Hi,
I've been on Stock ROMs for some time. Last time I've tried a Custom ROM was a few years back on my new (back then) HTC Sensation.
Now I've changed my Galaxy S4 16GB to Galaxy S4 32GB, and (as it was a phone with different CSC than I wanted) changed CSC code to XEO. After that I've noticed that the KNOX flag has changed to 0x1, so I've read about it (a bit too late) and got to know what it means.
So after about 30min of having the new phone I was without warranty.
Now I'm looking at the Custom ROM possibilities.
Last time I've tried those, then every time that there was an update to those ROMs, one had to flash it manually and then do a wipe (this was very annoying, and because of that I've returned to Stock ROMs with OTA updates after which I didn't have to wipe the phone).
It would be if someone could tell me if that has changed ? (eg. Custom ROMs with something like OTA updates, that use a small update file and update only what is needed, or any other updates that don't involve phone wipes).
I'd like to get a Custom ROM that is practically the same as the Stock ROM, but has the bloatware removed (or an option to do so). The ROM should be rooted (thou I haven't used any apps that require root in a long time, so that is not a must have). But it must have a way of updating without phone wipe (I realize that I'll have to wipe when going from Stock to Custom ROM).
And is there a straight forward how to for going from official Stock I9505XXUDMH6 to a Custom ROM ?
Thank you in advance for any help.
Check the stickies, the development forum, the original development forum, and anywhere on XDA just do a search, far quicker than posting a new thread.
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Sorry for the noob question, but Im a long term Blackberry user just switched to the N1...
Question about rooting. If I root the N1, understanding that once you root you can not "unroot", if I use a custom Rom but prefer to go back to the factory one, is that possible, or how do I do so ? also,
On custom Roms like Cyangen, can one still download updates from Google ? (ex. version 2.xxx with flash when it comes out) ?
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You can unroot, you just can't relock your bootloader ATM.
Do a search in the development section and you'll find posts about how to flash everything back to stock. The only difference is you'll always have that little unlocked padlock at the bottom of your boot screen.
Typically you don't see updates from Google with a modded firmware, but you see updates from the ROM developer all the time.
Cool, thanks for the info...
So once rooted, if I do want to return to factory settings, I would just install the HTC N1 Rom as if I installed any other Rom, and everything would be back to factory ( except for bootloader ), enabling me to get OTA updates, etc...
I've heard with custom Rom's, people have had trouble with 3G or network/radio issues, and being in Canada, little nervous about that since the N1 was just released here.
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I don't know about all that in Canada, but you're best bet is to try the various ROM's (Cyanogenmod preferred), and then test different radios with those ROM's. It'll give you a better opportunity to find a radio that works for you in your area, considering there hasn't been an official radio update released through Google's channels.
I'm pretty new to all this too but to get OTA updates again, from google, I think you need the stock recovery too (ie: not Amon_Ra recovery).
i do miss the iphone for that reason press restore in itunes and its back to as it was out of the box ,this baby is a lot more tricky
I don't mean to turn this into an iPhone comparison thread so please don't take my comment as such, but NOT being forced to used iTunes to handle everything is much preferred for me, even if things aren't as straightforward. That said, as someone who obviously doesn't use iTunes, doing anything with the Nexus One wasn't as difficult because I didn't need to install any alternative media software just to get the phone working.
Finally about to take the plunge and root...Question is where do I find the factory N1 Rom ( stock Rom ) if I decide to switch back ( maybe when flash is released ).
Also, read that you can back up your existing Rom during the root process...Is the back-up a secondary app to install or included in the .zip packages that are needed to root ? how is the back-up done ?
thanks
SmokinSteveO said:
Finally about to take the plunge and root...Question is where do I find the factory N1 Rom ( stock Rom ) if I decide to switch back ( maybe when flash is released ).
Also, read that you can back up your existing Rom during the root process...Is the back-up a secondary app to install or included in the .zip packages that are needed to root ? how is the back-up done ?
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You seem to only want flash - you do know, that features presented in OTA releases usually make their way into custom ROMS before or a few hours (at least a day) after the OTA. Himem (the ability to use all the RAM) is already out in mostly all ROMS, way before Google is releasing it - along with trackball colors.
Really, you don't need to worry..
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You seem to only want flash - you do know, that features presented in OTA releases usually make their way into custom ROMS before or a few hours (at least a day) after the OTA. Himem (the ability to use all the RAM) is already out in mostly all ROMS, way before Google is releasing it - along with trackball colors.
Really, you don't need to worry..
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Well flash was just an example...my only concern is that I could be one of the
unlucky ones that experience problems after I root and install a Rom, so just the thought of having a stock Rom on hand is piece of mind.
Also, being in Canada on Rogers, just curious how my 3G ( radio ) will react to it.
I'm on Rogers too and still waiting to see if my phone is problem free before rooting. Let me know how it turns out when you take the plunge
I'm on Fido (essentially the same band/frequency as Rogers), Cyanogenmod 5.0.5.3 (latest version at this time), and I'm having no problems with the 3G connection whatsoever. No dropped calls, no switching to EDGE randomly or anything. Never flashed a different radio or anything.
I did have to manualy enter my APN info in order to get my data connection working, however (no biggie, just type in some info). I had to do that even straight out of the box, so it's not a custom ROM issue.
Hi all!
I've bought a new S4 (i9505) and fortunately I don't have knox on my device...
Now I'd like to install the last 4.3 GE and may be the CM 10.2 when in stable state.
My first question is: if I flash the recovery (CWM or ... ?) and then the GE and/or CM ROM the knox will not installed right? I'll only need Triangleaway app to reset counter?
Second: if I get trouble and I'll need to flash back to stock for warrenty, can I flash the actual stock ROM via kies and bypass the know problems?
Third: I saaw that there's not only one post for the GE ROM... where can I find the last standard GE release flashable via recovery?
Thanks!
You should read the forums more before you start doing anything. It will save you lots of trouble in the future. I know its a lot of information in this forum, but read read read before you start doing things to your expensive phone.
If you stay away from knox enabled stock roms, you will be fine. That is with stock roms that also flash bootloaders. My advice would be to stay away from flashing stock roms in general and look for a custom rom that suits your needs.
Don't use kies, but just use Odin if you want to get back to stock.
Lennyz1988 said:
You should read the forums more before you start doing anything. It will save you lots of trouble in the future. I know its a lot of information in this forum, but read read read before you start doing things to your expensive phone.
If you stay away from knox enabled stock roms, you will be fine. That is with stock roms that also flash bootloaders. My advice would be to stay away from flashing stock roms in general and look for a custom rom that suits your needs.
Don't use kies, but just use Odin if you want to get back to stock.
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Thanks! I've really appreciate your help!
I've read a lot of posts but is not simple to understand all and/or read all the messages, so apollogise if me and someane else write down a new post hoping someone point us to right thread.
Well... I've understood that ODIN is my friend and I'm downloading from sammobile my current stock ROM without knox so I'll be able to reflash stock ROM if necessary keeping my S4 far from knox.
Now.... someone con point me to the last 4.3 GE ROM because I still can't understand wich is the cleanest (similar to the real GE) and stable ROM to flash...
Thanks guys!
I THOUGHT what I wanted was simple enough but apparently with Samsung nothing is ever simple.
I have the i9505 S4 and am currently on the Pre-Rooted I9505XXUBMGA rom. That means 4.2.2, Stock Recovery and PRE-KNOX bootloader.
My custom flash counter is also 0 as I've only ever flashed the pre-rooted stock kind of roms. No triangle has ever appeared on my screen.
What I want to do is install a 4.3 TW rom WITHOUT flashing a custom recovery (so probably through Odin) and WITHOUT having to flash the KNOX-enabled bootloader.
The reasons should be obvious enough, I want this phone kept as close to stock as possible with what I do being completely reversible without having to rely on Triangle Away as with every new firmware Samsung appears to be even more hell-bent on breaking it.
Obviously I'd want said rom to actually function correctly as I've read things like sound and/or wifi breaking or mobile data dropping with/without the phone being on sleep etc...
So, any takers?
KeyperOS said:
I THOUGHT what I wanted was simple enough but apparently with Samsung nothing is ever simple.
I have the i9505 S4 and am currently on the Pre-Rooted I9505XXUBMGA rom. That means 4.2.2, Stock Recovery and PRE-KNOX bootloader.
My custom flash counter is also 0 as I've only ever flashed the pre-rooted stock kind of roms. No triangle has ever appeared on my screen.
What I want to do is install a 4.3 TW rom WITHOUT flashing a custom recovery (so probably through Odin) and WITHOUT having to flash the KNOX-enabled bootloader.
The reasons should be obvious enough, I want this phone kept as close to stock as possible with what I do being completely reversible without having to rely on Triangle Away as with every new firmware Samsung appears to be even more hell-bent on breaking it.
Obviously I'd want said rom to actually function correctly as I've read things like sound and/or wifi breaking or mobile data dropping with/without the phone being on sleep etc...
So, any takers?
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Hi,
From where I am,I can see 3 options.
1.Stay where you are on 4.2.2
You just need to flash stock firmware ,and you are back to out-of-the-box state.
But....you want 4.3.... so,
2.Flash a custom recovery,and you have the choice of every custom ROM in the DEV section.4.22,4.3 ,TW,AOSP , you get my drift.As long at it does not contain the new knox bootloader,you can get back to out-of-the-box state in 2 easy steps:
Triangle Away.
Flash stock firmware.
3.Try to flash the new knox-pox 4.3 ROM and be stuck there.(because there is no coming back)
Look HERE
The [OP] explains it well.
And this is probably the ROM you would choose.(close to stock)
It seems the samsung is determined to mess things up for the user who wants to easily mod their own phones.
It has gotten so bad,that the [OP] has even jumped ship to the Z1.
He says he will maintain that ROM,but for how long,because they have already moved the goalposts twice...
I am on 2.
And I intend to stay there,because I like to be in charge of what goes on my phone.
Devs will almost certainly maintain their ROMS,and updates like 4.4 will come along in time.
Only you can make the choice.
Hopefully,I have given you some options.
Yeah, that's the thread I flashed my current 4.2.2 rom from. I saw him throw the towel and decided this just wasn't gonna work.
I guess I need to take the plunge and install Philz recovery.
Somewhat subjective I know but, which 4.3 TW custom ROM seems to work best when the OLD Pre-KNOX bootloader is being kept and with which modem? (I've seem answers vary wildly on this one).
KeyperOS said:
Yeah, that's the thread I flashed my current 4.2.2 rom from. I saw him throw the towel and decided this just wasn't gonna work.
I guess I need to take the plunge and install Philz recovery.
Somewhat subjective I know but, which 4.3 TW custom ROM seems to work best when the OLD Pre-KNOX bootloader is being kept and with which modem? (I've seem answers vary wildly on this one).
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Hi,
The reason you have seen such wild variations on this,is because it is so subjective.
This is where the fun begins.
Trying out different ROMS,and seeing which is best suited to you,and your requirements.
Best advice...read the first post of a ROM,and see if it has what you want from a ROM...especially the bit about new knox bootloader removed.
And remember to make a nandroid!
As for modem,if you are having no issues or signal problems at the moment,stick with the one you are on.
Hello all, and please help me with some small details before rooting.
I have an LG G2 with stock KITKAT 4.4.2., baseband M8974A-1.0.190084,kernel 3.4.0., build D80220b, software D80220b-219-02.
My questions
- do I need to upgrade stock firmware to D802d or D802f before rooting, and if yes wich is more stable
- is a SIM card needed (as inserted in the phone) for rooting process
- do I need to unlock the phone before rooting since it is locked with my local carrier (TELE 2 HR)
- does a custom ROM automaticly eliminate OTA upgrade and so prevent from bricking, or it must be unchecked manualy
- when installing a custom ROM (probably Cludy G3) do I need to flash a new custom kernel or it doesent mater (probably Bruce if it is compatibile)
- how does one check for compatibility ROM - kernel, is it just simple as finding "stock ROM" - "stock kernel" in the title
- do I need to instal a new KK baseband before custom ROM since I am allready on KITKAT
- do I need to do any kind of factory reset and/or wipe before rooting or later instaling a custom ROM
Thank you very much in advance, I have been searching all over for this simple answers but couldnt find any,
Sorry if the questions are too noobish but I am afraid tostart anything before I find the answers
tomarin said:
Hello all, and please help me with some small details before rooting.
I have an LG G2 with stock KITKAT 4.4.2., baseband M8974A-1.0.190084,kernel 3.4.0., build D80220b, software D80220b-219-02.
My questions
- do I need to upgrade stock firmware to D802d or D802f before rooting, and if yes wich is more stable
- is a SIM card needed (as inserted in the phone) for rooting process
- do I need to unlock the phone before rooting since it is locked with my local carrier (TELE 2 HR)
- does a custom ROM automaticly eliminate OTA upgrade and so prevent from bricking, or it must be unchecked manualy
- when installing a custom ROM (probably Cludy G3) do I need to flash a new custom kernel or it doesent mater (probably Bruce if it is compatibile)
- how does one check for compatibility ROM - kernel, is it just simple as finding "stock ROM" - "stock kernel" in the title
- do I need to instal a new KK baseband before custom ROM since I am allready on KITKAT
- do I need to do any kind of factory reset and/or wipe before rooting or later instaling a custom ROM
Thank you very much in advance, I have been searching all over for this simple answers but couldnt find any,
Sorry if the questions are too noobish but I am afraid tostart anything before I find the answers
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1. You don't have to upgrade because you can use rooter that is compatible with your current firmware build, the differences between the firmware are only on their features, with less case of minor problem solved from previous build.
2. No, you don't need to put your SIM on.
3. Custom ROMs are meant to give you better performance of the current build, especially if it is Stock Based Custom ROM. Why you shouldn't update via OTA? because with several changes in the custom ROM, Official build will find it different from its official release, which would cause errors that could ended up with bootloop, even worse.. Hopefully, several developers also have their own OTA feature so people can easily get the update.
4. It doesn't matter since Custom ROMs sometimes come with their own suggested kernel that fit with the ROM. But you can also try other kernels if it suits you.
5. Yes, it is quite that simple, but also try to find out whether it is compatible or not with the ROM.
6. No, if you already on KitKat, you don't need to flash KK baseband.
7. Only when you are about to flashing new ROM..
Rei Zazie said:
1. You don't have to upgrade because you can use rooter that is compatible with your current firmware build, the differences between the firmware are only on their features, with less case of minor problem solved from previous build.
2. No, you don't need to put your SIM on.
3. Custom ROMs are meant to give you better performance of the current build, especially if it is Stock Based Custom ROM. Why you shouldn't update via OTA? because with several changes in the custom ROM, Official build will find it different from its official release, which would cause errors that could ended up with bootloop, even worse.. Hopefully, several developers also have their own OTA feature so people can easily get the update.
4. It doesn't matter since Custom ROMs sometimes come with their own suggested kernel that fit with the ROM. But you can also try other kernels if it suits you.
5. Yes, it is quite that simple, but also try to find out whether it is compatible or not with the ROM.
6. No, if you already on KitKat, you don't need to flash KK baseband.
7. Only when you are about to flashing new ROM..
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Thank you very much for your detailed answers !! :good::good:
Good evening to everyone,
I've been an Android user for the last 4 years (i started with the HTC Dream G1, the first ever made Android smartphone which had the version 1.1). The first time i approached the world of modding was for having really important features such as the sync of contacts with google account, and i also have fully modded my second device, an HTC One S, that i decided to change 2 days ago.
I purchased a Samsung Galaxy A5 and i'm going to mod it again since i don't like few things about the device.
Since i'm out of date with the current mod envirorment (the last time i did some kind of mod with my One S was over 1 year ago) i think i need a bit of refresh, so here are my questions:
1) Do i need to install some kind of special drivers, android developing tool, sdk, java things or anything special before using Odin or other rooting tools mentioned in the guides? I remember i lost an entire day the first time i rooted my devices since all the guides on the web didn't talk about installing this preliminary files.
2) I'm Italian, i live in Italy, i purchased my device in Italy too in a Vodafone store, but the CSC of my device does not appear to be Italian Vodafone, i can't rewrite it here at the moment but after a research on google i found out it was a German Vodafone CSC.
The firmware itself does not seem branded (no custom bootload animation, only the main app by vodafone which i like to have) and i'm going to change firmware anyway, but i still want to set a no-brand CSC.
When i changed the CSC of my HTC One S i remember it as a very complicated procedure, i had to extract a particular file from the smartphone using prompt's command, manually editing a text file and putting it back again with prompt.
I'd like to know if there's a different procedure for the Galaxy A5, i searched the web for a procedure but i have found none.
I saw a CSC option in Odin and i think this is probably the cleanest and fastest way, but i don't know a place where to find the various file for changing CSC.
3) Custom recovery: i had difficulties in finding custom recovery on the web too for this device, i saw a thread in this section fo the Galaxy A7. I suppose there's no custom recovery for the A5 at the moment, am i correct?
4) Any way to prevent Samsung Knox counter from increasing with root + flash of custom rom and eventually recovery? i read few guides but they seem to don't work anymore with recents updates.
Knowing if there's a way to reverse the counter in case of need it's ok too, but i've read that's much harder now than it was few years back, so i can suppose that maybe "Prevention is better than cure".
5) Are there any really really valid custom kernel / radio? I think i'm going to flash the CyanogenMod 12.1 but maybe there's some other flashable thing which is not included in this rom that can improve my devices.
6) after you've told me exactly what i can do know with my devices, could you please tell me the order for the various phases? I don't mean the very single steps, just if i have to change the CSC before or after than rooting or flashing the custom recovery before i have obtained the SU permissions ecc.
Thank you in advance for all your help, Italian forum are not very crowded in these days so i decided to write a thread in the best forum for this subject around the web!
Dharmost said:
Good evening to everyone,
3) Custom recovery: i had difficulties in finding custom recovery on the web too for this device, i saw a thread in this section fo the Galaxy A7. I suppose there's no custom recovery for the A5 at the moment, am i correct?
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For recovery have a look here.
Dharmost said:
4) Any way to prevent Samsung Knox counter from increasing with root + flash of custom rom and eventually recovery? i read few guides but they seem to don't work anymore with recents updates.
Knowing if there's a way to reverse the counter in case of need it's ok too, but i've read that's much harder now than it was few years back, so i can suppose that maybe "Prevention is better than cure".
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As far as i know that is not possible at the moment
Dharmost said:
5) Are there any really really valid custom kernel / radio? I think i'm going to flash the CyanogenMod 12.1 but maybe there's some other flashable thing which is not included in this rom that can improve my devices.
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Here is a link for CM 12.1 for the A5 Sm-A500FU version
Good Luck
Jay
Thank you very much for the answers! I'm probably going to mod my device this evening, hope it will go smooth