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In this guide I will show you how to speed up Windows 8 Boot time, disabling unnecessary applications
Whats need
-Ccleaner latest version
-PC with Windows 8 :fingers-crossed:
Step 1
-run the program RUN.exe and then we write MSCONFIG and Enter
Step 2
-On the program go to the Services and click Hide all Microsoft services, now stopped some services that not need example: AMD, Google update, Hamachi, utility from manufacturer,Skype updater
Step 3
-Now go to Task Manager, go to startup and disable the unnecessary apps example:Utorrent, apps from manufacturer, Skype, Java
Step 4
-Go to Ccleaner, click Tools and go to Startup and disable apps from Windows-unnecessary, IE-all, Contex menu-all,Scheduled Task.all
Step 5
-Restart the PC and after off and on PC
Boot time
My boot time:
Before: 38 seconds
After: 8 seconds
energymix said:
My boot time:
Before: 38 seconds
After: 8 seconds
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I find it rather impossible to believe that your windows 8 pc took a whopping 38 seconds to boot.....I may be wrong but I believe that Windows's new system of hibernating the kernel session drastically reduces the boot time to less than 12 seconds.,,38 seconds and 8 seconds sounds like the difference between a windows 7 and windows 8 boot times rather than 2 windows 8 boot times.
mrappbrain said:
I find it rather impossible to believe that your windows 8 pc took a whopping 38 seconds to boot.....I may be wrong but I believe that Windows's new system of hibernating the kernel session drastically reduces the boot time to less than 12 seconds.,,38 seconds and 8 seconds sounds like the difference between a windows 7 and windows 8 boot times rather than 2 windows 8 boot times.
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I really booted 38-45 seconds because the application is very delayed, but sometimes I booted 8-13 seconds
Yeah... your 38 seconds was a cold boot, your 8 seconds was a hibernation boot. In any case, disabling services and the like doesn't really impact the boot time at all. It may change how long after login before the system becomes responsive, and it can definitely change how much system resources are being used in the background, but the only software ways to reduce the boot time (short of something like hibernation boot) would require removing drivers (as each one of those takes a brief moment to initialize) or using bootloader settings (and most of those are more likely to slow boot times down than speed them up).
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Yeah... your 38 seconds was a cold boot, your 8 seconds was a hibernation boot. In any case, disabling services and the like doesn't really impact the boot time at all. It may change how long after login before the system becomes responsive, and it can definitely change how much system resources are being used in the background, but the only software ways to reduce the boot time (short of something like hibernation boot) would require removing drivers (as each one of those takes a brief moment to initialize) or using bootloader settings (and most of those are more likely to slow boot times down than speed them up).
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Exactly.So the name of the guide should be changed to how to impact login times
well even on hibernation boot I need around 30 seconds (but 10 seconds of that contributes to my old BIOS) lol
My new record: 13 seconds. Cold boot. Doesn't get much better than that
Even a layman would know that disabling startup applications can speed up boot time.
Except they don't... Startup apps don't run until the system is already booted, so by definition they cannot impact boot time. On I/O constrained or single-core systems, they make the system essentially unresponsive for some time after bootup, but for something like the Surface RT (4 cores, Flash storage so very wide IO bandwidth) their impact will be minimal.
Hi guys,
I had a question.. My windows 8 used to boot really fast at the beginning on my PC.. But now its taking time.. Almost as much as windows 7 used to take, even during shutdown.. I've actually disabled hibernation function using tune up utilities.. Would this effect booting speed?
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kishankpadiyar said:
Hi guys,
I had a question.. My windows 8 used to boot really fast at the beginning on my PC.. But now its taking time.. Almost as much as windows 7 used to take, even during shutdown.. I've actually disabled hibernation function using tune up utilities.. Would this effect booting speed?
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How many apps have you installed?
karan128 said:
How many apps have you installed?
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not much.. 2-3 games and few common apps like vlc, firefox n all those.. no apps from stores..
Disabling Hibernation will not speed up your boot time - quite the opposite, in fact (Win8 likes to do a "hibernation shutdown" where it restarts the computer then immediately enters hibernate, which makes the subsequent bootup very fast). It will have no impact at all on restart time, either (at least, nothing meaningful - possibly a few milliseconds at worst). Hibernate shutdown does indeed take longer (substantially so), but why do you care?
GoodDayToDie said:
Disabling Hibernation will not speed up your boot time - quite the opposite, in fact (Win8 likes to do a "hibernation shutdown" where it restarts the computer then immediately enters hibernate, which makes the subsequent bootup very fast). It will have no impact at all on restart time, either (at least, nothing meaningful - possibly a few milliseconds at worst). Hibernate shutdown does indeed take longer (substantially so), but why do you care?
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oh okay.. i also wanted to know this.. Sometimes when i keep my system on standby (which i always do), my system wakes up by itself.. then when its not attended for some time it goes to sleep again.. then again in 2 min it repeats.. why is this happening..?
kishankpadiyar said:
oh okay.. i also wanted to know this.. Sometimes when i keep my system on standby (which i always do), my system wakes up by itself.. then when its not attended for some time it goes to sleep again.. then again in 2 min it repeats.. why is this happening..?
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THis may be happening due to scheduled tasks--
Open cmd and execute this code
powercfg /waketimers
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see if any task is scheduled to run while pc is on standby..
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THis may be happening due to scheduled tasks--
Open cmd and execute this code see if any task is scheduled to run while pc is on standby..
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it shows this.. what does it mean..?
PIC: https://www.dropbox.com/s/d3d0cm1ohf5f1hl/cmd.png
kishankpadiyar said:
it shows this.. what does it mean..?
PIC: https://www.dropbox.com/s/d3d0cm1ohf5f1hl/cmd.png
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Go to "scheduled" task manager and disable that service.(whatever it is, I am not able to see it clearly on my mobile)
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Windows 8 loads up extremely fast! And I dont think disabling startup apps and services is not necessary, i came across this post, see if it helps you
http://www.computingunleashed.com/speed-up-windows-8-pro.html
my acer S3 ultrabook was using a Seagate 350GB and the boot was super crapy.... I removed the hdd and slot in a Kingston hyper X3 SSD...
my boot time is 7second flat from zero to hero..
best windows OS ever..
my windows surface RT is slowing down a bit after I loaded so many app on it...
Hi,
I am thinking about encrypting my Nexus 4. I am already using encryption on all my computers but I never tried it on my smartphone, so there are three questions I hope you will answer:
1)
How is battery life affected? Well, fortunately the battery of the Nexus 4 is quite good and I hope encryption won't waste too much.
2)
How is speed affected? My Desktop CPU has AES-NI and there's a SSD, so you don't even recognize system encryption. How is it doing on the Nexus 4? I'm just doing the usual smartphone stuff, means E-Mail, messaging, phoning, checking News &Weather and sometimes playing Doodle Jump. My research on the Internet about encryption performance on Android didn't bring up things I can really rely on so I hope someone here can tell me his experiences.
3)
Which algorithm is used exactly? I know it's dm_crypt and I'm using it on my other computers, too, but on my PC I can choose which algorithm I want and on Android it's given as far as I know.
Regards,
becha
You can't use patter lock to unlock your screen, which is a pian for me right now.
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1. Barely noticeable
2. Same as 1
3. Not sure
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1) I doesn't notice any real impact on battery life. Used the N4 several months before encrypting it.
2) Booting the phone is slowed down, and not only because you have to enter the key for accessing the encrypted drive. But opening apps and doing backup, etc. isn't slowed down. I guess I wouldn't even notice an encrypted devices and so did no one until now, while using my phone.
I was also doubtful before, because in my experience, on a laptop back in the days (5 years ago), the battery drain and performance impact was just to big. But on the other side, I do a lot more disk based tasks on my laptop, than I do on my phone.
in short, after I lost my last phone, I really wanted to give it a try and I didn't regret it until now.
Hoping to hear good answers to question 3.
@HB_Mosh
Well, that's not too bad for me because I don't use Unlock Patterns.
@Vanhoud @memleak
Thanks for sharing your experiences, I'll give encryption a shot.
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@HB_Mosh
Well, that's not too bad for me because I don't use Unlock Patterns.
@Vanhoud @memleak
Thanks for sharing your experiences, I'll give encryption a shot.
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can you please tell us your experiences, i was thinking about it, i guess you can CWM, encrypt then restore backup if you want to revert without starting all over
Yesterday I encrypted my Nexus 4, it took around an half an hour. Until now (well, one day...) I didn't discover any problems apart from the fact, that my Nexus 4 did a simple restart for the first time when trying to encrypt it. Everything went fine when trying the second time. The phone itself runs fluent, so up to now I didn't see any performance problems.
Now I can't backup my ROM - any suggestions? Perhaps Recovery can mount to an external USB storage or something? What a pain! You can't un-encrypt either, and there's no way to mount encrypted storage in Recovery I wanted to backup before installing privacy protection in case it borked my phone.
Another encryption question...
Don't mean to hijack this thread, but can anyone tell me if OTA updates will still work on a stock, unrooted N4 that's been encrypted?
Can't find a definitive answer - some have had success on other devices and others haven't.
I don't see why turning on stock encryption on a stock unmodified device would make any difference?
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DroidBois said:
I don't see why turning on stock encryption on a stock unmodified device would make any difference?
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I wasn't sure why / if this would make a difference either but as I said, I can't find a definitive answer. Some people say that you need to factory reset in order to remove the encryption before you can apply an OTA update, but others say different.
I'd be interested to know if the OTA would work after simply asking you for your encryption PIN on reboot, or if the encryption would prevent the OTA being applied because of the encrypted storage. Does anyone have any experience of this?
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Now I can't backup my ROM - any suggestions? Perhaps Recovery can mount to an external USB storage or something? What a pain! You can't un-encrypt either, and there's no way to mount encrypted storage in Recovery I wanted to backup before installing privacy protection in case it borked my phone.
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You have to use TWRP Recovery, which is able to mount your encrypted internal storage.
No way.. I thought I'd tried every option I could think of in TWRP but I'll take a closer look.
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If you start TWRP, it should automatically ask for your passphrase to read the encrypted internal storage. Latest version of TWRP works for me, older ones had bugs regarding to encrypted devices.
Hi all,
I bought a note 3 LTE (9005) last wednesday in Paris. As usual when I change android phones, I put on the new one all the stuff from the old one. So before even putting the sdcard in it, I put in the Note 3 download directory some pdfs (a hundred of pdfs, each < 20Mb), and other photos (<300Mb in total) coming from the sames places on my previous Note 2.
Then I spotted that my battery was discharging very very quickly, even after the three/four complete charge complete discharge of the battery. In battery settings I then saw that a process called "index service" was using a lot of the battery, in permanence between 32% and 50%.
Then I installed the "CPU Memory Monitor" from the play, which showed to me that the process in question, com.samsung.indexservice.service.IndexService, was in permanence using not less than 186% of cpu...
As soon as I erased all files transfered, all traces of com.samsung.indexservice.service.IndexService disappeared...
I am quite puzzled. I know what com.samsung.indexservice.service.IndexService is in charge of : indexing all files present of the phone, but I don't understand why I have never saw its analogue on 4.1.2 bothering me like that on my previous Note 2 or on my previous S3.
By the way : i put also a sd card, just to see, and the phenomenon occured again, but was even worse, dued to the size of my sandisk micro sd card (64Gb) and the fact that it was a class 6. (By the way, this same micro sd card worked flawlessly with my note 2...)
Even worse : I didn't wait to post on xda to act : I went this afternoon to exchange the note 3 for an other one, and guess what, the same problem occurs... If I can't do something as basic as putting pdfs on the Note 3 without making the file system indexing service crazy, what could I do instead of going for a refund to the samsung store ?...
Any advice ?...
Thx a lot,
Kind Regards,
MEF
PS : specs of the phone are :
Model number : SM-N9005
Android OS version : 4.3
Baseband version : N9005XXUBMI6
Kernel version : 3.4.0-1628120
Build number : JSS15J.N9005XXUBMI7
SELinux status : enforcing
same issue with index service.
is a samsung service needed by my file app (it has a new search function) and i think is needed by s-finder too.
that service writes files in a folder in android/data.
after lot of time (3 hours in my case) service finished indexing and now all is ok.
media service eats cpu too in some occasion...
i have a samsung sd card 64 gb class 10 but the service is active also if you write many files on your internal sd card.
i'm waiting for a method to root without lose the warranty (probably not possible with samsung knox) then I will try to disable it ... or we need to wait some samsung optimization with next firmware
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Thx for your prompt answer !
Oh okay, so you would basically advise the following things (before a solution passing by rooting would be available) : do the 3 cycles discharge charge to set up the battery correctly, and then put all files on the phone, put the sd card in it, plug the phone to its charger, and wait for the indexing service to finish its work ? If so, after it has finished, how many % of battery does it use in baterry setting on your note 3 pls ? (So that I could have at least one benchmark...)
Speaking of rooting : I didn't know that rooting was already available for note 3 (I don't really care about knox & warranty if it is sure that rooting with a custom rom would solve this indexservice problem...), didn't saw any rom except the test roms from beginning of september, but that's another question.
MEF
soloilmeglio said:
same issue with index service.
is a samsung service needed by my file app (it has a new search function) and i think is needed by s-finder too.
that service writes files in a folder in android/data.
after lot of time (3 hours in my case) service finished indexing and now all is ok.
media service eats cpu too in some occasion...
i have a samsung sd card 64 gb class 10 but the service is active also if you write many files on your internal sd card.
i'm waiting for a method to root without lose the warranty (probably not possible with samsung knox) then I will try to disable it ... or we need to wait some samsung optimization with next firmware
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MisesEnForce said:
Thx for your prompt answer !
Oh okay, so you would basically advise the following things (before a solution passing by rooting would be available) : do the 3 cycles discharge charge to set up the battery correctly, and then put all files on the phone, put the sd card in it, plug the phone to its charger, and wait for the indexing service to finish its work ? If so, after it has finished, how many % of battery does it use in baterry setting on your note 3 pls ? (So that I could have at least one benchmark...)
Speaking of rooting : I didn't know that rooting was already available for note 3 (I don't really care about knox & warranty if it is sure that rooting with a custom rom would solve this indexservice problem...), didn't saw any rom except the test roms from beginning of september, but that's another question.
MEF
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when the Note 3 is in stand-by, the indexservice process is in stand-by.
Indexservice has little impact on the battery.
If the file on scan by indexservice is > 200Mb, indexservice abnormal stop
no problems with rooting but warranty will be void (at the moment)
I'm waiting chainfire (the most famous android dev in the world) if he can find a solution... if not I will provide my custom rom (called X-Note, see n7100 and n5100 forum) with finder and related services disabled (anyway hoping in a samsung fix)
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M3r71n0 said:
when the Note 3 is in stand-by, the indexservice process is in stand-by.
Indexservice has little impact on the battery.
If the file on scan by indexservice is > 200Mb, indexservice abnormal stop
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The cap is 200Mb per file, or on the whole set of files ?... Because I don't have no file of that size, but I have the problem nevertheless.
I never did this, but is it possible the debug this indexservice process somehow, I would like to understand how it works ?
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MisesEnForce said:
The cap is 200Mb per file, or on the whole set of files ?... Because I don't have no file of that size, but I have the problem nevertheless.
I never did this, but is it possible the debug this indexservice process somehow, I would like to understand how it works ?
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200Mb per file.
Maybe is also locked for some other reason
soloilmeglio said:
no problems with rooting but warranty will be void (at the moment)
I'm waiting chainfire (the most famous android dev in the world) if he can find a solution... if not I will provide my custom rom (called X-Note, see n7100 and n5100 forum) with finder and related services disabled (anyway hoping in a samsung fix)
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Oh ok, I didn't even knew that rooting was solved already, because I thought official roms weren't yet out. (If you could redirect me to a right place for this (rooting) in pm, I'd be grateful !)
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MisesEnForce said:
Oh ok, I didn't even knew that rooting was solved already, because I thought official roms weren't yet out. (If you could redirect me to a right place for this (rooting) in pm, I'd be grateful !)
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Look in Development section of this forum..
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M3r71n0 said:
when the Note 3 is in stand-by, the indexservice process is in stand-by.
Indexservice has little impact on the battery.
If the file on scan by indexservice is > 200Mb, indexservice abnormal stop
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I have also the indexing issue. After rebooting the phone second time the indexing service started to eat my battery. Battery has come down 20% in one hour..
It also crashes approx every minute when phone is not in standby. I have 64gb microsdxc from Sandisk with all my camera shots, pdfs, videos etc.
Just before the service crashes the phone freezes for 3 to 5 seconds. Pretty annoying feature. Hopefully there will fix soon.
M3r71n0. Where did you found out that indexing will crash when file to be scanned is larger than 200Mb?
Note 3 SM-9005
I had the same issue after the first setup. Phone was didcharging even while charger is plugged in. Reseting and configuring from scratch solved the issue for me.
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I had the same issue after the first setup. Phone was didcharging even while charger is plugged in. Reseting and configuring from scratch solved the issue for me.
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What do you mean by resetting and configuring from scratch ? You meant you passed through recovery mode, wiped out everything, rebooted and reconfigured the phone from scratch ? (Cause I did this and this did not solve the issue for me.) How just factory reset from settings ? Thx
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pamatika said:
I have also the indexing issue. After rebooting the phone second time the indexing service started to eat my battery. Battery has come down 20% in one hour..
It also crashes approx every minute when phone is not in standby. I have 64gb microsdxc from Sandisk with all my camera shots, pdfs, videos etc.
Just before the service crashes the phone freezes for 3 to 5 seconds. Pretty annoying feature. Hopefully there will fix soon.
M3r71n0. Where did you found out that indexing will crash when file to be scanned is larger than 200Mb?
Note 3 SM-9005
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Never had this problem with the battery.
The crash is caused by file >200Mb and other unknown reasons.
I dropped a pdf file ( from 220Mb to 190Mb) and the problem is solved.
The freezes for 3 to 5 seconds is "normal" when indexservice stopped.
Try checking the names and file integrity.
Remove the . in names of the file (not for extension), the problem also may be caused to this.
I have also removed ertain files with strange names, file type html, chm files, exe files, etc..
The link with files> 200Mb was suggested to me on a Japanese forum.
MisesEnForce said:
What do you mean by resetting and configuring from scratch ? You meant you passed through recovery mode, wiped out everything, rebooted and reconfigured the phone from scratch ? (Cause I did this and this did not solve the issue for me.) How just factory reset from settings ? Thx
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Just a factory reset from the settings saved me. Two days with no indexing issue so far.
I have same problem!
I did not find any file >200MB (I had one MP4 but deleted it).
Because it came every view minutes I freezed now S Finder and the service itself with Titanium Backup and will see if it still appears!
p.s.: Factory reset would cost me another day to setup everything again.
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I have same problem!
I did not find any file >200MB (I had one MP4 but deleted it).
Because it came every view minutes I freezed now S Finder and the service itself with Titanium Backup and will see if it still appears!
p.s.: Factory reset would cost me another day to setup everything again.
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delete ALL files in internal and external sd, check, then add files you need time by time checking the service
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Same happened to me for about four hours... and now all is fine ..
The indexing service reminded me of windows vista where the search gave results from within PDF files. i used to leave the computer ON all night and even sometime more than a day ( Gigs of books ) but then the benefit is fast search ..
so if i were you , I would wait a few days ( if replacement warranty allows it ) and then reep the benefits of the indexed search,
fscherz said:
I have same problem!
I did not find any file >200MB (I had one MP4 but deleted it).
Because it came every view minutes I freezed now S Finder and the service itself with Titanium Backup and will see if it still appears!
p.s.: Factory reset would cost me another day to setup everything again.
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Try checking the names and file integrity.
Remove the . in names of the file (not for extension), the problem also may be caused to this.
I have also removed ertain files with strange names, file type html, chm files, exe files, etc..
M3r71n0 said:
Try checking the names and file integrity.
Remove the . in names of the file (not for extension), the problem also may be caused to this.
I have also removed ertain files with strange names, file type html, chm files, exe files, etc..
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This feature is absolute bs. I have a 64gb microsd card full of files I transferred from my Note II and I can't even make a phone call without the phone stuttering and the index service causing my phone to stutter once every 15 seconds.
Frigging samsung and their crappy bloat.
I found out that diactivating Air Commande in Control Tab in Settings for few minutes allows IndexService to finish indexing and solved the problem for me. Please try and confirm
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I was on oreo
I have backup so data not an issue thankfully.
Was using Nitrogen rom with its stock kernel but rom is not the issue since literally no one else is affected, im positive its my phone. Possibly hardware related.
Short version: As you can tell from the title. My phone is freezing randomly while flashing, or sometimes on booting it just stays at google logo. After freezing for 20 seconds and the phone getting hot, the screen goes off. It does not however bootloop.
It does not power off when the screen goes off in the normal sense either since if i attach a charger nothing shows, no battery icon, but i know it charges because then if i go into bootloader and then twrp back again, battery is increased. but if no charger, the screen stays off and battery is not decreased, like a power off :/ what is wrong?!
Full disclosure: i had my cpu(motherboard) repaired 2 weeks ago when it just dropped dead after freezing and me trying to reboot it, which it never did.(that was aquarius rom)
After repair i flashed nitrogen and all went fine until it happened yesterday too but thankfully i could access bootloader and occasionaly twrp. i somehow (after the 100th time of it finally not freezing in flashing or splash screen) managed to clean flash my rom again and it booted.
All went good for a day then suddenly it froze today and when i hard rebooted it, it never went past the google logo again, and screen turns off, which is where i am now. But now i can access twrp most of the time without it freezing now.
What ive done so far: Since this time it actually opens twrp 90% of the time unlike yesterday and freezes only few times, ive managed to flash a few different rom versions and even tried going back to nougat. ALL leading to -> Google logo 20 seconds, screen off.
I'm in the process of downloading factory images and OTAs, which will take 6 hours since i have a slow connection. but i dont know which i should flash (ill be using Heisenbergs guide). Which is a better option at succeding?
what i think is wrong: probably the flashing takes a toll on the cpu and it just freezes n gets hot n shuts off. NO bootloop. Ive attached logs from ''copy log'' option in twrp, i dont know if that will help.
Can it be a hardware issue? Anything else i can do besides factory images/OTA? Should i look into disabling my big cores?
I'd highly appreciate some technical expertise and advice as to how i should procees from now.
Thank u for taking the time to read it!
Lord. Tech said:
.... Can it be a hardware issue? Anything else i can do besides factory images/OTA? Should i look into disabling my big cores? I'd highly appreciate some technical expertise and advice as to how i should procees from now. Thank u for taking the time to read it!
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Probably a hardware issue related to the motherboard, but you should treat it as a bootloop and follow the workaround you mentioned. If that solves your issue then you will know it is hardware for sure. I guess you don't have a warranty on the motherboard because you didn't mention that route. If you do get it running on small cores, run Accubattery (if you haven't already) and get an estimate of remaining capacity of the battery. If you do send it back for 2nd repair, replace the battery at the same time. Why not? It's only $20 and there would be no labor.
v12xke said:
Probably a hardware issue related to the motherboard, but you should treat it as a bootloop and follow the workaround you mentioned. If that solves your issue then you will know it is hardware for sure. I guess you don't have a warranty on the motherboard because you didn't mention that route. If you do get it running on small cores, run Accubattery (if you haven't already) and get an estimate of remaining capacity of the battery. If you do send it back for 2nd repair, replace the battery at the same time. Why not? It's only $20 and there would be no labor.
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Yes im out of warranty sadly. Im going to try flashing stock images, if that doesnt work then will look into turning off my big cores. Any advice on if full OTA images would be better than flashing Factory images?
i agree, i shoulve gotten it replaced the first time i had it fixed, regretted that as soon as i got it back. accubattery showed 60% left, the rest seems degraded.
i really hope something works. I'm starting to get fedup of this device i loved so much n still do surprisingly! i hate that google did this to us, that too out of all the devices on the last and most anticipated 'nexus' of all time! Embarassing end to the series.
Lord. Tech said:
Yes im out of warranty sadly. Im going to try flashing stock images, if that doesnt work then will look into turning off my big cores. Any advice on if full OTA images would be better than flashing Factory images i agree, i shoulve gotten it replaced the first time i had it fixed, regretted that as soon as i got it back. accubattery showed 60% left, the rest seems degraded.
i really hope something works. I'm starting to get fedup of this device i loved so much n still do surprisingly! i hate that google did this to us, that too out of all the devices on the last and most anticipated 'nexus' of all time! Embarassing end to the series.
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Flash full images because OTA's don't contain the full partition image. Just set up fastboot on your PC and follow Google's instructions on the page you d/l the images from. Due to using several custom ROMs, I would recommend you fastboot format Boot, System and Userdata before flashing, then use Google's flash-all.bat script. Battery: at 60% your battery is beyond toast and may well be contributing to your problem. You need a new battery, period. Good luck. :good:
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Flash full images because OTA's don't contain the full partition image. Just set up fastboot on your PC and follow Google's instructions on the page you d/l the images from. Due to using several custom ROMs, I would recommend you fastboot format Boot, System and Userdata before flashing, then use Google's flash-all.bat script. Battery: at 60% your battery is beyond toast and may well be contributing to your problem. You need a new battery, period. Good luck. :good:
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Thank u for the how-to advice! i was a little confused with the particulars, Glad u cleared it up for me. The images are still downloading, damn the slow connection, so it'll be while before i know if it works, i'll update with the results soon.
Yes, ur spot on. i barely got 2.5 hours SOT, usually just 1.5 hours! if i can get my phone running again, im ordering a battery tomorrow as well!
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Thank u for the how-to advice! i was a little confused with the particulars, Glad u cleared it up for me. The images are still downloading, damn the slow connection, so it'll be while before i know if it works, i'll update with the results soon. Yes, ur spot on. i barely got 2.5 hours SOT, usually just 1.5 hours! if i can get my phone running again, im ordering a battery tomorrow as well!
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Just be sure you're clear on fastboot formatting Boot, System and Userdata. Make sure they all finish without errors. If any errors, capture the text. Important. Problem with the battery (for you) is getting a quality one. Lots of junk out there and you are located in BFE.
fastboot format boot
fastboot format system
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Just be sure you're clear on fastboot formatting Boot, System and Userdata. Make sure they all finish without errors. If any errors, capture the text. Important. Problem with the battery (for you) is getting a quality one. Lots of junk out there and you are located in BFE.
fastboot format boot
fastboot format system
fastboot format userdata
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LOL i agree, cant even get a decent internet connection out here let alone battery spare parts to a back-closed phone 95% people haven't even heard of, including the 3 repair shops i took it to the first time!! i had to google it and show them pics and videos on how to open it imagine. But since it was dead weight at the time, that botched joke surgery of my phone was still my best hope haha.
well, in other news, nothing worked i guess the phone is toast now. it just keeps freezing no matter what, stock images, 4 cores off, modified boot.img, everything. I got it in Pheonix Arizona from best buy 2 years ago when they had the 50$ off on the gold version. so cant even freaking RMA it to google! Gonna send it in for repair as a last resort, though i dont know what they can do at this point, repair cpu?
Maybe i should start looking into replacements perhaps the OP3T.... damn this is depressing.
Thanks for the help, i guess u win some, u lose some...
Hey guys,
Since this is the last major update for our phones, I thought it will be a good idea to have a review discussion as to how Google left 2xl lines with Android 11 (I hope there is one update somewhere in future to iron out any bugs)
So! How is your phone's
1) Performance
2) Battery life
3) Sound (speaker/Bluetooth)
4) Ram management
5) Misc/Any bugs?
Let's have a discussion!
Heres my review:
Wait, its not worth it, yet
Thanks for your time
I was on it for about an hour before i noticed so many apps etc wouldnt work, and really it shouldnt have been so much of a difference that would result in so much breakage...
73sydney said:
Heres my review:
Wait, its not worth it, yet
Thanks for your time
I was on it for about an hour before i noticed so many apps etc wouldnt work, and really it shouldnt have been so much of a difference that would result in so much breakage...
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I'm curious.. What's broke? I've been on 11 since the first beta sign-up started and didn't experience any major problems with my day to day usage. It's about the same on battery and performance as it was on 10.
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73sydney said:
Heres my review:
Wait, its not worth it, yet
Thanks for your time
I was on it for about an hour before i noticed so many apps etc wouldnt work, and really it shouldnt have been so much of a difference that would result in so much breakage...
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Wow that's strange. Really curious as to what is broke for you? Are those Google apps or others?
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I'm curious.. What's broke? I've been on 11 since the first beta sign-up started and didn't experience any major problems with my day to day usage. It's about the same on battery and performance as it was on 10.
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Nice! I feel the smoothness has increased a bit as i found Android 11 was more smooth than 10 right from the beta phase. Although, I'm kind of disappointed in the whole. Chat bubbles doesn't seem to work and conversation is left to developers to adapt.
100rabh7791 said:
Nice! I feel the smoothness has increased a bit as i found Android 11 was more smooth than 10 right from the beta phase. Although, I'm kind of disappointed in the whole. Chat bubbles doesn't seem to work and conversation is left to developers to adapt.
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Chat bubbles work for the Google messages app for me. I even set it so all my contacts bubble Instead of having to set each one to bubble
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Chat bubbles work for the Google messages app for me. I even set it so all my contacts bubble Instead of having to set each one to bubble
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Unfortunately my usage of messages is very limited. I use WhatsApp mainly for communication and it is not yet working. Although, high priority conversation shows pictures in notification which is a good addition i feel.
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I'm curious.. What's broke? I've been on 11 since the first beta sign-up started and didn't experience any major problems with my day to day usage. It's about the same on battery and performance as it was on 10.
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Wow that's strange. Really curious as to what is broke for you? Are those Google apps or others?
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For one Migrate, the backup app i use and have for eons, wont restore apps/app data properly, so i would literally have to reinstall everything from scratch. Anyone want to do that for 113 apps? Considering there really isnt that much of a leap under the hood, why are apps, and even simple apps like Migrate...which uses simple scripts to restore, failing.....
There were at least 4 core apps i use that wouldnt work out of the gates. It took clearing the data for them sometimes twice to get them to work. It just turned into a lot of work. Rolled back to 10 and Migrate seamlessly worked as did every app i use.
When you can downgrade and have everything working, whats your takeaway? The upgraded OS isnt up to it yet.
Ill wait for a point release...
Also the repeated prompts to complete setup 3 times, when id already done it, got on my nerves..again, never happened on 10
It did not feel complate, felt rushed, despite however many betas they ran
Sticking with 10, and folks im usually a bleeding edger...i dont give a rats about battery and perfomance if my apps dont work...
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For one Migrate, the backup app i use and have for eons, wont restore apps/app data properly, so i would literally have to reinstall everything from scratch. Anyone want to do that for 113 apps? Considering there really isnt that much of a leap under the hood, why are apps, and even simple apps like Migrate...which uses simple scripts to restore, failing.....
There were at least 4 core apps i use that wouldnt work out of the gates. It took clearing the data for them sometimes twice to get them to work. It just turned into a lot of work. Rolled back to 10 and Migrate seamlessly worked as did every app i use.
When you can downgrade and have everything working, whats your takeaway? The upgraded OS isnt up to it yet.
Ill wait for a point release...
Also the repeated prompts to complete setup 3 times, when id already done it, got on my nerves..again, never happened on 10
It did not feel complate, felt rushed, despite however many betas they ran
Sticking with 10, and folks im usually a bleeding edger...i dont give a rats about battery and perfomance if my apps dont work...
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Far different experience than I am having.. I even did a fresh install, and Google restored all 180 of my apps and put all my screens back how I had them. No aftermarket backup app needed. All I had to do was make sure my account synced before I wiped.
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Far different experience than I am having.. I even did a fresh install, and Google restored all 180 of my apps and put all my screens back how I had them. No aftermarket backup app needed. All I had to do was make sure my account synced before I wiped.
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1) I always clean flash, full wipe. I never dirty flash.....
2) Never used Google for backup, and never will, for starters it doesnt back up data from all apps, only apps that specifically have google backup capability built in - people do not realise that devs have cook that in. Telling people to just use google backup just garauntees theyre going to cry when they realise most of their apps do not backup app data.
So again, my issues with 11 stand
73sydney said:
For one Migrate, the backup app i use and have for eons, wont restore apps/app data properly, so i would literally have to reinstall everything from scratch. Anyone want to do that for 113 apps? Considering there really isnt that much of a leap under the hood, why are apps, and even simple apps like Migrate...which uses simple scripts to restore, failing.....
There were at least 4 core apps i use that wouldnt work out of the gates. It took clearing the data for them sometimes twice to get them to work. It just turned into a lot of work. Rolled back to 10 and Migrate seamlessly worked as did every app i use.
When you can downgrade and have everything working, whats your takeaway? The upgraded OS isnt up to it yet.
Ill wait for a point release...
Also the repeated prompts to complete setup 3 times, when id already done it, got on my nerves..again, never happened on 10
It did not feel complate, felt rushed, despite however many betas they ran
Sticking with 10, and folks im usually a bleeding edger...i dont give a rats about battery and perfomance if my apps dont work...
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Oh well, I understand your frustration. True, Android 11 is a half baked update. I don't think apart from 2-3 features there is anything. I can consider this a feature drop than a full os upgrade.
Agreed about the Google backup it screwed my backup as well and although I didn't roll back to 10, it was quite frustrating.
Maybe you can update after the last bug update which probably will happen in December.
I'm just hoping that Google don't just stop with the security patches yet
My device never felt so complete and smooth.
Stock rooted 10 -> boot twrp.img -> dirty flash 11 ota.zip -> wipe -> first boot.
Boot twrp.img -> flash debug magic.zip, reboot.
Browse and install canary magic apk.
Only thing I think to notice is the sound seems somewhat distorted/overloaded somewhat, sometimes.
Never in calls.
Battery life and responsiveness improved. It feels less rough on the edges.
Mother_Teresa said:
My device never felt so complete and smooth.
Stock rooted 10 -> boot twrp.img -> dirty flash 11 ota.zip -> wipe -> first boot.
Boot twrp.img -> flash debug magic.zip, reboot.
Browse and install canary magic apk.
Only thing I think to notice is the sound seems somewhat distorted/overloaded somewhat, sometimes.
Never in calls.
Battery life and responsiveness improved. It feels less rough on the edges.
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I actually felt the sound quality improved. Yes it's more responsive. I'm still testing out the battery life can't say for sure if it improved much.
I'm liking that the keyboard is so smooth now, pops up smoothly
Came from a stock rooted 10 with only TWRP and Magisk installed, was starting to notice some hiccups and slow downs in usage. Decided to clean install which I hadn't done in a while to hopefully regain some performance as well as storage. Phone feels smooth again, haven't noticed any loss of performance or stability. Can confirm that audio seems a bit tuned up, having to set all the volume sliders a bit lower.
My real comments on the process is also more with the Google backup/restore. Since I had dirty flashed basically everything throughout A10 I didn't know what to expect. While it reinstalled all the apps, resetup all the home screens with apps/widgets, wifi passwords, and saved my wallpaper. It didn't save my custom notification/ringtone sounds, bluetooth devices, notification settings (specifically which apps were silenced), and most frustratingly my tasker profiles (my fault for not remembering to back them up). Fortunately, A11 has a new rules section in the settings that can change ringer state based off wifi which is what 3/4 of my profiles did. I have only tested the feature at home so far but it worked great. Had the phone on vibrate, setup a profile that when connecting to home wifi to turn the ringer on... had it connect to wifi and it immediately turned off vibrate and turned it back on when I disconnected wifi. Should do the same thing for work, just wish it had a bluetooth state so I could make a rule for the car.
All in all I'm glad I upgraded early, even though I didn't realize ahead of time the issues with canary magisk and TWRP installed. First attempt worked great, cleaned flashed and immediately installed TWRP, setup the phone/apps, then rebooted to install magisk. This was the bootloop but as soon as I read here the two weren't compatible I was able to reflash the update to remove bootloop. Booted to TWRP to install canary magisk and Elemental Kernel and it's working perfectly so far.
Storage issue
After Android 11 update can't access android/data folder. 3rd party file managers shows access denied. Few games can't be run due to restricted storage access. Does anyone know what's wrong. Can I root Android 11 and downgrade to Android 10. If yes any guidance available online. My Pixel 2 XL is not rooted yet.
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After Android 11 update can't access android/data folder. 3rd party file managers shows access denied. Few games can't be run due to restricted storage access. Does anyone know what's wrong. Can I root Android 11 and downgrade to Android 10. If yes any guidance available online. My Pixel 2 XL is not rooted yet.
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Your data folder was encrypted when using the previous version.
How did you upgrade?
If the bootloader is unlocked you could try booting a twrp.img to see if you can access /data.
Disable any pin you may be using before trying and if twrp asks for a password you could try default_password
Made any backups?
If the encryption key is lost you should just reformat the partitions to make the storage available again.
Maybe you can still recover the key to unlock the data if you didn't wipe it.
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Your data folder was encrypted when using the previous version.
How did you upgrade?
If the bootloader is unlocked you could try booting a twrp.img to see if you can access /data.
Disable any pin you may be using before trying and if twrp asks for a password you could try default_password
Made any backups?
If the encryption key is lost you should just reformat the partitions to make the storage available again.
Maybe you can still recover the key to unlock the data if you didn't wipe it.
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Bootloader is not unlocked yet.
I updated ota. Last night got it in notification, 1.4gb update.
I did backup all data.
In Android 10 I was able to access data folder. Now data & obb folders shows empty.
Can I still unlock bootloader?
Initially I dirtyflashed what caused a show phone.
Afterwards I did a clean install and it was done, but I went back to Bliss what ist the best right now