Hi all,
I bought a note 3 LTE (9005) last wednesday in Paris. As usual when I change android phones, I put on the new one all the stuff from the old one. So before even putting the sdcard in it, I put in the Note 3 download directory some pdfs (a hundred of pdfs, each < 20Mb), and other photos (<300Mb in total) coming from the sames places on my previous Note 2.
Then I spotted that my battery was discharging very very quickly, even after the three/four complete charge complete discharge of the battery. In battery settings I then saw that a process called "index service" was using a lot of the battery, in permanence between 32% and 50%.
Then I installed the "CPU Memory Monitor" from the play, which showed to me that the process in question, com.samsung.indexservice.service.IndexService, was in permanence using not less than 186% of cpu...
As soon as I erased all files transfered, all traces of com.samsung.indexservice.service.IndexService disappeared...
I am quite puzzled. I know what com.samsung.indexservice.service.IndexService is in charge of : indexing all files present of the phone, but I don't understand why I have never saw its analogue on 4.1.2 bothering me like that on my previous Note 2 or on my previous S3.
By the way : i put also a sd card, just to see, and the phenomenon occured again, but was even worse, dued to the size of my sandisk micro sd card (64Gb) and the fact that it was a class 6. (By the way, this same micro sd card worked flawlessly with my note 2...)
Even worse : I didn't wait to post on xda to act : I went this afternoon to exchange the note 3 for an other one, and guess what, the same problem occurs... If I can't do something as basic as putting pdfs on the Note 3 without making the file system indexing service crazy, what could I do instead of going for a refund to the samsung store ?...
Any advice ?...
Thx a lot,
Kind Regards,
MEF
PS : specs of the phone are :
Model number : SM-N9005
Android OS version : 4.3
Baseband version : N9005XXUBMI6
Kernel version : 3.4.0-1628120
Build number : JSS15J.N9005XXUBMI7
SELinux status : enforcing
same issue with index service.
is a samsung service needed by my file app (it has a new search function) and i think is needed by s-finder too.
that service writes files in a folder in android/data.
after lot of time (3 hours in my case) service finished indexing and now all is ok.
media service eats cpu too in some occasion...
i have a samsung sd card 64 gb class 10 but the service is active also if you write many files on your internal sd card.
i'm waiting for a method to root without lose the warranty (probably not possible with samsung knox) then I will try to disable it ... or we need to wait some samsung optimization with next firmware
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Thx for your prompt answer !
Oh okay, so you would basically advise the following things (before a solution passing by rooting would be available) : do the 3 cycles discharge charge to set up the battery correctly, and then put all files on the phone, put the sd card in it, plug the phone to its charger, and wait for the indexing service to finish its work ? If so, after it has finished, how many % of battery does it use in baterry setting on your note 3 pls ? (So that I could have at least one benchmark...)
Speaking of rooting : I didn't know that rooting was already available for note 3 (I don't really care about knox & warranty if it is sure that rooting with a custom rom would solve this indexservice problem...), didn't saw any rom except the test roms from beginning of september, but that's another question.
MEF
soloilmeglio said:
same issue with index service.
is a samsung service needed by my file app (it has a new search function) and i think is needed by s-finder too.
that service writes files in a folder in android/data.
after lot of time (3 hours in my case) service finished indexing and now all is ok.
media service eats cpu too in some occasion...
i have a samsung sd card 64 gb class 10 but the service is active also if you write many files on your internal sd card.
i'm waiting for a method to root without lose the warranty (probably not possible with samsung knox) then I will try to disable it ... or we need to wait some samsung optimization with next firmware
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MisesEnForce said:
Thx for your prompt answer !
Oh okay, so you would basically advise the following things (before a solution passing by rooting would be available) : do the 3 cycles discharge charge to set up the battery correctly, and then put all files on the phone, put the sd card in it, plug the phone to its charger, and wait for the indexing service to finish its work ? If so, after it has finished, how many % of battery does it use in baterry setting on your note 3 pls ? (So that I could have at least one benchmark...)
Speaking of rooting : I didn't know that rooting was already available for note 3 (I don't really care about knox & warranty if it is sure that rooting with a custom rom would solve this indexservice problem...), didn't saw any rom except the test roms from beginning of september, but that's another question.
MEF
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when the Note 3 is in stand-by, the indexservice process is in stand-by.
Indexservice has little impact on the battery.
If the file on scan by indexservice is > 200Mb, indexservice abnormal stop
no problems with rooting but warranty will be void (at the moment)
I'm waiting chainfire (the most famous android dev in the world) if he can find a solution... if not I will provide my custom rom (called X-Note, see n7100 and n5100 forum) with finder and related services disabled (anyway hoping in a samsung fix)
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M3r71n0 said:
when the Note 3 is in stand-by, the indexservice process is in stand-by.
Indexservice has little impact on the battery.
If the file on scan by indexservice is > 200Mb, indexservice abnormal stop
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The cap is 200Mb per file, or on the whole set of files ?... Because I don't have no file of that size, but I have the problem nevertheless.
I never did this, but is it possible the debug this indexservice process somehow, I would like to understand how it works ?
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MisesEnForce said:
The cap is 200Mb per file, or on the whole set of files ?... Because I don't have no file of that size, but I have the problem nevertheless.
I never did this, but is it possible the debug this indexservice process somehow, I would like to understand how it works ?
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200Mb per file.
Maybe is also locked for some other reason
soloilmeglio said:
no problems with rooting but warranty will be void (at the moment)
I'm waiting chainfire (the most famous android dev in the world) if he can find a solution... if not I will provide my custom rom (called X-Note, see n7100 and n5100 forum) with finder and related services disabled (anyway hoping in a samsung fix)
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Oh ok, I didn't even knew that rooting was solved already, because I thought official roms weren't yet out. (If you could redirect me to a right place for this (rooting) in pm, I'd be grateful !)
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MisesEnForce said:
Oh ok, I didn't even knew that rooting was solved already, because I thought official roms weren't yet out. (If you could redirect me to a right place for this (rooting) in pm, I'd be grateful !)
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Look in Development section of this forum..
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M3r71n0 said:
when the Note 3 is in stand-by, the indexservice process is in stand-by.
Indexservice has little impact on the battery.
If the file on scan by indexservice is > 200Mb, indexservice abnormal stop
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I have also the indexing issue. After rebooting the phone second time the indexing service started to eat my battery. Battery has come down 20% in one hour..
It also crashes approx every minute when phone is not in standby. I have 64gb microsdxc from Sandisk with all my camera shots, pdfs, videos etc.
Just before the service crashes the phone freezes for 3 to 5 seconds. Pretty annoying feature. Hopefully there will fix soon.
M3r71n0. Where did you found out that indexing will crash when file to be scanned is larger than 200Mb?
Note 3 SM-9005
I had the same issue after the first setup. Phone was didcharging even while charger is plugged in. Reseting and configuring from scratch solved the issue for me.
googhalava said:
I had the same issue after the first setup. Phone was didcharging even while charger is plugged in. Reseting and configuring from scratch solved the issue for me.
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What do you mean by resetting and configuring from scratch ? You meant you passed through recovery mode, wiped out everything, rebooted and reconfigured the phone from scratch ? (Cause I did this and this did not solve the issue for me.) How just factory reset from settings ? Thx
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pamatika said:
I have also the indexing issue. After rebooting the phone second time the indexing service started to eat my battery. Battery has come down 20% in one hour..
It also crashes approx every minute when phone is not in standby. I have 64gb microsdxc from Sandisk with all my camera shots, pdfs, videos etc.
Just before the service crashes the phone freezes for 3 to 5 seconds. Pretty annoying feature. Hopefully there will fix soon.
M3r71n0. Where did you found out that indexing will crash when file to be scanned is larger than 200Mb?
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Never had this problem with the battery.
The crash is caused by file >200Mb and other unknown reasons.
I dropped a pdf file ( from 220Mb to 190Mb) and the problem is solved.
The freezes for 3 to 5 seconds is "normal" when indexservice stopped.
Try checking the names and file integrity.
Remove the . in names of the file (not for extension), the problem also may be caused to this.
I have also removed ertain files with strange names, file type html, chm files, exe files, etc..
The link with files> 200Mb was suggested to me on a Japanese forum.
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What do you mean by resetting and configuring from scratch ? You meant you passed through recovery mode, wiped out everything, rebooted and reconfigured the phone from scratch ? (Cause I did this and this did not solve the issue for me.) How just factory reset from settings ? Thx
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Just a factory reset from the settings saved me. Two days with no indexing issue so far.
I have same problem!
I did not find any file >200MB (I had one MP4 but deleted it).
Because it came every view minutes I freezed now S Finder and the service itself with Titanium Backup and will see if it still appears!
p.s.: Factory reset would cost me another day to setup everything again.
fscherz said:
I have same problem!
I did not find any file >200MB (I had one MP4 but deleted it).
Because it came every view minutes I freezed now S Finder and the service itself with Titanium Backup and will see if it still appears!
p.s.: Factory reset would cost me another day to setup everything again.
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delete ALL files in internal and external sd, check, then add files you need time by time checking the service
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Same happened to me for about four hours... and now all is fine ..
The indexing service reminded me of windows vista where the search gave results from within PDF files. i used to leave the computer ON all night and even sometime more than a day ( Gigs of books ) but then the benefit is fast search ..
so if i were you , I would wait a few days ( if replacement warranty allows it ) and then reep the benefits of the indexed search,
fscherz said:
I have same problem!
I did not find any file >200MB (I had one MP4 but deleted it).
Because it came every view minutes I freezed now S Finder and the service itself with Titanium Backup and will see if it still appears!
p.s.: Factory reset would cost me another day to setup everything again.
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Try checking the names and file integrity.
Remove the . in names of the file (not for extension), the problem also may be caused to this.
I have also removed ertain files with strange names, file type html, chm files, exe files, etc..
M3r71n0 said:
Try checking the names and file integrity.
Remove the . in names of the file (not for extension), the problem also may be caused to this.
I have also removed ertain files with strange names, file type html, chm files, exe files, etc..
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This feature is absolute bs. I have a 64gb microsd card full of files I transferred from my Note II and I can't even make a phone call without the phone stuttering and the index service causing my phone to stutter once every 15 seconds.
Frigging samsung and their crappy bloat.
I found out that diactivating Air Commande in Control Tab in Settings for few minutes allows IndexService to finish indexing and solved the problem for me. Please try and confirm
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hey,
many of us have faced an issue with the battery after flashing the official JB
well this may not be a sol " cuz i don't know what happend!"
so what i did was
1. flashing LPF 4.0.3 wipe data before flashing , not after.
2. flashing the ls8 and the lpx modem at the same time no data wipe
thats it
I'll try this
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From the screenshot I see that you have a big problem with reception signal, which, most likely, causes many wakelocks. Change the modem with one from your country. And whats the solution btw?
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I don't get this too. Your screenshot is full of wakelocks, and the only reason your battery isn't empty yet is because your screen wasn't on all the time...
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I found out that the new "google now" ate ALOT of battery in my case.
Try disabling this.
for the screen on! i was oppening the secreen or receiving calls
yesterday i stayed upto 6 hrs after the screen shot was taken, wifi connected and it last till 7%
for my modem, the area where i live having problems with connection, all the modems kh3 and lb7 did the same, at least this modem catched the gps here
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for the screen on! i was oppening the secreen or receiving calls
yesterday i stayed upto 6 hrs after the screen shot was taken, wifi connected and it last till 7%
for my modem, the area where i live having problems with connection, all the modems kh3 and lb7 did the same, at least this modem catched the gps here
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Okay, but what's your point by opening this thread..?
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look how much the battery last!!
eraser0 said:
look how much the battery last!!
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and why did you recharge 75% through the cycle? the main solution has been posted numerous times and it has to do with media scanner running in the background
d1rX said:
and why did you recharge 75% through the cycle? the main solution has been posted numerous times and it has to do with media scanner running in the background
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well, i roam around here a lot, must've missed this one, any link on that, or any solution?
PlutoDelic said:
well, i roam around here a lot, must've missed this one, any link on that, or any solution?
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Sure, but first post what apps you're running in background -- maybe it's not media, but something else like Google Now, location service (maps)? How does your phone "sleep"? Does it wake up?
Anyway, media fix that seem to resolve my problems (no more media scanner in task manager)
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and why did you recharge 75% through the cycle? the main solution has been posted numerous times and it has to do with media scanner running in the background
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no i connected it to the pc for some time
also i didn't disable any service and the battery is lasting for me more than ics
d1rX said:
Sure, but first post what apps you're running in background -- maybe it's not media, but something else like Google Now, location service (maps)? How does your phone "sleep"? Does it wake up?
Anyway, media fix that seem to resolve my problems (no more media scanner in task manager)
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hmm, im having a hard time understanding whats going on there, but i do switch my cam to sd card as location storage.
regarding your question, i tend to kill tasks always after i finish using my phone, in fact i clear the ram.
this is what im having right now, considering that i slept 8 hours of these 18 there, it's way too much, oh and yeah, i have the extended battery kit (official one), one more reason to moan.
This is the best battery performance I have ever had from my sgs2 (using siyah kernel and the scripts from the neat rom and siyah optimisation thread
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PlutoDelic said:
hmm, im having a hard time understanding whats going on there, but i do switch my cam to sd card as location storage.
regarding your question, i tend to kill tasks always after i finish using my phone, in fact i clear the ram.
this is what im having right now, considering that i slept 8 hours of these 18 there, it's way too much, oh and yeah, i have the extended battery kit (official one), one more reason to moan.
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Just as a precaution, copy cache folder from SD internal to SD external and delete everything in SD internal DCIM folder. Something else is draining your battery. That 18 hours is too little IMO
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Just as a precaution, copy cache folder from SD internal to SD external and delete everything in SD internal DCIM folder. Something else is draining your battery. That 18 hours is too little IMO
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/storage/sdcard0/DCIM only contains Photo and Video folders, both empty. im using the stock file manager, i guess what u've asked me for may be hidden. However, there is a "/storage/extSdCard/DCIM/Camera/cache"
It is hidden in mine, but if you see the one on excard than you should see one in internal card. You have to look for wakelocks -- install BetterBatteryStats. I don't know any other method. That app will basically tell you anything.
Give this a read. It will get you started on how to find what's causing the wakes
hi guys,
I'm having an issue which is after i transfer some file to this Note 3 and now i'm facing a problem is the battery is discharge very fast and it always pop up one message 'unfortunately, indexservice has stopped.' It will freeze few second before this message was pop up.
anyone of you have encounter the same problem?
wai999 said:
hi guys,
I'm having an issue which is after i transfer some file to this Note 3 and now i'm facing a problem is the battery is discharge very fast and it always pop up one message 'unfortunately, indexservice has stopped.' It will freeze few second before this message was pop up.
anyone of you have encounter the same problem?
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I had the same issue but when i took out my toshiba 32 gb sd card, it went back to normal. how's yours?
ronyjarod said:
I had the same issue but when i took out my toshiba 32 gb sd card, it went back to normal. how's yours?
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i don't have any extra sd card. i store the stuff at my built in storage. but if the problem is fix only you take out the sd card, what for we need extra storage?
It's just the file indexer. Obviously it needs to rescan the entire storage when you add new files. Sounds like it runs into a corrupt file it can't index.
wai999 said:
i don't have any extra sd card. i store the stuff at my built in storage. but if the problem is fix only you take out the sd card, what for we need extra storage?
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I also don't know how to solve and i've been googling since 25th sept till now.
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ShadowLea said:
It's just the file indexer. Obviously it needs to rescan the entire storage when you add new files. Sounds like it runs into a corrupt file it can't index.
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I have mp3 songs, photos and some microsoft documents. i don't think these files are corrupted. any solutions? thank you.
ronyjarod said:
I have mp3 songs, photos and some microsoft documents. i don't think these files are corrupted. any solutions? thank you.
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Try removing all of them temporarily. If that stops it, put them back a few files at a time.
ShadowLea said:
Try removing all of them temporarily. If that stops it, put them back a few files at a time.
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but the guy above 'wai999' also got similar error message even he didn't use sd card
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but the guy above 'wai999' also got similar error message even he didn't use sd card
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Yes, and as I have also said this indexes EVERYTHING, not just the MicroSD. It indexes every file on the phone.
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Yes, and as I have also said this indexes EVERYTHING, not just the MicroSD. It indexes every file on the phone.
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thanks for yr comments
Any news guys about this bug. It is really annoying as the phone is almost unusable. I tried installing my apps on phone only without SD. The same problem appeared. I even exchanged my Note 3 with a new one from our local SAMSUNG store and guess what, exactly the same message poping up on the new phone.
Has any of you tried to root its Note 3 and freeze Indexservice with Titanium Backup? Any feedback would be appreciated
Argh same problem
es_hicham said:
Any news guys about this bug. It is really annoying as the phone is almost unusable. I tried installing my apps on phone only without SD. The same problem appeared. I even exchanged my Note 3 with a new one from our local SAMSUNG store and guess what, exactly the same message poping up on the new phone.
Has any of you tried to root its Note 3 and freeze Indexservice with Titanium Backup? Any feedback would be appreciated
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I'm having exactly the same issue and having trawled the forums I'm yet to find a fix. I have a Galaxy note 3 and, with or without 64gb memory card, the 'Unfortunately IndexService has stopped' message continues to roll and I get a temporary freeze everytime it does (roughly every couple of minutes!). It's draining my battery and rendering the phone almost useless. I'm stuck for what to do and would be very very grateful for any help or suggestions. Thanks
I am facing the same issue. It's draining the battery and the screen freezes
rhony said:
I am facing the same issue. It's draining the battery and the screen freezes
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I have exactly this same situation. I also have the 64GB card so I am thinking that it is related to that. That card is full and 70% of that is probably pdf documents. I am thinking that it is choking while trying to index all of that data.
I am familiar with indexers and I also suspect that there is a absolutely massive index file somewhere on the unit - most likely in primary memory. I'm interested to know what types of files you have on your card. If empty then it would seem that the indexing service has a problem with 64GB cards.
I will also confirm that it drains the battery so quickly you can almost watch the % tick down. I completely drained a full battery in 3.5 hours on a flight from Detroit last night. Without an external battery to charge from I would have been SOL half way through the flight.
I have same problem for the second note 3 strange that Samsung can't solve this issues my phone almost unusable
Mine settled down eventually but I swapped my sim (I run several different ones) & I get the issue come back. .. that's effectively telling me I may have to live with it after each swap of SIM. For example to write this post I had to wait twice for phone to unfreeze
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I found out that diactivating Air Commande in Control Tab in Settings for few minutes allows IndexService to finish indexing and solved the problem for me. Please try and confirm
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I found out that diactivating Air Commande in Control Tab in Settings for few minutes allows IndexService to finish indexing and solved the problem for me. Please try and confirm
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You can activate Air Command afterwards. It works
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es_hicham said:
I found out that diactivating Air Commande in Control Tab in Settings for few minutes allows IndexService to finish indexing and solved the problem for me. Please try and confirm
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You can activate Air Command afterwards. It works
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Not on mine. Air command is switched off on mine anyway.
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This bug is complete and utter bs. The indexing is a miniscule benefit when it works correctly. I am shocked that no reviewer caught onto this problem as the first thing I did when getting the device was move over my 64 gb micro-sd from my note II. I lost power in the gym tonight after only 7 hours on-time which is absurd given how my Note II lasted easily 2-3 days before and how every review seems to say that the Note 3 has better battery life.
I had to re format my sd card and so far no issues with index services. Wish there was a better way around it.
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same problem here, but after 2 days of trying, I solve it. I had a corrupt file on my SD and the index service was trying to index that file in a loop. After removing the corrupt file, all works.
My Note 3 has uploaded all the software that was previously installed on my Note 2.
2 issues at this stage :
- time to time, the messages regarding Internal or External memory usage, saying that there was 1,30 Mb free ... But there's 22 Gb free on internal storage etn 6 Gb free in external SD card
- after un reboot, the phone went on reboot loop. I had to wipe data and user conf and install it from the start.
Since then, the phone needs to reboot 2 or 3 times before being ready to use !!!
Another small issue in Lock screen : the ink effect does not apply color changes ...
And at last, Wifi seems to be pretty weak hanging out several times ...
Nani said:
My Note 3 has uploaded all the software that was previously installed on my Note 2.
2 issues at this stage :
- time to time, the messages regarding Internal or External memory usage, saying that there was 1,30 Mb free ... But there's 22 Gb free on internal storage etn 6 Gb free in external SD card
- after un reboot, the phone went on reboot loop. I had to wipe data and user conf and install it from the start.
Since then, the phone needs to reboot 2 or 3 times before being ready to use !!!
Another small issue in Lock screen : the ink effect does not apply color changes ...
And at last, Wifi seems to be pretty weak hanging out several times ...
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Did you root your phone or install any mods? Was the phone rebooting on its own before the reboot loop, or did you reset the phone and that kicked off the loop? Was there a particular app that seemed like it was causing a problem?
No my phone is not rooted.
Once reset, the phone is good. Issue appears after having installed my apps from Google Play.
I fought it was due to one of my apps but i think it's weird that just an app can force loop reboot.
And one thing fishy is the message about internal ou external storage being insufficient and still having so much storage left ...
One thing that surprised me is that the booting time is very short.
Lockscreen appears almost 10 secondes after the Samsung logo.
This is a problem with memory. Eject your external micro sd card. Save all the information then format it with your phone. Turn off auto update from google play. Then try to install one of that applications which caused reboot. Worked for me, i had the same issue...
Which app did u find to be the problem?
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I had a continuous boot loop problem after installing a few apps. It freaked me out as I spent a long time getting everything looking good on the phone. I thought it was going to be a case of hard resetting.
I removed the SD card and suddenly all was OK! I had been using the card in a different phone. So I removed any system folders from the card and everything worked fine. That is until I reinstalled some other things and the problem came back. So I reformatted the card in the phone and now it all seems to be working.
I also had problems with changes not sticking on the lock screen. They too are now working after I did the above.
I do however still occasionally get a pop up dialog saying internal memory is 1.90Mb or similar small amount. Does not seem to affect anything but the fact it appears is a concern.
Hope this helps.
Thanks for your help !
I will try to format my SD Card (a Samsung one). I have to backup media content before.
I let you know if it works and if the popup dialog is still here (I had 2 popups : one for internal storage and one for external).
I hope Samsung will provide soon an update or a patch.
Even without the SD Card inserted, the phone needs at list one reboot to be ready ... So weird !
UPDATE:
I found what is responsible for the boot loops. On the SD card the hidden folder " .android_secure " I had 3 " .ASEC " files belonging to 3 apps I had installed:
Nodebeat
Argos
Maps With Me
Removing these .ASEC files stopped the loop but obviously means the aforementioned apps will no longer run! So I have fixed one problem and in order to use the apps I have to re-install them without the SD card present.
I've checked the hidden directory : no file in here.
I decided to remove the SD Card and hard reset my phone.
After hard reset and phone configuration, the phone reboots with no problem. Still the ink effect does not apply color change (stuck on "no color").
I started to install my apps (still no SD card in it) and rebooted the phone.
Loop started again ... The phone needs to reboot 1 or 2 times before being able to get to touchwiz.
I think only a patch or firmware update will fix this issue ...
Anyway thanks for you help and your time
Oh ! I found something weird but good to know !
I have put back the SD card, install all the apps ... Still loop rebooting ... But ...
I put my phone in "Plane mode" and reboot : no loop ! i've tested this twice ....
Something going on with the phone trying to reach the network ...
Nani said:
My Note 3 has uploaded all the software that was previously installed on my Note 2.
2 issues at this stage :
- time to time, the messages regarding Internal or External memory usage, saying that there was 1,30 Mb free ... But there's 22 Gb free on internal storage etn 6 Gb free in external SD card
- after un reboot, the phone went on reboot loop. I had to wipe data and user conf and install it from the start.
Since then, the phone needs to reboot 2 or 3 times before being ready to use !!!
Another small issue in Lock screen : the ink effect does not apply color changes ...
And at last, Wifi seems to be pretty weak hanging out several times ...
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For the ink effect, it only applies if you choose Ripples for the effect. Not working on Watercolor.
Also, try to use S Pen when unlocking the screen
Aetherion90 said:
For the ink effect, it only applies if you choose Ripples for the effect. Not working on Watercolor.
Also, try to use S Pen when unlocking the screen
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Thanks for your help.
Indeed i was already using Ripples for effect but the ink is only applied when using S Pen .. Makes sense in a way !
Nani said:
Oh ! I found something weird but good to know !
I have put back the SD card, install all the apps ... Still loop rebooting ... But ...
I put my phone in "Plane mode" and reboot : no loop ! i've tested this twice ....
Something going on with the phone trying to reach the network ...
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I thought that the problem could be connected to one of my application.
So I did a Secured Mode boot (in order to only run the system apps) and the problem is still here.
So one of preloaded apps, after an update, could be the cause on my loop reboot.
You're absolutely right. I have the same issue with the Samsung logo showing up shortly after booting. Restarted the phone while in airplane mode and the issue goes away.
dgco86 said:
You're absolutely right. I have the same issue with the Samsung logo showing up shortly after booting. Restarted the phone while in airplane mode and the issue goes away.
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I'am at least reassured not to be the only one facing this reboot problem !
Just a thought
Nani said:
I'am at least reassured not to be the only one facing this reboot problem !
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I don't know if the OP or the other poster are still having issues, but the fact that the reboot is affected by airplane mode brings the SIM cars under suspicion. I would get a new SIM provisioned by your carrier, and if the issue persists I would be getting a replacement device pronto. There is absolutely NO reason a new device, right after resetting should be anything but perfect. Accepting anything else is at your own peril. If you had attempted or performed root, or any other type of unlocking attempts I would wonder, but you state that you haven't.
The most important thing is to prove if it is the device, the cards or software. For me, AT&T would be shipping a new phone overnight just in case Theres no way I would take a chance on the presence of a defect at the price we pay for these.
Yes I confirm device is untouched (not rooted).
I don't think it's a SIM card issue as i have tried with another one. One other thing is that the phone works nicely from fresh start. It's after having updated the preinstalled apps, installed Samsung Hub and installed my apps that device goes on loop after reboot.
I think it's more a firmware thing, like the handwritting input mode not working on some device (I never have this problem but just in case i installed the OTA update provided by Samsung thru Google Play today).
Let me conclude to the post.. one of my friend bought this phone after the launch day it was a 64 GB Snapdragon 800 and the device over heated like **** and he had to return it the next day after paying 800$ upfront or more!!! I don't know what's happening to samsung..., I guess we should go for nexus 5!
NoteboyTech said:
Let me conclude to the post.. one of my friend bought this phone after the launch day it was a 64 GB Snapdragon 800 and the device over heated like **** and he had to return it the next day after paying 800$ upfront or more!!! I don't know what's happening to samsung..., I guess we should go for nexus 5!
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But was it just because of the indexing service indexing a large SD, or even lots of files on the internal SD, or even a large dropbox account?
Hello to all!! I've had the same problems like the 90% of the people that installed the 4.4.2 update on my Note 3. Android OS was almost always awake and was draining the battery like hell!! Sometimes even 40% battery drop over a night!! I've tried almost everything! Factory reset - some said that a simple reboot and many other not usefull things in forums that other people suggested!! Nothing worked. Sorry for all these I say but I am very frustrated with all these people that suggests things without even knowing the problem or even tried first do some things for it. Maybe I am wrong for this but anyway. Lets continue..
SOLUTION:
1st of all! You must have root access.
2. Buy and install Autostars from google playstore! 1.5€ is nothing from what this app gives you...!!
3. Open autostarts and give root access to the app
4. It will scan your phone for all the apps running etc. When its done you will get a categorised list with actions your phone does in many different situations. Like when you put a charger or open wifi or close mobile data etc etc...
5. open the category "after boot" and underneath you will see all the actions your phone does after booting inside android system.
6. Disable the following actions:
Camera test
Camera
And anything else at you own will! Maybe you dont want to start facebook.. youtube.. etc after boot! Even though if you are not an expert on all these things (like me) dont touch any other system apps. (System apps are yellow colored inside the app) Also I've read somewhere that you must disable and the camera button in lockscreen. I don't know if this helped also. You can try it on your own. I've had it disabled in my phone from the begining. All these worked for me under NG2 kernel. I haven't tried it with NF4 kernel but I thing that it will be the same.
7. Final step. Just reboot
All the battery drain comes from a sensor in the camera that stays on after booting your phone and it doesnt leave your phone go sleep even with the screen locked. Before those things Ive hand 12-14hours roughly battery lifetime. The android os was awake the 10 hours in these 12-14 hours.... now I am 12 hours on battery with heavy use and I have 78% battery... Android Os now is just 1-2minutes awake in 12hours of use.... I hope that works on everyone try these things! I would be very happy if this works in all of you!! I was 3 days over my phone to find a solution and Ive read tooooo many forums!
Finally sorry for my english. I know that I am not very good but I ve tried..
EDITED: Uploaded pics of the HUGE difference!!! The attached image is before!
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Camera Test APK can be deleted. Will try that.
My Note 3 with KitKat 4.4.2 seems to do great with battery use. I've seen it only lose one or two percent from a full 100% charge after 8 to 12 hours if I'm not using it much. The big difference in the way I use mine however is it's in Airplane mode all of the time. I suspect that part of the phone may use a fair amount of power and depending on how far your nearest cell tower is will use a lot more power for phones that are further away from a cell tower. Phones make brief transmissions even when you are not using your phone to stay in touch with the cell tower unless you are in Airplane mode.
I am using Autorun Manager to try this out.
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Viptr said:
Hello to all!! I've had the same problems like the 90% of the people that installed the 4.4.2 update on my Note 3. Android OS was almost always awake and was draining the battery like hell!! Sometimes even 40% battery drop over a night!! I've tried almost everything! Factory reset - some said that a simple reboot and many other not usefull things in forums that other people suggested!! Nothing worked. Sorry for all these I say but I am very frustrated with all these people that suggests things without even knowing the problem or even tried first do some things for it. Maybe I am wrong for this but anyway. Lets continue..
SOLUTION:
1st of all! You must have root access.
2. Buy and install Autostars from google playstore! 1.5€ is nothing from what this app gives you...!!
3. Open autostarts and give root access to the app
4. It will scan your phone for all the apps running etc. When its done you will get a categorised list with actions your phone does in many different situations. Like when you put a charger or open wifi or close mobile data etc etc...
5. open the category "after boot" and underneath you will see all the actions your phone does after booting inside android system.
6. Disable the following actions:
Camera test
Camera
And anything else at you own will! Maybe you dont want to start facebook.. youtube.. etc after boot! Even though if you are not an expert on all these things (like me) dont touch any other system apps. (System apps are yellow colored inside the app) Also I've read somewhere that you must disable and the camera button in lockscreen. I don't know if this helped also. You can try it on your own. I've had it disabled in my phone from the begining. All these worked for me under NG2 kernel. I haven't tried it with NF4 kernel but I thing that it will be the same.
7. Final step. Just reboot
All the battery drain comes from a sensor in the camera that stays on after booting your phone and it doesnt leave your phone go sleep even with the screen locked. Before those things Ive hand 12-14hours roughly battery lifetime. The android os was awake the 10 hours in these 12-14 hours.... now I am 12 hours on battery with heavy use and I have 78% battery... Android Os now is just 1-2minutes awake in 12hours of use.... I hope that works on everyone try these things! I would be very happy if this works in all of you!! I was 3 days over my phone to find a solution and Ive read tooooo many forums!
Finally sorry for my english. I know that I am not very good but I ve tried..
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Can't find Autostars app, can you post a link?
Jason x
I believe that freezing an app and stop it from running is better than deleting it! If you freeze it and you have a problem you can just unfreeze it. Deleting it making a lot more time to fix the problem.. But sure I believe that if you can delete it then you will have the same result.
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droidzer1 said:
My Note 3 with KitKat 4.4.2 seems to do great with battery use. I've seen it only lose one or two percent from a full 100% charge after 8 to 12 hours if I'm not using it much. The big difference in the way I use mine however is it's in Airplane mode all of the time. I suspect that part of the phone may use a fair amount of power and depending on how far your nearest cell tower is will use a lot more power for phones that are further away from a cell tower. Phones make brief transmissions even when you are not using your phone to stay in touch with the cell tower unless you are in Airplane mode.
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Hello my friend! As I said in the main post this problem can be found in the majority of the phone that running the 4.4.2 kk rom. Sure the phone antenna consumes more battery when your phone is at greater distances from the cell tower and when you lose some more battery 'juice' because of this it is not considered as a battery drain problem... this is normal! Also Ive said in the post that the battery drain was from the android os and not the cell tower. When you go to the battery information to see the consumptions you will see that android os and the cell tower is in different categories. Anyway.. you should be very happy because belong to the minority of this 4.4.2. Problem and you dont have to do any of the above to get your battery back!
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Springles said:
I am using Autorun Manager to try this out.
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I dont know this app but it must do the same thing.. ! Give it a try and enjoy the results!
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code72 said:
Can't find Autostars app, can you post a link?
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I hope this link helps!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.elsdoerfer.android.autostarts
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I'am very pleased with the battery now! I Thing I will never update my phone again!! If my battery was brand new I bet that it would hold 2 days with my phone usage.
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For AutoStarts, BootManager module for Xposed works pretty well too
PlutoDelic said:
For AutoStarts, BootManager module for Xposed works pretty well too
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Thank you !
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Overheating on my Galaxy S4.
I have a Galaxy S4 for about a year, I have this problem almost since I bought it, but it appears and reappears, so I let it go.
My Galaxy S4, using WhatsApp Music and the CPU temperature rises to just using these programs 45-50ºC
Using only the poweramp the instrument reaches 65c for no reason.
Using browser is hopeless, the device rises to 50-70 degrees and finally restarts or shuts down.
When I bought the unit in the first week I realized that he was heating a lot, but did not reach this temperature (50-70) normally.
I read in various forums that the normal temperature of the Galaxy S4 units were 35-56c
Recently, I downloaded a few albums of music and some pictures on my phone that day he shot and started this strange behavior, and following the same steps bellow, the problem still persists.
I already own a Galaxy Note and I have witnessed the bug "AndroidMediaScanner".
I did all the steps (exeto formatting the MicroSD, I recently formatted to exFAT SD) Until I checked the status of the reading process of media using the Android ADB, there was nothing abnormal ..
Even without the memory card, few files in SD (just applications) the problem still appears.
What do you think? It may be a hardware problem that requires replacement?
It may be the battery?
It may be the ROM • (when the OmegaROM use a series of modules Xposed)
Recently reinstalled the ROM and the problem still persists.
I read in a blog that the DS Battery Saver could be giving conflict with the manager's native battery used in the Galaxy S4, I uninstalled the program, yet the problem persists warming.
Connected to the USB temperature suddenly increases to 65c without any reason or use.
What recommend?
Sorry for the English. I used Google translator.
Maybe i attach prints.
My initial thought would be to get a new battery. Becaus it jumps so drastically when you start charging it. You could also check your battery connections. Make sure they are free from dust and corrosion.
Hey Girafa, missed u man. :/
KevSanches said:
Hey Girafa, missed u man. :/
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xD
I sent him the link to the forum Galaxy s4 was not?
SocratesDemise said:
My initial thought would be to get a new battery. Becaus it jumps so drastically when you start charging it. You could also check your battery connections. Make sure they are free from dust and corrosion.
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Ever encountered moisture near my battery (cover).
I try to buy a battery when you can.
But do you have any recommendations?
thxz for quickly reply.
GiRaFa-SAMA said:
Ever encountered moisture near my battery (cover).
I try to buy a battery when you can.
But do you have any recommendations?
thxz for quickly reply.
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You have to find the "service" that is turning in background....
If you mind it is the AndroidMediaScanner, I can say from experience ( it was killing my battery in less than 5 hours)
I stopped this issue (flaw) by cleaning one by one my Music folders and deleting those empty or having no music file in it ( that sometime comes when you clean a directory from the music player interface) .
then my phone turning back to normal temperature state.
lolo9393 said:
You have to find the "service" that is turning in background....
If you mind it is the AndroidMediaScanner, I can say from experience ( it was killing my battery in less than 5 hours)
I stopped this issue (flaw) by cleaning one by one my Music folders and deleting those empty or having no music file in it ( that sometime comes when you clean a directory from the music player interface) .
then my phone turning back to normal temperature state.
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I said in the text that has nothing wrong with MediaScanner Android. I used the Android Debug Bridge to verify this and it appears to be normal.
The application showed 10% CPU usage when the unit was starting.
I used OS Monitor app (it shows up the processes of the Linux kernel and user) in order to find some buggy process that was doing it.
I removed 4GB of external memory file and checked the Android Debug Bridge MediaScanner if the process had been stuck at some file storage.
There was no error in both stores.
I witnessed this primary failure of the Android system twice on my old Galaxy Note.
Thxz for reply.
whats the solution