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HTC One build quality... Cracks, Gaps, Wonky Glass and overhangs - One (M7) General

Hi all,
been having some real fun and games with my htc one. Some things to look out for if you are planning on picking up a new htc one. It took htc over a month to arrange a repair of the device and when it was returned the "crack" between the front fascia had been made smaller but was still present, so its going back yet again (what fun).
The front glass at the top is still not fitted correctly, and the fascia overhangs at one end and underhangs at the other.
When I first got the phone, I did notice the crack, but ignored it.As a few weeks went by I noticed the crack was getting bigger so I decided to return the phone.
I personally think that the body of the device has not been machined properly, so despite HTC attempting to repair, the problem persists. I have requested a replacement phone this time from HTC.
Dealing with htc service has been a real pain. I unlocked the bootloader, so the first response from htc staff has been "out of warranty". As I have had to remind HTC several times, it does not matter if the bootloader is unlocked in the event of a manufacturing defect. This was "escalated" by htc and after 1 month there was still no resolution. I had to remind them of uk consumer law before they eventually undertook the warranty "repair".

the glass shoulb be higher than the fascia

Nightf0x_007 said:
the glass shoulb be higher than the fascia
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He said it was high on one side and low on the other. I don't think it should be high either, mine is flush.
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My glass is high on the top and low on the bottom. It is subtle enough that it doesn't bother me, and it definitely isn't as bad as some of the stories I was hearing before I bought mine.

Well, I didn't have any similar issue to you guys, but my One had a scratch on the back, along with 2 very small notches, plus a very small piece of some tape or something sticking out of the metal to the right of the bottom speaker. I highy doubt it could've come from my pocket as it was completely stuck, so maybe there was a gap. It also had static noise during calls.
Sent it back and waiting for a new one.
(Why didn't you go through your retailer btw? It's much more effective).

My previous experience was that the HTC repair service direct was better. I waited a week for my old carrier to email me a form for the repair. Previously HTC support did an excellent job. The glass problem is caused by bad manufacture so that the fascia are not true to the body of the phone. Also Please note that my HTC one had only a minor crack showing at the start. It got rapidly worse so I decided to return it. My point is that if u have an ill fitting fascia/gap/overhang then your phone could also get
worse/ let dust in so I would advise to return.
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zaphodbeeb said:
My previous experience was that the HTC repair service direct was better. I waited a week for my old carrier to email me a form for the repair. Previously HTC support did an excellent job. The glass problem is caused by bad manufacture so that the fascia are not true to the body of the phone. Also Please note that my HTC one had only a minor crack showing at the start. It got rapidly worse so I decided to return it. My point is that if u have an ill fitting fascia/gap/overhang then your phone could also get
worse/ let dust in so I would advise to return.
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Oh alright. Well, I don't know. Here in Norway I sent in my One X on a monday, and got it back the same week. Sent in my One on tuesday and my new One will be here tomorrow. I guess it differs.
These defects really aren't acceptable, so you should always return imo.

YorubaDey said:
Oh alright. Well, I don't know. Here in Norway I sent in my One X on a monday, and got it back the same week. Sent in my One on tuesday and my new One will be here tomorrow. I guess it differs.
These defects really aren't acceptable, so you should always return imo.
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Yes it appears thing are very different here in the uk. I have been trying to resolve this with htc since 10th July!! They parked (or in htc uk speak "escalated") my issue for almost a whole month. Today they are making their mind up (hopefully) to supply a replacement phone. It seems decisions in the uk are long winded.

zaphodbeeb said:
Yes it appears thing are very different here in the uk. I have been trying to resolve this with htc since 10th July!! They parked (or in htc uk speak "escalated") my issue for almost a whole month. Today they are making their mind up (hopefully) to supply a replacement phone. It seems decisions in the uk are long winded.
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Sad to hear that:/

redbull123 said:
He said it was high on one side and low on the other. I don't think it should be high either, mine is flush.
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i know what he said , in my device its all high than the fascia

My phone has a screen protector on it and at the top it sticks proud of the phone but at the bottom it's flush which means the screen is sunk in at the bottom also the edges of the aluminum stick slightly proud of the plastic but I don't care the phone looks great and it's not impeading the phone in anyway.
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cokey77 said:
My phone has a screen protector on it and at the top it sticks proud of the phone but at the bottom it's flush which means the screen is sunk in at the bottom also the edges of the aluminum stick slightly proud of the plastic but I don't care the phone looks great and it's not impeading the phone in anyway.
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Thats what I thought. However, the crack around the phone got much worse so I reported to HTC July 10th. Apart from a dodgy repair from HTC which I will not accept, they have done nothing since JULY 10th with regards this. I am now thinking that my HTC experience is about done as I have lost faith in HTC service, and this awfully made phone. The S4 may be plastic, but I am confident that if it develops a problem it will be repaired/replaced efficiently without the aggravation I am getting from HTC. Really disappointed as I have been a HTC fan since the desire. The amount of my time, and HTC peoples time that has been spent on this must add up to more than the purchase price of the phone.
What I find really galling is that each time I speak to someone in HTC with regards this I have to remind them of their obligations under UK consumer law. By default they look for reasons not to fix the problem. Quite appalling.
They have thanked me for my continued patience with HTC with regards this matter. It seems HTC are on a mission to test the depths of my continued patience. Awful.

I agree with the above poster, HTC seem to go out of their way to make what should be a simple process very difficult.
I have just spoken to them because I have had two HTC Ones now, with a third on the way from the phone company after I spoke to HTC. Both the phones which got returned had chips in the glass near the metal body on the side, one had a dent, and the other had what looked like scrape marks on the white border bit.
HTC customer service told me they were not aware of any other complaints at all about the build quality (!). I then said well there are a lot of people on the internet who have posted about this. HTC responded with "everyone can post anything on the internet". I asked if presumably that meant that all the pictures posted showing issues were therefore faked, but they didn't answer on that.
To me it is very simple: the customer says they have a problem, the company says ok no problem, we will do everything we can to sort it out. Instead HTC argue, insinuate that I was making things up, and try to make it difficult.
I asked if I could send my poor quality handset to them, they can look at it then send me a new one out. I was told that they would indeed do this but if they could not repair it (which would be impressive if they can repair dents and so on) they would send me out a refurbished handset.
I said well I don't see how that works. I buy a phone which is damaged entirely due to your build process then send it back unused, then get offered what is in reality a second hand phone in exchange. Thus halving the value of my investment in one easy step, without ever actually using the damn thing.
The response: "That is the way we do things".

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dominic doha said:
I agree with the above poster, HTC seem to go out of their way to make what should be a simple process very difficult.
I have just spoken to them because I have had two HTC Ones now, with a third on the way from the phone company after I spoke to HTC. Both the phones which got returned had chips in the glass near the metal body on the side, one had a dent, and the other had what looked like scrape marks on the white border bit.
HTC customer service told me they were not aware of any other complaints at all about the build quality (!). I then said well there are a lot of people on the internet who have posted about this. HTC responded with "everyone can post anything on the internet". I asked if presumably that meant that all the pictures posted showing issues were therefore faked, but they didn't answer on that.
To me it is very simple: the customer says they have a problem, the company says ok no problem, we will do everything we can to sort it out. Instead HTC argue, insinuate that I was making things up, and try to make it difficult.
I asked if I could send my poor quality handset to them, they can look at it then send me a new one out. I was told that they would indeed do this but if they could not repair it (which would be impressive if they can repair dents and so on) they would send me out a refurbished handset.
I said well I don't see how that works. I buy a phone which is damaged entirely due to your build process then send it back unused, then get offered what is in reality a second hand phone in exchange. Thus halving the value of my investment in one easy step, without ever actually using the damn thing.
The response: "That is the way we do things".
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Hi, htc have decided to close my trouble ticket today because it has been escalated to senior management. From previous experience this is bad news as last time they forgot about the issue for a month. They have point blank refused to send me a replacement device, despite the fact that they have failed to act in a reasonable time, or fix the reported defect. I have discussed this with my network operator who have stated that they will need to repair the device up to three times before they can commit to providing a replacement. This is their standard process.
Luckily for me, I used mastercard to purchase and have been advised to make claim, given the defect and the appalling service to date. This will take up to a month, and they can insist on a replacement device.
Under UK legislation, for high ticket items like mobile phones, you have a right for the item to be free from manufacturers defect for a period of up to 6 years from date of purchase. Legislation also means that I have a right to demand a replacement device if reasonable efforts have been made by me to enable the device to be fixed, which I have. I have also been advised that it is not acceptable for a supplier to continually attempt repair.
I will never purchase another HTC product for fear of poor service, and they are just such high maintenance in the event of a problem.

It's shame, because I really like the phone from the day or so I have had to actually use it!
Vodafone have said they will give me a different phone next time if the build quality on No. 3 is still below standard. The only thing is I don't want an iPhone or an S4 at all. I got the HTC One because that was the one I liked.
But yes, I will also not be purchasing an HTC product ever again because of their frankly appalling attitude towards their customers. These days it is not enough to simple build a good product, people expect (rightly so) that any follow-up issues will be dealt with promptly and correctly. HTC do not do this so I'll be voting with my feet next time!

Hi, I also think that the HTC One is a great phone, if only HTC could supply me with one that does not have a manufacturing defect. Their last attempt at repair was not satisfactory, and their customer service is appalling. Yesterday they closed down my outstanding ticket with them as "that this case has now been escalated to higher management". Today I called to find out if there was any progress with this escalation, and to get a target resolution for this escalation, was promised a call back from a manager, but have heard nothing yet. Last time they escalated my issue it took 1 month of nothing, no feedback or progress. I suspect that escalating an issue actually means kicking it into the long grass. Anyhow, perseverance is obviously the nature of the game, and just to make sure, I opened another ticket for them, so they dont forget me again. Anyone would think that they don't have a legal obligation to make sure their products are free from manufacturers defect!
Now booked in for a second attempt at repair.

zaphodbeeb said:
Hi all,
Dealing with htc service has been a real pain. I unlocked the bootloader, so the first response from htc staff has been "out of warranty". (
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Sorry for OT but did they know about the bootloader from their database records (seeing your imei or serial number)? Or they examined the phone?

I told them the bootloader was unlocked. They would have found out anyhow, and in the case of a physical defect, it matters not in law. My understanding is that consumers of "high ticket items" should expect that the product is free from defect for 6 years.
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i've exatly the same problem !
http://www.forum-generationmobiles.net/t71067p15-info-aide-probleme-sav-htc-amazon#1236179 https://www.facebook.com/htcfr/posts/10200788414732459 https://www.facebook.com/htcfr/posts/10200788389051817 https://www.facebook.com/htcfr/posts/10200747955481003 https://www.facebook.com/htcfr/posts/648836941801497 https://www.google.fr/url?sa=t&rct=...=xyyIktOgXEykTYbkDGJ9_A&bvm=bv.52164340,d.ZG4 https://www.google.fr/url?sa=t&rct=...=gpxUO8lbtDTSZYh8mZ9IOg&bvm=bv.52164340,d.ZG4

lol seriously six years? I mean, we got two years in Germany, i find six a bit unreasonable...is that really UK law?

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Please look at the photo.
I just wonder is this just the protective layer of paint or some coating that I should peel off, any other user's experience the same ?
i have reported to HTC, waiting for reply... But I m not in the country that I ve bought the phone now... I wonder can I swap it like 6 months later if it's manufacturing defect.
Update 03/01/2010:
I got a reply from HTC:
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According to the picture you provide, there should be slight appearance abrase in the button. Taking of this small layer of plastic would not affect the function of the phone. you may either leave it as it is or take it off. Thank you for your cooperation.
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Update 04/01/2020:
I follow HTC instruction and peel/scratch away the coating of the HOME button only with finger nails.
The metallic effect's gone, and become just a normal black plastic key.
There are lots of micro lines on the button which cannot be seen on the photo.
It is still acceptable, just that I m not happy about a flag ship device's paint/coating came off so easily.
These are the photos
http://picasaweb.google.com/uccoffee.forum/20100104#
The button actually look nice without the coating in the photo comparing with the one next to it which the coating is coming off.
I m thinking should/can I ask for buttons replacement, or it is just a waste of time cos those buttons coating will eventually come off after excessive use.
i still love my HD2 , just a bit sad about so many problems
Update 05/01/2020:
i got HTC reply, nothing much they can help since I m not in Hong Kong.
Anyway, the girl from HTC said there was no one complain about the key's paint coming off.... I just wonder can those people who 's got problem and voted yes, would you mind at least send a complain letter to HTC please.
http://www.htc.com/hk-en/CS_Mail.aspx

yep my button is peeling too I had it 4 2 weeks

no problems here. hd2 is 6 weeks old ...

It's the metallic coating, if scratched away, it looks very plastic. ...

Simililar things have happened to my keypad in less than 2 weeks, and I always put it in its pouch. Guess we aren't lucky

not yet
I only use my HD2 since ~10 days, and do not have this exact problem, yet.
With my previous device (HTC Touch Pro) however, I had a lot of problems with peeling off coating (in TP case it was the plack paint peeling off the housing).
I also have the problem, that I use to buy my devices in Europe with WWE roms, and then take them with me to Japan, where I currently live.
This constellation is a nightmare for warranty return/repair with HTC, as they ask you to sent your device to where you bought it.
To avoid shipping my defect device helf way around the world, I last time decided to send my TP to HTC global repair centre in Taiwan.
They did the repair and they did it quick, but you don't want to know how much that cost me.
As soon as my HD2 starts loosing paint or coating, it will contact HTC global rapair in Taiwan again, but this time I will not accept to pay for the repair but push for good will.
The world gets smaller and smaller, customers do not stay in regions where they purchase devies. It is time for companies like HTC to adapt.
My girlfriend bought an Apple iBook in the US. In the menatime we moved to UK, Belgium and now to Japan.
She had warranty repair done to her iBook in all of those contires without an problem, so it should also be possible for HTC, if they just were a little bit more end customer oriented, but now that they try to market HTC as a brand, maybe it will come.
As a customer paying 500+ EUR for their products, I will not take NO for an answer.

Mine is actually worse than the photo in this post. I thought it was a temporary cover when it started to come away, like some buttons/screens have when a phone is brand new.

max1274, how bad is it? post some pic if possible
I only had my HD2 for 30 days....

I use my hd2 for five weeks, no problems so far. Hope to stay that way.

Its not even that bad, but yes very thin layers go off around the edges

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Same here pal, it happened on my diamond as well.
**** happens i suppose

6 weeks... no problem

Damn.. Seeing things like these makes me want to go back to the shop and return it! Mine doesn't have anything but I am "EXTRA" careful with it but if it has happened to so many people it will probably happen to mine to. I cant stand paying 669€ (Portuguese value) for a phone that doesn't keep it together!
I get mad with these kind of problems!

Mine looks fine, had it since 24/12/09.
Touch wood it stays ok. Hope the guys with problems can get it sorted via HTC without niggles.
Please keep us posted on if you can get HTC to fix it.

Mines fine as well. But you know, the early batches of the HD had surface coating scratch, crack and chip problems. I bought my HD2 a month after they were first offered in the US, hoping to avoid the common problems, which were mostly ROM, but now I think maybe I dodged the bullet on this as well.

aro said:
To avoid shipping my defect device helf way around the world, I last time decided to send my TP to HTC global repair centre in Taiwan.
They did the repair and they did it quick, but you don't want to know how much that cost me.
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Actually I would like to know.

Ibb1982 said:
Mine looks fine, had it since 24/12/09.
Touch wood it stays ok. Hope the guys with problems can get it sorted via HTC without niggles.
Please keep us posted on if you can get HTC to fix it.
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I was wrong! I checked my phone at night, and guess I couldn't see the minor peeling I have on the home button. Now I've seen in proper daylight I can see mine is peeling.
This sucks big time. Anyone have any feedback from HTC?
I've also sent a support request via email from the HTC website via http://www.htc.com/uk/CS_Mail.aspx , hope they get back to all of us soon.

Got a response from HTC
HTC are quick, within 2 hours I received a response to the peeling issue:
"We are very surprised to hear that you have an issue with our HTC handset.
If you are within 30 days of purchase, you can book our handset for a DOA (Dead on Arrival) via the retailer. Everything that came with the phone including the box will need to be returned. A DOA can only be booked if there is no mis-use or damage found on the handset.
If you are outside of 30 days, please call us in order to book a repair service.
http://www.htc.com/europe/CA_Hotline.aspx
Please note that the repair centre will need to see the device before diagnosing whether the fault is covered by the Warranty or not. We can not specify a cost until the repair centre has seen it first.
Please see full DOA/Exchange Procedure below if you are within 30 days of purchase:
We can have the device repaired for you, however if you wish to exchange the device and it is less than 30 days old, please return it to the point of purchase for exchange.
The retailer may not be willing to exchange your device depending on the terms of sale you have agreed with them, this is their right and HTC cannot intervene on your behalf.
If an exchange is refused by your retailer then we can still arrange a repair for the device, but we cannot exchange it.
In the event that a repair becomes necessary and you do not wish to arrange it with your retailer please call quoting your reference number (e2e ref) if you have one.
Thank you.
-If these steps have not helped, please let me know by responding using the link provided and I will be happy to check again for you.
Best regards,
HTC Customer Support Team "

Why would we want to send our handsets for repair, only to have them fit the exact-same button unit. The same thing will happen again. Once we know HTC have manufactured new non-peeling buttons, that's when the repairs should take place. Painting buttons is stupid, why not just make them out of black plastic and have done with it.

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Why would we want to send our handsets for repair, only to have them fit the exact-same button unit. The same thing will happen again. Once we know HTC have manufactured new non-peeling buttons, that's when the repairs should take place. Painting buttons is stupid, why not just make them out of black plastic and have done with it.
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Until they see them though, they're not going to think its a problem. Catch 22 all the way!

As a few of you know I broke my phone a couple of weeks back. And I'm at the point now where I have decided that I need a thread to ***** and moan about my insurance company.
They received my phone on the 21st of June and took my excess and told me the turn around time was 10 days. So day 10 I call up to find out what is going on.
Because the insurers haven't got heard from the repair centre they will automatically send me a replacement. Call today and they don't have a replacement available so will spend the next 5 days looking for one. If they can't find one they will look at a different handset.
This has me worried, I do not under any circumstances want a phone without a hardware keyboard, obviously it needs to be android and must be rootable and have good dev support. I would be interested if anyone can recommend a handset apart from the G2/DZ that fulfills these requirements.
Also using there timeframe the worst case scenario is that the total time I could be without my phone is a month. Which I consider unacceptable given that I pay £10p/m for what is supposed to be one of the best products available in the UK. And I say that because I have to sell this product as a part of my job.
It's a joke.
Feel free to sympathise with me or ***** and moan about your experiences with insurance company's.
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I dont really have no recommendations for ya (sorry), but i hear ya i would be upset too.

Check this list
Other than that... You could get an Iphone and buy a Slider Keyboard case

File a complaint...
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Check this list
Other than that... You could get an Iphone and buy a Slider Keyboard case
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LOL! iPhone, your funny But seriously its a good list of phones, but Sony is out of the question, I like some Motorola handsets but do any of them have unlocked bootloaders? And a lot of them handsets are not available in the UK
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File a complaint...
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Have every intention of it, I'm in the process of drafting a letter of complaint

Feel your pain...
When my previous phone (HTC Kaiser) went bad and had to be sent in for warranty repair, I was resigned to going back to my stupid dumb-phone for three weeks and I almost went crazy.
If something were to happen to my Desire Z, I'd be seriously tempted to buy a new one with over-night shipping (no decent phone stores around here), then send the other in for service. I'd just keep the old repaired one for a spare, or sell it.

soory to hear that cj.
Hopefully your insurance company gets their crap together and gets you a replacement asap. Have you ever thought of calling them with a direct threat thatyou will file a complaint to whatever governing department about their incompetency?I can't see how hard it can be to get a replacement for you. FFS they could've easily bought you a new one and send it toyou rather than wasting time trying to find a refurbished unit.

I heard someone once say that insurance is like making a bet that something bad might happen, but seems like you didn't even get a payout when something did happen! £10pm? Sounds like a ripoff.
In your letter of complaint, you can drop in that if they continue not to honour their contract with you, you will take this up with the Financial Ombudsman Service. More info about them here: http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/reclaim/fight-back-fos
The Financial Ombudsman Service website itself also has advice on how to handle complaining before you refer to them:
http://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/faq/answers/complaints_a1.html#1
Good luck!

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I heard someone once say that insurance is like making a bet that something bad might happen, but seems like you didn't even get a payout when something did happen! £10pm? Sounds like a ripoff.
In your letter of complaint, you can drop in that if they continue not to honour their contract with you, you will take this up with the Financial Ombudsman Service. More info about them here: http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/reclaim/fight-back-fos
The Financial Ombudsman Service website itself also has advice on how to handle complaining before you refer to them:
http://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/faq/answers/complaints_a1.html#1
Good luck!
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Cheers for the links. I have decided to give them until Tuesday before I start going down the the root of making a complaint. If they are unable to offer me suitable replacement handset on Tuesday, I then intend to make a complaint.
I do have another card up my sleeve and its not one that I wanted to play but I may consider it. I work for the UK's second largest mobile phone retailer* and as such the insurance product I have is also the one that I have to sell on a day to day basis. We have it drummed in to our heads that this is one of the best products in country in terms of value for money and the level of cover that it offers.So how am I supposed to sell this supposedly fantastic product when my experience with it has be about the terrible. I am an honest person and do tell things as they are and in all good faith I could not recommended this insurance product given my poor experience with it.
So I'm wondering if I don't get the desired outcome on Tuesday should I tell them this and would it actually help? My guess is no but it is another thing for me to consider
*I wont mention the name but its the company where I work, but we are perceived as wide boys and con men and we have really bad TV advertising. Anyone in the UK should know who I mean

I have just finished writing my letter of complaint. For some reason though I had been locked out of my online account so was unable retrieve my policy id and my claim number. So I called them up and got a surprise. A new handset is on its way to me, i should have it by the end of the week

cjward23 said:
I have just finished writing my letter of complaint. For some reason though I had been locked out of my online account so was unable retrieve my policy id and my claim number. So I called them up and got a surprise. A new handset is on its way to me, i should have it by the end of the week
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Result!
Glad they finally moved on this.

Received my replacement handset today. Got it rooted and virtuous unity running. Wife calls me, volume is on loud but no sound comes out the speaker. Try some music and nothing.
Also the information label under the battery was almost falling off, the void sticker was missing and all of the visible screws looked like they had been unscrewed with an axe.
I now have to wait for a courier to collect the broken phone and wait for them to ship me another replacement.
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Oh no. Giving you a damaged refurb is totally unprofessional. Words fail me.
Hope you get better luck with the next one, but keep that letter handy...

personally, i think this company needs a kick in the you know where.
I say give them 1 last chance for the 2nd replacement phone. if it's as craptastic as the first one, then send in the letter.
or you can play "super pissed off customer" and demand a brand new one for their incompetence

you can try the tmobile my touch 4g slide.

evilcuber said:
you can try the tmobile my touch 4g slide.
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Not available in the UK.
I'm really pissed off. I wish I had checked that it was all working before I rooted. There is an hour I will never get back.
But I'm definitely writing to them now. The chances of me getting a phone this week are minimal. And a month without a phone is unacceptable.
And I'm really really bored with without it
Sent from a phone that is not a HTC Desire Z

Broken phone has now been collected. And letter of complaint has been sent.
Thanks everyone for the support and advice.
Sent from a phone that is not a HTC Desire Z

I have had a horrible problem with HTC. My new desire z broke after 2 days of me having it. I sent it off to get repaired. When it came back it was scratched and dented so I complained. They agreed to replace the parts to say sorry. But it has been 5 weeks since I sent the phone to them and I still do not have it. This is because they have changed repair centers they said. It isn't good enough so after a lot of moaning they are sending me and incredible s which is good as I am not bothered about a hardware QWERTY. Still not good enough from HTC.

how did you even break the phone in 2 days? It sounds like you abused it somehow.

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Received my replacement handset today. Got it rooted and virtuous unity running. Wife calls me, volume is on loud but no sound comes out the speaker. Try some music and nothing.
Also the information label under the battery was almost falling off, the void sticker was missing and all of the visible screws looked like they had been unscrewed with an axe.
I now have to wait for a courier to collect the broken phone and wait for them to ship me another replacement.
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That sucks
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As the title suggests, I have a screen defect on my Galaxy Note 2. I swear, I did not do this. I have never dropped my phone, I've had an otterbox case since I've bought it. I cherished my little gem, always put her down gently. I never threw it about, I was far beyond cautious.
Anyway, the issue happened sometime on Sunday the 2nd of December between the hours of 06:15 and 10:00am. During the early hours of a British morning; It was around -5c where I live. Before I left at 5:00am, the phone was in pristine condition. Not a single hair, speck of dust or fingerprint gleaming in the light. I had this in my pocket for the journey and came home at the mention hours, (6:15am.) I then placed my Galaxy Note 2 on my bench press bench, and went back to bed. Upon waking, to my horror; There was this monstrosity of a crack. Now, I know there are many naysayers around, "Glass just wont crack on its own, HURH," but let me tell you, it can.
As soon as I noticed this crack, I was straight on the phone to my service provider (Which is O2-UK,) and booked it in for a repair / collection. All was dandy, it was collected and arrived at the service center. Now, today - on the 4th of December 2012; They are saying that I am out of warranty. At this comment, I saw red. This is a 3 month phone, pristine condition; No marks, no bashes IMMACULATE bar the screen. I wrote out a detailed report stating what has happened but to no avail. The supposed, "Engineer" at the O2 repair center has filed the report of, "Accidental damage."
Now, in what way is that accidental damage? I CLEARLY stated what happened, I even went as far to get an Affidavit at my own expense. I then asked if I could have the engineer's report, but no. As an O2 customer, we are not allowed the filed, "Reports" that ascertain to our own property. I quoted segments of the Data protection act, as well as legislation and regulations of the Sales of Goods Act of 1979 (amended,) which clearly state that I am well within my rights. I was quoted £110 for the screen repair but hell will freeze over before I pay that.
I'm without a phone now, I can easily get it back if I pay the fees. I have wrote a formal letter, as well as an email stating that they are in fact in breach of the Sales of Goods Act, as well as the Data Protection Act. I have given them a week to reply to my letter. I am going to be seeing a solicitor in the coming days, as well as the CAB (Citizens advice bureau,) just to get support.
To reiterate this thread: I have not damaged my phone in any way. This is clearly a manufacturing defect which O2 are held responsible for, (See the Sales of Goods Act. The retailer (In this case O2,) is held liable for checking every product they sell.)
I shall keep you kind folks posted as to what happens. However, for now; I am not paying my pay monthly bill until this is sorted. As I told the O2 representative this; I was informed that I would have legal action taken against me. What do I say? Bring it on.
EDIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dc9c5YFyovU <--- This video shows what the Galaxy Note 2 can withstand. This is my silver lining to win this case. The phone is not for the purpose of, despite what Samsung say. Win

Not taking sides, but I'll say this; a similar thing happened with my HOX but HTC sent me a brand new one. I've yet to have a problem with my Note but can only hope Samsung will be as good as HTC with returns. But for every good case you hear of a bad one.
Regardless - I feel your pain. Good luck.
BTW I bought both my OneX and my Note via O2 (yes I have 2 running redundant contracts) but I didn't go through O2 with my problems. I'd rather slam me knob in a car door.
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jetsetwilly said:
Not taking sides, but I'll say this; a similar thing happened with my HOX but HTC sent me a brand new one. I've yet to have a problem with my Note but can only hope Samsung will be as good as HTC with returns. But for every good case you hear of a bad one.
Regardless - I feel your pain. Good luck.
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Cheers man. When you drop a phone, you'd expect the screen to spider. This is not the case. It's an immaculate hairline fracture. I'm debating whether to get them to send it back to me, so I can take pictures and document it further. During this, I can get it repaired third party and charge O2. I really don't know until I get a reply. All I can say is i'm fuming.

I would focus some attention to how apple deal with hairline cracks on their handsets and ipod touch's. They can tell what is caused from a manufacturing defect and what is accidental damage.
Also ask if O2's own repair facility checked the phone or Samsung themselves. If not the later get the phone back and send it Samsung.
S.
Sent from my Samsung Note II.

Tomo1971 said:
I would focus some attention to how apple deal with hairline cracks on their handsets and ipod touch's. They can tell what is caused from a manufacturing defect and what is accidental damage.
Also ask if O2's own repair facility checked the phone or Samsung themselves. If not the later get the phone back and send it Samsung.
S.
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It's O2's repair center that have my phone. I can't send it to Samsung, as they aren't binded by the regulations which I have described. O2 are in breach of 3 regulations, all in one day.
I have since resent another email showing the video that I posted in my edit. This video depicts the durability of the Galaxy Note 2. This alone is evidence that the device is not fit for the purpose of, which - Under the Sales of Good Act 1979 amended, I am entitled to repair / replace / refurbishment / refund FREE of charge as I, as a customer; Am not satisfied with the quality.
I must admit, as much as I hate Apple - Their procedure for repair and replacement is vastly superior than Samsung's.

I've since found out that this also falls under the EU Directive 1999/44/EC
(If a defect appears during the first six months following purchase the consumer will not have to prove the product was defective at the moment of delivery. The onus will be on the seller to prove the product was without defect. A consumer will have up to two months following the discovery of the fault to inform the seller. If a defect becomes apparent within the two, or one year, period depending on the type of goods, then the consumer has the right to choose a remedy using the following hierarchy. They can
· Demand repair or replacement within a reasonable time and without any significant inconvenience. (Free of charge repair refers to the necessary costs to bring the goods “back to conformity”)
· If this is impossible, unproportionate or cannot be done within a reasonable time or without significant inconvenience then the consumer can demand a price reduction or can rescind the contract (though not if the defect is minor)
All these rights are free of charge to the customer.)
Basically, as it's been 3 months - O2 HAVE to prove that I caused the damage, which will never happen - AS I DID NOT DO THE DAMAGE lol... I resent an email containing hundreds of links with similar devices (All Samsung ironically,) so shall see what happens. Looking optimistic now it's time for bed!

I'm not talking about the regulations though, Samsung will have the expertise to say if it's a manufacturing fault or consider it accidental damage. Why not give them a call and ask the question.
You can send the phone to an authorised Samsung repair center yourself. Get the phone back and get the details from Samsung of your nearest center.
S.
Sent from my Samsung Note II.

Tomo1971 said:
I'm not talking about the regulations though, Samsung will have the expertise to say if it's a manufacturing fault or consider it accidental damage. Why not give them a call and ask the question.
You can send the phone to an authorised Samsung repair center yourself. Get the phone back and get the details from Samsung of your nearest center.
S.
Sent from my Samsung Note II.
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I'm aware that I can go directly to Samsung, however if I do; I wouldn't have a leg to stand on. I would have to prove, that it is in fact a screen defect.
Samsung themselves have stated that LCD's are not covered by warranty, and will cost to have it repaired. The amount of threads I have read regarding Samsung products and Samsung not giving a damn astounds me.
Anyway, as I've stated, my issue at hand is with O2, who are the retailer. It is their job to ensure that all products which are sold via them, don't have any deficiencies. Now, we all know that retailers don't inspect their products - hence the reason why they usually repair / replace straight away.
The O2 repair center, as far as I believe - have contracts with manufacturers and follow their guidelines as to what can be repaired under warranty.
I'm being pedantic and doing this by the book. I will not let myself get bullied in to submission. The majority of customer's don't want the hassle, they're also unaware of their statutory rights.
I appreciate what you're suggesting, however in my case - going straight to Samsung is a bad move.

I've since emailed the CEO, CFO and COO of O2 UK. I figured why stop at the boss? I shall await further contact and shall keep this thread updated.

Suicidal Chicken said:
I've since emailed the CEO, CFO and COO of O2 UK. I figured why stop at the boss? I shall await further contact and shall keep this thread updated.
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I too have been experiencing same issue as Op. no physical damage no abuse on my part (phone is literally 6 days old at this point). Taking it to my carrier seems hopeless so I called Samsung and they gave me waybill and incident report. Contmplating sending to them now or just fix on own, as I have seen Siii owners do with removing just the glass.
What you guys think?

jay_droid said:
I too have been experiencing same issue as Op. no physical damage no abuse on my part (phone is literally 6 days old at this point). Taking it to my carrier seems hopeless so I called Samsung and they gave me waybill and incident report. Contmplating sending to them now or just fix on own, as I have seen Siii owners do with removing just the glass.
What you guys think?
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Get in touch with your provider's CEO. Seriously, the higher you go; the better your experience shall be.

Sounds like a fault in the glass from the start, the pressure of touch on the screen over time has caused the minute fracture to enlarge.
You'd be hard pressed to cause it to do that from dropping it, dropping something on it, flexing it etc. - in those cases I would assume it to just spider.
Does the Otterbox have a rigid front cover? If so, any possibility it could have applied pressure unevenly?

kempas said:
Sounds like a fault in the glass from the start, the pressure of touch on the screen over time has caused the minute fracture to enlarge.
You'd be hard pressed to cause it to do that from dropping it, dropping something on it, flexing it etc. - in those cases I would assume it to just spider.
Does the Otterbox have a rigid front cover? If so, any possibility it could have applied pressure unevenly?
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My friend has emailed me pictures of when he dropped his Galaxy Note 2. There is spidering all over the screen as well as impact damage.
We know this to be true, I just hope the CEO's assistant can kick some ass.
The otterbox doesn't apply much pressure at all, there's no way that could cause the crack even if it had a vice grip. I'm just waiting patiently.

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Get in touch with your provider's CEO. Seriously, the higher you go; the better your experience shall be.
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Here's the thing I work for my provider in another department separate to mobile. I don't think going that far is gonna go over well
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jay_droid said:
Here's the thing I work for my provider in another department separate to mobile. I don't think going that far is gonna go over well
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Haha, oh **** man. I really don't know what to suggest. I would still say getting in contact with the CEO as a customer would get you somewhere. Despite the fact that you're an employee of your service provider,

Hi ,
O2 quoted £110 for a repaire. Are you aware if that was the actual replacement of the front glass or just a fix? Due to me recently cracking the front glass on my note 2 I have to send it to samsung to have it repaired and fixed and cwnt find a clesr answer as to how nuch they will charge. Down to your issue its poor customer service on o2's part. From what you have said they will be forced to show you the information unless of course they have t&c's in their contract agreements. But to be fair I used to work for Orange and they would issue copies of the repair reports as far as I am aware.
I hope you get the resolution your looking for .
J
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jordanprudent said:
Hi ,
O2 quoted £110 for a repaire. Are you aware if that was the actual replacement of the front glass or just a fix? Due to me recently cracking the front glass on my note 2 I have to send it to samsung to have it repaired and fixed and cwnt find a clesr answer as to how nuch they will charge. Down to your issue its poor customer service on o2's part. From what you have said they will be forced to show you the information unless of course they have t&c's in their contract agreements. But to be fair I used to work for Orange and they would issue copies of the repair reports as far as I am aware.
I hope you get the resolution your looking for .
J
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Hey man. I don't know at all, I've not been told anything regarding what needs replaced or repaired. I imagine that it'll be the whole Glass, LCD and Digitiser replacement as their "engineer's" are pretty incompetent. I've checked the T&C over and over again, there's nothing that says i'm not entitled to reports, even if there was - Under the Data Protection Act I'm entitled to it. It's been a whole f*ck up and I woke up today, with the feeling of, "F*ck it;" You know? I'm only still fighting as it's principle.

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Hey man. I don't know at all, I've not been told anything regarding what needs replaced or repaired. I imagine that it'll be the whole Glass, LCD and Digitiser replacement as their "engineer's" are pretty incompetent. I've checked the T&C over and over again, there's nothing that says i'm not entitled to reports, even if there was - Under the Data Protection Act I'm entitled to it. It's been a whole f*ck up and I woke up today, with the feeling of, "F*ck it;" You know? I'm only still fighting as it's principle.
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Fight till the end. Mother ****ers!
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Do you have any pictures of the crack? I only ask as I have had a VERY similar thing happen to my Note 2 also from O2. My defect (because that's what it is, I haven't caused this, haven't dropped it etc) looks like a smudge in the bottom right hand corner of the screen and if you wipe with a cloth it seems to disappear. But if you wipe the screen with a wet finger you can clearly see what appears to be a single hairline crack from the edge of the screen across the corner of the phone to the home button. 1 hairline crack. Now you can't feel this crack with your fingernail and you cannot see it with the screen on. It's almost like there is a smudge under the screen but if you wipe it enough with a cloth it does disappear (it's very strange). Most people can't even notice it I have to point it out to them.
I did contemplate sending it back to buymobilephones.net under their 30 day warranty but I've heard horror stories of phones going missing, getting a refurbed one back that was worse than the one they sent or them saying I've done it and charging me for repair etc. I've decided to live with it and if it gets any worse I'll claim on my insurance. I'm just curious to see if it's a similar issue to what you have.
I'll try and take a picture but tbh I don't think you'd be able to see anything as it's hard enough when looking directly at it. But I know it's there, and that annoys me slightly.

quertiy said:
Fight till the end. Mother ****ers!
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Hell yea brother!
iouk said:
Do you have any pictures of the crack? I only ask as I have had a VERY similar thing happen to my Note 2 also from O2. My defect (because that's what it is, I haven't caused this, haven't dropped it etc) looks like a smudge in the bottom right hand corner of the screen and if you wipe with a cloth it seems to disappear. But if you wipe the screen with a wet finger you can clearly see what appears to be a single hairline crack from the edge of the screen across the corner of the phone to the home button. 1 hairline crack. Now you can't feel this crack with your fingernail and you cannot see it with the screen on. It's almost like there is a smudge under the screen but if you wipe it enough with a cloth it does disappear (it's very strange). Most people can't even notice it I have to point it out to them.
I did contemplate sending it back to buymobilephones.net under their 30 day warranty but I've heard horror stories of phones going missing, getting a refurbed one back that was worse than the one they sent or them saying I've done it and charging me for repair etc. I've decided to live with it and if it gets any worse I'll claim on my insurance. I'm just curious to see if it's a similar issue to what you have.
I'll try and take a picture but tbh I don't think you'd be able to see anything as it's hard enough when looking directly at it. But I know it's there, and that annoys me slightly.
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Sorry mate I don't have a picture. I too couldn't feel it with my nails. I had an email arrive yesterday but was since "returned" with the message, "Sorry, I did not mean to send this email." I was left in state of confusion and contempt, to which I replied with a single word - "What?!"

Hi All,
for anyone thinking of purchasing one of these device I think you may wish to consider the following. I have been waiting for HTC repair to fix a manufacturers defect since 10th July. They now appear to have lost my phone. As follows:
- 10th July - reported a crack around the device. HTC advised that they would need to escalate the issue on ow to handle the case.
- 7th August - (1 month after reporting the problem) HTC made arrangement to pick up the device for repair.
- 16th August - received my HTC One. The cracks were still present + the glass was not fitted correctly.
- 20th August - send off for second repair
Today it becomes apparent that HTC have lost my device. They say it was repaired, and sent to UPS, who do not acknowledge receipt of it.
Unfortunately HTC are now going to investigate. I have requested a replacement handset many times from them, but they insist they get three attempts at the repair. Given previous experience this is likely to take weeks. Again I requested a replacement device today, but no. They insist the suffering must continue until HTC, putting itself first at the expense of its customers, has executed it processes and procedures.
I have been a HTC fan since the htc desire. I am very sad to say that I would not recommend the HTC One, because they are poorly manufactured, as per my thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2408050
In addition to this, I will never buy a HTC device again because of the appalling service. Even if my HTC One turns up tomorrow, and it is perfect, I will be returning it to ee. This is purely because I have learnt that you cannot rely on HTC to repair their device in a reasonable way.
I can only hope that some one from HTC reads this, and decides to investigate, because they dont like the poor publicity. I doubt it though. My experience is that they are expert in saying sorry for poor service, but its only talk.
One last point, which I think others may benefit from. The effort that I have had to go through with HTC to get as far as I have is huge. A truly high maintenance experience.
Buy a HTC device at your peril!!!
UPDATE
This matter is now closed (well almost) with HTC as far as I am concerned. I had to shout very loud to get noticed, and it took much time, effort and persistence. As you can read in the remainder of this thread, my HTC experience, this time, was far from good.
However, when I was heard, they listened very carefully, and are acting. HTC have convinced me that they genuinely do care about every single customer experience, and they do read threads such as this, and are prepared to act. They are prepared to change anything and everything to improve.
I have worked with global telecoms businesses for most of my working life (30+ years) all over the world, and I can honestly say that I have never experienced such genuine commitment to improve and resolve issues.
I don't suppose that everything will be transformed overnight, but I know that they have real commitment and desire to excel. Its obvious, they have to. Look at their competitors.
I have but one remaining item of business with regards this experience, and its not with HTC, but my network. I had to do the legwork that they should have done on my behalf. Hopefully I wont have to author another thread etc to resolve this matter.
Now I love HTC again.
HTC - Heres to change, Im sure you will be champions of it. Samsung watch out. You may be huge but YOU are up against a formidable competitor.

zaphodbeeb said:
Even if my HTC One turns up tomorrow, and it is perfect, I will be returning it to ee.
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That's what you should have done in the first place; let EE deal with the hassle.

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That's what you should have done in the first place; let EE deal with the hassle.
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Hi Yes you are correct, however I was advised by ee in store to return it to HTC as they would be doing that, rather than repair it themselves because it was due to physical manufacture defect.

zaphodbeeb said:
Hi Yes you are correct, however I was advised by ee in store to return it to HTC as they would be doing that, rather than repair it themselves because it was due to physical manufacture defect.
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And therein lies the problem. You should've insisted that EE handled the repair because they were the original retailer, and therefore it is their statutory duty to make good on the repair and/or replace. I would still go back to EE and claim that since it has been nearly two months since you reported the initial fault, and that you have now been without a phone for 3 weeks, they should replace your device because it is unable to be repaired in a satisfactory time scale and that this is a breach of your statutory rights. Don't take no for an answer, and throw section 48B of the Sale of Goods Act 1979 in their faces.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1979/54/section/48B
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
And therein lies the problem. You should've insisted that EE handled the repair because they were the original retailer, and therefore it is their statutory duty to make good on the repair and/or replace. I would still go back to EE and claim that since it has been nearly two months since you reported the initial fault, and that you have now been without a phone for 3 weeks, they should replace your device because it is unable to be repaired in a satisfactory time scale and that this is a breach of your statutory rights. Don't take no for an answer, and throw section 48B of the Sale of Goods Act 1979 in their faces.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1979/54/section/48B
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thank you. Very useful.

HTC have now re located my device, after a call from ee to them. I will now receive a perfectly repaired device back from htc next Tuesday (hopefully) else I'll be going around the houses yet again. If all is OK on Tuesday it will be 69 calendar days since I first reported the problem to HTC. Customer service excellence eh...

I would say that basically every phone company's warranty service is pretty garbage.
Sometimes you get lucky, and sometimes it just sucks.
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3rd HTC repair attempt, but they want me to pay
Hi,
Had some new info from htc today. They lost my phone last week and have now decided that they want to charge me for another repair?!? This is without me even having the phone returned to me after the last repair attempt (2nd repair attempt, again under under warranty).
I can only assume that they caused yet more damage with their 2nd repair attempt, and they want me to pay for it.
I spoke to EE this morning who have raised this as an issue with OFCOM now. The last commitment from HTC (to both me and EE) was that they would return the repaired phone to me for 3/9/13. This was on Friday. I also tweeted HTC over the weekend and they committed to escalating the case (again).
I also want to say thanks to EE for their help in this matter, escalating it to OFCOM themselves.

Nearly
zaphodbeeb said:
Hi,
Had some new info from htc today. They lost my phone last week and have now decided that they want to charge me for another repair?!? This is without me even having the phone returned to me after the last repair attempt (2nd repair attempt, again under under warranty).
I can only assume that they caused yet more damage with their 2nd repair attempt, and they want me to pay for it.
I spoke to EE this morning who have raised this as an issue with OFCOM now. The last commitment from HTC (to both me and EE) was that they would return the repaired phone to me for 3/9/13. This was on Friday. I also tweeted HTC over the weekend and they committed to escalating the case (again).
I also want to say thanks to EE for their help in this matter, escalating it to OFCOM themselves.
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A minor update. HTC tweeted me again after another day on the phone with ee, htc uk, and htc tweeters, As follows:
- HTC uk have now decided (with ee's help again) not to charge me and have advised that my repair is complete and MAY be with me today, despite using UPS standard. UPS have not received the device yet so I will not be receiving the device today as promised under this courier arrangement. I am now exactly where I was 1 week ago with HTC.
I was tweeted again by htc to ask what my ticket number is, so I provided this (as I did on Saturday when they requested it). I tweeted them to 121 courier it to me today.
HTC UK customer service have agreed to email me in the morning to update me on the UPS standard delivery and have refused to courier it to me by any other method because no managers are available to arrange this. Maybe , just maybe, today will be the day my HTC One is returned without defect. I also tweeted that I want a written letter of apology, compensation and a fault free htc one today.
EE have been absolutely brilliant today and have really given me excellent support. thank you Gareth and team for your support.

HTC customer service sucks donkey balls
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Don't tell me.... said manufacturing defect is the much lauded gap in the "gapless" technology phone?
Seriously if the phone was less than 28 days old, I would of returned it to EE for a replacement on the spot, although I wouldn't of bothered as every phone in the world has issues, as they aren't Rolls Royce or Rolex's.

I didnt bother for a month after receiving but the crack got worse. The real problem is not the crack. The crack is caused by the front of the device not being squarely attached to the rear, which causes an over/underhang at the top/bottom. I recommend you check yours and return if you can feel this with your fingernail, else yours may crack also. Also check to see if the glass is fitted evenly (see pics). I think this is also caused by the poor front/back fitting as it stops the glass from fitting correctly. If you have your phone on contract I agree (with hindsight) that you should return to your network provider for repair. Going to HTC (UK) has been a disaster. My network (EE) have been brilliant "motivating" HTC to repair the device. Any how the phone is now repaired and, supposedly, on its way to me. I have but one remaining item of business with HTC (UK) which is delivery. They promised to get it to me today, but are using ups standard which wont deliver that result. Yesterday I asked them to escalate this issue and make arrangement for a person to person delivery today. Still waiting for feedback from my escalation, but yesterday they advised that no-one in HTC (UK) has the authority to do this!! I think this actually means they cant be bothered, even after taking 70 days to fix a problem. Hopeless.
I tweeted HTC yesterday and they are looking into my case. They also said they would do this on Saturday however with no apparent results or updates from them. More lip service I think. Still I'll do the silly HTC repair dance for as long as it takes, and cause as much pain and shame as is necessary to do it.

Sorry, but I had the same issue on my One. It didn't get worse or bother me at all. You could of just lived with it and not got so OCD and about.
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Sean88 said:
Sorry, but I had the same issue on my One. It didn't get worse or bother me at all. You could of just lived with it and not got so OCD and about.
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Look at the pics. If u think thats acceptable then fine, but I am not you. The device was in the process of falling to bits. In my case it did get worse as you can see. You may think that Im OCD, but the law states that the device should be free from defect, and I am thankful of it. Thank you for the valuable contribution to this thread.

biffsmash said:
Don't tell me.... said manufacturing defect is the much lauded gap in the "gapless" technology phone?
Seriously if the phone was less than 28 days old, I would of returned it to EE for a replacement on the spot, although I wouldn't of bothered as every phone in the world has issues, as they aren't Rolls Royce or Rolex's.
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The gapless tech does not cover the speaker area. This has been said many times, even HTC has said it in one of their blogs.
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Oh dear, oh dear
Hi,
got the phone back today, and the gap is back but is now full of a glue. This was actually fixed after the first repair but its back. There is also additional damage in the form of a chunk out of the corner, and an additional gap at the side of the device. The glass problem is yet to be fixed as is the over/underhang, and theres lots of excess glue around the device.
Lucky I got before and after photos at repair cycle. Repair not accepted. No more HTC repairs for me I think.
I made much noise on twitter, and now have a publicly made personal commitment from a HTC senior exec to help with the matter (Twitter is marvelous in these circumstances). I await his response. I am somewhat relieved at this as it does show, at least at the top, that they do care.
So there's good, and there's bad in this update, so unfortunately its still a thumbs down from me. as my problem is still not resolved 71 days after I first reported it.
I offered my professional services to help transform HTC but have not heard anything back yet.
The helpful EE guy I was talking to has disappeared off the face of the planet also until Saturday apparently also. BBC;s watchdog have had a sniff so this could be the start of my TV career, if HTC dont want to hire me.
I also updated HTC and advised that I will only discuss this with the senior exec who offered his services from this point on.
P.S Apologies for the poor pics. I had to use my old phones camera.

Whereas this story is very poor I have to say HTC's UK repairs center were great when it came to me sending in my old Desire and Sensation for repair. 3 day turnaround and both sorted without bother. It does seem like this is a bad experience, though, and one that would just make me claim on my insurance to get a new handset as opposed to getting one repaired

EddyOS said:
Whereas this story is very poor I have to say HTC's UK repairs center were great when it came to me sending in my old Desire and Sensation for repair. 3 day turnaround and both sorted without bother. It does seem like this is a bad experience, though, and one that would just make me claim on my insurance to get a new handset as opposed to getting one repaired
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My device is under warranty. This is the result of three warranty repairs, lots of escalation, costs (time spent, days off waiting for the device to be returned) and grief. How would I make a claim on insurance, its in warranty. Believe me,if I thought my insurance company would fix my ongoing problem I would have claimed. I HAVE authored a thread previously stating what an excellent level of service I received from HTC UK repair, when I had a problem with my HTC desire.
I will give credit where credit is due, and complain when it is due. I want to write nice things about HTC, but in this case I cannot unfortunately.

zaphodbeeb said:
My device is under warranty. This is the result of three warranty repairs, lots of escalation, costs (time spent, days off waiting for the device to be returned) and grief. How would I make a claim on insurance, its in warranty. Believe me,if I thought my insurance company would fix my ongoing problem I would have claimed. I HAVE authored a thread previously stating what an excellent level of service I received from HTC UK repair, when I had a problem with my HTC desire.
I will give credit where credit is due, and complain when it is due. I want to write nice things about HTC, but in this case I cannot unfortunately.
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Oh, I know what you're saying. I'm just saying if I'd had this much agro I would've just got the phone back unrepaired and claim on my insurance and just a brand new handset...sucks that this has happened to you

EddyOS said:
Oh, I know what you're saying. I'm just saying if I'd had this much agro I would've just got the phone back unrepaired and claim on my insurance and just a brand new handset...sucks that this has happened to you
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But would your experience figure in your next purchase? HTC have made contact and I am confident they are taking this matter seriously. Hopefully be seeing improvements and lots of positive reviews like this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2432718
soon. I wont give this a thumbs up just yet, but I am more confident so fingers crossed :fingers-crossed:

Have purchased 8 HTC devices over the last 10 years and most recently the One M9. I was prepared to give HTC a chance when the press ridiculed them for lack of progress versus competitors.
My biggest problem was HTC's awful customer service/warranty department who when made aware of the sapphire glass on my rear camera failing would NOT repair it under warranty and told me that I would have to pay for it myself. The device has a Tempered Glass Protector on Screen and Camera along with a Spigen Case on top. My loyalty means nothing to HTC and I will NEVER spend my hard earned money on a HTC product again. I would NEVER recommend HTC to ANYONE and I can see now why the Company has gone into decline. Failure to look after Loyal customers will result in their demise when Samsung LG and Apple are vastly superior in this department.
My Galaxy S5 developed a problem with the rocker buttons and was fixed free of charge a full year into ownership. My iPhone 4s developed an issue with Battery and they simply replaced the device. HTC didn't want to know.
I feel that if this is how they treat their loyal customers then they simply deserve to fail. My hard earned money will be spent elsewhere from now on.
Have you guys had issues with HTC??? If you haven't yet considered a HTC device but might consider one then please do be careful.

jody04c said:
Have purchased 8 HTC devices over the last 10 years and most recently the One M9. I was prepared to give HTC a chance when the press ridiculed them for lack of progress versus competitors.
My biggest problem was HTC's awful customer service/warranty department who when made aware of the sapphire glass on my rear camera failing would NOT repair it under warranty and told me that I would have to pay for it myself. The device has a Tempered Glass Protector on Screen and Camera along with a Spigen Case on top. My loyalty means nothing to HTC and I will NEVER spend my hard earned money on a HTC product again. I would NEVER recommend HTC to ANYONE and I can see now why the Company has gone into decline. Failure to look after Loyal customers will result in their demise when Samsung LG and Apple are vastly superior in this department.
My Galaxy S5 developed a problem with the rocker buttons and was fixed free of charge a full year into ownership. My iPhone 4s developed an issue with Battery and they simply replaced the device. HTC didn't want to know.
I feel that if this is how they treat their loyal customers then they simply deserve to fail. My hard earned money will be spent elsewhere from now on.
Have you guys had issues with HTC??? If you haven't yet considered a HTC device but might consider one then please do be careful.
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I've had six M9's trying to get a phone without a bent frame around the screen! On the last one I thought that rather than return it to Amazon again, I would speak to HTC and see if they would fix the frame for me so I could keep it, as I really love the phone.
The customer service rep basically told me that I would have to pay for them to look at it and for any repairs made and that it was my fault for purchasing a cheap phone from Amazon and not from them directly.
So my reply was, do HTC make two versions of this phone, one cheap that has build quality problems and the other expensive which is perfect? She was confused and said all are the same?! Basically I told her that HTC have serious issues with this handset and she denied it. I highlighted the company is in trouble and that good service is needed to keep loyal customers from leaving, she didn't think HTC had any worries about it's business?! On complete denial about everything and no help at all.
So, long and short of it, I returned the handset to Amazon and will never go near HTC again. I used my local guy in China to source me a Nubia Z9 Mini so i can give the new IMX234 a go, as the camera looks bloody amazing, unlike the M9!

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I've had six M9's trying to get a phone without a bent frame around the screen! On the last one I thought that rather than return it to Amazon again, I would speak to HTC and see if they would fix the frame for me so I could keep it, as I really love the phone.
The customer service rep basically told me that I would have to pay for them to look at it and for any repairs made and that it was my fault for purchasing a cheap phone from Amazon and not from them directly.
So my reply was, do HTC make two versions of this phone, one cheap that has build quality problems and the other expensive which is perfect? She was confused and said all are the same?! Basically I told her that HTC have serious issues with this handset and she denied it. I highlighted the company is in trouble and that good service is needed to keep loyal customers from leaving, she didn't think HTC had any worries about it's business?! On complete denial about everything and no help at all.
So, long and short of it, I returned the handset to Amazon and will never go near HTC again. I used my local guy in China to source me a Nubia Z9 Mini so i can give the new IMX234 a go, as the camera looks bloody amazing, unlike the M9!
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Its no surprise they are a failing company when that is how they treat loyal customers who have a genuine quality control issue. The support from HTC is disgusting. I'm glad to hear they have lost another customer due to their awful support.

I have had zero problems with their customer service or warranty. In fact they corrected a problem sprint created. Everyone has a different experience. Samsung and apple both treated me like ****. Hell apple charged me for a phone I didn't even have lol had to go to court.
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Well there are also customers that drop their phone and it breaks glass, scratches, dents, dings, starts malfunctioning, etc....and then they call HTC and say it is defective and not their fault. Unfortunately HTC has no way of knowing who is lying and who is not. If they exchanged phones for every customer that claimed defect, they would be exchanging phones that people broke left and right. Certain things shouldn't come loose or start to rattle and if that starts happening they will know it is a defect once they get enough cases. Unfortunately with glass, it is the easiest and most common thing broken on a phone, so doing warranty replacements for broken glass is rare. A screen protector and case do nothing for protecting the camera glass. Most people this has happened to are blaming excessive heat. So I'm assuming you had your phone on the charger over night and it may have overheated from the charger. It would be nice if HTC would at least make an effort to investigate and see if this is possibly happening.

I've only had one experience with HTC customer service, but they replaced the pink tint camera on my M7 for just the labor costs even though it was out of warranty and two years old. YMMV, I guess.

I had this problem as well. It's like talking to a wall with these guys. If you say we will replace your phone no matter what the problem,no questions asked, than you best live up it. When I called, I was bombarded with questions and told I had to pay for them to fix it.

I'll just chime in with my own experience...
I had an HTC One Mini that developed hairline cracks in the plastic (this was a VERY common issue with this phone) and talking with HTC support was, like BR7fan said, talking to a freaking wall. They were totally unaware of the issue even though it was widely reported on XDA. They said they MIGHT be able to fix it for free, but they couldn't tell until they saw it (understandable). But there was a chance I'd have to pay for repair even though there was obviously damage related to neglect. Also, I work remotely, so I have to have my phone for work and the only option was for me to send it in and wait for repair. Anyway, I was frustrated and ended up taking the phone to an AT&T service center and sweet talking them to swap it out for me.
My second experience with HTC was more recent and much better. I had my M8 in my shirt pocket and bent over to pick something up and it slipped out onto the concrete. The glass cracked and there was damage to the metal body. This time I used chat support and the rep couldn't have been better to deal with. I told him what happened, and he checked and said I was eligible for a replacement under the screen replacement policy. I told him that the metal had also been damaged, and he asked me to describe the damage, and while he wouldn't say with 100% certainty that there wouldn't be a problem swapping it out (understandable since I could have been under-reporting the level of damage) he said kind of off the record that if the damage was as I described, there wouldn't be a problem. Anyway, they put a $599 hold on my card + $29 for overnight shipping and the next day I had my new M8 and sent my damaged one back. About a week later the hold was removed from my card.
Anyway, I've had awful CS experiences at a lot of places and then later had great ones. I think it's really hit or miss with these large corporations.
Finally, I think HTC is attempting to shift their warranty policy to be more liberal in replacing/repairing physically damaged phones and honoring warranty for unlocked ones. It seems like this shift isn't going as smoothly as some of us consumers would like.

cstrife999 said:
Hell apple charged me for a phone I didn't even have lol had to go to court.
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Please expand on that

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My gd had an iPhone 4 though att and paid for apple care and the whatnot. Well she lost the sim card for it (don't ask) and we had to go to att to replace it. The clerk dropped and broke her phone. Att said they would give her a new one without issue as it was 100% fault of the store clerk. Apple sent an email claiming she was commuting fraud and the video evidence that was sent was altered. Att fought with them and eventually won. Well they gave her the phone and everything was fine. Then apple sent an email and a bill through the mail for damages for an iPhone 5s that she didn't have and claimed they could prosecute her for fraud... Yea... In the end apple got her a 5s and she got to keep the 4 as way of a settlement. She could have really ****ed apple up.
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My gd had an iPhone 4 though att and paid for apple care and the whatnot. Well she lost the sim card for it (don't ask) and we had to go to att to replace it. The clerk dropped and broke her phone. Att said they would give her a new one without issue as it was 100% fault of the store clerk. Apple sent an email claiming she was commuting fraud and the video evidence that was sent was altered. Att fought with them and eventually won. Well they gave her the phone and everything was fine. Then apple sent an email and a bill through the mail for damages for an iPhone 5s that she didn't have and claimed they could prosecute her for fraud... Yea... In the end apple got her a 5s and she got to keep the 4 as way of a settlement. She could have really ****ed apple up.
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I think it goes to show how customer service can be inconsistent, which in itself is a problem.
My first 6plus had a sunken home button, so wouldn't 'click' as such and the edge of the hole in the glass where the button fits was sharp and uncomfortable to use. Walked in to my local Apple store and walked out with a brand new handset within 5mins, no questions asked.
Got my other half a iPhone 6 and had to return it as she won't move on from her G2, got a refund instantly, again no questions.
Anyone got any ideas how to get my wife away from the G2? Everything else I get for her to try she doesn't like because the bloody icons and app settings are different, between platforms and handsets!

andybg40 said:
I think it goes to show how customer service can be inconsistent, which in itself is a problem.
My first 6plus had a sunken home button, so wouldn't 'click' as such and the edge of the hole in the glass where the button fits was sharp and uncomfortable to use. Walked in to my local Apple store and walked out with a brand new handset within 5mins, no questions asked.
Got my other half a iPhone 6 and had to return it as she won't move on from her G2, got a refund instantly, again no questions.
Anyone got any ideas how to get my wife away from the G2? Everything else I get for her to try she doesn't like because the bloody icons and app settings are different, between platforms and handsets!
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Yeah, too often it seem to depend on what CSR you get, and how their supervisor has been behaving that week.
I've twice had to get the trackpad on my MBP replaced, both times were my fault (too much eating and drinking at my desk :silly, and both times Apple fixed it no questions asked under the protection plan.

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Anyone got any ideas how to get my wife away from the G2? Everything else I get for her to try she doesn't like because the bloody icons and app settings are different, between platforms and handsets!
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When you figure that out pls share the secret!
My wife has a freaking blackberry z10!!! That she doesn't want to give up because "everything is set up how she wants it".....
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I can tell you that Apple is undoubtedly the BEST in the service and support department! I just don't understand how these other companies can't see how simple it is and just do it the way Apple does! I mean, it makes me not want to buy another Samsung, LG or HTC product, because ALL of them I have had issues with at one point or another. The one time I had an issue with Apple I was so pissed off that I called in to customer care and spoke to a manager about the problem that I had at a store nearby. She saw that I had purchased about 10 Apple devices in the last 8 years or so, and gave me $150 credit for Apple accessories and also next day aired me a brand new 6 Plus because the Apple store would not replace it after I was having problems and I just got done spending almost a grand for the damn thing! These phones are expensive, and if these companies can't take care of us then go somewhere else because someone is willing to take care of you the right way! Just like this G4 I have that has marks on the display due to a screen coating issue at the plant. Because it;s an International model they won't touch it! WOW I understand that companies don't honor some warranties when you buy an imported phone, but when it's 3 days old and the phone just came out and it has defects that are 100% LG's fault, they should have just told me to send the damn thing in and they would fix it, now they lost my business! That just cost them quite a bit considering I buy EVERY damn flagship that comes out! (almost) They don't care though.... -END OF RANT-

jollywhitefoot said:
I'll just chime in with my own experience...
I had an HTC One Mini that developed hairline cracks in the plastic (this was a VERY common issue with this phone) and talking with HTC support was, like BR7fan said, talking to a freaking wall. They were totally unaware of the issue even though it was widely reported on XDA. They said they MIGHT be able to fix it for free, but they couldn't tell until they saw it (understandable).
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Uh they ARE aware of that, I talked about it with people from HTC (and Elevate) and they fixed my border without hassle (though I got a border back that's in even worse shape, but I blame Dynafix for that, not HTC.)

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Uh they ARE aware of that, I talked about it with people from HTC (and Elevate) and they fixed my border without hassle (though I got a border back that's in even worse shape, but I blame Dynafix for that, not HTC.)
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Sorry, I should have clarified. This was about a month or two after they came out.

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Sorry, I should have clarified. This was about a month or two after they came out.
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Ah yeah, my request was like a year after release.
But come on, if it was only a month or 2 after release it could be expected that they (the support) wasn't aware of that. Because at first hearing about it, HTC will most likely just sit by and keep eye on it, see if many experience it (as in a certain % compared to sold devices) and then decide to undertake action or just play ffin stupid.
Support can't be blamed with that, they just followed order

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Ah yeah, my request was like a year after release.
But come on, if it was only a month or 2 after release it could be expected that they (the support) wasn't aware of that. Because at first hearing about it, HTC will most likely just sit by and keep eye on it, see if many experience it (as in a certain % compared to sold devices) and then decide to undertake action or just play ffin stupid.
Support can't be blamed with that, they just followed order
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I wasn't blaming the person. There was already a thread on XDA aboout the issue, but I imagine CS reps are discouraged from acknowledging internet speculation. I was frustrated with the system that was going to make me send my phone in for repair rather than them sending me a new one (with a CC hold, obviously) and then me sending the defective one back. I guess it wasn't clear in my post, but I use this phone for work and didn't have a backup.

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Haha, you should. It's exactly as you say it is to the company "just speculation", companies always use bull**** like "only vocal minority" to deceive others. So they rather keep it quiet and ignore forums like this on purpose

I owned a beautiful metallic red HTC One m7 untill recently. It was rooted + BL unlocked (not S-off) since day1 and never ran stock rom. I started noticing all the pictures were out of focus and that camera was stuck in macro mode. I took it back to shop for warranty (it was 1y 8 months old) and they sent it back to HTC for repair. Bootloader showed Relock and it was on an old stock rom nandroid that I found from internet
Almost 3 weeks later it was back, with new camera that was excellent again. They updated to latest Lollipop rom even, with BL still in relock. However they messed up upper speaker grill as the metal was no longer flush with body (stuck out enough to be clearly felt by finger when swiping on screen). I took it back to shop, complained and it got sent away again.
Another 2,5 weeks go by and I get the phone back. This time HTC completely changed the body and screen. It was like having a brand new One M7 in beautiful red. It had still same motherboard and still relock BL. However.... they forgot to install/connect the headset speaker.. so I had no sound when calling someone >_>. Back to shop, complain, explain and return the phone..
So a week later I got the phone back. Except I didnt get the phone back. What I got back was a 32GB M9 in gunmetal grey. I am both happy to have a proper upgrade and for free, a little sad to see my lovely M7 taken from me and quite disappointed in the QC of HTC repair centres.