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HTC charging me $75 for the hairline power button crack

Sent to the article author here at XDA this morning along with a few other key addresses.
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Just wanted to follow up with you. HTC has quoted me $75 to repair a missing camera lens cover due to my phone also having the hairline crack you discuss here. Even though they acknowledge the fact that the hairline crack doesn't affect the camera lens in any way shape or form and also acknowledging that the missing lens (it fell out) is also an obvious warranty issue they are demanding I pay their fee. Also conveniently right after they quote you expedited shipping prices (in my case 15 for overnight since I've been fighting them for 2 weeks on this already) and charge your credit card they decide to finally inform you that it'll take about two weeks to do actually do the 10 minute repair for you.
I've attached a picture the RMA folks at HTC sent me of my "negligent damage." Somehow phones with screens that fall off and USB power ports that fall out of the phone are obvious manufacturers defects but actually pushing the power button (OMG HOW DARE I DO THIS) is abuse and will not be tolerated by the nice folks at HTC.
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Dear Mr. Sheehan,
Please see the pictures below that you have requested from your phone. If you have any further questions feel free to contact us at 888-617-1113 between 8am and 8pm EST Monday through Friday.
Sincerely,
HTC Customer Care
3. Ben Sheehan
SN: HT05******* (Evo) – Crack case
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Dear Valued Customer,
Thank you for using HTC repair services! Here is a copy of your invoice
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RMA #: 121****
Accepted Repair Actions: Average Repair
Total Charged: $90.00
Date of Charge: 8/24/2010
There is a 90-day warranty on all repairs made. The 90-day warranty applies
only to repeat return cases with the same functional failure symptom and
same parts for replacement.
Please remember that all processed repair charges are non-refundable. The
charge will appear on your credit card statement as Telamon CPE.
Thank you for using HTC! We appreciate your business!
Sincerely,
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Wow, that is ****.
Mine is cracked in precisely the same place.

It is B.S. but for some reason both Sprint and HTC refuse to acknowledge the crack as a defect. I think it is ridiculous and deserves a recall. But I don't understand the problem completely. Are they forcing you to pay $90 in order to get your phone back? Or are they just saying that it would cost $90 if you asked them to repair the hairline crack?

I never read the other thread. Does it crack in the middle? Looking at how it is attached (two tiny, flimsy tabs) when I had mine apart...I would expect the tabs to break. It's a crap piece all things considered.

Sent the phone in for a completely unrelated issue. They are saying the crack is evidence that I've abused my phone. I can either pay 75 for them to fix it or 40 for them just to send it back. The additional is shipping.
This company literally has by far the most useless and brain dead phone reps I've ever encountered.

Should have just exchanged it with Sprint.

That is absolutely awful. The cracked power button is a well-known defect of this phone. And the fact that they are nitpicking you is almost a deal-breaker. I'm mad for you.
Twice when I owned a Blackberry I sent my phone in for minor issues. The way it worked is that Sprint overnighted a new phone to me before they looked at mine. I activated the new one so that I wouldn't have to be without phone. Then I sent in the old one. RIM charges something like $75 if they find that the problem doesn't exist and you were just trying to get a shiny new phone. I was never charged the $75. And I was really pushing the policy because there was some tiny flaw in the phone which was why I was returning it.
You shouldn't have to wait this long for a replacement. And you shouldn't have to bicker with them like it's a flea market. We only have these phones for like a year before we move on, and they are wasting your time.

TheBiles said:
Should have just exchanged it with Sprint.
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Sprint had no phones and it was a wait for a refurb. Figured this would be a simple in and out repair. My bad thinking HTC has any idea what customer service is.

Ugh. I just noticed my one month old never dropped babied Evo has that be crack right where everyone else's is located. I thought you were all being rough on your phones but I stand corrected. HTC will be getting a call from me.

thebryanexperience said:
Ugh. I just noticed my one month old never dropped babied Evo has that be crack right where everyone else's is located. I thought you were all being rough on your phones but I stand corrected. HTC will be getting a call from me.
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HTC will not care if they get a call from you. That's the problem.

Just had the same issue, plus I lost my WIMAX flashing, so I went through Sprint and told them the button craked, 1 week later i have brand new EVO. NOT refurb. I did flirt with the gal at Sprint though..

xavier1022 said:
Just had the same issue, plus I lost my WIMAX flashing, so I went through Sprint and told them the button craked, 1 week later i have brand new EVO. NOT refurb. I did flirt with the gal at Sprint though..
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She must have been trying to get you out of the store as quickly as possible. Not a bad strategy.

get your phone back tell them to F themselves at go ***** at sprint, and wait, I'm pretty sure its not going to kill anyones phone to have a crack in it while you wait for a refurb to come in, HTC is going to send you a refurb anyway most likely.
either way with a refurb your stuck without root, the Evo's roll in for Service and repair replacements every few days.
the longer the better, more time to hope froyo gets rooted lol

Wait, is the button itself cracked, or the trim right around it (on the screen side of the top)?

Its just the trim around it. I really don't see it as anything but a cosmetic issue. There is no "flex" to the plastic and feels as solid as a friends that doesn't have the crack.
I can only feel it with my fingernail.

File a case with the BBB.

Bielinsk said:
Its just the trim around it. I really don't see it as anything but a cosmetic issue. There is no "flex" to the plastic and feels as solid as a friends that doesn't have the crack.
I can only feel it with my fingernail.
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I have that too. Mine has been apart a few times, so I can't really *****. I only noticed it because I was scrutinizing the button.
Still my favorite phone ever, and will probably be for the next six months.

Yet when there is a thread about another manufacturer everyone is ready to beat HTC off with both hands while they piss on the other builders. They are no better and their build quality is certainly suspect at best. Don't even get me started on the programming mess.

I've filed formal complaints with the BBB (like anyone cares) and the Florida Division of Consumer Services (might care) along with posting on every forum and facebook page I can find related to HTC as well as carpet bombing their fax numbers.
HTC I know you are reading this.
I'm just getting started.
I promise you I will cost you many many times more than the 75 bucks you've gotten from me.

Making it a point to call twice a day to check on my phone.
They told me it would be 5 to 7 days before it ships.
I'll call twice a day every day and waste as much of their time as I possibly can.
Also got another "we don't care about your problems with HTC" chain letter from Sprint today. In case anyone wondered the "[email protected]" address just takes you to more customer "service" reps though you do get a dedicated employee to ignore you. I like when they say they are "calling from the office of Dan Hesse." It makes me giggle. Chances are good they wouldn't know Dan Hesse if he walked up and punched them in the face.

**Current DELL Policy regarding BROKEN Gorillaglass**

I have a dell streak with a screen that is cracked.
I had it in my pocket and when i pulled it out the screen had cracked clear across the smaller width. its about 1/3 of the way down the device.
the lcd functions fine, but im not going to use it after I saw the youtube vids of broken lcds...
So Officially ( as I just talked to customer support), Dell has decided that the device screen falls outside of warranty, and that there are ZERO repair options at the current time. They are also 'real sorry' about the fact that I still have a monthly mobile bill and no way to stop it. Hope fully I can pay AT&T in sorrys next month.
They took my Service Tag, and gave me a ticket# for when i hear that repair options are available. So I have to make sure I keep listening real good!
The Uniform Commercial Code Article 2 dictates contractual terms for the sale of goods.All goods carry with them an implied warranty of merchantability/fitness unless disavowed. Products may be returned within a "commercially reasonable period of time." That period of time is determined through trade usage, custom, course of dealing, and course of performance.
You'd think that putting a phone in your pocket would fall under normal course of performance...

Warranties are meant to cover manufacturer defects. The glass breaking due to it being in your pocket is not a defect. Gorilla glass is marketed to be stronger not indestructible.

kou5oku said:
I have a dell streak with a screen that is cracked.
I had it in my pocket and when i pulled it out the screen had cracked clear across the smaller width. its about 1/3 of the way down the device.
the lcd functions fine, but im not going to use it after I saw the youtube vids of broken lcds...
So Officially ( as I just talked to customer support), Dell has decided that the device screen falls outside of warranty, and that there are ZERO repair options at the current time. They are also 'real sorry' about the fact that I still have a monthly mobile bill and no way to stop it. Hope fully I can pay AT&T in sorrys next month.
They took my Service Tag, and gave me a ticket# for when i hear that repair options are available. So I have to make sure I keep listening real good!
The Uniform Commercial Code Article 2 dictates contractual terms for the sale of goods.All goods carry with them an implied warranty of merchantability/fitness unless disavowed. Products may be returned within a "commercially reasonable period of time." That period of time is determined through trade usage, custom, course of dealing, and course of performance.
You'd think that putting a phone in your pocket would fall under normal course of performance...
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DEMAND TO TALK TO A SUPERVISOR. tELL THEM THERE IS NOT A SCRATCH ON THE PHONE OR THE GORILLA GLASS. THAT IS THE KEY. THERE IS NOT A SCRATCH OR CRACK ON THE GORILLA GLASS. JUST THE LCD IS CRACKED. IT HAPPENED TO ME. THE LADY I SPOKE TO TOLD ME THE SAME THING. I TOLD HER I SPENT 550 BUCKS ON SOMETHING THAT LASTED 20 DAYS I AM WILLING TO SPEND THE WHOLE DAY ON THE PHONE AND I WASNT GOING TO TAKE HER ANSWER AS THE FINAL WORD. I TOLD HER I WANTED TO SPEAK WITH SOMEONE HIGHRER UP. 15 MINUTES LATER THE SUPERVISOR WAS TAKING MY INFORMATION TO SEND ME A REPLACEMENT PHONE. I RECIEVED THE PHONE 2DAYS LATER. A SATISFIED CUSTOMER. DO NOT GIVE UP. DEMAND A SUPERVISOR. GOOD LUCK
Could you please refrain from writing in Capitals please

I checked with att before i got my streak, they said that their ins covered the phone. If you still can you can put insuence on the phone and make a claim if all else fails.
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martywix said:
DEMAND TO TALK TO A SUPERVISOR. tELL THEM THERE IS NOT A SCRATCH ON THE PHONE OR THE GORILLA GLASS. THAT IS THE KEY. THERE IS NOT A SCRATCH OR CRACK ON THE GORILLA GLASS. JUST THE LCD IS CRACKED. IT HAPPENED TO ME. THE LADY I SPOKE TO TOLD ME THE SAME THING. I TOLD HER I SPENT 550 BUCKS ON SOMETHING THAT LASTED 20 DAYS I AM WILLING TO SPEND THE WHOLE DAY ON THE PHONE AND I WASNT GOING TO TAKE HER ANSWER AS THE FINAL WORD. I TOLD HER I WANTED TO SPEAK WITH SOMEONE HIGHRER UP. 15 MINUTES LATER THE SUPERVISOR WAS TAKING MY INFORMATION TO SEND ME A REPLACEMENT PHONE. I RECIEVED THE PHONE 2DAYS LATER. A SATISFIED CUSTOMER. DO NOT GIVE UP. DEMAND A SUPERVISOR. GOOD LUCK
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your caps lock key seems to be stuck...

kou5oku, how did the glass break in the first place? I hate to tell you that I completely agree with mandarb77 about this not being under warranty.
As for martywix, I hate people like you. You are the reason most call center associates want to shoot themselves after a days work. All you just stated (in full caps none the less) was that if you cry and complain enough a company will cave in, giving you a product to get you off their back. Hell you practically yelled your message above.
Although this is extremely unfortunate (not to mention expensive), I think you have to take a loss and buy a new phone. Or be like every other American and cry enough to a point that the company finds you pathetic and caves.
Decisions decisions...

Not being warrenty is one thing, not being able to repair it for money is just
I broke mine. Well I didn't. The train moved very fast to the right and the device fell from the table to the floor while I wasn't there.
The touchscreen and LCD works, no harm. But the glass is broken in about every peace there can be (I guess 100 or so). I have had an iPhone for years (all but the 3GS). And yes it fell to the floor one time or another (thorugh my fault) and there was not a single scratch. Nor was there with any other device (HTC, Motorola whatsoever).
And if Dell's going to tell me they can't repair it (even for money) I will go crazy.
Why? It's just unbelievable that they sell phones they aren't able to repair (and the phones out for 3 months).
If I sell it now (repaired) it will go for 500-600€. If I sell it in 6 months (after being repaired) it will sell for 300-400€. That's 200€ minus cause Dell isn't able to replace the glass?
I will ask for legal advice if necessary. This is just bull.
I'm so mad and totally afraid to call and hear such a bull****.
And a device, which is being damaged the hard way in an Engadget video and then breaking so easily... That's just a total lie. This test device never ever has the same glass/screen as those being sold after. Never ever. If you watch the Engadget video and quite a lot reports on many forums that the screen broke, you can ask yourself if this is always the customer.
Cheaply produced glass.

zwuncki said:
Not being warrenty is one thing, not being able to repair it for money is just .
I broke mine. Well I didn't. The train moved very fast to the right and the device fell from the table to the floor while I wasn't there.
The touchscreen and LCD works, no harm. But the glass is broken in about every peace there can be (I guess 100 or so). I have had an iPhone for years (all but the 3GS). And yes it fell to the floor one time or another (thorugh my fault) and there was not a single scratch. Nor was there with any other device (HTC, Motorola whatsoever).
And if Dell's going to tell me they can't repair it (even for money) I will go crazy.
Why? It's just unbelievable that they sell phones they aren't able to repair (and the phones out for 3 months).
If I sell it now (repaired) it will go for 500-600€. If I sell it in 6 months (after being repaired) it will sell for 300-400€. That's 200€ minus cause Dell isn't able to replace the glass?
I will ask for legal advice if necessary. This is just bull.
I'm so mad and totally afraid to call and hear such a bull****.
And a device, which is being damaged the hard way in an Engadget video and then breaking so easily... That's just a total lie. This test device never ever has the same glass/screen as those being sold after. Never ever. If you watch the Engadget video and quite a lot reports on many forums that the screen broke, you can ask yourself if this is always the customer.
Cheaply produced glass.
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I Can Understand Your Frustration but that is no Excuse to use Swear Words
Consider this your FIRST and Final Warning.....

Muo said:
kou5oku, how did the glass break in the first place? I hate to tell you that I completely agree with mandarb77 about this not being under warranty.
As for martywix, I hate people like you. You are the reason most call center associates want to shoot themselves after a days work. All you just stated (in full caps none the less) was that if you cry and complain enough a company will cave in, giving you a product to get you off their back. Hell you practically yelled your message above.
Although this is extremely unfortunate (not to mention expensive), I think you have to take a loss and buy a new phone. Or be like every other American and cry enough to a point that the company finds you pathetic and caves.
Decisions decisions...
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Why is it if you forget to turn the cap lock off people assume you are yelling. I love it when i try to help a fellow streak owner get satisfaction from a product he paid good money for. Lets get real the screen breaking from putting it in our pockets, the same thing happened to me. Sorry I have had other HTC and Sony phones and have carried all in my pocket and have never had a problem. Also I didn't cry about it. I spoke with a supervisor in the mobile dept. and she actually said this has been a problem with the device. The gorilla glass is strong but unfortunaly the LCD is not. That is why she asked if the gorilla glass was not broken or scratched. If the gorilla glass is damaged then they will not replace. Sorry I paid good money and will not get the brush from someone at the call center who has never seen the device let alone know about the screen. Funny in the HD2 forum peole actually were thankful for help...Hope you don't keep it in your pocket.

Muo said:
kou5oku, how did the glass break in the first place? I hate to tell you that I completely agree with mandarb77 about this not being under warranty.
As for martywix, I hate people like you. You are the reason most call center associates want to shoot themselves after a days work. All you just stated (in full caps none the less) was that if you cry and complain enough a company will cave in, giving you a product to get you off their back. Hell you practically yelled your message above.
Although this is extremely unfortunate (not to mention expensive), I think you have to take a loss and buy a new phone. Or be like every other American and cry enough to a point that the company finds you pathetic and caves.
Decisions decisions...
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I believe this is your post about the screen cracking :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7987943&postcount=5
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Muo 3rd September 2010, 06:47 PM
ReTweet this post# 5I could most definitely see potential screen crack if it was sitting in your pocket.
Of coarse try and get a replacement, you have nothing to lose!
I do what flumps recommends:
Originally Posted by flumps
- treat phone like a newborn baby"
Why would you give the same advice as me but here have a problem with it...?

martywix said:
Why is it if you forget to turn the cap lock off people assume you are yelling.
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Because I read for most of my day with proper capitalization, cap lock reads like you are yelling.
martywix said:
Lets get real the screen breaking from putting it in our pockets, the same thing happened to me. Sorry I have had other HTC and Sony phones and have carried all in my pocket and have never had a problem.
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Yes lets get real, the Streak's screen breaking from putting it in our pocket is very likely. A 5in screen will flex on your thigh. You cannot compare it to an HTC or Sony Ericsson phone as they do not have a 5in device.
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Also I didn't cry about it.
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I did not mean literally cry about it. I was merely metaphorically relating your "DEMAND" and stubbornness to be "WILLING TO SPEND THE WHOLE DAY ON THE PHONE" to that of a child, who at times do cry.
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Why would you give the same advice as me but here have a problem with it...?
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That quote is taken out a context and does not apply for this situation. brycestejskal had stated in his post that dell offered a replacement or a refund.
kou5oku on the other hand said that there was no replacement or refund offered as well as no way to repair it.

Plenty of people have broken the screens of other makes of phone before, a quick look on eBay will prove that. As has been said above and many times before here and elsewhere a smaller phone will site easier in your pocket than a Streak, you cannot expect something the size this thing is to survive the flexing it will take in a tight pocket, use some common sense.
Forgot to turn the caps lock off? Nobody types line after line and then hits the post button without ever looking at what they've written. Typing in capitals is shouting, if you're going to do it at least have the gonads to own up to it.

In fairness Gorilla glass will bend almost as much as acrylic before breaking, its reasonable to expect the LCD to crack LONG before the gorilla glass.
As for the 'no repair option' thing, that unforgivable, a company the size of Dell should not release a device they cannot repair, its ridiculous. My understanding is that the Streak is made by BenQ not Dell, but even so, it should have service backup from launch.

Gentlemen, good evening.
Having stumbled upon this thread, may i respectfully request that you refrain from shouting, flaming, trolling and the use of bad language.
I can understand frustrations of breaking ones device, but there is no need to take this frustration out on other members......remember, respect other members (see my sig).
I think that everyone can now move on. I have taken the liberty of tidying this thread up so do not be offended if your post has been altered or deleted, we have over 2.7 million people who frequent this site and therefore we have a wider audience to consider.
Thank you for your understanding and co-operation and please show support for your forum moderator; he is here voluntarily to help you (as am I) and to keep xda a better place.
Greetz,
Tim.

I have also fallen pray to the pocket of death for the Dell Streak. I understand where they are coming from the no replacement policy and no refund policy, but not being able to repair my streak for a price because "Dell does not have a department in place yet to handle such a problem." Everyone I talked to told me that exact same thing. The worst part is I just received my unlock code from At&t so I could finally use it on Rogers in Canada.
But the whole whining and crying thing, I think I might have to do that. Because if they are not willing to take my money to fix my Streak, then I will "cry" to get a new one. A previous post said it was like a little child whining, well I am looking at this way, "Manning up to it" doesn't get my Streak fixed or a replacement. "Manning up" puts me down $1200 (for the first phone and the second one to replace), if I look at that way "crying like a child" wins.

HTC One build quality... Cracks, Gaps, Wonky Glass and overhangs

Hi all,
been having some real fun and games with my htc one. Some things to look out for if you are planning on picking up a new htc one. It took htc over a month to arrange a repair of the device and when it was returned the "crack" between the front fascia had been made smaller but was still present, so its going back yet again (what fun).
The front glass at the top is still not fitted correctly, and the fascia overhangs at one end and underhangs at the other.
When I first got the phone, I did notice the crack, but ignored it.As a few weeks went by I noticed the crack was getting bigger so I decided to return the phone.
I personally think that the body of the device has not been machined properly, so despite HTC attempting to repair, the problem persists. I have requested a replacement phone this time from HTC.
Dealing with htc service has been a real pain. I unlocked the bootloader, so the first response from htc staff has been "out of warranty". As I have had to remind HTC several times, it does not matter if the bootloader is unlocked in the event of a manufacturing defect. This was "escalated" by htc and after 1 month there was still no resolution. I had to remind them of uk consumer law before they eventually undertook the warranty "repair".

the glass shoulb be higher than the fascia

Nightf0x_007 said:
the glass shoulb be higher than the fascia
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He said it was high on one side and low on the other. I don't think it should be high either, mine is flush.
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My glass is high on the top and low on the bottom. It is subtle enough that it doesn't bother me, and it definitely isn't as bad as some of the stories I was hearing before I bought mine.

Well, I didn't have any similar issue to you guys, but my One had a scratch on the back, along with 2 very small notches, plus a very small piece of some tape or something sticking out of the metal to the right of the bottom speaker. I highy doubt it could've come from my pocket as it was completely stuck, so maybe there was a gap. It also had static noise during calls.
Sent it back and waiting for a new one.
(Why didn't you go through your retailer btw? It's much more effective).

My previous experience was that the HTC repair service direct was better. I waited a week for my old carrier to email me a form for the repair. Previously HTC support did an excellent job. The glass problem is caused by bad manufacture so that the fascia are not true to the body of the phone. Also Please note that my HTC one had only a minor crack showing at the start. It got rapidly worse so I decided to return it. My point is that if u have an ill fitting fascia/gap/overhang then your phone could also get
worse/ let dust in so I would advise to return.
Sent from my One using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

zaphodbeeb said:
My previous experience was that the HTC repair service direct was better. I waited a week for my old carrier to email me a form for the repair. Previously HTC support did an excellent job. The glass problem is caused by bad manufacture so that the fascia are not true to the body of the phone. Also Please note that my HTC one had only a minor crack showing at the start. It got rapidly worse so I decided to return it. My point is that if u have an ill fitting fascia/gap/overhang then your phone could also get
worse/ let dust in so I would advise to return.
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Oh alright. Well, I don't know. Here in Norway I sent in my One X on a monday, and got it back the same week. Sent in my One on tuesday and my new One will be here tomorrow. I guess it differs.
These defects really aren't acceptable, so you should always return imo.

YorubaDey said:
Oh alright. Well, I don't know. Here in Norway I sent in my One X on a monday, and got it back the same week. Sent in my One on tuesday and my new One will be here tomorrow. I guess it differs.
These defects really aren't acceptable, so you should always return imo.
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Yes it appears thing are very different here in the uk. I have been trying to resolve this with htc since 10th July!! They parked (or in htc uk speak "escalated") my issue for almost a whole month. Today they are making their mind up (hopefully) to supply a replacement phone. It seems decisions in the uk are long winded.

zaphodbeeb said:
Yes it appears thing are very different here in the uk. I have been trying to resolve this with htc since 10th July!! They parked (or in htc uk speak "escalated") my issue for almost a whole month. Today they are making their mind up (hopefully) to supply a replacement phone. It seems decisions in the uk are long winded.
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Sad to hear that:/

redbull123 said:
He said it was high on one side and low on the other. I don't think it should be high either, mine is flush.
Sent from my HTC One using xda premium
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i know what he said , in my device its all high than the fascia

My phone has a screen protector on it and at the top it sticks proud of the phone but at the bottom it's flush which means the screen is sunk in at the bottom also the edges of the aluminum stick slightly proud of the plastic but I don't care the phone looks great and it's not impeading the phone in anyway.
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cokey77 said:
My phone has a screen protector on it and at the top it sticks proud of the phone but at the bottom it's flush which means the screen is sunk in at the bottom also the edges of the aluminum stick slightly proud of the plastic but I don't care the phone looks great and it's not impeading the phone in anyway.
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Thats what I thought. However, the crack around the phone got much worse so I reported to HTC July 10th. Apart from a dodgy repair from HTC which I will not accept, they have done nothing since JULY 10th with regards this. I am now thinking that my HTC experience is about done as I have lost faith in HTC service, and this awfully made phone. The S4 may be plastic, but I am confident that if it develops a problem it will be repaired/replaced efficiently without the aggravation I am getting from HTC. Really disappointed as I have been a HTC fan since the desire. The amount of my time, and HTC peoples time that has been spent on this must add up to more than the purchase price of the phone.
What I find really galling is that each time I speak to someone in HTC with regards this I have to remind them of their obligations under UK consumer law. By default they look for reasons not to fix the problem. Quite appalling.
They have thanked me for my continued patience with HTC with regards this matter. It seems HTC are on a mission to test the depths of my continued patience. Awful.

I agree with the above poster, HTC seem to go out of their way to make what should be a simple process very difficult.
I have just spoken to them because I have had two HTC Ones now, with a third on the way from the phone company after I spoke to HTC. Both the phones which got returned had chips in the glass near the metal body on the side, one had a dent, and the other had what looked like scrape marks on the white border bit.
HTC customer service told me they were not aware of any other complaints at all about the build quality (!). I then said well there are a lot of people on the internet who have posted about this. HTC responded with "everyone can post anything on the internet". I asked if presumably that meant that all the pictures posted showing issues were therefore faked, but they didn't answer on that.
To me it is very simple: the customer says they have a problem, the company says ok no problem, we will do everything we can to sort it out. Instead HTC argue, insinuate that I was making things up, and try to make it difficult.
I asked if I could send my poor quality handset to them, they can look at it then send me a new one out. I was told that they would indeed do this but if they could not repair it (which would be impressive if they can repair dents and so on) they would send me out a refurbished handset.
I said well I don't see how that works. I buy a phone which is damaged entirely due to your build process then send it back unused, then get offered what is in reality a second hand phone in exchange. Thus halving the value of my investment in one easy step, without ever actually using the damn thing.
The response: "That is the way we do things".

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dominic doha said:
I agree with the above poster, HTC seem to go out of their way to make what should be a simple process very difficult.
I have just spoken to them because I have had two HTC Ones now, with a third on the way from the phone company after I spoke to HTC. Both the phones which got returned had chips in the glass near the metal body on the side, one had a dent, and the other had what looked like scrape marks on the white border bit.
HTC customer service told me they were not aware of any other complaints at all about the build quality (!). I then said well there are a lot of people on the internet who have posted about this. HTC responded with "everyone can post anything on the internet". I asked if presumably that meant that all the pictures posted showing issues were therefore faked, but they didn't answer on that.
To me it is very simple: the customer says they have a problem, the company says ok no problem, we will do everything we can to sort it out. Instead HTC argue, insinuate that I was making things up, and try to make it difficult.
I asked if I could send my poor quality handset to them, they can look at it then send me a new one out. I was told that they would indeed do this but if they could not repair it (which would be impressive if they can repair dents and so on) they would send me out a refurbished handset.
I said well I don't see how that works. I buy a phone which is damaged entirely due to your build process then send it back unused, then get offered what is in reality a second hand phone in exchange. Thus halving the value of my investment in one easy step, without ever actually using the damn thing.
The response: "That is the way we do things".
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Hi, htc have decided to close my trouble ticket today because it has been escalated to senior management. From previous experience this is bad news as last time they forgot about the issue for a month. They have point blank refused to send me a replacement device, despite the fact that they have failed to act in a reasonable time, or fix the reported defect. I have discussed this with my network operator who have stated that they will need to repair the device up to three times before they can commit to providing a replacement. This is their standard process.
Luckily for me, I used mastercard to purchase and have been advised to make claim, given the defect and the appalling service to date. This will take up to a month, and they can insist on a replacement device.
Under UK legislation, for high ticket items like mobile phones, you have a right for the item to be free from manufacturers defect for a period of up to 6 years from date of purchase. Legislation also means that I have a right to demand a replacement device if reasonable efforts have been made by me to enable the device to be fixed, which I have. I have also been advised that it is not acceptable for a supplier to continually attempt repair.
I will never purchase another HTC product for fear of poor service, and they are just such high maintenance in the event of a problem.

It's shame, because I really like the phone from the day or so I have had to actually use it!
Vodafone have said they will give me a different phone next time if the build quality on No. 3 is still below standard. The only thing is I don't want an iPhone or an S4 at all. I got the HTC One because that was the one I liked.
But yes, I will also not be purchasing an HTC product ever again because of their frankly appalling attitude towards their customers. These days it is not enough to simple build a good product, people expect (rightly so) that any follow-up issues will be dealt with promptly and correctly. HTC do not do this so I'll be voting with my feet next time!

Hi, I also think that the HTC One is a great phone, if only HTC could supply me with one that does not have a manufacturing defect. Their last attempt at repair was not satisfactory, and their customer service is appalling. Yesterday they closed down my outstanding ticket with them as "that this case has now been escalated to higher management". Today I called to find out if there was any progress with this escalation, and to get a target resolution for this escalation, was promised a call back from a manager, but have heard nothing yet. Last time they escalated my issue it took 1 month of nothing, no feedback or progress. I suspect that escalating an issue actually means kicking it into the long grass. Anyhow, perseverance is obviously the nature of the game, and just to make sure, I opened another ticket for them, so they dont forget me again. Anyone would think that they don't have a legal obligation to make sure their products are free from manufacturers defect!
Now booked in for a second attempt at repair.

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Hi all,
Dealing with htc service has been a real pain. I unlocked the bootloader, so the first response from htc staff has been "out of warranty". (
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Sorry for OT but did they know about the bootloader from their database records (seeing your imei or serial number)? Or they examined the phone?

I told them the bootloader was unlocked. They would have found out anyhow, and in the case of a physical defect, it matters not in law. My understanding is that consumers of "high ticket items" should expect that the product is free from defect for 6 years.
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i've exatly the same problem !
http://www.forum-generationmobiles.net/t71067p15-info-aide-probleme-sav-htc-amazon#1236179 https://www.facebook.com/htcfr/posts/10200788414732459 https://www.facebook.com/htcfr/posts/10200788389051817 https://www.facebook.com/htcfr/posts/10200747955481003 https://www.facebook.com/htcfr/posts/648836941801497 https://www.google.fr/url?sa=t&rct=...=xyyIktOgXEykTYbkDGJ9_A&bvm=bv.52164340,d.ZG4 https://www.google.fr/url?sa=t&rct=...=gpxUO8lbtDTSZYh8mZ9IOg&bvm=bv.52164340,d.ZG4

lol seriously six years? I mean, we got two years in Germany, i find six a bit unreasonable...is that really UK law?

Crack on my screen

I have had my Note 3 for approx 2 weeks and I take great care of my devices and I have not had any fall or dropped my phone and carry it in my pocket with no other items eg keys etc.
I have just discovered a crack of the screen glass which runs form edge to edge in the top right corner by the front facing camera, what is even more baffling is that yesterday I placed a protective silicon case on the phone and there clearly has not been any impact but looks more like a stress crack. The case is a standard case that fits snugly but is not overtight.
As you can imagine I am seriously annoyed about this on a £600 phone and I really do not have the time to mess around with repairs, loan phones etc
Is there anybody else this has happened to?
Any advice suggestions do I contact Samsung or my Carrier which is O2 in the UK or general advice how best to deal with this.

Not had the screen crack but bottom right corner centre curve mine developed a tiny hairline split in the plastic didn't show on the outer edge or top face but if you looked on an angle in good light you could see it, also there was a gap on that corner very slight between the glass and fake plastic chrome. I ran a Stanley blade tip around the gap and it closed and the hair line crack isn't visible. My wife had the S3 before getting my mint titanium N2. The S3 also suffered from expansion contraction cracks in the fake aluminium banding, maybe due to the extreme temps here in Spain. I still think all the 5 minute reviewers were talking crap about the N2 plastic build quality, my old N2 still looks like new. I also hate the raised rim on the N3. The Note 2 felt edge less, very nice when swiping from the edge of the screen. The Note 3 feels like your playing inside a sand pit. The reason I bought the N2 titanium was soley because it didn't have the fake chrome. Any colour banding would have better than chrome, a gun metal like the N2 titanium would have been so much more premium looking.
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An update on this I have been to the O2 store twice now and they refuse point blank to replace the phone even though I am within the 14 day return window according to their TCs.
The manager at the store states that they cannot accept damaged phones I have now also noticed a rattle in the phone as previously stated the phone has not been dropped or subjected to any trauma and the casing is in pristine condiition. It should be obvious to anybody examining the phone that it has not been dropped or knocked as there would at least be some evidence of this on the external casing.
So now I am going to go through O2 complaints procedure and also contact Samsung to see if they can offer a resolution.
Any other advice that anyone can offer will be gratefully received.

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An update on this I have been to the O2 store twice now and they refuse point blank to replace the phone even though I am within the 14 day return window according to their TCs.
The manager at the store states that they cannot accept damaged phones I have now also noticed a rattle in the phone as previously stated the phone has not been dropped or subjected to any trauma and the casing is in pristine condiition. It should be obvious to anybody examining the phone that it has not been dropped or knocked as there would at least be some evidence of this on the external casing.
So now I am going to go through O2 complaints procedure and also contact Samsung to see if they can offer a resolution.
Any other advice that anyone can offer will be gratefully received.
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From your initial post, you have already stated you don't have time to deal with loaners etc... so I feel your pain! The problem is shoddy workmanship on the device. I have had a few friends with similar problems noticed within a week after purchasing the device. Fortunately, they had a good relationship with their mobile reseller so their devices were swapped out and the mobile reseller has a lot of pull with Samsung since they buy lots of product. Samsung does not wish to lose their retailer support so will assist with a vendor return (RMA) versus the general consumer.
My only suggestion is to try to deal with the store directly as you have done previously. If the manager is unwilling to be empathetic towards your situation, ask them who the regional or territory manager is for the store and request for their information. If they refuse to provide this or you do not get the results you were hoping for, I would communicate with Samsung directly and explain the situation. Mention you do not take kindly to paying "X" amount for a phone only to encounter this type of situation. Explain as a consumer, you must follow the retail policies when situations happen but it's these retailers who represent Samsung and their product lineup to the consumer worldwide. Ask what they can do for you directly as you have no support through the retail channels representing their brand.
I'm sure they will do something and if not through the front-line channels of customer support, ask to speak with a manager or team leader. If this gets you nowhere, on principle, I would buy a new device and would escalate the matter to Samsung headquarters directly through a letter sent by courier with signature required so you have proof of acceptance. If you do not get a response within a timely fashion, file a small claims writ and take Samsung to court on this basis. Most likely, they would simply send you a refund as court costs for them would far exceed the cost of device replacement or refund. A judgement in your favor or out of court settlement would be based on 100% proof the damage was not user initiated but instead, a factory defect.
Hope this helps!

Further update spoken with both O2 customer services and also Samsung who directed me to take it to their approved repair centre locally (run by a third party but branded Samsung) for inspection. I drove to this centre where one of the technicians took a look and said we cannot repair this as the screen is cracked. I restated that it is obvious from the condition of the phone it has not been misused and asked to speak to the manager who said that Samsung will not authorise any warranty repair for a damaged screen and I would need to contact them again.
This is what I did and they sent a reply paid jiffy bag to send to their inhouse repair centre and today I have received a reply stating that I will have to pay for the repair as the warranty does not cover physical damage. I am massively frustrated and disillusioned by this as neither Samsung or O2 want to take responsibility for this and I am struggling to Know what to do next.

To be fair, they have to protect themselves. If any customer who dropped a phone (not saying you did) could get a refund, they would either go broke, or have to charge us all a lot more.
Their conditions assume that some trauma occurred, but your situation appears to be the < 1% of situations where the fault is caused by a manufacturing fault, not user abuse. You only way is to 'prove' that no user abuse has occurred. As you say, the pristine nature of the shell does back that up, and the fact is that such faults can and will occur.
Only one thing may be important as well: is the silicon case very tight? I am thinking that if it is, that stress could have caused an existing flaw in the glass to extend into a fracture. Again, proving it is next to impossible, but I would keep going up the chain until they accept it, but keep calm and polite. Eventually they will give in, I suspect.

Very true about phones that get damaged by misuse and drops etc. I have again spoke to Samsung customer services and restated everything but seem to be going round in circles so I have pursued a formal complaint and will be sending in photos. Also will look to get a independent inspection report but as you say I will probably have to prove that misuse did not occur as they do need to protect themselves but as one of the unfortunates with a damaged screen not due to physical trauma or misuse it leaves me with an extermely poor view of Samsung and certainly as a consumer will look to other manaufacturers from now on.

Htc awful customer service and warranty department

Have purchased 8 HTC devices over the last 10 years and most recently the One M9. I was prepared to give HTC a chance when the press ridiculed them for lack of progress versus competitors.
My biggest problem was HTC's awful customer service/warranty department who when made aware of the sapphire glass on my rear camera failing would NOT repair it under warranty and told me that I would have to pay for it myself. The device has a Tempered Glass Protector on Screen and Camera along with a Spigen Case on top. My loyalty means nothing to HTC and I will NEVER spend my hard earned money on a HTC product again. I would NEVER recommend HTC to ANYONE and I can see now why the Company has gone into decline. Failure to look after Loyal customers will result in their demise when Samsung LG and Apple are vastly superior in this department.
My Galaxy S5 developed a problem with the rocker buttons and was fixed free of charge a full year into ownership. My iPhone 4s developed an issue with Battery and they simply replaced the device. HTC didn't want to know.
I feel that if this is how they treat their loyal customers then they simply deserve to fail. My hard earned money will be spent elsewhere from now on.
Have you guys had issues with HTC??? If you haven't yet considered a HTC device but might consider one then please do be careful.

jody04c said:
Have purchased 8 HTC devices over the last 10 years and most recently the One M9. I was prepared to give HTC a chance when the press ridiculed them for lack of progress versus competitors.
My biggest problem was HTC's awful customer service/warranty department who when made aware of the sapphire glass on my rear camera failing would NOT repair it under warranty and told me that I would have to pay for it myself. The device has a Tempered Glass Protector on Screen and Camera along with a Spigen Case on top. My loyalty means nothing to HTC and I will NEVER spend my hard earned money on a HTC product again. I would NEVER recommend HTC to ANYONE and I can see now why the Company has gone into decline. Failure to look after Loyal customers will result in their demise when Samsung LG and Apple are vastly superior in this department.
My Galaxy S5 developed a problem with the rocker buttons and was fixed free of charge a full year into ownership. My iPhone 4s developed an issue with Battery and they simply replaced the device. HTC didn't want to know.
I feel that if this is how they treat their loyal customers then they simply deserve to fail. My hard earned money will be spent elsewhere from now on.
Have you guys had issues with HTC??? If you haven't yet considered a HTC device but might consider one then please do be careful.
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I've had six M9's trying to get a phone without a bent frame around the screen! On the last one I thought that rather than return it to Amazon again, I would speak to HTC and see if they would fix the frame for me so I could keep it, as I really love the phone.
The customer service rep basically told me that I would have to pay for them to look at it and for any repairs made and that it was my fault for purchasing a cheap phone from Amazon and not from them directly.
So my reply was, do HTC make two versions of this phone, one cheap that has build quality problems and the other expensive which is perfect? She was confused and said all are the same?! Basically I told her that HTC have serious issues with this handset and she denied it. I highlighted the company is in trouble and that good service is needed to keep loyal customers from leaving, she didn't think HTC had any worries about it's business?! On complete denial about everything and no help at all.
So, long and short of it, I returned the handset to Amazon and will never go near HTC again. I used my local guy in China to source me a Nubia Z9 Mini so i can give the new IMX234 a go, as the camera looks bloody amazing, unlike the M9!

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I've had six M9's trying to get a phone without a bent frame around the screen! On the last one I thought that rather than return it to Amazon again, I would speak to HTC and see if they would fix the frame for me so I could keep it, as I really love the phone.
The customer service rep basically told me that I would have to pay for them to look at it and for any repairs made and that it was my fault for purchasing a cheap phone from Amazon and not from them directly.
So my reply was, do HTC make two versions of this phone, one cheap that has build quality problems and the other expensive which is perfect? She was confused and said all are the same?! Basically I told her that HTC have serious issues with this handset and she denied it. I highlighted the company is in trouble and that good service is needed to keep loyal customers from leaving, she didn't think HTC had any worries about it's business?! On complete denial about everything and no help at all.
So, long and short of it, I returned the handset to Amazon and will never go near HTC again. I used my local guy in China to source me a Nubia Z9 Mini so i can give the new IMX234 a go, as the camera looks bloody amazing, unlike the M9!
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Its no surprise they are a failing company when that is how they treat loyal customers who have a genuine quality control issue. The support from HTC is disgusting. I'm glad to hear they have lost another customer due to their awful support.

I have had zero problems with their customer service or warranty. In fact they corrected a problem sprint created. Everyone has a different experience. Samsung and apple both treated me like ****. Hell apple charged me for a phone I didn't even have lol had to go to court.
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Well there are also customers that drop their phone and it breaks glass, scratches, dents, dings, starts malfunctioning, etc....and then they call HTC and say it is defective and not their fault. Unfortunately HTC has no way of knowing who is lying and who is not. If they exchanged phones for every customer that claimed defect, they would be exchanging phones that people broke left and right. Certain things shouldn't come loose or start to rattle and if that starts happening they will know it is a defect once they get enough cases. Unfortunately with glass, it is the easiest and most common thing broken on a phone, so doing warranty replacements for broken glass is rare. A screen protector and case do nothing for protecting the camera glass. Most people this has happened to are blaming excessive heat. So I'm assuming you had your phone on the charger over night and it may have overheated from the charger. It would be nice if HTC would at least make an effort to investigate and see if this is possibly happening.

I've only had one experience with HTC customer service, but they replaced the pink tint camera on my M7 for just the labor costs even though it was out of warranty and two years old. YMMV, I guess.

I had this problem as well. It's like talking to a wall with these guys. If you say we will replace your phone no matter what the problem,no questions asked, than you best live up it. When I called, I was bombarded with questions and told I had to pay for them to fix it.

I'll just chime in with my own experience...
I had an HTC One Mini that developed hairline cracks in the plastic (this was a VERY common issue with this phone) and talking with HTC support was, like BR7fan said, talking to a freaking wall. They were totally unaware of the issue even though it was widely reported on XDA. They said they MIGHT be able to fix it for free, but they couldn't tell until they saw it (understandable). But there was a chance I'd have to pay for repair even though there was obviously damage related to neglect. Also, I work remotely, so I have to have my phone for work and the only option was for me to send it in and wait for repair. Anyway, I was frustrated and ended up taking the phone to an AT&T service center and sweet talking them to swap it out for me.
My second experience with HTC was more recent and much better. I had my M8 in my shirt pocket and bent over to pick something up and it slipped out onto the concrete. The glass cracked and there was damage to the metal body. This time I used chat support and the rep couldn't have been better to deal with. I told him what happened, and he checked and said I was eligible for a replacement under the screen replacement policy. I told him that the metal had also been damaged, and he asked me to describe the damage, and while he wouldn't say with 100% certainty that there wouldn't be a problem swapping it out (understandable since I could have been under-reporting the level of damage) he said kind of off the record that if the damage was as I described, there wouldn't be a problem. Anyway, they put a $599 hold on my card + $29 for overnight shipping and the next day I had my new M8 and sent my damaged one back. About a week later the hold was removed from my card.
Anyway, I've had awful CS experiences at a lot of places and then later had great ones. I think it's really hit or miss with these large corporations.
Finally, I think HTC is attempting to shift their warranty policy to be more liberal in replacing/repairing physically damaged phones and honoring warranty for unlocked ones. It seems like this shift isn't going as smoothly as some of us consumers would like.

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Hell apple charged me for a phone I didn't even have lol had to go to court.
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Please expand on that

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My gd had an iPhone 4 though att and paid for apple care and the whatnot. Well she lost the sim card for it (don't ask) and we had to go to att to replace it. The clerk dropped and broke her phone. Att said they would give her a new one without issue as it was 100% fault of the store clerk. Apple sent an email claiming she was commuting fraud and the video evidence that was sent was altered. Att fought with them and eventually won. Well they gave her the phone and everything was fine. Then apple sent an email and a bill through the mail for damages for an iPhone 5s that she didn't have and claimed they could prosecute her for fraud... Yea... In the end apple got her a 5s and she got to keep the 4 as way of a settlement. She could have really ****ed apple up.
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My gd had an iPhone 4 though att and paid for apple care and the whatnot. Well she lost the sim card for it (don't ask) and we had to go to att to replace it. The clerk dropped and broke her phone. Att said they would give her a new one without issue as it was 100% fault of the store clerk. Apple sent an email claiming she was commuting fraud and the video evidence that was sent was altered. Att fought with them and eventually won. Well they gave her the phone and everything was fine. Then apple sent an email and a bill through the mail for damages for an iPhone 5s that she didn't have and claimed they could prosecute her for fraud... Yea... In the end apple got her a 5s and she got to keep the 4 as way of a settlement. She could have really ****ed apple up.
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I think it goes to show how customer service can be inconsistent, which in itself is a problem.
My first 6plus had a sunken home button, so wouldn't 'click' as such and the edge of the hole in the glass where the button fits was sharp and uncomfortable to use. Walked in to my local Apple store and walked out with a brand new handset within 5mins, no questions asked.
Got my other half a iPhone 6 and had to return it as she won't move on from her G2, got a refund instantly, again no questions.
Anyone got any ideas how to get my wife away from the G2? Everything else I get for her to try she doesn't like because the bloody icons and app settings are different, between platforms and handsets!

andybg40 said:
I think it goes to show how customer service can be inconsistent, which in itself is a problem.
My first 6plus had a sunken home button, so wouldn't 'click' as such and the edge of the hole in the glass where the button fits was sharp and uncomfortable to use. Walked in to my local Apple store and walked out with a brand new handset within 5mins, no questions asked.
Got my other half a iPhone 6 and had to return it as she won't move on from her G2, got a refund instantly, again no questions.
Anyone got any ideas how to get my wife away from the G2? Everything else I get for her to try she doesn't like because the bloody icons and app settings are different, between platforms and handsets!
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Yeah, too often it seem to depend on what CSR you get, and how their supervisor has been behaving that week.
I've twice had to get the trackpad on my MBP replaced, both times were my fault (too much eating and drinking at my desk :silly, and both times Apple fixed it no questions asked under the protection plan.

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Anyone got any ideas how to get my wife away from the G2? Everything else I get for her to try she doesn't like because the bloody icons and app settings are different, between platforms and handsets!
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When you figure that out pls share the secret!
My wife has a freaking blackberry z10!!! That she doesn't want to give up because "everything is set up how she wants it".....
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I can tell you that Apple is undoubtedly the BEST in the service and support department! I just don't understand how these other companies can't see how simple it is and just do it the way Apple does! I mean, it makes me not want to buy another Samsung, LG or HTC product, because ALL of them I have had issues with at one point or another. The one time I had an issue with Apple I was so pissed off that I called in to customer care and spoke to a manager about the problem that I had at a store nearby. She saw that I had purchased about 10 Apple devices in the last 8 years or so, and gave me $150 credit for Apple accessories and also next day aired me a brand new 6 Plus because the Apple store would not replace it after I was having problems and I just got done spending almost a grand for the damn thing! These phones are expensive, and if these companies can't take care of us then go somewhere else because someone is willing to take care of you the right way! Just like this G4 I have that has marks on the display due to a screen coating issue at the plant. Because it;s an International model they won't touch it! WOW I understand that companies don't honor some warranties when you buy an imported phone, but when it's 3 days old and the phone just came out and it has defects that are 100% LG's fault, they should have just told me to send the damn thing in and they would fix it, now they lost my business! That just cost them quite a bit considering I buy EVERY damn flagship that comes out! (almost) They don't care though.... -END OF RANT-

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I'll just chime in with my own experience...
I had an HTC One Mini that developed hairline cracks in the plastic (this was a VERY common issue with this phone) and talking with HTC support was, like BR7fan said, talking to a freaking wall. They were totally unaware of the issue even though it was widely reported on XDA. They said they MIGHT be able to fix it for free, but they couldn't tell until they saw it (understandable).
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Uh they ARE aware of that, I talked about it with people from HTC (and Elevate) and they fixed my border without hassle (though I got a border back that's in even worse shape, but I blame Dynafix for that, not HTC.)

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Uh they ARE aware of that, I talked about it with people from HTC (and Elevate) and they fixed my border without hassle (though I got a border back that's in even worse shape, but I blame Dynafix for that, not HTC.)
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Sorry, I should have clarified. This was about a month or two after they came out.

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Sorry, I should have clarified. This was about a month or two after they came out.
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Ah yeah, my request was like a year after release.
But come on, if it was only a month or 2 after release it could be expected that they (the support) wasn't aware of that. Because at first hearing about it, HTC will most likely just sit by and keep eye on it, see if many experience it (as in a certain % compared to sold devices) and then decide to undertake action or just play ffin stupid.
Support can't be blamed with that, they just followed order

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Ah yeah, my request was like a year after release.
But come on, if it was only a month or 2 after release it could be expected that they (the support) wasn't aware of that. Because at first hearing about it, HTC will most likely just sit by and keep eye on it, see if many experience it (as in a certain % compared to sold devices) and then decide to undertake action or just play ffin stupid.
Support can't be blamed with that, they just followed order
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I wasn't blaming the person. There was already a thread on XDA aboout the issue, but I imagine CS reps are discouraged from acknowledging internet speculation. I was frustrated with the system that was going to make me send my phone in for repair rather than them sending me a new one (with a CC hold, obviously) and then me sending the defective one back. I guess it wasn't clear in my post, but I use this phone for work and didn't have a backup.

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Haha, you should. It's exactly as you say it is to the company "just speculation", companies always use bull**** like "only vocal minority" to deceive others. So they rather keep it quiet and ignore forums like this on purpose

I owned a beautiful metallic red HTC One m7 untill recently. It was rooted + BL unlocked (not S-off) since day1 and never ran stock rom. I started noticing all the pictures were out of focus and that camera was stuck in macro mode. I took it back to shop for warranty (it was 1y 8 months old) and they sent it back to HTC for repair. Bootloader showed Relock and it was on an old stock rom nandroid that I found from internet
Almost 3 weeks later it was back, with new camera that was excellent again. They updated to latest Lollipop rom even, with BL still in relock. However they messed up upper speaker grill as the metal was no longer flush with body (stuck out enough to be clearly felt by finger when swiping on screen). I took it back to shop, complained and it got sent away again.
Another 2,5 weeks go by and I get the phone back. This time HTC completely changed the body and screen. It was like having a brand new One M7 in beautiful red. It had still same motherboard and still relock BL. However.... they forgot to install/connect the headset speaker.. so I had no sound when calling someone >_>. Back to shop, complain, explain and return the phone..
So a week later I got the phone back. Except I didnt get the phone back. What I got back was a 32GB M9 in gunmetal grey. I am both happy to have a proper upgrade and for free, a little sad to see my lovely M7 taken from me and quite disappointed in the QC of HTC repair centres.