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Galaxy s vs nexus s

Hello galaxy folks,i wanted to ask your opinion , if I should sell my galaxy s and buy a nexus s, because gradually the developers are moving on to the nexus s for android development, and other then the aesthetic appeal of nexus s it's pretty much the same as galaxy s, what do you guys think i should do? your replies would be appreciated
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agha123 said:
Hello galaxy folks,i wanted to ask your opinion , if I should sell my galaxy s and buy a nexus s, because gradually the developers are moving on to the nexus s for android development, and other then the aesthetic appeal of nexus s it's pretty much the same as galaxy s, what do you guys think i should do? your replies would be appreciated
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Nexus s is a step down in my opinion,
No fm radio
No micro sd slot
Gorilla glass is missing too... (even though i still use a phantomskinz screen protector anyway)
Also, my friend has a nexus s, it doesnt feel as good, and its april and he still doesnt have the 2.3.3 update.
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Also, my friend has a nexus s, it doesnt feel as good, and its april and he still doesnt have the 2.3.3 update
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Ahahaha
@OP No for sure not, and there is many threads like this here.
General public decided that Nexus S is not a better choice in no direction over the SGS.
Now its SGSI vs SGSII where there are advantages of SGSII much clearer but wouldnt make me to switch to it.
I change my phone when there is some improvement for me. <<< for me.
As the SGSI is pretty fast the SGSII has no real advantage for me (not playing games) and the design I have now I am happy with it. Also there comes the pain with new phone new software etc.
For me one and only deciding factor will be the screen resolution. (now the htc sensation)

Micro SD missing on ANY phone is an Automatic Dealbreaker for me. (I don't care if the phone can make me coffee in the morning, and have a pizza on the table when I come home)
Heck even some of my old Krusty RAZR Phones laying around have Micro SD support. I'm not gonna give that up just because some company wants to save a few bucks.
Galaxy S vs Galaxy S II will be the real debate this year. The only thing that concerns me about the Galaxy S II is battery life, but we'll see how that turns out after the phone is launched...

Nexus S and Galaxy S are virtually the same. Galaxy II should be the object of desire now..

Thanks a bunch for the reply guys, surprisingly the nexus S owners have pretty much similar opinions about the exchange, plus id have to pay a little more then a $100 for the transaction, anyhow, the thing thats particularly itching me right now is the factory built EXT 4 FS that Nexus S has or the pretty much similar outlook and speed to the best custom rom Cyanogen mod 7 on the Galaxy S, not that its not good on the Galaxy but it has its glitches whereas nothing of that sort on the Nexus S, am i right to think this?

agha123 said:
the factory built EXT 4 FS that Nexus S has or the pretty much similar outlook and speed to the best custom rom Cyanogen mod 7 on the Galaxy S, not that its not good on the Galaxy but it has its glitches whereas nothing of that sort on the Nexus S, am i right to think this?
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Wrong. SGS is stable on ext4 . 2.3.3 stock and any ext4 kernel and SGS will be flying like they say here.

hmmm, i believe your right there, the hardware is identical so i wouldnt be upgrading in that sense

I quite like the more rounded appearance of the nexus s lol

-Liam- said:
I quite like the more rounded appearance of the nexus s lol
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Agreed I was surprised how much I liked the Nexus S
Its alot better looking IMHO
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It looks better but isn't much of an upgrade so I'd just leave it if i were you.

Yep, I can't decide either.
Nexus S (Samsung i9023, ~€400)
+ pure Android, fast, frequent and official updates
+ officially moddable
- big and heavy
+ LCD display
- no SD card slot
- no fm radio
- no GPS (I sent mine back after a few days because the GPS was so bad that it might as well not have been there.)
Galaxy S (Samsung i9000, ~€340)
- TouchWiz, updates depend on the community
+ for all intents and purposes just as moddable
+ very light and compact-looking
- AMOLED display with PenTile matrix
+ SD card slot
+ fm radio
+ surprisingly decent GPS
Both have Voodoo sound.
If you already have an SGS, stick to it, the NS is basically the same phone. It'll stay on the market for a while and only get cheaper, so if community support for the SGS should really wane, you can still get it, and probably for less. At least wait a few weeks till it's clear if the SGS2 is a worthy heir - then choose between that and the NS.

@fallenguru,
Thanks , with your advice and the majority of everyone who replied here,ive made my mind to stick with galaxy s for a while atleast until NS is cheaper
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AFAIK the nexus s has the same screen as the sgs...
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markdj57 said:
AFAIK the nexus s has the same screen as the sgs...
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Not neccessarily, there's a few different versions around. Which is why I gave the model numbers, btw. ;-)

fallenguru said:
Nexus S (Samsung i9023, ~€400)
+ LCD display
Galaxy S (Samsung i9000, ~€340)
- AMOLED display with PenTile matrix
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Really? Why?

Because the SGS1's PenTile matrix more than negates any positive properties its SAMOLED screen might have, at least for me. See http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news...exus-ones-screen-science-color-and-hacks.ars/ for pics and technical details.
I guess it depends on an individual's perception. Some people hear the compression artefacts in mp3s, some don't. (I mostly don't.) Some don't see or don't mind the artifacts PenTile matrix produces, others do. Unfortunately, I do.

sorry for being off topic but something to share

My Fear is that this will have Dell Streak-destiny/poor dev support

I love it first off...I have issues as all do with first releases...but all the issues on other devices have always been eradicated with the great devs on the forum.
I'm sensing that because this is still percieved as a novelty device (and it very well might die as a Samsung new category device...primarily due to its fusion/compromise of tablet and phone...not ever satisfying either) ....because of that fact I fear developers just wont spend the time creating the great roms/kernels as the Evo's and GS2's have enjoyed.
Hope I'm wrong.
Have 9 days left to possibly return or sell. My Epic Touch just kick its ass in general speed (I'm still stunned at the extent that this is the case).
Anyway, that's the general fear...wanted to get it out there and off the chest!
thanks

Dell Streak was a fairly unstable device with very little exposure, so it's adoption was much less. Samsung on the other hand is going out of it's way to advertise Galaxy Note, I am even starting to see TV ads when the device hasn't hit the market yet. Plus Note has a lot of similarity with Galaxy S2 in terms of internals, so it enjoys quite a lot of already established research and development. I mean we had a root and a custom recovery literally within the same week of its release.

I know of a few talented devs getting the device soon.
Dell Streak was a poorly advertised device. But a really good one.
Galaxy note on the other hand is a close relative of SGSII. so easier in terms of development.
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It probably won't get the same dev attention as say the nexus one or galaxy nexus, but personally I'm not too bothered about that. The note is a bit of a niche device. The Samsung apps specific to the Note look like they're pretty good already, and I believe Samsung are releasing APIs for the s-pen soon, and on the horizon is ICS with pen APIs built in.
From what I can see though, there's a lot more anticipation about the Note than for example the Galaxy Tab 7", which was also a niche phone + tablet hybrid. I expect a lot more dev love for this than there was for the Tab.

paulshields said:
From what I can see though, there's a lot more anticipation about the Note than for example the Galaxy Tab 7", which was also a niche phone + tablet hybrid. I expect a lot more dev love for this than there was for the Tab.
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And to be fair, the GTab7 did/does see enough dev support to make it worthwhile.
I'd expect the Note to be more popular than the GTab7 because:
a) It's superior in almost every regard to the Galaxy Nexus (IMO)
b) It will get official ICS at some point
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Dave

rockky said:
I love it first off...I have issues as all do with first releases...but all the issues on other devices have always been eradicated with the great devs on the forum.
I'm sensing that because this is still percieved as a novelty device (and it very well might die as a Samsung new category device...primarily due to its fusion/compromise of tablet and phone...not ever satisfying either) ....because of that fact I fear developers just wont spend the time creating the great roms/kernels as the Evo's and GS2's have enjoyed.
Hope I'm wrong.
Have 9 days left to possibly return or sell. My Epic Touch just kick its ass in general speed (I'm still stunned at the extent that this is the case).
Anyway, that's the general fear...wanted to get it out there and off the chest!
thanks
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When the Dell Streak was launched nearly all smart phones were small, but the trend is now away from small phones. Samsung believes that most people would prefer to carry a Note than carry a large tablet plus small phone and I think they are right. Most people will be very happy with the Note, even if there is no development in forums, because it is such a great phone.

Encouraging responses!
It seems I've taken a 3 year back step in Device responsiveness, tho.
Interesting because one of the final selling moments was review statement such as this:
From Engadget:
" Performance and battery life
The Galaxy Note may slot squarely in between a phone and a tablet in terms of physical dimensions, but when it comes to performance we're happy to report it leans much closer to the latter than the former -- in many cases surpassing even that class of devices. We ran it through the gamut of typical benchmarks and found nearly everything predictably out-pacing this device's Galaxy S II predecessor.
In quadrant this husky phone threw down a 3,998, compared to the GS II's 3,200. Linpack single and multi found 64.30 and 95.66 MFLOPS, compared to 55 and 81. Nenamark 1 and 2 resulted in 57.67 and 32.8, it hit 51.77 at Neocore and ran through SunSpider in 2,902ms. These are very, very good scores, out-classing the Galaxy Tab 10.1 in most cases and really raising the smartphone bar.
Galaxy Note Galaxy S II Galaxy Tab 10.1
Quadrant 3,998 3,200 1,769
Linpack (single-thread) 64.30 55 23.67
Linpack (multi-thread) 95.66 81 41.22
Nenamark1 56.67 59.8 42.7
Neocore 51.77 59.8 N/A
SunSpider 9.1 2,902 3,369 2,330"
NOT so with my beloved Note!
'Better on all fronts' than Nexus Prime? Don't know about that.

rockky said:
Encouraging responses!
It seems I've taken a 3 year back step in Device responsiveness, tho.
Interesting because one of the final selling moments was review statement such as this:
From Engadget:
" Performance and battery life
The Galaxy Note may slot squarely in between a phone and a tablet in terms of physical dimensions, but when it comes to performance we're happy to report it leans much closer to the latter than the former -- in many cases surpassing even that class of devices. We ran it through the gamut of typical benchmarks and found nearly everything predictably out-pacing this device's Galaxy S II predecessor.
In quadrant this husky phone threw down a 3,998, compared to the GS II's 3,200. Linpack single and multi found 64.30 and 95.66 MFLOPS, compared to 55 and 81. Nenamark 1 and 2 resulted in 57.67 and 32.8, it hit 51.77 at Neocore and ran through SunSpider in 2,902ms. These are very, very good scores, out-classing the Galaxy Tab 10.1 in most cases and really raising the smartphone bar.
Galaxy Note Galaxy S II Galaxy Tab 10.1
Quadrant 3,998 3,200 1,769
Linpack (single-thread) 64.30 55 23.67
Linpack (multi-thread) 95.66 81 41.22
Nenamark1 56.67 59.8 42.7
Neocore 51.77 59.8 N/A
SunSpider 9.1 2,902 3,369 2,330"
NOT so with my beloved Note!
'Better on all fronts' than Nexus Prime? Don't know about that.
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Note has a lot of crap running in its background, even then it manages to be on par or beat the Galaxy S2. Plus I believe it's software isn't properly optimized for that resolution. Time will fix these. Hardware wise, the Note is miles better than the Galaxy Nexus. Pure AOSP Android 4 should be absolutely faultless on the Note.

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'Better on all fronts' than Nexus Prime? Don't know about that.
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What's the Nexus Prime?
In what way, other than having ICS out of the box, is the Galaxy Nexus better than the Note?
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
What's the Nexus Prime?
In what way, other than having ICS out of the box, is the Galaxy Nexus better than the Note?
Regards,
Dave
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I agree, I didn't see anything particularly exceptional with the Galaxy Nexus, at least at the hardware level. Which is a pity, as it was going to be the natural replacement for my ageing but still brilliant Nexus One... The lack of an SD slot and no obvious availability here in the UK of the 32GB version was the final nail in the coffin. The Note is actually pretty powerful from a hardware perspective. I'm sure ICS will run extremely well on it. Coupled with confirmation that 64GB sd cards work fine in it, makes it a pretty powerful and capacious device .

There is root and I am a TouchWiz keeper, battery lasts longer than GS2, regular apps run, getting ICS - I guess I wouldn't be needing dev support.
Edited: And I am not super hungry for ICS at version 4.0, I can wait until 4.0.4 when ICS is finally super stable.

i'm just waiting for Cyanogenmod to make it's way over ... it IS coming, right...?

I feel your PAIN...
rockky said:
...I'm sensing that because this is still percieved as a novelty device...because of that fact I fear developers just wont spend the time creating the great roms/kernels as the Evo's and GS2's have enjoyed.
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Coming from the Dell Streak 5 myself, I know EXACTLY how you feel. I flashed as many ROMs as were available -- all TWO OF THEM!!
Amazingly, my son STILL USES my HD2 because it never gets OLD--he can change to a new ROM almost DAILY. There has to be about 82 million ROMs for that thing!
Now that I just picked up the SGN on Friday, I too am hoping the SGN will get that kind of love!!

Gaugerer said:
When the Dell Streak was launched nearly all smart phones were small, but the trend is now away from small phones. .
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Quite right. With my streak people used to be wow every time they see it. Not anymore. At my work place every one seems to be carrying something really big.
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No love for Dell Streak
I completely understand how you feel, coming from the streak.
I got the streak in Oct last year, because 2.x was "coming soon". Gave up and did it myself in December. I'm still on 2.2.2, which is super stable for me.
I've looked at the SGS2, but that 4.3" screen is just too hard to get use to.
If someone in the states would offer the Note, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. I'm not sure I want to get one from overseas...just yet. Bought several items from HK, but, nothing almost a grand in price.

...and I'm OK with that
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...With my streak people used to be wow every time they see it. Not anymore...
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Me too!!! NOW, I don't have to feel OBLIGATED to let people FEEL UP my phone.
people don't wash their hands you know...

foxmeister said:
And to be fair, the GTab7 did/does see enough dev support to make it worthwhile.
I'd expect the Note to be more popular than the GTab7 because:
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Well, the Tab 7 had lots of rommers basically modifying stock with some UI tweaks, and Technomancer doing a proper job with CM7. Nowhere near the likes of something like the Nexus One where lots of real development took place.
I can see lots of development of the Note in comparison, especially once Samsung drop the source. Even more activity once it moves to ICS. I think there are reasonably long legs in this device for devs to come on board.

I am concerned as well. Actually, this is the only reason why I have still not purchased the Galaxy Note.
Are there any good developers who have already promised to support this phone?

chainfire has one,
I'm getting one, when the monkeys at amazon finally decide to give mine to citylink to deliver it!
whether or not I'm a "decent dev" is anyones opinion, but I do have a go

fards said:
chainfire has one,
I'm getting one, when the monkeys at amazon finally decide to give mine to citylink to deliver it!
whether or not I'm a "decent dev" is anyones opinion, but I do have a go
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One of devs who I respect most.
I am sure anyone who has used dell streak knows it.
Damn the delivery from amazon. I thought u might get it today and work your magic.

[Q] Upgrading from GS2 really worth it??

hey guys,
so i'm looking to pick up a Galaxy Note in a few hours- done quite a bit of research as i've been very excited.
i just want to hear from people with first hand experience- if you owned a Galaxy S2 prior to the Note, was the leap really worth it? If so, why?
Thanks!

Kibosh3 said:
hey guys,
so i'm looking to pick up a Galaxy Note in a few hours- done quite a bit of research as i've been very excited.
i just want to hear from people with first hand experience- if you owned a Galaxy S2 prior to the Note, was the leap really worth it? If so, why?
Thanks!
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Do a search for S2 in this forum. You will find numerous threads comparing the Note to the S2. I have not read one post where someone was not happy they moved to the Note.

It is worth it. I upgraded today and I am not looking back. The Note is amazing!!! Love the HD screen. I just need to get a copy of the Netflix HD apk from the Razr.
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No its not.
I bought the note and its not compareable to the sgs2...
Its slower, for what reason ever (im using the lighting rom on [email protected],4ghz), if you load the same website on both for ex youtube desktop the note is much lagg a bit but much... even @ quadrant (I know its a bench but my sgs2 scores 4600 after 4months of useage the note 3400 out of the box...).
Maybe someday a custom rom will boost it up, but at the moment its ONLY BIGGER with a higher res bit greeny colorized display...
The pen is not correct
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqnbvnBuLSk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn1spljliH8
Im going back.

^^ that's what i feared... any other opinions or experiences? both positive and negative
i'd like some confirmation on CM7 coming over to the Note, as i've had some good experience with those ROMS on my old devices making them much more responsive.
$500 over my SGS2 just doesn't seem to be justified for a 1" bigger screen and less responsiveness... decisions, decisons...

i don't have GS2 so i can't say that its worth to upgrading or not but my note is great i could not be happier . i don't see any s pen issue (i set on right hand writing ) if i set left hand writing and using right hand with s pen then it will look a bit off like on the youtube video. and lastly i don't notice any greeny colorize .

audino said:
No its not.
I bought the note and its not compareable to the sgs2...
Its slower, for what reason ever (im using the lighting rom on [email protected],4ghz), if you load the same website on both for ex youtube desktop the note is much lagg a bit but much... even @ quadrant (I know its a bench but my sgs2 scores 4600 after 4months of useage the note 3400 out of the box...).
Maybe someday a custom rom will boost it up, but at the moment its ONLY BIGGER with a higher res bit greeny colorized display...
The pen is not correct
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqnbvnBuLSk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn1spljliH8
Im going back.
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Wait did you just compare an overclocked rommed galaxy s2 versus a stock note? okay yeah that didnt make sense

PolishDude said:
Wait did you just compare an overclocked rommed galaxy s2 versus a stock note? okay yeah that didnt make sense
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Yes and as I said in future some custom made rom may boost up the note but at the moment its not faster then the sgs2 and its not sure that many custom made rom will recive for the note...
For the pen I cna only say mine is like the one on youtube...
Im not the only one its german http://www.android-hilfe.de/samsung.../161894-kann-man-den-stift-kalibrieren-8.html but 8 site in few days...
Try drawing a innercircle from a dvd/cd and you will be able to check it.

audino said:
No its not.
I bought the note and its not compareable to the sgs2...
Its slower, for what reason ever (im using the lighting rom on [email protected],4ghz), if you load the same website on both for ex youtube desktop the note is much lagg a bit but much... even @ quadrant (I know its a bench but my sgs2 scores 4600 after 4months of useage the note 3400 out of the box...).
Maybe someday a custom rom will boost it up, but at the moment its ONLY BIGGER with a higher res bit greeny colorized display...
The pen is not correct
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqnbvnBuLSk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn1spljliH8
Im going back.
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Recalibrate your pen...
Use a stock rom NOT overclocked and test both of them...
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Stock rom in SGS2 lol

audino said:
Yes and as I said in future some custom made rom may boost up the note but at the moment its not faster then the sgs2 and its not sure that many custom made rom will recive for the note...
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My tweaked SGSII is faster and smoother then my SGN, stock browser and desktop mainly. Still the SGSII is shelfed since I have my Note. SGSII actually looks to small to be usable.

I have a S2, I think its worth to upgrade. I love the larger screen.
I had to go back to the S2 for a few days because my Note's screen was faulty, and it is surely no torture to use the S2, it feels smooth.
But, the Note gives a dimension to mobile computing not comparable to smaller devices like the S2 or iPhone.
I don't care for the s-pen, maybe I'll find some use it besides impressing others...
If however, your main use is calling, maybe a smaller device is more suitable...
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zylor said:
Recalibrate your pen...
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There is no way to calibrate the pen...

I moved from sgs2 and it was very good move
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I love the Note. LOVE it.
That said it is significantly laggy compared to my SGs2.
I figured it would be with no mods initially...but its slower than I thought it'd be.
I compare them both clocked at 1400.
The difference is the lack of exynos processor I think.
You can bridge the gdap with Launcher pro (and loose the cool tW widgets)and put scrolling settings at top speed....along with Rom Manager Pro an XDA dudes app which scripts the OS to optimize memory and speed.
So yeah surprised and dissapointed in the screen responsiveness (specially after Engadgets review (has it faster than SGS2 in all benchmarks).
Whatever...developers should have it all stepped up in a month or two.

thanks for all the replies, fellas
i'm looking forward to what's in store for the Note in the near future...

rockky said:
I love the Note. LOVE it.
That said it is significantly laggy compared to my SGs2.
I figured it would be with no mods initially...but its slower than I thought it'd be.
I compare them both clocked at 1400.
The difference is the lack of exynos processor I think.
You can bridge the gdap with Launcher pro (and loose the cool tW widgets)and put scrolling settings at top speed....along with Rom Manager Pro an XDA dudes app which scripts the OS to optimize memory and speed.
So yeah surprised and dissapointed in the screen responsiveness (specially after Engadgets review (has it faster than SGS2 in all benchmarks).
Whatever...developers should have it all stepped up in a month or two.
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The galaxy note has the exynos processor, why do people think otherwise, i havent seen a single publication post otherwise.

I really like the note so far, those it is slightly laggy as others havee said

Useful video comparing the Note with the S2.
It's in Italian, but the video should still be easy to follow... Possibly a tiny bit more laggy on the Note in parts, but I don't see that being a long term issue. The hardware is definitely good enough. Really want to see ICS run on it. I suspect it'll fly.

An appearance of lagginess doesn't mean it's slower necessarily, right?
Could just be software inefficiencies, if I'm not wrong....

once development catches up, i'm sure it'll be on par at least
in any case, i ordered one today lol
thank you everyone for your input and opinions!

Are we likely to get new SIII features?

Well as 99% of you know the SIII has been launched, with a whole host of software features.
What are the chances of us getting some of these features? A couple that appeal to me are the Music Hub (newer less usless version) and the new dongle that mirror to the TV.
It'd be great to get these features.
(Could this be the reason ICS got delayed?)

We gets the hubs for music, movies and the others.
Faceunlock but if u close your eyes and the screen goes off this feature is only for sgs3 and the videofrature too.
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We'll never have them 'cause the s3 was "designed for humans" and the note was designed for aliens lol
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I would like to see the improved camera software for our Note, such as faster shutter speed (current speed annoys me compared to my SGS1 Epic 4G which has a super fast shutter) and 3.3 second between shots.

I'm very interested in the AllShare Cast wireless streaming dongle.
I can't see any reason it wouldn't be offered for the Note, or any modern Samsung device for that matter.

CreepyDroid said:
We'll never have them 'cause the s3 was "designed for humans" and the note was designed for aliens lol
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maybe not aliens.. but gods...
nah, just kiddin

Yes well get all of them....cept that really crappy sIII feature: that 4'8" screen.

CGI_Ram said:
I'm very interested in the AllShare Cast wireless streaming dongle.
I can't see any reason it wouldn't be offered for the Note, or any modern Samsung device for that matter.
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i really want wireless display mirroring too!
hope our NOTE meet the hardware requirement....

We will get all of them soon...Just give our devs couple of months

What about the Siri clone? You think we will get it?

Well, if we do get it (and im sure eventually in time it will be), the only thing that I'm pretty sure we won't ever get is NFC... (this is after all the International Note version thread), this needs the hardware part... which I'm pretty sure our Note lacks the better part of it as well.

I feel like a good chunk if not almost all of these features could be ported to our Notes. Seeing as they've said that the quad core Exynos is supposed to be pin for pin identical to the dual cores in the fact that they can be changed out without having to alter your design I'd have to think the whole setup is similar, but I'm just guessing. The biggest thing I've been wondering about is with the whole zero shutter lag. Is it possible to port or give our older phones this ability? I don't know if new hardware is physically required or if it's all software? If my Note could have zero shutter lag, or even much faster shutter speeds and ICS. I'm perfectly happy without the SIII.

rayarny said:
We will get all of them soon...Just give our devs couple of months
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Yup, that's true:
http://opendesign.blamesamsung.org

It would be interesting if they held the Note's ICS update back, so they can show off all the new features on their flagship first. Rather than the S3 announcement essentially being; 'Its got all the features of the Note but its smaller and has no SPen'

AETAaAS said:
It would be interesting if they held the Note's ICS update back, so they can show off all the new features on their flagship first. Rather than the S3 announcement essentially being; 'Its got all the features of the Note but its smaller and has no SPen'
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Whilst I'm not a fan of threads such as this (prefer waiting), you are likely on the money. With 3 million Notes sold and S3 launch, you don't want to steal the new arrivals thunder!
Nexus S ICS was on Google Employees handsets for ages before publically released as Google needed to get units of Galaxy Nexus shifted.
Any timeframe extension the inhouse devs might have been given to allow for the launch of the S3 (in developing ICS mainstream Samsung build, Note extras and other device specific extras for say S2 for example) can only be a good thing.

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I feel like a good chunk if not almost all of these features could be ported to our Notes. Seeing as they've said that the quad core Exynos is supposed to be pin for pin identical to the dual cores in the fact that they can be changed out without having to alter your design I'd have to think the whole setup is similar, but I'm just guessing. The biggest thing I've been wondering about is with the whole zero shutter lag. Is it possible to port or give our older phones this ability? I don't know if new hardware is physically required or if it's all software? If my Note could have zero shutter lag, or even much faster shutter speeds and ICS. I'm perfectly happy without the SIII.
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You stole the words right out of my mouth.
I personally feel that most of the features should be able to get ported, especially the new TouchWiz Launcher Nature UX. Its essentially got the ICS stock feel with a Widget tab while allowing transparency.
I am hoping to get the ROM ported with features from the note, mainly SMemo stuff over to the note, that would be a delight.
Good Luck Dev's

I am not really impressed with the SIII, I am not saying it's bad rather it's awesome and I would have wanted it on day one had I not had my GNote. 4.8 is still small and it feels awkward saying that.
Coming to your question, who knows it might all be the ICS Update, if not then in Note II definitely.
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This is what i posted in the main ICS thread & this is what I feel..
I think Galaxy note will get ICS updates inline with Galaxy S2 with the addition of premium suite. Both of them are previous years's model.
Galaxy note 2 & Galaxy S3 will have same feature set.
From business point of view if Galaxy note gets the features then Galaxy note 2 will be only a hardware upgrade. Well that wouldnt create the hype would it ?
Regarding porting to our note our devs will certainly turn the magic wheels....

I am leaning towards the PORT and not a Samsung Supported update due to the same reason of Productization and ensuring that the customer can differentiate between the Note and the SGS III, otherwise the Note will win with the features and screen size, but lacking the Quad Core.

I also feel with a complete ICS build running on the Note it probably won't be that much slower than the GSIII despite dual vs. quad. Heck people said it's the same GPU just overclocked right? As for Note 2 I wouldn't be surprised if they introduce some new features. Maybe HD SuperAMOLED+? Wasn't the Note the first Samsung phone to have the HD Screen, GLONASS, S-Pen, etc?
As for some of the new features my Droid Charge which is basically just Galaxy S hardware has the newer launcher, widgets, and some of the features from the Galaxy SII. So I think we could see stuff brought to our Note!!

(DISCUSSION)_ Samsung galaxy S2 over S3

I bought the galaxy S3 on the release date.
First i was quite happy with the new exciting features but soon been dispaointed with a lot of manufacturing processes issues.
Overheating, black spots on screen, feeling in hand so-so because of the rounded corners and we can easily drop it on the floor, call quality problems and some lack of real developpement on our North America Device because of the International version who takes the lead ...
I kept my Galaxy S2 ( international one that almost everyone have fortunately. Not LTE but it is ok ) that i have for 8 months and when i returned to it I felt very comfortable and sell the GS3 at the same time.
I do not want to start a troll or something it is just a personnal opinion that I want to share with the community and I would like to know if other people feels scammed with the SGS3 or if I make a big mistake.
At first the phone is cool. But after a few weeks the magic really disapears ..

I have the same opinion too... I have a black i777 ATT and a white international... I prefer them to the S3. They have reasonable screen size and way better design. The S3 is too big for my taste and I cant stand the design that made for woman ( with a big hands of course). Even though the S3 comes with new features but the ATT S3 still uses dual core so its not really a big improvement.
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nopain9nogain said:
I have the same opinion too... I have a black i777 ATT and a white international... I prefer them to the S3. They have reasonable screen size and way better design. The S3 is too big for my taste and I cant stand the design that made for woman ( with a big hands of course). Even though the S3 comes with new features but the ATT S3 still uses dual core so its not really a big improvement.
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So I'm not the only one that thinks the S3 looks girly! It does have some nice features but just looks like it would prefer to live in a handbag.

spykedm said:
So I'm not the only one that thinks the S3 looks girly! It does have some nice features but just looks like it would prefer to live in a handbag.
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You are right about that fact
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lol

JB
I don't need a S3 as long as I get Android 4.1 JellyBean on my S2

azeller09 said:
I don't need a S3 as long as I get Android 4.1 JellyBean on my S2
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I totally agree. currently I am running a cm10 based rom and I am very satisfied.
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The S3 is blazing fast though. Maybe my comparisons of CM9 versus stock SGS3 are unfair but my gf's SGS3 feels so fast. Just laucnhing the app launcher hers beats mine. You'd think a simple task like that shouldn't matter much. It's like playing Doom 2 on a Core i7 versus a Intel Pentium 4. The load times are like 1 seconds versus 0.9 seconds or something. But maybe it's because of TouchWiz.
I realize that the Sgs3 is uglier and stuff, but honestly get it. Things like BLN matter for me and unless they get BLNWW I don't think I'll be 100% satisfied with my phone. Plus the screen is gorgeous on the SGS3.
As for development, the Exynos SOC is well developed for. you can credit hte SGs2 for being the guinea pig because remember CM7? we had issues even AFTER CM7.1 release with market crashing left and right and outstanding issues. It was never fully working til post CM7.1. Heck I think we had issues into December/January.
But as a result of our struggles on the SGS2 and other devices like the Note, I think SGS3 benefitted greatly. Look at where we were in CM7 at this point last year. Meanwhile the SGS3 has ICS running beautifully. The progress in CM10 is about the same as that on the SGS2.
Yeah it's not the most beautiful device, and there's still probably more SGS2 than SGS3 users, but look at 6 months down the road, The SGS3 will shine more. Our SGS2s only have room to fall more and more behind as newer devices come out. I'm itching to buy but at the same time I'm telling myself just to wait for the next Nexus....

At first I think I will change my S2 to S3. But I think when I don't feel S2 fast or few during use than why sould I change? Maybe next year, and maybe Note 2

I feel no need for S3 too....why? Even I have JB on my S2

You can check the benchmark reviews for an idea of the differences.And you could have visited a phone shop and see how it fitted in your hand etc before you bought one.
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You can check the benchmark reviews for an idea of the differences.And you could have visited a phone shop and see how it fitted in your hand etc before you bought one.
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Ya seriously instead of wasting money on just to try it u could hav done that,,, I prefer S2 still because of two reasons, one is financial my salary is only half of the price of S3 second one is S3 s far too big too handle(Not tooooo much ) like I m rider I keep checking mails for professional purpose even some times stopping on side of roads if phone slips gone .. I started saving for s2 from one year I m happy with this Beast.. Also Sammy confirmed JB for s2.. Atleast can draw upto 1 1.5 years more

Don't get me wrong, I agree that in terms of specification, the S3 is superb device, in terms of speed, screen resolution etc. It offers a greater degree of future proofing than the S2 but would I spend money to upgrade at this stage? No, it's just not enough of a step up to make me consider it. And I have had a good play around with a couple of them.
I will wait for the S4 or possibly a future Nexus before moving by which time my S2 will be very well used. And I still think the S3 is just too feminine in design for my personal taste. Kind of like how the original VW Beetle morphed from a car that transcended class and gender barriers into the recreated one that doesn't.
That said, if I owned an S3, I would just stick it in a decent case and be as happy as Larry.

heres my rant, I've been thinking about this since it came out, I can't justify the upgrade, mostly for the 720p screen and dpi so I got a tablet for browsing
I don't mind the quad core as dual is more than enough power, one thing I was not sure about is the quality control on amoled screen and design, I wouldn't want to root it and risk warranty.
been looking at my local listing site and I see many s3 with broken screens from being dropped and knowing how many times I dropped my s2 I know the s3 design wont be any better
and last, the size and shape, other than it being feminine, it will be too big to use it with one hand, its not designed for most humans I find the s2 hard as it is reaching the other side with my thumb

Hmmm I have a question, is it worth fixing my cracked screen on the s2 and continue using it or should I trade it in for a S3? Hmmm... I might rather go for the Note 2...

Sgs3 or note2 are only for them, those hands are larger to fits in hands comfortably....plus you have to maintain them properly and you have big pockets to fit in.
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I'll probably skip S3 and wait for S4.. it might be next year but at least it will be equipped with Exynos 5 Dual Chip.
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-exynos-5-dual-specs-features-106609/

mzone1510 said:
Hmmm I have a question, is it worth fixing my cracked screen on the s2 and continue using it or should I trade it in for a S3? Hmmm... I might rather go for the Note 2...
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You could sell it as is on eBay.You could get around £160 for it.A screen can cost around £100 but it could be tricky to replace.
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I like my s2 very much :fingers-crossed: especially with aluminium bumper + 2000mah battery :good: and also siyah kernel + miui v4

I have a GS2 running CM9 stable.
While GS3 is blazing fast, for everyday activities GS2 is more than sufficient.
Also, GS2 being 800 x 480 resolution has a comparable or even better frame rates than GS3 running at 720P when running games.
So, I will stick with GS2 for another year and may be look at GS4 or if something more awesome comes in.