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[Q] encryption...

has anyone done this yet? I noticed it in the settings, but it said it can take up to 1 hour... just wondered if it was worth while.
if you have done it, does it slow anything down, and how long did it take you to run?
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iamdarren said:
has anyone done this yet? I noticed it in the settings, but it said it can take up to 1 hour... just wondered if it was worth while.
if you have done it, does it slow anything down, and how long did it take you to run?
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I tried but it appears to not work. You have to be plugged in and fully charged (seems to work from 90% ish), and you have to have unlock PIN set. But once you have selected and confirmed encryption, the screen blanks except for a green line drawing of an Android logo, and then after a minute or so the screen blanks out and then you wait...and wait....and wait...and wait. I gave up after 4 hours.
If at any point you switch screen on, you get the PIN prompt: enter PIN, and you're presented with the blank screen with green line diagram of android logo. I've left it like this for several hours. In the end I reset, and got my device back - but still unencrypted. I've also tried without ever trying to log in until at least 4 hours have elapsed, in case the login attempt disturbed the encryption.
I have logged a defect with Asus for this and a couple of other things, and this morning got a response back saying that "We're still looking into this", which seems to suggest that they agree it is a problem.

Cool in gonna try now, at 95percent battery.
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That didn't seem to do anything.... I saw the green android with cog body, maybe I need to give it more time. I will set out before i go bed.
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I'm wondering how the encryption is handled, is it software or hardware enabled. I have seen with PC's that use software encryption that there is a performance hit and if the encryption is handled by hardware, like a hardware enabled HDD encryption, there is little to no performance hit. The PC I tested the software encryption on took forever to boot vs the hardware enabled one.

Havoc6266 said:
I'm wondering how the encryption is handled, is it software or hardware enabled. I have seen with PC's that use software encryption that there is a performance hit and if the encryption is handled by hardware, like a hardware enabled HDD encryption, there is little to no performance hit. The PC I tested the software encryption on took forever to boot vs the hardware enabled one.
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You must have used some strange encryption application or had an old computer.
Try truecrypt - on modern (2 core) computer there is practically no performance hit whatsoever (decrypting and even encrypting on the fly is faster than hard drives - on SSD it could be too slow though). The same goes for standard encryption used by Ubuntu (it's very probable that Android tablets use the same method).
Truecrypt (and probably most other full-disk encryptions too) work like that:
- all the data on hard drive is encrypted (edit: it's encrypted all the time, never, ever is decrypted data written to disk),
- when system reads data - it's decrypted before being send to applications,
- when system writes data - it's encrypted before it's saved to the disk.
Also - Tegra2 should have a part handling encryption and decryption so it could be at least partially hardware encryption.

Your right, it has been a while since I have used encryption due to a bad experience early on. I'll give Truecyrpt a try. The software I used before was Safeguard Easy.

iamdarren said:
That didn't seem to do anything.... I saw the green android with cog body, maybe I need to give it more time. I will set out before i go bed.
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I left mine overnight, and it still was not encrypted. I had even done a factory reset beforehand to minimize the amount of data to encrypt.
I'm pretty sure this doesn't work. I'll post as soon as I get a reply from Asus.

It did not work, maybe this feature isn't ready yet?
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As a feature, it's not ready for prime time. I have it working on the xoom, but every reset it erases my timezone and sets it to GMT. Also, it uses the same PIN as your lock screen, so if you have a numeric pin for easy access, anyone who sees it now knows your encryption password as well. It really should be two different passwords. I intend this weekend to reset my machine and remove the encryption, because it doesn't serve the purpose it was supposed to serve.

Bump. Any info from Asus? I started it at ~7pm. It's midnight, and on the last few power-ups I get nothing except the green android logo after I enter the PIN. So it seems it's still not doing anything? Gonna reset now I guess.

Same problem here with a Transformer TF-101 Build number HRI66.TW_epad-8.2.3.8-20110423
See nothing but a android robot after enter the PIN. 7 hrs later I manually shutdown the machine.

Same here on the Modaco ROM.
Left it on the android pic for 9 hours... it didn't lock the screen or anything, and at the end, the accelerometer still worked when I rotated the screen, but I had to power off and on to get it back.
What does the encryption do, anyway? Does it stop you being able to load files on from the PC? Does it ask for the password when you plug it into the PC?

So no one has been able to get encryption working? I was just going to test this out and saw this thread. Thanks.

I've seen someone talking about some minor issues when running with encryption, so someone got it working.
That MIGHT have been on xoom, but I think it was the transformer.

Just thought I would share my experience with the encryption feature in Honeycomb since some people can't get it working:
At first I couldn't get it working like some people on this thread, I too was stuck on the green wireframe Android for hours on end until I discovered I could still exit back to the homescreen by pressing the home key on the keyboard dock. This happened on both the stock Asus 3.1 ROM and v1.4 of the PRIME! ROM (installed via nvflash).
I then updated recently to v1.5 of PRIME! via CWM and I can report that I was able to encrypt my Transformer after this update. It displayed the green Android wireframe logo for a few seconds, then rebooted and went into the encryption progress page. I had not really done much with the ROM other than change a few small settings and add my Google account, so the encryption was complete in less than an hour. I think the 'hour or more' estimate Google gives within the encryption description text is probably more accurate if you've installed a few more apps afterwards, but of course your timing will vary.
Furthermore I think that the encryption is likely only partial, because I was then able to flash one of the zip files from this thread via CWM without any issues or prompts. Otherwise I'm sure it would've thrown some kind of error such as not being able to mount the system partition or something of that ilk.
Finally (lol ) I also found this page on the Android source website outlining the details of the encyption implementation in Android Honeycomb for anyone interested. There is a mention somewhere of the 128-bit flavour of the AES algorithm being used to encrypt the master key.
Hope this helps anyone trying to get encryption working on their Transformer .

yet another absolutely useless feature, besides bricking the thing for whoever tries to steal it. keeps your data safe.. even from yourself.
i noticed a problem when inserting a microsd (into the pad itself) that it would not be able to boot as long as this is inserted. i am guessing this is because it tries to decrypt the microsd (that is not encrypted) and therefore is stuck in boot.
This is another aspect one should expect if this was a pre-release software. I am extremely disappointed with this product so far, mostly because of the software. most of (not any of the cameras) the hardware (including the keyboard) is pretty good

I did it 2 days ago, and it worked flawless. It tooks about an hour. I use it since and I have no problems at all.
The only thing is that I have to insert the SD card again each time I power on the transformer. Any idea how to change rhat?

fjoesne said:
yet another absolutely useless feature, besides bricking the thing for whoever tries to steal it. keeps your data safe.. even from yourself.
i noticed a problem when inserting a microsd (into the pad itself) that it would not be able to boot as long as this is inserted. i am guessing this is because it tries to decrypt the microsd (that is not encrypted) and therefore is stuck in boot.
This is another aspect one should expect if this was a pre-release software. I am extremely disappointed with this product so far, mostly because of the software. most of (not any of the cameras) the hardware (including the keyboard) is pretty good
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You likely have ASUS to blame for this, as my understanding is that the Thinkpad tablet deals properly (from the spec anyway) with SD cards attached to the device even to the point it can additionally encrypt them. Again we are all early adopters, Honeycomb was sort of an experiment for Google, and Ice Cream Sandwich is the real next version of the andoid platform.
And encryption is hardly a useless feature, it means Google is finally trying to consider enterprise usage of their products which is very important to the further growth of the platform.

Precautions to erase all personnal info from a device

Hi all, I am starting this thread for my own info, but also hopefuly to see if it can be helpful to others in the future.
I often change devices, and soon will resell my S4.
Usually, before doing so, I wipe all, including internal storage from recovery then flash a stock/stock looking rom.
Should that be enough to get rid of absolutly everything? I recently heard a podcast where they were discussing the fact that many phones sold on ebay and such still contain quite a lot of personnal data, but I tend to think that the people reselling their devices just don't even take the necessary precaution to wipe it.
They went on saying that encrypting the device, then removing the encryption would make sure that nothing is left, but is it really necessary in your opinion? I am thinking that simple formatting all as I do (and many of us too I guess) should be enough?
What do you think?

kipue said:
Hi all, I am starting this thread for my own info, but also hopefuly to see if it can be helpful to others in the future.
I often change devices, and soon will resell my S4.
Usually, before doing so, I wipe all, including internal storage from recovery then flash a stock/stock looking rom.
Should that be enough to get rid of absolutly everything? I recently heard a podcast where they were discussing the fact that many phones sold on ebay and such still contain quite a lot of personnal data, but I tend to think that the people reselling their devices just don't even take the necessary precaution to wipe it.
They went on saying that encrypting the device, then removing the encryption would make sure that nothing is left, but is it really necessary in your opinion? I am thinking that simple formatting all as I do (and many of us too I guess) should be enough?
What do you think?
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When you wipe your data you are still able to recover them with programs like Recuva.
To be 100% sure you have to delete your data and overwrite the complete internal storage with senseless information.
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DarkerTimes said:
When you wipe your data you are still able to recover them with programs like Recuva.
To be 100% sure you have to delete your data and overwrite the complete internal storage with senseless information.
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Oh yeah I see, but it is still some "work" to get information from an individual person, what I mean I do not hold any sensitive info or anything.
But good to keep in mind, i guess I'm just wondering if that would be enough for normal usage... No personal info can normaly survive such a wipe I think

When you delete data on a storage it still stays there. It isn't deleted, the system just releases the space for overwriting with new information.
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kipue said:
Oh yeah I see, but it is still some "work" to get information from an individual person, what I mean I do not hold any sensitive info or anything.
But good to keep in mind, i guess I'm just wondering if that would be enough for normal usage... No personal info can normaly survive such a wipe I think
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For normal usage, yes. Using Odin to flash the stock ROM will remove all references to your data. The data will still be there but will not have a file structure so a normal person getting their hands on it won't know that there is existing data and will overwrite it with their own data in due time.
If you sell it to someone who knows what they are doing, the data is easily accessible.
If you really want to kill the data, kill the phone. Put it in the microwave for 45 minutes. Have a fire extinguisher handy. The phone will not have any data remaining.
(Do not actually do this. You will burn your house down.)

Skipjacks said:
For normal usage, yes. Using Odin to flash the stock ROM will remove all references to your data. The data will still be there but will not have a file structure so a normal person getting their hands on it won't know that there is existing data and will overwrite it with their own data in due time.
If you sell it to someone who knows what they are doing, the data is easily accessible.
If you really want to kill the data, kill the phone. Put it in the microwave for 45 minutes. Have a fire extinguisher handy. The phone will not have any data remaining.
(Do not actually do this. You will burn your house down.)
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Haha, yes true, or I could keep the phone for myself
No I'm not trully worried, I just wanted to see if others have better, more convenient or thorough ways to do so, but really i don't care so much.
Thanks for your input, I think that my usual way is good enough, and standard

kipue said:
Haha, yes true, or I could keep the phone for myself
No I'm not trully worried, I just wanted to see if others have better, more convenient or thorough ways to do so, but really i don't care so much.
Thanks for your input, I think that my usual way is good enough, and standard
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If you want to be more thorough figure out how much free space is on the internal storage and then upload that amount of mp3's to the storage. Then delete them. That will overwrite your data.
It could still be recovered by someone who REALLY knows what they are doing, but at this point you would have to be paranoid to worry about it.

On a tablet forum I frequent I had this exact question asked, and the solution I gave was to encrypt the data first, then wipe the device. That way if something is extracted from the device, it's virtually useless as the new owner won't have the necessary information to decrypt the data.

Yeah, all those would work too
I'm not that paranoid, as I don't really hold any very important info on this device, I think i'll just go for a complete wipe, thanks for your input guys.

There is a software named NUKE MY DEVICE.. its an apk file.. install and run it on ur device..it will erase all the data and the data will no longer be recoverable..

Seeing about 1 hour SoT difference between encrypted and non encrypted.

So I ran both variations for about 3 weeks each., completely stock with locked boot loader where it force encrypts the phone and unlocked with force encryption off.
Both completely stock and same apps and same permissions.
I'm seeing about 1 or more of SoT time difference between the two. The latter, force encryption off, having about 3.5 - 4.5 hours SoT. And completely stock about 2.5 to 3.5 SoT
Anyone else seeing this much difference?
With force encryption off, I regularly got 4 hours of SoT. Whereas in completely stock form I rarely saw 3.5 hours of screen on time
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Just picked mine up today. Would love to know if there is that big of a difference.

I might have to try that. How do you turn encryption off? Does it require an unlocked boot loader or root access? I don't want to put my phone in a state where my warranty/insurance would be void but I like the idea of improved battery life.

jimv1983 said:
I might have to try that. How do you turn encryption off? Does it require an unlocked boot loader or root access? I don't want to put my phone in a state where my warranty/insurance would be void but I like the idea of improved battery life.
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You need to be unlocked and format data to decrypt.
Also you need a modified kernel to disable forced encryption.

peltus said:
You need to be unlocked and format data to decrypt.
Also you need a modified kernel to disable forced encryption.
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That's too bad. I guess I'll just deal with my battery life as is.

insang-droid said:
So I ran both variations for about 3 weeks each., completely stock with locked boot loader where it force encrypts the phone and unlocked with force encryption off.
Both completely stock and same apps and same permissions.
I'm seeing about 1 or more of SoT time difference between the two. The latter, force encryption off, having about 3.5 - 4.5 hours SoT. And completely stock about 2.5 to 3.5 SoT
Anyone else seeing this much difference?
With force encryption off, I regularly got 4 hours of SoT. Whereas in completely stock form I rarely saw 3.5 hours of screen on time
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I started out unencrypted and accidentally encrypted again when flashing the latest build. It does not feel to me that I have that much less SOT though.
What is your usage pattern? Also, how dit you turn force encrypt off? Just a modified boot image or different kernel altogether?

As I understand it by this post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/general/guide-how-to-install-custom-recovery-t3231143
force encryption needs to be disabled in order to even put custom recovery?.. I;ll have to check again when I'm back at work (where I leave my USB A to C cable) but even using the skipsoft tool kit. it's the same way. No custom kernel is needed.

peltus said:
I started out unencrypted and accidentally encrypted again when flashing the latest build. It does not feel to me that I have that much less SOT though.
What is your usage pattern? Also, how dit you turn force encrypt off? Just a modified boot image or different kernel altogether?
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Just modified boot image. No customer kernel. I tried Elemental and found zero difference between stock.
I don't play any games.
- lots of emails and texts sending over picture/multi media.
- facebook and News reading (min 2 hours)
-lots of pictures and video (my 2years old son)
-lots of google play music streaming (min 2 hours a day)
-on LTE most of the day. (i don't connect to work WIFI)
-lots of "OK google" searches

insang-droid said:
Just modified boot image. No customer kernel. I tried Elemental and found zero difference between stock.
I don't play any games.
- lots of emails and texts sending over picture/multi media.
- facebook and News reading (min 2 hours)
-lots of pictures and video (my 2years old son)
-lots of google play music streaming (min 2 hours a day)
-on LTE most of the day. (i don't connect to work WIFI)
-lots of "OK google" searches
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Did you actually wipe your userdata partition though?
Just modifying the boot image does not decrypt your phone.

insang-droid said:
As I understand it by this post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/general/guide-how-to-install-custom-recovery-t3231143
force encryption needs to be disabled in order to even put custom recovery?.. I;ll have to check again when I'm back at work (where I leave my USB A to C cable) but even using the skipsoft tool kit. it's the same way. No custom kernel is needed.
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Is this the guide you followed?
It doesn't seem to be actual anymore. We're on a different build now.
If you use the latest twrp you don't need to decrypt anymore (to use the custom recovery fully).
Best bookmark Heisenberg's guide to root/unlock/flash. It's on this forum somewhere.

I took the decrypt option using skipsoft tool kit on 6.0.1. I believe it gives you option to pick, and I picked the decrypt route. And yes I did have to wipe user partition.
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Probably just the clean install. Google restore seems to be causing issues for some people and a factory reset without restore can fix them.

after one hour?

Nexus 7 Running slow and freezing?

dunno why this keeps happening im on the stock 5.1.1 and after a few months of use the device becomes very laggy and slow then after a factory reset its fast again. anyone know why this happens? i usually leave 3gigs of free space on it at all times too.

Unfortunately it's a normal behaviour for our Nexus 7
If you are rooted, you can try to run FsTrim regularly which improves the situation a bit. You also should try to keep >= 4GB of memory free, this even helps.
Otherwise you will need to deal with it is some way.

hmm more than 4gb free, ok will try and clear up more space, iv unlocked the bootloader so can root easily too.

also read up a bit on file system journalling, any more information on this?

has anyone used this mod: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2280496
also shouldnt the trim command be running automatically on its own?

got more info on this now, i think i will go the method of rooting first and use manual trimming method with an app like this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fifthelement.trimmer
reviews show its full of nexus 7 users lol.

so i rooted it last night and ran fstrim, it trimmed 5gigs. device is now back to its usual speed that a factory reset normally gives. issue resolved for now....

Android 11 - Pixel 2xl review!

Hey guys,
Since this is the last major update for our phones, I thought it will be a good idea to have a review discussion as to how Google left 2xl lines with Android 11 (I hope there is one update somewhere in future to iron out any bugs)
So! How is your phone's
1) Performance
2) Battery life
3) Sound (speaker/Bluetooth)
4) Ram management
5) Misc/Any bugs?
Let's have a discussion!

Heres my review:
Wait, its not worth it, yet
Thanks for your time
I was on it for about an hour before i noticed so many apps etc wouldnt work, and really it shouldnt have been so much of a difference that would result in so much breakage...

73sydney said:
Heres my review:
Wait, its not worth it, yet
Thanks for your time
I was on it for about an hour before i noticed so many apps etc wouldnt work, and really it shouldnt have been so much of a difference that would result in so much breakage...
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I'm curious.. What's broke? I've been on 11 since the first beta sign-up started and didn't experience any major problems with my day to day usage. It's about the same on battery and performance as it was on 10.
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73sydney said:
Heres my review:
Wait, its not worth it, yet
Thanks for your time
I was on it for about an hour before i noticed so many apps etc wouldnt work, and really it shouldnt have been so much of a difference that would result in so much breakage...
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Wow that's strange. Really curious as to what is broke for you? Are those Google apps or others?

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I'm curious.. What's broke? I've been on 11 since the first beta sign-up started and didn't experience any major problems with my day to day usage. It's about the same on battery and performance as it was on 10.
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Nice! I feel the smoothness has increased a bit as i found Android 11 was more smooth than 10 right from the beta phase. Although, I'm kind of disappointed in the whole. Chat bubbles doesn't seem to work and conversation is left to developers to adapt.

100rabh7791 said:
Nice! I feel the smoothness has increased a bit as i found Android 11 was more smooth than 10 right from the beta phase. Although, I'm kind of disappointed in the whole. Chat bubbles doesn't seem to work and conversation is left to developers to adapt.
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Chat bubbles work for the Google messages app for me. I even set it so all my contacts bubble Instead of having to set each one to bubble
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thewraith420 said:
Chat bubbles work for the Google messages app for me. I even set it so all my contacts bubble Instead of having to set each one to bubble
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Unfortunately my usage of messages is very limited. I use WhatsApp mainly for communication and it is not yet working. Although, high priority conversation shows pictures in notification which is a good addition i feel.

thewraith420 said:
I'm curious.. What's broke? I've been on 11 since the first beta sign-up started and didn't experience any major problems with my day to day usage. It's about the same on battery and performance as it was on 10.
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100rabh7791 said:
Wow that's strange. Really curious as to what is broke for you? Are those Google apps or others?
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For one Migrate, the backup app i use and have for eons, wont restore apps/app data properly, so i would literally have to reinstall everything from scratch. Anyone want to do that for 113 apps? Considering there really isnt that much of a leap under the hood, why are apps, and even simple apps like Migrate...which uses simple scripts to restore, failing.....
There were at least 4 core apps i use that wouldnt work out of the gates. It took clearing the data for them sometimes twice to get them to work. It just turned into a lot of work. Rolled back to 10 and Migrate seamlessly worked as did every app i use.
When you can downgrade and have everything working, whats your takeaway? The upgraded OS isnt up to it yet.
Ill wait for a point release...
Also the repeated prompts to complete setup 3 times, when id already done it, got on my nerves..again, never happened on 10
It did not feel complate, felt rushed, despite however many betas they ran
Sticking with 10, and folks im usually a bleeding edger...i dont give a rats about battery and perfomance if my apps dont work...

73sydney said:
For one Migrate, the backup app i use and have for eons, wont restore apps/app data properly, so i would literally have to reinstall everything from scratch. Anyone want to do that for 113 apps? Considering there really isnt that much of a leap under the hood, why are apps, and even simple apps like Migrate...which uses simple scripts to restore, failing.....
There were at least 4 core apps i use that wouldnt work out of the gates. It took clearing the data for them sometimes twice to get them to work. It just turned into a lot of work. Rolled back to 10 and Migrate seamlessly worked as did every app i use.
When you can downgrade and have everything working, whats your takeaway? The upgraded OS isnt up to it yet.
Ill wait for a point release...
Also the repeated prompts to complete setup 3 times, when id already done it, got on my nerves..again, never happened on 10
It did not feel complate, felt rushed, despite however many betas they ran
Sticking with 10, and folks im usually a bleeding edger...i dont give a rats about battery and perfomance if my apps dont work...
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Far different experience than I am having.. I even did a fresh install, and Google restored all 180 of my apps and put all my screens back how I had them. No aftermarket backup app needed. All I had to do was make sure my account synced before I wiped.
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thewraith420 said:
Far different experience than I am having.. I even did a fresh install, and Google restored all 180 of my apps and put all my screens back how I had them. No aftermarket backup app needed. All I had to do was make sure my account synced before I wiped.
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1) I always clean flash, full wipe. I never dirty flash.....
2) Never used Google for backup, and never will, for starters it doesnt back up data from all apps, only apps that specifically have google backup capability built in - people do not realise that devs have cook that in. Telling people to just use google backup just garauntees theyre going to cry when they realise most of their apps do not backup app data.
So again, my issues with 11 stand

73sydney said:
For one Migrate, the backup app i use and have for eons, wont restore apps/app data properly, so i would literally have to reinstall everything from scratch. Anyone want to do that for 113 apps? Considering there really isnt that much of a leap under the hood, why are apps, and even simple apps like Migrate...which uses simple scripts to restore, failing.....
There were at least 4 core apps i use that wouldnt work out of the gates. It took clearing the data for them sometimes twice to get them to work. It just turned into a lot of work. Rolled back to 10 and Migrate seamlessly worked as did every app i use.
When you can downgrade and have everything working, whats your takeaway? The upgraded OS isnt up to it yet.
Ill wait for a point release...
Also the repeated prompts to complete setup 3 times, when id already done it, got on my nerves..again, never happened on 10
It did not feel complate, felt rushed, despite however many betas they ran
Sticking with 10, and folks im usually a bleeding edger...i dont give a rats about battery and perfomance if my apps dont work...
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Oh well, I understand your frustration. True, Android 11 is a half baked update. I don't think apart from 2-3 features there is anything. I can consider this a feature drop than a full os upgrade.
Agreed about the Google backup it screwed my backup as well and although I didn't roll back to 10, it was quite frustrating.
Maybe you can update after the last bug update which probably will happen in December.
I'm just hoping that Google don't just stop with the security patches yet

My device never felt so complete and smooth.
Stock rooted 10 -> boot twrp.img -> dirty flash 11 ota.zip -> wipe -> first boot.
Boot twrp.img -> flash debug magic.zip, reboot.
Browse and install canary magic apk.
Only thing I think to notice is the sound seems somewhat distorted/overloaded somewhat, sometimes.
Never in calls.
Battery life and responsiveness improved. It feels less rough on the edges.

Mother_Teresa said:
My device never felt so complete and smooth.
Stock rooted 10 -> boot twrp.img -> dirty flash 11 ota.zip -> wipe -> first boot.
Boot twrp.img -> flash debug magic.zip, reboot.
Browse and install canary magic apk.
Only thing I think to notice is the sound seems somewhat distorted/overloaded somewhat, sometimes.
Never in calls.
Battery life and responsiveness improved. It feels less rough on the edges.
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I actually felt the sound quality improved. Yes it's more responsive. I'm still testing out the battery life can't say for sure if it improved much.
I'm liking that the keyboard is so smooth now, pops up smoothly

Came from a stock rooted 10 with only TWRP and Magisk installed, was starting to notice some hiccups and slow downs in usage. Decided to clean install which I hadn't done in a while to hopefully regain some performance as well as storage. Phone feels smooth again, haven't noticed any loss of performance or stability. Can confirm that audio seems a bit tuned up, having to set all the volume sliders a bit lower.
My real comments on the process is also more with the Google backup/restore. Since I had dirty flashed basically everything throughout A10 I didn't know what to expect. While it reinstalled all the apps, resetup all the home screens with apps/widgets, wifi passwords, and saved my wallpaper. It didn't save my custom notification/ringtone sounds, bluetooth devices, notification settings (specifically which apps were silenced), and most frustratingly my tasker profiles (my fault for not remembering to back them up). Fortunately, A11 has a new rules section in the settings that can change ringer state based off wifi which is what 3/4 of my profiles did. I have only tested the feature at home so far but it worked great. Had the phone on vibrate, setup a profile that when connecting to home wifi to turn the ringer on... had it connect to wifi and it immediately turned off vibrate and turned it back on when I disconnected wifi. Should do the same thing for work, just wish it had a bluetooth state so I could make a rule for the car.
All in all I'm glad I upgraded early, even though I didn't realize ahead of time the issues with canary magisk and TWRP installed. First attempt worked great, cleaned flashed and immediately installed TWRP, setup the phone/apps, then rebooted to install magisk. This was the bootloop but as soon as I read here the two weren't compatible I was able to reflash the update to remove bootloop. Booted to TWRP to install canary magisk and Elemental Kernel and it's working perfectly so far.

Storage issue
After Android 11 update can't access android/data folder. 3rd party file managers shows access denied. Few games can't be run due to restricted storage access. Does anyone know what's wrong. Can I root Android 11 and downgrade to Android 10. If yes any guidance available online. My Pixel 2 XL is not rooted yet.

gamebond007 said:
After Android 11 update can't access android/data folder. 3rd party file managers shows access denied. Few games can't be run due to restricted storage access. Does anyone know what's wrong. Can I root Android 11 and downgrade to Android 10. If yes any guidance available online. My Pixel 2 XL is not rooted yet.
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Your data folder was encrypted when using the previous version.
How did you upgrade?
If the bootloader is unlocked you could try booting a twrp.img to see if you can access /data.
Disable any pin you may be using before trying and if twrp asks for a password you could try default_password
Made any backups?
If the encryption key is lost you should just reformat the partitions to make the storage available again.
Maybe you can still recover the key to unlock the data if you didn't wipe it.

Mother_Teresa said:
Your data folder was encrypted when using the previous version.
How did you upgrade?
If the bootloader is unlocked you could try booting a twrp.img to see if you can access /data.
Disable any pin you may be using before trying and if twrp asks for a password you could try default_password
Made any backups?
If the encryption key is lost you should just reformat the partitions to make the storage available again.
Maybe you can still recover the key to unlock the data if you didn't wipe it.
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Bootloader is not unlocked yet.
I updated ota. Last night got it in notification, 1.4gb update.
I did backup all data.
In Android 10 I was able to access data folder. Now data & obb folders shows empty.
Can I still unlock bootloader?

Initially I dirtyflashed what caused a show phone.
Afterwards I did a clean install and it was done, but I went back to Bliss what ist the best right now