[Q] T-Mobile Monthly 4G Roaming. - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Has anyone on T-Mo's monthly 4G noticed that if you go to roaming and then go back in an area where you would normally have HSPA or 3G that it doesn't switch back to signal and it just stays on roaming? It doesn't happen all the time just every so often.

How did you get to roam on monthly4g? I didn't think you could roam.
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ackliph said:
How did you get to roam on monthly4g? I didn't think you could roam.
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It isn't roaming with data, just voice and text roaming.

How do you know it's roaming? Is there an R or do I have to go to the special menu? I've gone to Butlerville, AR where I know there is AT&T service, and I get no service.
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I'd love to force this thing into roaming sometimes. I've tried forcing registering onto AT&T but it never lets me.
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How do you know it's roaming? Is there an R or do I have to go to the special menu? I've gone to Butlerville, AR where I know there is AT&T service, and I get no service.
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I'd love to force this thing into roaming sometimes. I've tried forcing registering onto AT&T but it never lets me.
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Yeah, when you're roaming there will be a little R in the signal indicator where 3G or HSPA would normally be.

so still no answer to the OP's question? Sounds like a valid question to me and I also would like to know the answer and I don't yet have T-mobile.

ackliph said:
How do you know it's roaming? Is there an R or do I have to go to the special menu? I've gone to Butlerville, AR where I know there is AT&T service, and I get no service.
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I'd love to force this thing into roaming sometimes. I've tried forcing registering onto AT&T but it never lets me.
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Even somewhere where AT&T has service you won't necessarily roam. T-mobile only has roaming contracts with AT&T in some areas, so if you're in an area not covered by a roaming contract, you won't be able to get roaming, not even by trying to force register to AT&T. I've tried, believe me. T-Mo generally only has roaming contracts in areas where there are 10+sq miles of non-coverage, e.g. most of Montana.

MusicMan374 said:
Even somewhere where AT&T has service you won't necessarily roam. T-mobile only has roaming contracts with AT&T in some areas, so if you're in an area not covered by a roaming contract, you won't be able to get roaming, not even by trying to force register to AT&T. I've tried, believe me. T-Mo generally only has roaming contracts in areas where there are 10+sq miles of non-coverage, e.g. most of Montana.
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That's been my experience as well. I've been in plenty of places where there was strong AT&T signal, but I had no service. The only place I've ever actually roamed on Monthly4G was in Alaska...and I can confirm that it was voice/text only.

Isn't there a setting in the Mobile network settings section that enable data roaming?

stud_muffler said:
Isn't there a setting in the Mobile network settings section that enable data roaming?
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Wouldn't matter. T-Mobile has it disabled at the plan level.

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Turn ON LTE on Nexus 4

hi, you can simply turn on LTE radio on Nexus 4. Look here http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GXOY9EVZ4vA#
Fantastic!
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lolwut? I get 17Mbps down here in Chicago on HSPA+. There's no need for that battery draining pos LTE if you ask me.
I did the phone menu thing and changed it to lte/CDMA/gsm and its a little faster.
Going to do a speed test.
I'm on T-Mobile BTW and either way my phone gets the H not the 4g icon
Going to download speed test and screen shoot the difference to see
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KiNG OMaR said:
lolwut? I get 17Mbps down here in Chicago on HSPA+. There's no need for that battery draining pos LTE if you ask me.
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We couldnt get LTE on our Nexus 4's here on ATT if we wanted...I tried it doesnt pick up ATT's network when you force LTE Mode.
jaestreetss said:
I did the phone menu thing and changed it to lte/CDMA/gsm and its a little faster.
Going to do a speed test.
I'm on T-Mobile BTW and either way my phone gets the H not the 4g icon
Going to download speed test and screen shoot the difference to see
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TMobile does not have LTE. It will not make a diff with TMobile SIM.
This may work if you have an ATT SIM and in ATT's LTE area.
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djkinetic said:
We couldnt get LTE on our Nexus 4's here on ATT if we wanted...I tried it doesnt pick up ATT's network when you force LTE Mode.
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Are you sure LTE is available in your area?
junks2010 said:
TMobile does not have LTE. It will not make a diff with TMobile SIM.
This may work if you have an ATT SIM and in ATT's LTE area.
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Are you sure LTE is available in your area?
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isn't working on ATT, for me at least it isnt, and I know theres LTE coverage here, when my S III on ATT is sitting with LTE service, and my N4 isnt picking up any service while in LTE Mode, both microsims are LTE enabled with LTE shared Data Plans, both have APN set to pta (manually added on N4)
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isn't working on ATT, for me at least it isnt, and I know theres LTE coverage here, when my S III on ATT is sitting with LTE service, and my N4 isnt picking up any service while in LTE Mode, both microsims are LTE enabled with LTE shared Data Plans, both have APN set to pta (manually added on N4)
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Thanks for confirming.
Pretty sure it's been confirmed on some att. Did you change your APN settings to match what the s3 has?
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Basically if it's not Band 4 it won't be supported, Band 4 only appears to be active in Canada, and in America (AT&T, but i guess either it may only be rolled out in some places, or they may just have the spectrum, but not actively use it for LTE)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
Why was this thread needed? There is a perfectly good one in general where ALL of this has been discussed?
droidmakespwn said:
Pretty sure it's been confirmed on some att. Did you change your APN settings to match what the s3 has?
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Yes settings are the same.
Doesn't work for att here but also every time I use the *#*#4636#*#* I keep getting a setting force close I have cleared settings data and factory reset any ideas?
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Thanks for the tip OP! I'm on the Rogers network here in Toronto Canada and this tweak worked perfectly!
My only concern is how will this affect the battery?
Confirmed via speed test app that this is in fact LTE speeds!
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As stated in last post on first page of this thread. Canada using Band 4, and USA ATT is using Band 17. So less there's this phone does somehow support Band 17, and just need proper settings, then we are SOL for this fix.
"Since TELUS has the same LTE band 4 (1700/2100MHz) as Bell and Rogers, this means the Nexus 4's LTE will probably work on those carriers too.
UPDATE: AT&T has only rolled out LTE on Band 17 so far, so this won't work on AT&T.
" - Quoted from OP youtube posting.
Rogers LTE speeds here in Toronto Canada
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What is 'R'?

I have AT&T and I'm traveling across the country. Most of the places I have Edge but sometimes I'm stuck with whatever R is.
I'm assuming it means roaming but I don't get it. I've gone whole states (Arizona) stuck on R. How do I avoid this and stay on edge? Any ideas?
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"R" is roaming, as you've surmised. I have this issue with T-Mobile a LOT. Still haven't figured out how to disable roaming altogether. The only option I see is data on roaming. Apparently we weren't given a choice.
That's unfortunate to hear. I feel like being in roaming is pointless. Oh well, I'm in Oklahoma now and have had edge the whole time. Thanks for the reply
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Roaming is taking other networks tmobile has partnered with in the area and you get their service from their towers.

[Q] Forced roaming

I use roam control. One of the issues with samsung devices is when in "roam only", they only roam on the 800mhz frequency band.
I'm not sure why this is, and not sure if it's changed since the GS2 (which is what i'm on).
Anyone know if the S4 has this issue?
thanks
Not sure roam control is working yet.
I set it up and when im "roaming" it still shows I'm on sprints network. I get 3g when i force roam (i only got 1x on my e4gt). But like i said, its probably a function of not being compatible yet.
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really hope this gets updated for the s4, was thinking of upgrading to this device tomorrow, and i use roam control to force roaming while i am at work.
Me too. But definitely watch your usage. Been a customer for 9 years. Got the boot letter today because of my roaming activities.
Roam Control doesn't seem to be working yet. I need it for when I'm at work also.
oohaylima, were you using the s4? Do you know how much and for how long you were going over the "limit" before you got the boot letter?
@ oohaylima, man that sucks, what were ur averages roaming?, did u have to pay an ETF?, and how many warning letters were u given?
oohaylima said:
Me too. But definitely watch your usage. Been a customer for 9 years. Got the boot letter today because of my roaming activities.
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Sounds like you're now eligible for the upgrade then
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@ oohaylima, man that sucks, what were ur averages roaming?, did u have to pay an ETF?, and how many warning letters were u given?
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They won't charge anything. They warn customer 2 to 3 times and then cancel your contract if the roaming persists. I've roamed about 60gb the last 2 billing cycles and haven't had any problems yet.
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tygger said:
Roam Control doesn't seem to be working yet. I need it for when I'm at work also.
oohaylima, were you using the s4? Do you know how much and for how long you were going over the "limit" before you got the boot letter?
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I just got the S4. So it looks like I lucked out on this termination deal.
According to the letter they warned me last November about my usage.
Never got it though. So around 5 months or so.
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@ oohaylima, man that sucks, what were ur averages roaming?, did u have to pay an ETF?, and how many warning letters were u given?
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Don't know the average, but with Sprint, anything over 300 MB while roaming is a big no no.
No ETF fee. They waive it. They give you a month to change services. That's very nice of b them.
Delakit said:
Sounds like you're now eligible for the upgrade then
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They won't charge anything. They warn customer 2 to 3 times and then cancel your contract if the roaming persists. I've roamed about 60gb the last 2 billing cycles and haven't had any problems yet.
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Darn right I took that upgrade! I'll be headed over to TING. And since they use Sprint towers, I'll still be in this section.
Any updates on whether Roam Control is working on this phone?
I see the app hasn't been updated for a while, and I know the author doesn't respond quickly (or at all) to support emails, so figured I'd check with the forum.
I never could get it working right on my old phone, but I'm hoping I can still get some use out of this app.
bender29 said:
Any updates on whether Roam Control is working on this phone?
I see the app hasn't been updated for a while, and I know the author doesn't respond quickly (or at all) to support emails, so figured I'd check with the forum.
I never could get it working right on my old phone, but I'm hoping I can still get some use out of this app.
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Not working yet.
I'll be sure to reply when the dev releases an update.
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Roam Control still not working on Samsung Galaxy S4. Come on.

Can I use an unlocked Verizon iPhone 5 on Sprint?

Might buy a friend's but it is Verizon. I know it is factory unlocked, but can I use it on Sprint?
**** iCrap GTFO! But yes you can switch from verizon to sprint, they are both cdma networks
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jrollercoasters said:
**** iCrap GTFO! But yes you can switch from verizon to sprint, they are both cdma networks
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Yes, but would Sprint be willing to activate it for him?
Hardware-wise the Sprint and Verizon iPhone 5 are essentially identical.
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Might buy a friend's but it is Verizon. I know it is factory unlocked, but can I use it on Sprint?
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No.
Sprint does not allow phones from other networks in their networks even if it is unlocked.
I tried to bring over my factory unlocked iPhone 5 and it would not take the MEI number. The Phone must be purchased from sprint in order to use their network.
I don't believe that ESN #s that don't originate from sprint can be activated by sprint. their policy. but metropcs would work.
This thread will probably get locked soon. I don't think the cdma and lte technologies are compatible between the two companies.
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This thread will probably get locked soon. I don't think the cdma and lte technologies are compatible between the two companies.
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They're not. It's not possible.
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They're not. It's not possible.
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That is an incorrect statement. The hardware in the Sprint and Verizon iPhones is identical. However, Sprint will not activate on their network a phone that was not sold by them. In this case it's a matter of company policy, not technology.
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I don't believe that ESN #s that don't originate from sprint can be activated by sprint. their policy. but metropcs would work.
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I would probably not activate on Metro because their network is ass slow and the Verizon variant does not support their (or T-Mobile's) LTE.
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Galaxy S5 Sprint Spark kills data + voice calls at the same time!

SEE POST 30 TO CHANGE YOUR PRIORITY BAND COVERAGE!
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/...ark-4g-network-problems-phone-calls/index.htm
I asked the store rep if Sprint is working on a fix, but we all know the Sprint reps are usually useless answering these questions (by this I mean at the store they are only trying to make a sell). Her answer was that Sprint is working on a fix that will fix all phones with an OTA. My next question was is this a hardware or software problem which she responded that it is a tower problem. I looked online for an answer but all I could find is that Sprint responded with a weird kinda lame answer that didn't really say if they are working on a fix or not. On Sprint's Forum a rep says they are, but they say a lot of things on the forum that aren't correct also. This seems to be a very frustrating situation actually.
Does it matter to you?
It does to me, but at the same time it isn't a function I use all the time. My only reason that it has helped me, is that it has greatly helped me with work a few or more times.
I am kinda forced to buy a new phone for framily / billing reasons... huge bill without it. I am sorta thinking that I will upgrade the phone but at the same time keep my S4 handy in case I hate the S5. I went to the store today and I have to say it actually surprised me with it's new version of Touchwiz- even though I usually hate Touchwiz.
The only real reason I can see me upgrading is the camera and battery algorithms for power saving.
I call crap!
I've had none of these issues personally, and you can just turn off Spark.
I spoke with sprint today and they said it would be fixed when spark opens up nation wide.
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Spark is crap!!!
The reason you can only use one at a time is the triband antenna in the phone it can only use one signal at a time. It may be fixed once sprint starts using voice over LTE. Plus spark is just a unborn baby right now, not even full deployed. The sprint map says spark coverage is in certain areas on the sprint coverage map on the website. This is not true, the sprak network is 2.5Ghz radio head on the the already existing towers(have not be built or not on-air yet). According to sprint Alcatel-Lucent and Samsung towers are the only companies that are contracted to work on spark networks. Ericsson is looking like they will not be apart of the upgrade. This means there will be 1/3 of the sprint market that will not have spark. Sprint has the the companies split by markets and only two of them have contracts to build in their area.
Here is an article that will cover a good about of that info.
http://www.fiercewireless.com/story...dors-absence-sprints-spark-program/2013-10-30
AcE2DuCe said:
The reason you can only use one at a time is the triband antenna in the phone it can only use one signal at a time. It may be fixed once sprint starts using voice over LTE. Plus spark is just a unborn baby right now, not even full deployed. The sprint map says spark coverage is in certain areas on the sprint coverage map on the website. This is not true, the sprak network is 2.5Ghz radio head on the the already existing towers(have not be built or not on-air yet). According to sprint Alcatel-Lucent and Samsung towers are the only companies that are contracted to work on spark networks. Ericsson is looking like they will not be apart of the upgrade. This means there will be 1/3 of the sprint market that will not have spark. Sprint has the the companies split by markets and only two of them have contracts to build in their area.
Here is an article that will cover a good about of that info.
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NSN will be the contractor for the Areas served by Ericsson for NV 1.0. The reason you can not get SVLTE is because they do not have multiple pathways for 1x and LTE. Here it talks about it. The S5 was not the first phone to have this happen, All tri-Band Phones will most likely be without SVLTE from now on.
S4gru has a few pages explaining it better.
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NSN will be the contractor for the Areas served by Ericsson for NV 1.0. The reason you can not get SVLTE is because they do not have multiple pathways for 1x and LTE. Here it talks about it. The S5 was not the first phone to have this happen, All tri-Band Phones will most likely be without SVLTE from now on.
S4gru has a few pages explaining it better.
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Yes, I forgot to mention it is not only the S5, but all Triband phones. I mostly wanted to put this out here in the open for feedback and other peoples knowledge when contemplating the S5 as an update. I would have been absolutely pissed if I found out after the fact.
It's being discussed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2712240
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They have to enable it on the network side to allow dual channels on a single LTE channel
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pro_granade said:
I've had none of these issues personally, and you can just turn off Spark.
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How do you turn off Spark?
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pastert33 said:
How do you turn off Spark?
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You can't
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You can't
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This is really confusing to me. I thought Atlanta was a spark location...now I have a brand new phone and only see 3g on it
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pastert33 said:
This is really confusing to me. I thought Atlanta was a spark location...now I have a brand new phone and only see 3g on it
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Read this. It will explain it much better.
It's a long read, but well worth your time
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...-due-to-circuit-switched-fallback-technology/
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Now that Sprint has wifi calling it seems like it would be easy to use the same service over LTE. Then 1X voice wouldn't be needed and you could use data+voice simultaneously.
ZerosAndOnes said:
Now that Sprint has wifi calling it seems like it would be easy to use the same service over LTE. Then 1X voice wouldn't be needed and you could use data+voice simultaneously.
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How do we use wifi calling?
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Where can u find what areas/towers has this completed on? I'm really thinking about upgrading but don't want to be with out 4G when I have strong 4G in my area with my S3.
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BubZX said:
Where can u find what areas/towers has this completed on? I'm really thinking about upgrading but don't want to be with out 4G when I have strong 4G in my area with my S3.
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I had 4G on my S3 in New Orleans and I currently have 4G with my S5
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I don't have an S5 yet but I have a Mega with Spark and I have no issues whatsoever.
Well I got the sprint spark friday when it came out and jus like my s4....I still got crappy coverage at my house but suppose to have best signal
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soufdallas said:
Well I got the sprint spark friday when it came out and jus like my s4....I still got crappy coverage at my house but suppose to have best signal
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Having sprint spark doesn't mean your going to have best speeds unless your connected to band 41 or band 26 which is the newest bands. With those speeds you have there i wouldn't be surprise if your connected to band 25 which is the 1900mhz which yea its loaded with majority of sprint customers which is going to give you real slow speeds.
Here some speed test on band 41 i took yesterday morning when i was heading to go play some basketball.
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Having sprint spark doesn't mean your going to have best speeds unless your connected to band 41 or band 26 which is the newest bands. With those speeds you have there i wouldn't be surprise if your connected to band 25 which is the 1900mhz which yea its loaded with majority of sprint customers which is going to give you real slow speeds.
Here some speed test on band 41 i took yesterday morning when i was heading to go play some basketball.View attachment 2686876
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WOW @ THOSE SPEEDS....Fukin incredible.............so im guessing they have to turn on that band 41 for me
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WOW @ THOSE SPEEDS....Fukin incredible.............so im guessing they have to turn on that band 41 for me
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Where do you live? And also what i did was i went into my settings ##data# and made band 41 as my primary. My list is #1 band 41 as primary, #2 is band 25 and #3 is band 26 since its not active here in Miami yet but band 41 is doing great so far as you can see.
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