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HTC charging me $75 for the hairline power button crack

Sent to the article author here at XDA this morning along with a few other key addresses.
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Just wanted to follow up with you. HTC has quoted me $75 to repair a missing camera lens cover due to my phone also having the hairline crack you discuss here. Even though they acknowledge the fact that the hairline crack doesn't affect the camera lens in any way shape or form and also acknowledging that the missing lens (it fell out) is also an obvious warranty issue they are demanding I pay their fee. Also conveniently right after they quote you expedited shipping prices (in my case 15 for overnight since I've been fighting them for 2 weeks on this already) and charge your credit card they decide to finally inform you that it'll take about two weeks to do actually do the 10 minute repair for you.
I've attached a picture the RMA folks at HTC sent me of my "negligent damage." Somehow phones with screens that fall off and USB power ports that fall out of the phone are obvious manufacturers defects but actually pushing the power button (OMG HOW DARE I DO THIS) is abuse and will not be tolerated by the nice folks at HTC.
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Dear Mr. Sheehan,
Please see the pictures below that you have requested from your phone. If you have any further questions feel free to contact us at 888-617-1113 between 8am and 8pm EST Monday through Friday.
Sincerely,
HTC Customer Care
3. Ben Sheehan
SN: HT05******* (Evo) – Crack case
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Dear Valued Customer,
Thank you for using HTC repair services! Here is a copy of your invoice
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RMA #: 121****
Accepted Repair Actions: Average Repair
Total Charged: $90.00
Date of Charge: 8/24/2010
There is a 90-day warranty on all repairs made. The 90-day warranty applies
only to repeat return cases with the same functional failure symptom and
same parts for replacement.
Please remember that all processed repair charges are non-refundable. The
charge will appear on your credit card statement as Telamon CPE.
Thank you for using HTC! We appreciate your business!
Sincerely,
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Wow, that is ****.
Mine is cracked in precisely the same place.

It is B.S. but for some reason both Sprint and HTC refuse to acknowledge the crack as a defect. I think it is ridiculous and deserves a recall. But I don't understand the problem completely. Are they forcing you to pay $90 in order to get your phone back? Or are they just saying that it would cost $90 if you asked them to repair the hairline crack?

I never read the other thread. Does it crack in the middle? Looking at how it is attached (two tiny, flimsy tabs) when I had mine apart...I would expect the tabs to break. It's a crap piece all things considered.

Sent the phone in for a completely unrelated issue. They are saying the crack is evidence that I've abused my phone. I can either pay 75 for them to fix it or 40 for them just to send it back. The additional is shipping.
This company literally has by far the most useless and brain dead phone reps I've ever encountered.

Should have just exchanged it with Sprint.

That is absolutely awful. The cracked power button is a well-known defect of this phone. And the fact that they are nitpicking you is almost a deal-breaker. I'm mad for you.
Twice when I owned a Blackberry I sent my phone in for minor issues. The way it worked is that Sprint overnighted a new phone to me before they looked at mine. I activated the new one so that I wouldn't have to be without phone. Then I sent in the old one. RIM charges something like $75 if they find that the problem doesn't exist and you were just trying to get a shiny new phone. I was never charged the $75. And I was really pushing the policy because there was some tiny flaw in the phone which was why I was returning it.
You shouldn't have to wait this long for a replacement. And you shouldn't have to bicker with them like it's a flea market. We only have these phones for like a year before we move on, and they are wasting your time.

TheBiles said:
Should have just exchanged it with Sprint.
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Sprint had no phones and it was a wait for a refurb. Figured this would be a simple in and out repair. My bad thinking HTC has any idea what customer service is.

Ugh. I just noticed my one month old never dropped babied Evo has that be crack right where everyone else's is located. I thought you were all being rough on your phones but I stand corrected. HTC will be getting a call from me.

thebryanexperience said:
Ugh. I just noticed my one month old never dropped babied Evo has that be crack right where everyone else's is located. I thought you were all being rough on your phones but I stand corrected. HTC will be getting a call from me.
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HTC will not care if they get a call from you. That's the problem.

Just had the same issue, plus I lost my WIMAX flashing, so I went through Sprint and told them the button craked, 1 week later i have brand new EVO. NOT refurb. I did flirt with the gal at Sprint though..

xavier1022 said:
Just had the same issue, plus I lost my WIMAX flashing, so I went through Sprint and told them the button craked, 1 week later i have brand new EVO. NOT refurb. I did flirt with the gal at Sprint though..
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She must have been trying to get you out of the store as quickly as possible. Not a bad strategy.

get your phone back tell them to F themselves at go ***** at sprint, and wait, I'm pretty sure its not going to kill anyones phone to have a crack in it while you wait for a refurb to come in, HTC is going to send you a refurb anyway most likely.
either way with a refurb your stuck without root, the Evo's roll in for Service and repair replacements every few days.
the longer the better, more time to hope froyo gets rooted lol

Wait, is the button itself cracked, or the trim right around it (on the screen side of the top)?

Its just the trim around it. I really don't see it as anything but a cosmetic issue. There is no "flex" to the plastic and feels as solid as a friends that doesn't have the crack.
I can only feel it with my fingernail.

File a case with the BBB.

Bielinsk said:
Its just the trim around it. I really don't see it as anything but a cosmetic issue. There is no "flex" to the plastic and feels as solid as a friends that doesn't have the crack.
I can only feel it with my fingernail.
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I have that too. Mine has been apart a few times, so I can't really *****. I only noticed it because I was scrutinizing the button.
Still my favorite phone ever, and will probably be for the next six months.

Yet when there is a thread about another manufacturer everyone is ready to beat HTC off with both hands while they piss on the other builders. They are no better and their build quality is certainly suspect at best. Don't even get me started on the programming mess.

I've filed formal complaints with the BBB (like anyone cares) and the Florida Division of Consumer Services (might care) along with posting on every forum and facebook page I can find related to HTC as well as carpet bombing their fax numbers.
HTC I know you are reading this.
I'm just getting started.
I promise you I will cost you many many times more than the 75 bucks you've gotten from me.

Making it a point to call twice a day to check on my phone.
They told me it would be 5 to 7 days before it ships.
I'll call twice a day every day and waste as much of their time as I possibly can.
Also got another "we don't care about your problems with HTC" chain letter from Sprint today. In case anyone wondered the "[email protected]" address just takes you to more customer "service" reps though you do get a dedicated employee to ignore you. I like when they say they are "calling from the office of Dan Hesse." It makes me giggle. Chances are good they wouldn't know Dan Hesse if he walked up and punched them in the face.

Dell streak screen cracked by minor drop with no casing damage, dell repair for FREE

Hey guys if anyone out there manages to drop or otherwise crack their screen simply call dell mobility in usa (dont tell them you droped it) and play on that you have read all over the internet about how people believe that the inner lcd is under pressure and you have noticed the sensitive corners of the screen anyway and that one day you simply pulled your phone out of your pocket and the screen was cracked an "hey presto" the call agent will arrange to have your phone shipped to budapest an a FREE screen will be inserted.
Only done with a phone with a pristine casing due to a minor drop so dont know what the outcome would be with a phone with any case damage please post if anybody tries and succseeds with this one and hope it helps someone out ther with the same problem I had.
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Told them I dropped it. They fixed it
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Yeah. thats what I did the first time. this time they called me back (what happened to fridays??) told me it would cost $249 to fix. Gonna call mobility back rather than dealing with these indian assholes and see if a well worded and polite hissy fit will get them to change their tune.

I had the same problem and was told it wasnt covered under warrenty, under any circumstance.

Yeah called the always wonderful folks at the actual mobility number and got nowhere. Emailed the "executive solutions" folks. Sorry Dell, if your phone is this fragile even if you replace it im selling it for a more sturdy device. Dropped my captivate regularly and nothing happened, 2 drops should NOT equal 2 broken phones.

I thought this screen on this phone was supposed to be damn near industructible? All I hear about. Is cracked screens in hope this otter box is worth the. Money
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bose.jhebert said:
Yeah. thats what I did the first time. this time they called me back (what happened to fridays??) told me it would cost $249 to fix. Gonna call mobility back rather than dealing with these indian assholes and see if a well worded and polite hissy fit will get them to change their tune.
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same here also sent a letter direct to michael dell and his office and the consumerist and engadget.
Its VERY frustrating when you see stories all over these forums and streaksmart having their devices replaced no problem...
My letter is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=929986

Seems like a simple change in policy at Dell, what they used to do they no longer do. Folk will just have to take better care of their Streaks from now on.

dzerveviktory said:
same here also sent a letter direct to michael dell and his office and the consumerist and engadget.
Its VERY frustrating when you see stories all over these forums and streaksmart having their devices replaced no problem...
My letter is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=929986
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Your avatar matches a guy who tweeted with lionelatdell a lot, someone who desperately wanted a T-Mo version, that you? Any result from the letter?

bose.jhebert said:
Your avatar matches a guy who tweeted with lionelatdell a lot, someone who desperately wanted a T-Mo version, that you? Any result from the letter?
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haha thats me but I never wanted a Tmo version haha

shatterstar24 said:
I thought this screen on this phone was supposed to be damn near industructible? All I hear about. Is cracked screens in hope this otter box is worth the. Money
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The glass is pretty durable, for some the LCD shatters when they look at it wrong.

dzerveviktory said:
haha thats me but I never wanted a Tmo version haha
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Ah ok, lots of people were hounding him about the lack of details leading to release, musta mixed you up with someone else.
Does anyone else feel that this isn't simply a matter of people not being careful with their phones? Until this one I had NEVER broken a phone in my life, with one exception (my first nokia i left in a cupholder in an open top jeep on a rainy night). And now i've broken 2 in less than a month with falls that my captivate or iphone would have shaken off without even a scratch. Hell my iPad with a larger screen has taken worse falls and no damage at all. I feel a little duped here, I bought a phone that retails for $599 (IIRC) and it was advertised as having one of the sturdiest builds ever due to the gorilla glass. I have found, however, that in most cases while the glass doesn't even scratch, the LCD is absurdly fragile and doesn't hold up to even light falls.
Both of mine were less than 6" from the surface they fell on, and the 2nd one was in an Otterbox, and the screen STILL did not survive.
I wish there was a way to really press dell on this. I've called, emailed the "unsolved service issue" folks, and it appears even Michael Dell has been addressed in all this, and nobody at dell will budge. We need some negative PR to hit this hard. Screw antennagate, I wanna see SCREENGATE all over engadget and gizmodo.

NEWS!
OK so I just got off the phone with Dell Mobility. BTW if i haven't mentioned it yet, I absolutely love their customer service skills. Always friendly, always willing to take a minute to really discuss the issue, and always want to help.
Well Kim over there told me that the official policy is that they'll replace one, but after that you get kicked over to the out of warranty folks. HOWEVER! she also said that they'd recently gotten a few emails kicked down to the department from higher up telling them to authorize a handful of replacements for 2nd, even 3rd broken units. She told me the key is to get on to the official dell forums and complain everywhere that seems appropriate. She also acknowledged it was a known issue and dell is working quickly to fix it.
Now for the "here's what to do" advice she gave me regarding the forums. She said the key is to NOT rant and rave, because the moderators will sometimes just delete them. If you go on and post a well written complaint that essentially explains in detail why your upset and why you feel dell is mistreating you, they ARE read daily by folks higher up in the food chain and they will regularly pass information to the frontline folks and basically say "Fix this and make the customer happy".

Spontaneous screen defect (Hairline crack.)

As the title suggests, I have a screen defect on my Galaxy Note 2. I swear, I did not do this. I have never dropped my phone, I've had an otterbox case since I've bought it. I cherished my little gem, always put her down gently. I never threw it about, I was far beyond cautious.
Anyway, the issue happened sometime on Sunday the 2nd of December between the hours of 06:15 and 10:00am. During the early hours of a British morning; It was around -5c where I live. Before I left at 5:00am, the phone was in pristine condition. Not a single hair, speck of dust or fingerprint gleaming in the light. I had this in my pocket for the journey and came home at the mention hours, (6:15am.) I then placed my Galaxy Note 2 on my bench press bench, and went back to bed. Upon waking, to my horror; There was this monstrosity of a crack. Now, I know there are many naysayers around, "Glass just wont crack on its own, HURH," but let me tell you, it can.
As soon as I noticed this crack, I was straight on the phone to my service provider (Which is O2-UK,) and booked it in for a repair / collection. All was dandy, it was collected and arrived at the service center. Now, today - on the 4th of December 2012; They are saying that I am out of warranty. At this comment, I saw red. This is a 3 month phone, pristine condition; No marks, no bashes IMMACULATE bar the screen. I wrote out a detailed report stating what has happened but to no avail. The supposed, "Engineer" at the O2 repair center has filed the report of, "Accidental damage."
Now, in what way is that accidental damage? I CLEARLY stated what happened, I even went as far to get an Affidavit at my own expense. I then asked if I could have the engineer's report, but no. As an O2 customer, we are not allowed the filed, "Reports" that ascertain to our own property. I quoted segments of the Data protection act, as well as legislation and regulations of the Sales of Goods Act of 1979 (amended,) which clearly state that I am well within my rights. I was quoted £110 for the screen repair but hell will freeze over before I pay that.
I'm without a phone now, I can easily get it back if I pay the fees. I have wrote a formal letter, as well as an email stating that they are in fact in breach of the Sales of Goods Act, as well as the Data Protection Act. I have given them a week to reply to my letter. I am going to be seeing a solicitor in the coming days, as well as the CAB (Citizens advice bureau,) just to get support.
To reiterate this thread: I have not damaged my phone in any way. This is clearly a manufacturing defect which O2 are held responsible for, (See the Sales of Goods Act. The retailer (In this case O2,) is held liable for checking every product they sell.)
I shall keep you kind folks posted as to what happens. However, for now; I am not paying my pay monthly bill until this is sorted. As I told the O2 representative this; I was informed that I would have legal action taken against me. What do I say? Bring it on.
EDIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dc9c5YFyovU <--- This video shows what the Galaxy Note 2 can withstand. This is my silver lining to win this case. The phone is not for the purpose of, despite what Samsung say. Win

Not taking sides, but I'll say this; a similar thing happened with my HOX but HTC sent me a brand new one. I've yet to have a problem with my Note but can only hope Samsung will be as good as HTC with returns. But for every good case you hear of a bad one.
Regardless - I feel your pain. Good luck.
BTW I bought both my OneX and my Note via O2 (yes I have 2 running redundant contracts) but I didn't go through O2 with my problems. I'd rather slam me knob in a car door.
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jetsetwilly said:
Not taking sides, but I'll say this; a similar thing happened with my HOX but HTC sent me a brand new one. I've yet to have a problem with my Note but can only hope Samsung will be as good as HTC with returns. But for every good case you hear of a bad one.
Regardless - I feel your pain. Good luck.
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Cheers man. When you drop a phone, you'd expect the screen to spider. This is not the case. It's an immaculate hairline fracture. I'm debating whether to get them to send it back to me, so I can take pictures and document it further. During this, I can get it repaired third party and charge O2. I really don't know until I get a reply. All I can say is i'm fuming.

I would focus some attention to how apple deal with hairline cracks on their handsets and ipod touch's. They can tell what is caused from a manufacturing defect and what is accidental damage.
Also ask if O2's own repair facility checked the phone or Samsung themselves. If not the later get the phone back and send it Samsung.
S.
Sent from my Samsung Note II.

Tomo1971 said:
I would focus some attention to how apple deal with hairline cracks on their handsets and ipod touch's. They can tell what is caused from a manufacturing defect and what is accidental damage.
Also ask if O2's own repair facility checked the phone or Samsung themselves. If not the later get the phone back and send it Samsung.
S.
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It's O2's repair center that have my phone. I can't send it to Samsung, as they aren't binded by the regulations which I have described. O2 are in breach of 3 regulations, all in one day.
I have since resent another email showing the video that I posted in my edit. This video depicts the durability of the Galaxy Note 2. This alone is evidence that the device is not fit for the purpose of, which - Under the Sales of Good Act 1979 amended, I am entitled to repair / replace / refurbishment / refund FREE of charge as I, as a customer; Am not satisfied with the quality.
I must admit, as much as I hate Apple - Their procedure for repair and replacement is vastly superior than Samsung's.

I've since found out that this also falls under the EU Directive 1999/44/EC
(If a defect appears during the first six months following purchase the consumer will not have to prove the product was defective at the moment of delivery. The onus will be on the seller to prove the product was without defect. A consumer will have up to two months following the discovery of the fault to inform the seller. If a defect becomes apparent within the two, or one year, period depending on the type of goods, then the consumer has the right to choose a remedy using the following hierarchy. They can
· Demand repair or replacement within a reasonable time and without any significant inconvenience. (Free of charge repair refers to the necessary costs to bring the goods “back to conformity”)
· If this is impossible, unproportionate or cannot be done within a reasonable time or without significant inconvenience then the consumer can demand a price reduction or can rescind the contract (though not if the defect is minor)
All these rights are free of charge to the customer.)
Basically, as it's been 3 months - O2 HAVE to prove that I caused the damage, which will never happen - AS I DID NOT DO THE DAMAGE lol... I resent an email containing hundreds of links with similar devices (All Samsung ironically,) so shall see what happens. Looking optimistic now it's time for bed!

I'm not talking about the regulations though, Samsung will have the expertise to say if it's a manufacturing fault or consider it accidental damage. Why not give them a call and ask the question.
You can send the phone to an authorised Samsung repair center yourself. Get the phone back and get the details from Samsung of your nearest center.
S.
Sent from my Samsung Note II.

Tomo1971 said:
I'm not talking about the regulations though, Samsung will have the expertise to say if it's a manufacturing fault or consider it accidental damage. Why not give them a call and ask the question.
You can send the phone to an authorised Samsung repair center yourself. Get the phone back and get the details from Samsung of your nearest center.
S.
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I'm aware that I can go directly to Samsung, however if I do; I wouldn't have a leg to stand on. I would have to prove, that it is in fact a screen defect.
Samsung themselves have stated that LCD's are not covered by warranty, and will cost to have it repaired. The amount of threads I have read regarding Samsung products and Samsung not giving a damn astounds me.
Anyway, as I've stated, my issue at hand is with O2, who are the retailer. It is their job to ensure that all products which are sold via them, don't have any deficiencies. Now, we all know that retailers don't inspect their products - hence the reason why they usually repair / replace straight away.
The O2 repair center, as far as I believe - have contracts with manufacturers and follow their guidelines as to what can be repaired under warranty.
I'm being pedantic and doing this by the book. I will not let myself get bullied in to submission. The majority of customer's don't want the hassle, they're also unaware of their statutory rights.
I appreciate what you're suggesting, however in my case - going straight to Samsung is a bad move.

I've since emailed the CEO, CFO and COO of O2 UK. I figured why stop at the boss? I shall await further contact and shall keep this thread updated.

Suicidal Chicken said:
I've since emailed the CEO, CFO and COO of O2 UK. I figured why stop at the boss? I shall await further contact and shall keep this thread updated.
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I too have been experiencing same issue as Op. no physical damage no abuse on my part (phone is literally 6 days old at this point). Taking it to my carrier seems hopeless so I called Samsung and they gave me waybill and incident report. Contmplating sending to them now or just fix on own, as I have seen Siii owners do with removing just the glass.
What you guys think?

jay_droid said:
I too have been experiencing same issue as Op. no physical damage no abuse on my part (phone is literally 6 days old at this point). Taking it to my carrier seems hopeless so I called Samsung and they gave me waybill and incident report. Contmplating sending to them now or just fix on own, as I have seen Siii owners do with removing just the glass.
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Get in touch with your provider's CEO. Seriously, the higher you go; the better your experience shall be.

Sounds like a fault in the glass from the start, the pressure of touch on the screen over time has caused the minute fracture to enlarge.
You'd be hard pressed to cause it to do that from dropping it, dropping something on it, flexing it etc. - in those cases I would assume it to just spider.
Does the Otterbox have a rigid front cover? If so, any possibility it could have applied pressure unevenly?

kempas said:
Sounds like a fault in the glass from the start, the pressure of touch on the screen over time has caused the minute fracture to enlarge.
You'd be hard pressed to cause it to do that from dropping it, dropping something on it, flexing it etc. - in those cases I would assume it to just spider.
Does the Otterbox have a rigid front cover? If so, any possibility it could have applied pressure unevenly?
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My friend has emailed me pictures of when he dropped his Galaxy Note 2. There is spidering all over the screen as well as impact damage.
We know this to be true, I just hope the CEO's assistant can kick some ass.
The otterbox doesn't apply much pressure at all, there's no way that could cause the crack even if it had a vice grip. I'm just waiting patiently.

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Get in touch with your provider's CEO. Seriously, the higher you go; the better your experience shall be.
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Here's the thing I work for my provider in another department separate to mobile. I don't think going that far is gonna go over well
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jay_droid said:
Here's the thing I work for my provider in another department separate to mobile. I don't think going that far is gonna go over well
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Haha, oh **** man. I really don't know what to suggest. I would still say getting in contact with the CEO as a customer would get you somewhere. Despite the fact that you're an employee of your service provider,

Hi ,
O2 quoted £110 for a repaire. Are you aware if that was the actual replacement of the front glass or just a fix? Due to me recently cracking the front glass on my note 2 I have to send it to samsung to have it repaired and fixed and cwnt find a clesr answer as to how nuch they will charge. Down to your issue its poor customer service on o2's part. From what you have said they will be forced to show you the information unless of course they have t&c's in their contract agreements. But to be fair I used to work for Orange and they would issue copies of the repair reports as far as I am aware.
I hope you get the resolution your looking for .
J
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jordanprudent said:
Hi ,
O2 quoted £110 for a repaire. Are you aware if that was the actual replacement of the front glass or just a fix? Due to me recently cracking the front glass on my note 2 I have to send it to samsung to have it repaired and fixed and cwnt find a clesr answer as to how nuch they will charge. Down to your issue its poor customer service on o2's part. From what you have said they will be forced to show you the information unless of course they have t&c's in their contract agreements. But to be fair I used to work for Orange and they would issue copies of the repair reports as far as I am aware.
I hope you get the resolution your looking for .
J
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Hey man. I don't know at all, I've not been told anything regarding what needs replaced or repaired. I imagine that it'll be the whole Glass, LCD and Digitiser replacement as their "engineer's" are pretty incompetent. I've checked the T&C over and over again, there's nothing that says i'm not entitled to reports, even if there was - Under the Data Protection Act I'm entitled to it. It's been a whole f*ck up and I woke up today, with the feeling of, "F*ck it;" You know? I'm only still fighting as it's principle.

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Hey man. I don't know at all, I've not been told anything regarding what needs replaced or repaired. I imagine that it'll be the whole Glass, LCD and Digitiser replacement as their "engineer's" are pretty incompetent. I've checked the T&C over and over again, there's nothing that says i'm not entitled to reports, even if there was - Under the Data Protection Act I'm entitled to it. It's been a whole f*ck up and I woke up today, with the feeling of, "F*ck it;" You know? I'm only still fighting as it's principle.
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Fight till the end. Mother ****ers!
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Do you have any pictures of the crack? I only ask as I have had a VERY similar thing happen to my Note 2 also from O2. My defect (because that's what it is, I haven't caused this, haven't dropped it etc) looks like a smudge in the bottom right hand corner of the screen and if you wipe with a cloth it seems to disappear. But if you wipe the screen with a wet finger you can clearly see what appears to be a single hairline crack from the edge of the screen across the corner of the phone to the home button. 1 hairline crack. Now you can't feel this crack with your fingernail and you cannot see it with the screen on. It's almost like there is a smudge under the screen but if you wipe it enough with a cloth it does disappear (it's very strange). Most people can't even notice it I have to point it out to them.
I did contemplate sending it back to buymobilephones.net under their 30 day warranty but I've heard horror stories of phones going missing, getting a refurbed one back that was worse than the one they sent or them saying I've done it and charging me for repair etc. I've decided to live with it and if it gets any worse I'll claim on my insurance. I'm just curious to see if it's a similar issue to what you have.
I'll try and take a picture but tbh I don't think you'd be able to see anything as it's hard enough when looking directly at it. But I know it's there, and that annoys me slightly.

quertiy said:
Fight till the end. Mother ****ers!
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Hell yea brother!
iouk said:
Do you have any pictures of the crack? I only ask as I have had a VERY similar thing happen to my Note 2 also from O2. My defect (because that's what it is, I haven't caused this, haven't dropped it etc) looks like a smudge in the bottom right hand corner of the screen and if you wipe with a cloth it seems to disappear. But if you wipe the screen with a wet finger you can clearly see what appears to be a single hairline crack from the edge of the screen across the corner of the phone to the home button. 1 hairline crack. Now you can't feel this crack with your fingernail and you cannot see it with the screen on. It's almost like there is a smudge under the screen but if you wipe it enough with a cloth it does disappear (it's very strange). Most people can't even notice it I have to point it out to them.
I did contemplate sending it back to buymobilephones.net under their 30 day warranty but I've heard horror stories of phones going missing, getting a refurbed one back that was worse than the one they sent or them saying I've done it and charging me for repair etc. I've decided to live with it and if it gets any worse I'll claim on my insurance. I'm just curious to see if it's a similar issue to what you have.
I'll try and take a picture but tbh I don't think you'd be able to see anything as it's hard enough when looking directly at it. But I know it's there, and that annoys me slightly.
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Sorry mate I don't have a picture. I too couldn't feel it with my nails. I had an email arrive yesterday but was since "returned" with the message, "Sorry, I did not mean to send this email." I was left in state of confusion and contempt, to which I replied with a single word - "What?!"

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So I don't treat my phones roughly, so I don't put cases on them, that and the X feels great in my hand....not anymore. Its screen is completely shattered after one drop, luckily I could use Touchless controls to call ATT to get insurance...there goes 200 more dollars after I paid 270 for it 2 weeks ago. And since it's my second claim on insurance I lose the right to pay for insurance (I know right? The first claim was because the USB port on my inspire died but whatever) for a year.
Time to buy a case. Be careful guys. let this be a word of warning.
(Here's hoping they at least let me Motomake again but I doubt it.)

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So I don't treat my phones roughly, so I don't put cases on them, that and the X feels great in my hand....not anymore. Its screen is completely shattered after one drop, luckily I could use Touchless controls to call ATT to get insurance...there goes 200 more dollars after I paid 270 for it 2 weeks ago. And since it's my second claim on insurance I lose the right to pay for insurance (I know right? The first claim was because the USB port on my inspire died but whatever) for a year.
Time to buy a case. Be careful guys. let this be a word of warning.
(Here's hoping they at least let me Motomake again but I doubt it.)
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Ouch I was lucky and saw the good folks spreading the Verizon discount code so I only dropped 140 on this, my favorite phone evar. I also don't use cases. Sorry to hear about your screen! Let us know what happens
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Sorry to hear about your x!. Check out squaretrade.com next time for insurance. Their pricing is cheaper per month and best of all, NO refurbs! If they can't fix your phone in 5 days, they cut you a check for a new one. They're all I've been using since I got my ps3 a few years ago and was worried about it breaking

How did you drop it? Ive been looking for drop test videos for our phone but no luck

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How did you drop it? Ive been looking for drop test videos for our phone but no luck
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Bug landed as I was walking with my phone out, thought it was a yellow jacket, jumped, phone didn't jump with me.
I tried calling Motorola as well and it was the same price and a longer turnaround, I'll take the not paying for insurance for a year to get a phone asap, although it might just be a black or white one, I was able to get a case and protector for the X out of ATT but that's about it.
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And insurance says "You give us your 200 dollars and you LIKE YOUR BLACK PHONE"
Screw ATT. I sent a tweet to Moto/Motosupport with the picture too, of course there's no reply.

Keep pushing at MotorolaSupport, also try emailing them at supportforums [at] motorola [dot] com ... the guy who controls that twitter monitors that email.

Holy sweet handgrenades. I've now spent 8+ hours on the phone dealing with ATT/Motorola/Mobile Insurance, everyone wants 200 dollars to fix a phone that broke after one fall 13 days into ownership. Motorola has pushed me to sign paperwork to file an insurance claim then told me "Oh no you didn't have to do that" when it's their defective device. ATT is now on my side, but if Moto doesn't figure out their lives before the insurance claims clears....that'll be /fun/
I've been escalated to either level 2 or level 3 Motomaker support to see what they can do, although they've already heard my patented "voice of satan" telling them they're full of it.

ShamanicEnzan said:
Holy sweet handgrenades. I've now spent 8+ hours on the phone dealing with ATT/Motorola/Mobile Insurance, everyone wants 200 dollars to fix a phone that broke after one fall 13 days into ownership. Motorola has pushed me to sign paperwork to file an insurance claim then told me "Oh no you didn't have to do that" when it's their defective device. ATT is now on my side, but if Moto doesn't figure out their lives before the insurance claims clears....that'll be /fun/
I've been escalated to either level 2 or level 3 Motomaker support to see what they can do, although they've already heard my patented "voice of satan" telling them they're full of it.
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i'm struggling to understand how "its their defective device" when you dropped it.

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i'm struggling to understand how "its their defective device" when you dropped it.
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I agree how is it it defective if it broke when it was dropped by the user.....?
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Dropped my phone off the top bunk of a bunk bed. Fell flat on the screen; not a scratch on it. I know use an otter box case, just in case
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It's that sense of entitlement people have these days. Blame someone else for their own error. You dropped it dude, The defect is not in the phone.
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I fail to see how dropping a phone is anyone else's fault.

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I fail to see how dropping a phone is anyone else's fault.
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I agree, Unfortunately if the screen is cracked from a fall/drop, it doesn't matter if it happens 13 days after or the minute you walk out of the store.

sleepyguy007 said:
i'm struggling to understand how "its their defective device" when you dropped it.
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I fail to see how dropping a phone is anyone else's fault.
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(This preword was written after the following post was completed, if any one feels I'm attacking them I apologize and I try to explain why I feel dropping it shouldn't have caused the extensive amount of damage. I've been told 4 different things by 5 different people within ATT/Motorola and the one thing I despise most is terrible service, this has gone from being a phone issue to being a support issue in my eyes.)
Because anything you pay for should not be this weak. It fell three feet. If it had just a surface crack, I'd be fine and suck it up and deal. This phone is destroyed. The screen is cracked just like the old iPhones, the phone casing is rattled enough that the volume buttons have slid into the casing of the phone a bit.
Should I have had a case on it? You know what I'll give you that point, it may have cushioned the blow and prevented the issue, but do you really believe something you pay money for should require extra protection to survive a fall taken during normal usage? That kind of thinking gives manufacturers the ability to put out inferior devices build wise, which to most of us here sounds like something that should come with the territory, but it shouldn't.
Nobody should pay 200+ dollars for a device, use it like any normal person, and have it break like this 13 days into owning it, if I was an extreme sports person (I'm 6'4 and uncoordinated so no) or if this was about a year and a half (even 6 months) into owning the device but this isn't the result of mishandling. It screams horrible build quality
In 10+ years of owning mobile devices, the only thing I've done to my phones is bend one USB plug out of shape. Besides keeping the device on a memory foam pillow, I've treated my Moto X extremely well.
I will accept that I dropped it. I will accept there was no case on the device. I will not accept that one mixture of those two facts will completely wreck a phone. Should Motorola/ATT have questions? I think a few are acceptable, but they should also stand by their customers who trust them not only with what is becoming a bigger part of their lives, their mobile service, but with their hard earned cash.
Maybe I'm idealistic and believe too much in the rights of the consumer but "You shouldn't have dropped it" just doesn't cut in my book when the damage is this extensive.

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Because anything you pay for should not be this weak. It fell three feet. If it had just a surface crack, I'd be fine and suck it up and deal. This phone is destroyed. The screen is cracked just like the old iPhones, the phone casing is rattled enough that the volume buttons have slid into the casing of the phone a bit.
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People will say that sort of thing till something similar happens to them. Good luck man; hope you can figure something out. And next time, case, case, case!
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Holy sweet handgrenades. I've now spent 8+ hours on the phone dealing with ATT/Motorola/Mobile Insurance, everyone wants 200 dollars to fix a phone that broke after one fall 13 days into ownership. Motorola has pushed me to sign paperwork to file an insurance claim then told me "Oh no you didn't have to do that" when it's their defective device. ATT is now on my side, but if Moto doesn't figure out their lives before the insurance claims clears....that'll be /fun/
I've been escalated to either level 2 or level 3 Motomaker support to see what they can do, although they've already heard my patented "voice of satan" telling them they're full of it.
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Don't drop your phone. The fact that it cracked up is not a reflection of the Moto X quality. It's the fact that "chance favors the prepared mind" as somone once said. Every time I switch to a new phone, there's always a thread like this one. Somone drops it and it blows up. That's all on you unfortunately. It sucks, we're all here for you, but there's no other alternative and that's why they sell insurance in the first place.
I got lucky many times with my Razr. My wife was lucky many times with her Iphone 4, until one day it dropped "JUST RIGHT" and el-cracko. But, completely her fault for dropping the phone.
If you rear end someone with your new car, you can't just claim it should have gotten damaged for such a light "tap".

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(This preword was written after the following post was completed, if any one feels I'm attacking them I apologize and I try to explain why I feel dropping it shouldn't have caused the extensive amount of damage. I've been told 4 different things by 5 different people within ATT/Motorola and the one thing I despise most is terrible service, this has gone from being a phone issue to being a support issue in my eyes.)
Because anything you pay for should not be this weak. It fell three feet. If it had just a surface crack, I'd be fine and suck it up and deal. This phone is destroyed. The screen is cracked just like the old iPhones, the phone casing is rattled enough that the volume buttons have slid into the casing of the phone a bit.
Should I have had a case on it? You know what I'll give you that point, it may have cushioned the blow and prevented the issue, but do you really believe something you pay money for should require extra protection to survive a fall taken during normal usage? That kind of thinking gives manufacturers the ability to put out inferior devices build wise, which to most of us here sounds like something that should come with the territory, but it shouldn't.
Nobody should pay 200+ dollars for a device, use it like any normal person, and have it break like this 13 days into owning it, if I was an extreme sports person (I'm 6'4 and uncoordinated so no) or if this was about a year and a half (even 6 months) into owning the device but this isn't the result of mishandling. It screams horrible build quality
In 10+ years of owning mobile devices, the only thing I've done to my phones is bend one USB plug out of shape. Besides keeping the device on a memory foam pillow, I've treated my Moto X extremely well.
I will accept that I dropped it. I will accept there was no case on the device. I will not accept that one mixture of those two facts will completely wreck a phone. Should Motorola/ATT have questions? I think a few are acceptable, but they should also stand by their customers who trust them not only with what is becoming a bigger part of their lives, their mobile service, but with their hard earned cash.
Maybe I'm idealistic and believe too much in the rights of the consumer but "You shouldn't have dropped it" just doesn't cut in my book when the damage is this extensive.
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It's glass. You cannot predict how it will break. I have seen devices fall off of a roof onto concrete and come away fine. I have also seen a phone fall from 2-3 feet onto carpet and the screen shattered from top to bottom. It has everything to do with how and what part of the device the impact occurs and nothing to do with build quality. Glass is glass and it breaks, period. I really feel bad for you and don't want to come across as an ass but when you are dealing with screens made of glass you can't blame build quality on a drop.

Htc awful customer service and warranty department

Have purchased 8 HTC devices over the last 10 years and most recently the One M9. I was prepared to give HTC a chance when the press ridiculed them for lack of progress versus competitors.
My biggest problem was HTC's awful customer service/warranty department who when made aware of the sapphire glass on my rear camera failing would NOT repair it under warranty and told me that I would have to pay for it myself. The device has a Tempered Glass Protector on Screen and Camera along with a Spigen Case on top. My loyalty means nothing to HTC and I will NEVER spend my hard earned money on a HTC product again. I would NEVER recommend HTC to ANYONE and I can see now why the Company has gone into decline. Failure to look after Loyal customers will result in their demise when Samsung LG and Apple are vastly superior in this department.
My Galaxy S5 developed a problem with the rocker buttons and was fixed free of charge a full year into ownership. My iPhone 4s developed an issue with Battery and they simply replaced the device. HTC didn't want to know.
I feel that if this is how they treat their loyal customers then they simply deserve to fail. My hard earned money will be spent elsewhere from now on.
Have you guys had issues with HTC??? If you haven't yet considered a HTC device but might consider one then please do be careful.

jody04c said:
Have purchased 8 HTC devices over the last 10 years and most recently the One M9. I was prepared to give HTC a chance when the press ridiculed them for lack of progress versus competitors.
My biggest problem was HTC's awful customer service/warranty department who when made aware of the sapphire glass on my rear camera failing would NOT repair it under warranty and told me that I would have to pay for it myself. The device has a Tempered Glass Protector on Screen and Camera along with a Spigen Case on top. My loyalty means nothing to HTC and I will NEVER spend my hard earned money on a HTC product again. I would NEVER recommend HTC to ANYONE and I can see now why the Company has gone into decline. Failure to look after Loyal customers will result in their demise when Samsung LG and Apple are vastly superior in this department.
My Galaxy S5 developed a problem with the rocker buttons and was fixed free of charge a full year into ownership. My iPhone 4s developed an issue with Battery and they simply replaced the device. HTC didn't want to know.
I feel that if this is how they treat their loyal customers then they simply deserve to fail. My hard earned money will be spent elsewhere from now on.
Have you guys had issues with HTC??? If you haven't yet considered a HTC device but might consider one then please do be careful.
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I've had six M9's trying to get a phone without a bent frame around the screen! On the last one I thought that rather than return it to Amazon again, I would speak to HTC and see if they would fix the frame for me so I could keep it, as I really love the phone.
The customer service rep basically told me that I would have to pay for them to look at it and for any repairs made and that it was my fault for purchasing a cheap phone from Amazon and not from them directly.
So my reply was, do HTC make two versions of this phone, one cheap that has build quality problems and the other expensive which is perfect? She was confused and said all are the same?! Basically I told her that HTC have serious issues with this handset and she denied it. I highlighted the company is in trouble and that good service is needed to keep loyal customers from leaving, she didn't think HTC had any worries about it's business?! On complete denial about everything and no help at all.
So, long and short of it, I returned the handset to Amazon and will never go near HTC again. I used my local guy in China to source me a Nubia Z9 Mini so i can give the new IMX234 a go, as the camera looks bloody amazing, unlike the M9!

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I've had six M9's trying to get a phone without a bent frame around the screen! On the last one I thought that rather than return it to Amazon again, I would speak to HTC and see if they would fix the frame for me so I could keep it, as I really love the phone.
The customer service rep basically told me that I would have to pay for them to look at it and for any repairs made and that it was my fault for purchasing a cheap phone from Amazon and not from them directly.
So my reply was, do HTC make two versions of this phone, one cheap that has build quality problems and the other expensive which is perfect? She was confused and said all are the same?! Basically I told her that HTC have serious issues with this handset and she denied it. I highlighted the company is in trouble and that good service is needed to keep loyal customers from leaving, she didn't think HTC had any worries about it's business?! On complete denial about everything and no help at all.
So, long and short of it, I returned the handset to Amazon and will never go near HTC again. I used my local guy in China to source me a Nubia Z9 Mini so i can give the new IMX234 a go, as the camera looks bloody amazing, unlike the M9!
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Its no surprise they are a failing company when that is how they treat loyal customers who have a genuine quality control issue. The support from HTC is disgusting. I'm glad to hear they have lost another customer due to their awful support.

I have had zero problems with their customer service or warranty. In fact they corrected a problem sprint created. Everyone has a different experience. Samsung and apple both treated me like ****. Hell apple charged me for a phone I didn't even have lol had to go to court.
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Well there are also customers that drop their phone and it breaks glass, scratches, dents, dings, starts malfunctioning, etc....and then they call HTC and say it is defective and not their fault. Unfortunately HTC has no way of knowing who is lying and who is not. If they exchanged phones for every customer that claimed defect, they would be exchanging phones that people broke left and right. Certain things shouldn't come loose or start to rattle and if that starts happening they will know it is a defect once they get enough cases. Unfortunately with glass, it is the easiest and most common thing broken on a phone, so doing warranty replacements for broken glass is rare. A screen protector and case do nothing for protecting the camera glass. Most people this has happened to are blaming excessive heat. So I'm assuming you had your phone on the charger over night and it may have overheated from the charger. It would be nice if HTC would at least make an effort to investigate and see if this is possibly happening.

I've only had one experience with HTC customer service, but they replaced the pink tint camera on my M7 for just the labor costs even though it was out of warranty and two years old. YMMV, I guess.

I had this problem as well. It's like talking to a wall with these guys. If you say we will replace your phone no matter what the problem,no questions asked, than you best live up it. When I called, I was bombarded with questions and told I had to pay for them to fix it.

I'll just chime in with my own experience...
I had an HTC One Mini that developed hairline cracks in the plastic (this was a VERY common issue with this phone) and talking with HTC support was, like BR7fan said, talking to a freaking wall. They were totally unaware of the issue even though it was widely reported on XDA. They said they MIGHT be able to fix it for free, but they couldn't tell until they saw it (understandable). But there was a chance I'd have to pay for repair even though there was obviously damage related to neglect. Also, I work remotely, so I have to have my phone for work and the only option was for me to send it in and wait for repair. Anyway, I was frustrated and ended up taking the phone to an AT&T service center and sweet talking them to swap it out for me.
My second experience with HTC was more recent and much better. I had my M8 in my shirt pocket and bent over to pick something up and it slipped out onto the concrete. The glass cracked and there was damage to the metal body. This time I used chat support and the rep couldn't have been better to deal with. I told him what happened, and he checked and said I was eligible for a replacement under the screen replacement policy. I told him that the metal had also been damaged, and he asked me to describe the damage, and while he wouldn't say with 100% certainty that there wouldn't be a problem swapping it out (understandable since I could have been under-reporting the level of damage) he said kind of off the record that if the damage was as I described, there wouldn't be a problem. Anyway, they put a $599 hold on my card + $29 for overnight shipping and the next day I had my new M8 and sent my damaged one back. About a week later the hold was removed from my card.
Anyway, I've had awful CS experiences at a lot of places and then later had great ones. I think it's really hit or miss with these large corporations.
Finally, I think HTC is attempting to shift their warranty policy to be more liberal in replacing/repairing physically damaged phones and honoring warranty for unlocked ones. It seems like this shift isn't going as smoothly as some of us consumers would like.

cstrife999 said:
Hell apple charged me for a phone I didn't even have lol had to go to court.
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Please expand on that

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My gd had an iPhone 4 though att and paid for apple care and the whatnot. Well she lost the sim card for it (don't ask) and we had to go to att to replace it. The clerk dropped and broke her phone. Att said they would give her a new one without issue as it was 100% fault of the store clerk. Apple sent an email claiming she was commuting fraud and the video evidence that was sent was altered. Att fought with them and eventually won. Well they gave her the phone and everything was fine. Then apple sent an email and a bill through the mail for damages for an iPhone 5s that she didn't have and claimed they could prosecute her for fraud... Yea... In the end apple got her a 5s and she got to keep the 4 as way of a settlement. She could have really ****ed apple up.
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My gd had an iPhone 4 though att and paid for apple care and the whatnot. Well she lost the sim card for it (don't ask) and we had to go to att to replace it. The clerk dropped and broke her phone. Att said they would give her a new one without issue as it was 100% fault of the store clerk. Apple sent an email claiming she was commuting fraud and the video evidence that was sent was altered. Att fought with them and eventually won. Well they gave her the phone and everything was fine. Then apple sent an email and a bill through the mail for damages for an iPhone 5s that she didn't have and claimed they could prosecute her for fraud... Yea... In the end apple got her a 5s and she got to keep the 4 as way of a settlement. She could have really ****ed apple up.
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I think it goes to show how customer service can be inconsistent, which in itself is a problem.
My first 6plus had a sunken home button, so wouldn't 'click' as such and the edge of the hole in the glass where the button fits was sharp and uncomfortable to use. Walked in to my local Apple store and walked out with a brand new handset within 5mins, no questions asked.
Got my other half a iPhone 6 and had to return it as she won't move on from her G2, got a refund instantly, again no questions.
Anyone got any ideas how to get my wife away from the G2? Everything else I get for her to try she doesn't like because the bloody icons and app settings are different, between platforms and handsets!

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I think it goes to show how customer service can be inconsistent, which in itself is a problem.
My first 6plus had a sunken home button, so wouldn't 'click' as such and the edge of the hole in the glass where the button fits was sharp and uncomfortable to use. Walked in to my local Apple store and walked out with a brand new handset within 5mins, no questions asked.
Got my other half a iPhone 6 and had to return it as she won't move on from her G2, got a refund instantly, again no questions.
Anyone got any ideas how to get my wife away from the G2? Everything else I get for her to try she doesn't like because the bloody icons and app settings are different, between platforms and handsets!
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Yeah, too often it seem to depend on what CSR you get, and how their supervisor has been behaving that week.
I've twice had to get the trackpad on my MBP replaced, both times were my fault (too much eating and drinking at my desk :silly, and both times Apple fixed it no questions asked under the protection plan.

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Anyone got any ideas how to get my wife away from the G2? Everything else I get for her to try she doesn't like because the bloody icons and app settings are different, between platforms and handsets!
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When you figure that out pls share the secret!
My wife has a freaking blackberry z10!!! That she doesn't want to give up because "everything is set up how she wants it".....
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I can tell you that Apple is undoubtedly the BEST in the service and support department! I just don't understand how these other companies can't see how simple it is and just do it the way Apple does! I mean, it makes me not want to buy another Samsung, LG or HTC product, because ALL of them I have had issues with at one point or another. The one time I had an issue with Apple I was so pissed off that I called in to customer care and spoke to a manager about the problem that I had at a store nearby. She saw that I had purchased about 10 Apple devices in the last 8 years or so, and gave me $150 credit for Apple accessories and also next day aired me a brand new 6 Plus because the Apple store would not replace it after I was having problems and I just got done spending almost a grand for the damn thing! These phones are expensive, and if these companies can't take care of us then go somewhere else because someone is willing to take care of you the right way! Just like this G4 I have that has marks on the display due to a screen coating issue at the plant. Because it;s an International model they won't touch it! WOW I understand that companies don't honor some warranties when you buy an imported phone, but when it's 3 days old and the phone just came out and it has defects that are 100% LG's fault, they should have just told me to send the damn thing in and they would fix it, now they lost my business! That just cost them quite a bit considering I buy EVERY damn flagship that comes out! (almost) They don't care though.... -END OF RANT-

jollywhitefoot said:
I'll just chime in with my own experience...
I had an HTC One Mini that developed hairline cracks in the plastic (this was a VERY common issue with this phone) and talking with HTC support was, like BR7fan said, talking to a freaking wall. They were totally unaware of the issue even though it was widely reported on XDA. They said they MIGHT be able to fix it for free, but they couldn't tell until they saw it (understandable).
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Uh they ARE aware of that, I talked about it with people from HTC (and Elevate) and they fixed my border without hassle (though I got a border back that's in even worse shape, but I blame Dynafix for that, not HTC.)

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Uh they ARE aware of that, I talked about it with people from HTC (and Elevate) and they fixed my border without hassle (though I got a border back that's in even worse shape, but I blame Dynafix for that, not HTC.)
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Sorry, I should have clarified. This was about a month or two after they came out.

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Sorry, I should have clarified. This was about a month or two after they came out.
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Ah yeah, my request was like a year after release.
But come on, if it was only a month or 2 after release it could be expected that they (the support) wasn't aware of that. Because at first hearing about it, HTC will most likely just sit by and keep eye on it, see if many experience it (as in a certain % compared to sold devices) and then decide to undertake action or just play ffin stupid.
Support can't be blamed with that, they just followed order

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Ah yeah, my request was like a year after release.
But come on, if it was only a month or 2 after release it could be expected that they (the support) wasn't aware of that. Because at first hearing about it, HTC will most likely just sit by and keep eye on it, see if many experience it (as in a certain % compared to sold devices) and then decide to undertake action or just play ffin stupid.
Support can't be blamed with that, they just followed order
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I wasn't blaming the person. There was already a thread on XDA aboout the issue, but I imagine CS reps are discouraged from acknowledging internet speculation. I was frustrated with the system that was going to make me send my phone in for repair rather than them sending me a new one (with a CC hold, obviously) and then me sending the defective one back. I guess it wasn't clear in my post, but I use this phone for work and didn't have a backup.

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Haha, you should. It's exactly as you say it is to the company "just speculation", companies always use bull**** like "only vocal minority" to deceive others. So they rather keep it quiet and ignore forums like this on purpose

I owned a beautiful metallic red HTC One m7 untill recently. It was rooted + BL unlocked (not S-off) since day1 and never ran stock rom. I started noticing all the pictures were out of focus and that camera was stuck in macro mode. I took it back to shop for warranty (it was 1y 8 months old) and they sent it back to HTC for repair. Bootloader showed Relock and it was on an old stock rom nandroid that I found from internet
Almost 3 weeks later it was back, with new camera that was excellent again. They updated to latest Lollipop rom even, with BL still in relock. However they messed up upper speaker grill as the metal was no longer flush with body (stuck out enough to be clearly felt by finger when swiping on screen). I took it back to shop, complained and it got sent away again.
Another 2,5 weeks go by and I get the phone back. This time HTC completely changed the body and screen. It was like having a brand new One M7 in beautiful red. It had still same motherboard and still relock BL. However.... they forgot to install/connect the headset speaker.. so I had no sound when calling someone >_>. Back to shop, complain, explain and return the phone..
So a week later I got the phone back. Except I didnt get the phone back. What I got back was a 32GB M9 in gunmetal grey. I am both happy to have a proper upgrade and for free, a little sad to see my lovely M7 taken from me and quite disappointed in the QC of HTC repair centres.