile...much faster
I just got it to finally work to download my ROM!
Or if you try the main sammobile.com website
If you choose to go this route, pick your country, and if you want an unbranded, no carrier bloat version, pick the one form your country with no carrier name after it in brackets, i.e. pick the one with just the 3 letter region code in brackets after it. Note: its about 1.4Gb to download, and unlike the old days sammobile will make it fricking painful to get without paying them...they throttle the download. Im on my 8th go trying to get my ROM, every time it fails you have to restart, so they soak up your data allowance the bastards, but theres nowhere else i know of to get my ROM
Or another alternate:
http://fw.updato.com/
Ok so I've decided to flash this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...om-untouched-google-play-edition-5-1-t3198177
But I'm getting confused between the meanings of rooting and flashing ROM. Do I need to "root" my phone (I would use Super SU) before flashing it? Because I'm following this tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDlV3plfnVA
and his recovery screen looks different than mine. Apparently, he's using clockworkMod CWM but how do I do that? So, if I root my phone first then will my recover screen look similar to his? It's confusing! Please help!
Like i said id flash a stock ROM first before going custom....GPE still counts as a custom ROM
Be sure to read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67514801&postcount=1380 and more than just the front page of any ROM, this one has a few issues, i assume fixed.....
As for recovery, you should forget about Phliz (it can have issues with newer ROM's) and use TWRP instead (i used to hate TWRP, but CWM based recoveries seemingly arent being updated to fix issues lately)
I did a quick post about installing it (and fixing a potential niggle) here earlier: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67769031&postcount=6