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Hi guys,
I'm new to Samsung phone sincerely. I'm coming from HTC lines and currently decided to move on to Samsung's. As far as my budget concerns, I'm capable of buying either Galaxy S i9000 (rm12xx), Nexus S i9023 (rm12xx) and Galaxy S PLUS i9001 (rm13xx). So comparing to these phones, which one seems the best to be grabbed? both Galaxy S runs on S-Amoled screens while Nexus S only on S-LCD (amoled is not available in my country). In term of long term planning, does Galaxy S hardware technology can support more than Gingerbread? As for i9001 which pre-installed with Gingerbread, does this also capable to port more than Gingerbread generation?
ps: hope someone will welcome me here.
Thanks.
Hi,
From these phones I'd choose the Nexus or the i9000.
Why?
Nexus -> Google-Updates. But LCD? Why don't you order a Nexus with SAMOLED from another country?
i9000 -> good phone, thousands of custom-ROMs
S+ : no custom ROMs. It runs with 1.4GHz, but you can overclock the i9000
Nobody here can say if Ice Cream Sandwich will be released for the SGS officially. But CM7 will bring it to us I think.
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Galaxy s is a good phone, and now it has a CM7 stable, that make it really good.
Nexus s probably would be better because of Google updates, but if it has LCD and not SAMOLED, maybe I would choose SGS.
I just converted from HTC to SGS, and man this phone with Darkys 10.1 extreme rom + lagfix is just so much win... id go for the SGS
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Only down for the SGS is the GPS.
It can be easely used for tracking and going around, but the thing is kind of a gamgle when it comes to tracking (sports related) or anything precise.
But, in the other hand, is there any phone that can be as precise as what some of us need... I'd be curious to try the Nexus S and compare tracks.
BTW: I totaly love the SGS, woudln't trade it for anything! That's why I got an Zephyr HxM
Nexus S used to be a better choice before. However, the dev community in NS is very low in comparison to SGS. That would be my main reason why I'd go for SGS. However, having said that, NS seems to get better "quadrant" scores but I don't know whether there's much difference really.
We got Sammy ROMs, MIUI, CM7, Sense 3.0 comming up as well. Good choice imo no?
I think if you dig somewhere around here there was a comparison between the 2.
Like someone said the Nexus S is really a step down from the SGS. Also the GPS chip should be the same so it should suffer from the same issues with GPS.
The other factors are the use of LCD rather than Amolder, no SD card slot, thicker (although this is a bit of a plus for me), no front camera, no radio (AOSP Issue), no other roms except AOSP based which makes the camera use only SD (no HD recording).
I have to say the SGS with CM7 is a completely different phone. I am using Miui
US at the moment but CM7 makes really the phone fly (and I am no fanboy).
I had a quick play with SGS2 and althogh I spend only a couple of minutes on it it felt a bit slower on the interface than the SGS with CM7. I have to admit that I think this is due to launcherpor though.
K.
jay_993 said:
Nexus S used to be a better choice before. However, the dev community in NS is very low in comparison to SGS. That would be my main reason why I'd go for SGS. However, having said that, NS seems to get better "quadrant" scores but I don't know whether there's much difference really.
We got Sammy ROMs, MIUI, CM7, Sense 3.0 comming up as well. Good choice imo no?
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Hi, i guess u are right, u'll tend to get lost here inside Galaxy S' forum as there are too much roms to choose for, compare to Nexus S. However, it also has proven that the quality over Nexus S' roms seems undeniable also. You can try to check this link http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/ to see how their custom roms and kernel would affect their permormance and increase their quadrant score up to 4k+. Amazing thing, i guess
There's also rumors that Nexus S will get Ice Cream Candy UI, which is not confirmed for Galaxy S. By the way, the main issue came afterwards as I cant get the S-amoled display for Nexus S, which sounds a lose. So, either the future updates vs screen capabilities become either to be chosen for!
As for Galaxy S PLUS, this has been confusing me as well. Even someone keeps on mentioning that GS PLUS is just the overclocked version of SGS, for me it was totally different things especially for future investment, as it uses different board, different processor (Snapdragon) and different GPU (Adreno 205). Furthermore, it comes with Gingerbread on stock, which show that there's possibilities that this phone can port 2.4 and above!
Nah..talked too much, but yet, still confuse
Mate, get a SGS and you will be very happy with it. I did a silly thing that sold my SGS and jumped to NS. Trust me, I missed my SGS so much that I was back on it within 2 weeks (had to buy a new one as I had sold my old one. Silly me). If you go to Nexus S forums -> General, look for a thread Nexus S after Galaxy S but.., or Nexus S - your impressions. You will find many people who would agree. There are many things in SGS to love over NS.
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Hi Guys, I just bought a Galaxy Note (yay!)...I should have it by Friday. The reason for getting the Note was that my Galaxy Nexus presented signal drops and I had to keep it stock if I wanted solid signal, and well with the Nexus what's the point on having it stock?
Now I absolutely LOVE the Galaxy Nexus, it's the best phone I've had by far...and to tell you the truth I am a little sad to let it go, I love the fact that you can do almost whatever you want with it, it's easy to root, and to mod. I've read that there are some troubles flashing custom ROMs on the Note, but I'm pretty sure that I'll figure it out once I have the Note in my hand, or hands really.
So I wanted to know about experiences of you guys that made the switch from the Galaxy Nexus to the Galaxy Note, are you happy with it? do you miss stock ICS? How do you like Touchwiz?
Thanks!
i have both. i found samsung's gingerbread/touchwiz overlay intolerable so i barely used it for the firsy couple of months. was using the Gnex heavily. i couldn't bring myself to sell the Note becase of the magnificent screen, battery and camera - it had potential beyond each and every phone in the market combined.
Then along came CM9 for the Note and now i can't put it down. It's now has the best of everything - screen, battery life camera - and nothing in the market can come close to offering what it does. the overall experience with the screen really is on another level entirely.
The Gnex is going to be sold soon. The phone was good but the battery was an absoute joke. The Note (now with CM9) betters it in every possible way.
Omersak, can i ask you which Cyanogen ROM you are using, i can find a few in the development section.
And what is the + over an APK ROM ?
@TS
I have my note a few days now, i was doubting between nexus and note, the nexus looks amazing, but it has older and slower hardware.
The Note have great hardware, great screen, and the size is just perfect.
I rooted the Note the second day (reading the forums here all day does strange things with a man )
Um do you mean AOKP?
It stands for Android Open Kang Project
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/21583-what-is-aokp-and-features-list/
I can't explain it myself but found that link.
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CoopZor said:
I rooted the Note the second day (reading the forums here all day does strange things with a man )
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That's nothing, I rooted mine with cf root before even turning it on, it was literally the first thing I did .
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Atomix86 said:
That's nothing, I rooted mine with cf root before even turning it on, it was literally the first thing I did .
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LOL.... I was going to say I rooted mine on Day 1 within the first few minutes, but after reading your post I'll keep my mouth shut...
Re the OT's question:
I was using the Nexus 1 for almost 2 years, and jumped on the G Nexus first moment it came out. Loved it! Reading my Kindle books was now such an enjoyable experience with the 4.65" screen. Then I started becoming greedy. Why not an EVEN BIGGER screen?
After only about a week, I made up my mind to move to the Note (after many many pocketability tests in the store), and I've been in seventh heaven ever since. What I love about the Note:
- bigger screen (doh...)
- Removable SD!! This was a biggie - having a 32Gb SD card in addition to the 16Gb on board is FREEDOM! Very good for storing all those huge Nandroid backups!!!
- better battery life
- faster (sure, many ppl are skeptical about benchmarks, but 4700+ on Quadrant?!! )
I missed ICS initially, but Gingerbread (with CheckROM and Franco kernel) has been working tremendously well for me, and better (smoother and better battery) than all the ICS ROMs I had tried, including the stock rom that just came out.
Rocket ICS looks promising though, so just waiting for v2 before giving it another go.
Enjoy your Note - you'll never look back, for sure!
Now before I begin, I know there's already a TouchWiz tablet mode in the development forum based off of the the best qualities of the N7000 and the GTab 7.7 (both of which I own), and I've tried it already; it's very exciting development! However, as much as I like this tweak, and as cool as it is (credit given where it's due), wouldn't it be even better if we could simply port a stock Note 10.1 ROM directly to the N7000? I know that the N7000's hardware isn't anywhere near as impressive as the quad-core 2gb beast that the 10.1 is, but the screen resolution of both is the same, and the N7000 is no slouch in the performance department even 1 year on, so maybe it's worth a try?
As I mentioned, I own both the Galaxy Tab 7.7 and the N7000. I love both devices. However, I primarily use the 7.7 as my daily driver, mainly because I prefer the tablet interface of Android vs the phone layout used in the stock Note. Thus, my N7000 has sat on my desk, more often than not, as more of a test bed and frankly as more of a toy to use for playing around with all the ROM's that are out there for it (again, credit where it's due!). I've already played around with all the tablet mode options out there; everything from AOSP/AOKP in tablet mode, to the lovely Paranoid hybrid ROM, and so on. However, even then, not everything is as it should be. The S-Pen functionality is greatly reduced, accessories such as MHL output and USB OTG don't always work, and hardware accelerated video playback is usually spotty. In short, it always seems to come close, but it's never quite a perfect fit; there's always something missing.
By porting the Note 10.1's stock TouchWiz to our Note, perhaps that may bring the best of all worlds: a proper TouchWiz tablet UX, with full S-Pen functionality, and all other stock features working properly as they were designed, not to mention the hovering mini-apps for simple things like accessing the dialer, messaging, S-Planner, etc.
If I could have that kind of experience on my current Note, not only would I be disinclined even to get the Note 2, but I think I might just sell my 7.7 as well!! This, for me, would truly be the best of both worlds, which is exactly what Samsung originally intended for the Note when the débuted it at last year's IFA 2011. Having that now would give the N7000 a whole new lease on life; I'm not about to give up on it yet!
What do you guys think?
I was thinking the same
ME TOO )))
Hmm, good to know I wasn't alone! Now, if only we could get the attention of some interested developers! I'd do it myself if I had the know-how (and the free time!)
Please link the touchwiz tablet thread for note
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Please link the touchwiz tablet thread for note
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Here ya go!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1777500
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Seriously, the sooner can do this the better! Or teach me how, and I'll do it
What an awesome idea. I'd love to have something like LiquidBlack ROM but able to run S Planner which I love. And if the perfection of NoteCore kernel were included then it would make my Note into the phone it should have been back in November 2011 when I bought it!
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Now, the more visibility this thread can get to developers, the better!
You guys really?
It'll be completely irrelevant to port Note 10.1 ROM to OG Note.
Too small a text to work on, and simply stupid.
Please have a brain before requesting our developers such a dumb request.
id like it too A fully functioning stable TW tablet ROM.
Sounds cool !
since we got the note 2 and s3 UI and features, i think we have it all now with LRQ update
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since we got the note 2 and s3 UI and features, i think we have it all now with LRQ update
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Yeah, but the Note 2 and the S3 UI's are still all just PHONE features. The Note and the Note 2 are still just big phones with pens from a UI standpoint. While I'm not knocking that in and of itself (for many folks, retaining the phone UI on a large screen is preferable), I am pointing out that it still qualifies the Note(2) as just a really big phone, not a really small tablet.
All I'm lobbying for here is a proper TouchWiz option for the N7000 to be that really small tablet (with all the functionality and driver support of other TouchWiz builds) instead of a really big phone.
Some people prefer the phone UI, others the tablet UI. I don't want to sacrifice any functionality at all if I want to use a tablet UI out of preference. The same choice should be offered to everyone else too!
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You guys really?
It'll be completely irrelevant to port Note 10.1 ROM to OG Note.
Too small a text to work on, and simply stupid.
Please have a brain before requesting our developers such a dumb request.
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What would be a solution to have a ROM that you can connect in 160 dpi to your monitor with a MHL ?
As far as a I know aosp/aokp does not work, and stock devs managed to lower down to 240 max
Regards
Sounds like a really good idea, I hope some great dev make this possible.
The Note 10.1 has issues with multi-app performance (eg the apps aren't truly running simultaneously). Also, this is limited to only specific apps which can work multi-screen.
I don't really see what the benefit would be here. Plus doesn't it have more in common with the N7100 than the N7000?
Not much benefit for a ton of work which will likely be found useless upstream.
Also lately there have been very few dev projects for the Note 10.1 in general (take a look at their dev subforum)
This thread is aimed to help people like me who either own an Galaxy S2 I9100 or Galaxy S2 I9100G to compare and also to evaluate whether a switch to the other version would make sense.
My main problem is that I own an internation SGS2 which runs with the Exynos SoC but I kinda dislike stock Samsung crapware. The firmares out there are not as flexible and smooth as AOSP firmwares such as CM9.
Now the question is should I (or anyone with the same "problem") consider getting the G version of the SGS2.
There are several pros and cons on both sides:
I9100 International:
+Processor is faster than in G
+Display is slightly better (source: chip.de)
+Firmware gets updated on a regular basis
+Community is bigger
+...?
-Phone heats up more than the G (source: chip.de)
-Batterylife is worse than G (source: chip.de)
-Exynos closed source crap (hwcomposer broken on JB, memleaks, workarounds to make it work etc.....) <-- biggest downturn for devs to make the device make use of all its power!
-...?
I9100G:
+Batterylife is better (source: chip.de)
+No heating problems
+OMAP SoC <-- dev friendly (codeworkx recommendation: get a OMAP device the next time )
+All features the internation SGS2 has
+...?
-Smaller Community (a lot of ports but no "real" development - except cm9/10)
-Processor is weaker (source: chip.de)
-Display is worse (source: chip.de)
-....?
There is no way to get a Galaxy nexus, cause of lack of sdcard support.
The reason why I actually started thinking about this is that CM10 is already in nightly status and has working hwcomposer for the I9100G.
Questions to be answered
1. Is it worth to "downgrade"?
2. Which one is better for future?
3. Is Exynos so much better than OMAP in questions of performance?
4. Which one is smoother at the end and has an overall better AOSP experience?
other thread is more or less dead and this thread here is in consideration of Jelly Bean and CM10 for both versions.
This one here is to elaborate whether triple buffer and vsync and working hwcomposer (JB features working on G) make the cons of the G more or less obsolete. Its not only about the raw hardware info its about the user experience and the availability of future AOSP support.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1380262 If u had searched thr was no necessity of this thread
Prashanthme said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1380262 If u had searched thr was no necessity of this thread
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other thread is more or less dead and this thread here is in consideration of Jelly Bean and CM10 for both versions.
This one here is to elaborate whether triple buffer and vsync and working hwcomposer (JB features working on G) make the cons of the G more or less obsolete. Its not only about the raw hardware info its about the user experience and the availability of future AOSP support.
If N7000 get JB and we don't it's still possible for us (i9100) to get JB working, it's not as big difference in hardware as with i9300.
I would suggest N7000 for upgrade instead Galaxy Nexus. IMO i9100g "dev friendly SoC" is worth it, but I will stay with Exynos because performance. If you own either g or intl i9100 it's not worth changing, they seem to be same at all.
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If N7000 get JB and we don't it's still possible for us (i9100) to get JB working, it's not as big difference in hardware as with i9300.
I would suggest N7000 for upgrade instead Galaxy Nexus. IMO i9100g "dev friendly SoC" is worth it, but I will stay with Exynos because performance. If you own either g or intl i9100 it's not worth changing, they seem to be same at all.
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1) Can't understand question)
2) I think International
3) I haven't tested OMAP, but i9100 have good performance
4) Maybe both, but for i9100G easy make fully working AOSP rom.
Sorry for my bad english)
Previously I had G version but I got it replaced with non g
Now enjoying better S2
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I currently have a Nook HD+ running on Cyanogenmod 13 for sheet music and watching movies while travelling. The screen is fantastic but it's quite slow. For some time I've been looking for a faster and newer upgrade that supports Cyanogenmod as it means you can stay up to date with Android releases without relying on the manufacturer. Also, Cyanogenmod is much slimmer than most stock overlays (Touchwiz, I'm looking at you).
The 2016 Tab A 10.1 seems to fit the bill specs wise, but is there any likelihood at all we'll see Cyanogenmod on it? Even though my Nook HD+ is slow, it's usable and is still receiving Cyanogenmod updates (with potential Nougat CM14 in the offing). I wouldn't want to buy a Tab A only to be stuck on Marshmallow forever.
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I currently have a Nook HD+ running on Cyanogenmod 13 for sheet music and watching movies while travelling. The screen is fantastic but it's quite slow. For some time I've been looking for a faster and newer upgrade that supports Cyanogenmod as it means you can stay up to date with Android releases without relying on the manufacturer. Also, Cyanogenmod is much slimmer than most stock overlays (Touchwiz, I'm looking at you).
The 2016 Tab A 10.1 seems to fit the bill specs wise, but is there any likelihood at all we'll see Cyanogenmod on it? Even though my Nook HD+ is slow, it's usable and is still receiving Cyanogenmod updates (with potential Nougat CM14 in the offing). I wouldn't want to buy a Tab A only to be stuck on Marshmallow forever.
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There might not be a Cyanogenmod for your device particularly. But, somewhat there will, more than sure, be an Evervolv custom rom for your device. If you want someone to port it for you, it will take them about a year to two years for making the rom pretty much flawless. I have a Galaxy Tab A 8.0" Smoky Titanium XAR and it has not gotten Cyanogenmod yet, but there is an unofficial rom of Evervolv.
I just want to bump this up.
I really don't think there is any development going on whatsoever as far as AOSP based roms for the 580.
If there is someone at least looking into it, they should let us know. I would definitely try to be a tester and even donate
It's a shame, this tablet is really nice and snappy, but it does feel bogged down by TouchWiz.