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Hi,
I am thinking about encrypting my Nexus 4. I am already using encryption on all my computers but I never tried it on my smartphone, so there are three questions I hope you will answer:
1)
How is battery life affected? Well, fortunately the battery of the Nexus 4 is quite good and I hope encryption won't waste too much.
2)
How is speed affected? My Desktop CPU has AES-NI and there's a SSD, so you don't even recognize system encryption. How is it doing on the Nexus 4? I'm just doing the usual smartphone stuff, means E-Mail, messaging, phoning, checking News &Weather and sometimes playing Doodle Jump. My research on the Internet about encryption performance on Android didn't bring up things I can really rely on so I hope someone here can tell me his experiences.
3)
Which algorithm is used exactly? I know it's dm_crypt and I'm using it on my other computers, too, but on my PC I can choose which algorithm I want and on Android it's given as far as I know.
Regards,
becha
You can't use patter lock to unlock your screen, which is a pian for me right now.
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1. Barely noticeable
2. Same as 1
3. Not sure
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1) I doesn't notice any real impact on battery life. Used the N4 several months before encrypting it.
2) Booting the phone is slowed down, and not only because you have to enter the key for accessing the encrypted drive. But opening apps and doing backup, etc. isn't slowed down. I guess I wouldn't even notice an encrypted devices and so did no one until now, while using my phone.
I was also doubtful before, because in my experience, on a laptop back in the days (5 years ago), the battery drain and performance impact was just to big. But on the other side, I do a lot more disk based tasks on my laptop, than I do on my phone.
in short, after I lost my last phone, I really wanted to give it a try and I didn't regret it until now.
Hoping to hear good answers to question 3.
@HB_Mosh
Well, that's not too bad for me because I don't use Unlock Patterns.
@Vanhoud @memleak
Thanks for sharing your experiences, I'll give encryption a shot.
becha said:
@HB_Mosh
Well, that's not too bad for me because I don't use Unlock Patterns.
@Vanhoud @memleak
Thanks for sharing your experiences, I'll give encryption a shot.
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can you please tell us your experiences, i was thinking about it, i guess you can CWM, encrypt then restore backup if you want to revert without starting all over
Yesterday I encrypted my Nexus 4, it took around an half an hour. Until now (well, one day...) I didn't discover any problems apart from the fact, that my Nexus 4 did a simple restart for the first time when trying to encrypt it. Everything went fine when trying the second time. The phone itself runs fluent, so up to now I didn't see any performance problems.
Now I can't backup my ROM - any suggestions? Perhaps Recovery can mount to an external USB storage or something? What a pain! You can't un-encrypt either, and there's no way to mount encrypted storage in Recovery I wanted to backup before installing privacy protection in case it borked my phone.
Another encryption question...
Don't mean to hijack this thread, but can anyone tell me if OTA updates will still work on a stock, unrooted N4 that's been encrypted?
Can't find a definitive answer - some have had success on other devices and others haven't.
I don't see why turning on stock encryption on a stock unmodified device would make any difference?
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DroidBois said:
I don't see why turning on stock encryption on a stock unmodified device would make any difference?
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I wasn't sure why / if this would make a difference either but as I said, I can't find a definitive answer. Some people say that you need to factory reset in order to remove the encryption before you can apply an OTA update, but others say different.
I'd be interested to know if the OTA would work after simply asking you for your encryption PIN on reboot, or if the encryption would prevent the OTA being applied because of the encrypted storage. Does anyone have any experience of this?
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Now I can't backup my ROM - any suggestions? Perhaps Recovery can mount to an external USB storage or something? What a pain! You can't un-encrypt either, and there's no way to mount encrypted storage in Recovery I wanted to backup before installing privacy protection in case it borked my phone.
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You have to use TWRP Recovery, which is able to mount your encrypted internal storage.
No way.. I thought I'd tried every option I could think of in TWRP but I'll take a closer look.
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If you start TWRP, it should automatically ask for your passphrase to read the encrypted internal storage. Latest version of TWRP works for me, older ones had bugs regarding to encrypted devices.
DOWNGRADING TO LOLLIPOP:: --- B151 from B331
I got it all sorted fellas.
Went to the 5X Repository. Downloaded the Stock 1.51 firmware. Placed the "update.app" from it under "dload" on sd card.
Opened up SuperSU on phone and went to settings to remove root and reboot.
After reboot hooked phone to computer and adb flashed the stock 1.51 recovery found in the repository. "same method as flashing twrp, only use 1.51 recovery.img instead"
Reboot phone again and then powered off.
Hold Volume up/down and power to restart and it updates form the 1.51 stock firmware on the SD card WIPING ALL DATA.
Now fingerprint and all factory settings are restored!
Thanks to all, and hope this helps others coming back from Marshmallow or CM13 like i did.
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THX @Demian3112
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Figured the above was an important surprise for some of you... OP still valid
Hello Everyone! Im new to the whole Honor 5x thing, coming from an m8 now, and before that a nexus 6, and before that a z3 then before that an S4 and before that an HTC Evo 4G LTE... Along with some minors, LG Risio, Moto E, S5...
Im just happy to say that so far I really enjoy this phone! Within the first few days of using it on Lolipop, i was getting 1d 15h type battery life which if youve looked at the phones ive mentioned so far... Really..really..wasnt what I was used to. A Day? For sure, the htc would be at 18% getting back on the charger... and it would die at 10%... with how long id had it. But... A Day was doable.
Ive been looking for a phone for SOOooOOO long now that had good enough battery to last a day at max brightness... Tweaking kernels, and Installing various ROMS (all of them per device)... Crack Flashing, as some would say. It just became a hobby... Ive noticed many weird things about the community, to those reading... let me list them now...
1. People all of the sudden(within the last 2 years?) prefer stock android over anything, regardless of what additional features are being added... Such as battery life improvements, Multitasking improvements, theme improvements, usability improvements... People like stock android... hmmm?
2. People want to be nexus so bad they will theme other UI's to death, just to make it look like stock, generic android... hmm..
3. Battery life, while a common complaint, seems to be indifferent to how frequently people update their phones.. (note: Marshmellow EMUI has a multi core battery bug, listed on XDA under mods..) or what ROM they choose (note the most popular rom being one with significantly worse battery life than stock)
4. Security improvements are completely unnecessary to the community (note the most popular rom being one that hardly supports the fingerprint sensor)
5. No matter how many bugs (even those listed in OP) people will always flock to the latest update of android. And then subtly complain to the developer about the bugs they already know about..
Such a strange mixture of people...to be sure.
However what ive noticed here, is a complete lack of readily available information, so i am hoping some of you might be able to assist me.
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So I succeeded in downgrading my phone from MM to LP, as the battery life thing is a legit problem for me, as much as it may not be for other people. However the fingerprint sensor has been disabled, and no longer exists in the settings list... nor is it part of the startup. (confusing to be sure, you would think it would be there, and just FC when clicking on it were there to be a bug, or if the OS didnt detect the sensor or something... it should still be there yeah? If i understand how it works...
Also I cant seem to flash a B151 rom at all, being on B33...3? <- marshmellow... and im assuming at this point that means i wasnt supposed to be able to downgrade... (oops)
So i got TWRP installed (whats up with all the random errors twrp is throwing? Assuming thats normal...?) and am awaiting a BMarshmellow rom to finish... Which leads me to...
Where are the Emui ROMS? Unless its closed... but if this rom maker can do it... ?
and also, is the fix to the battery life on marshmello noticable to those of you who also care about battery life at all?
Marshmallow battery is really bad compared to lollipop.. we had a BIG.little concept that worked great. But Huawei decided to make it a 8 Core CPU even when idle. If someone could make a kernal that activates the 4 BIG cores only when needed it would be approciated! Stock it runs almost always with 8 cores and the highest freq. This phone is really let down by poor software..
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Marshmallow battery is really bad compared to lollipop.. we had a BIG.little concept that worked great. But Huawei decided to make it a 8 Core CPU even when idle. If someone could make a kernal that activates the 4 BIG cores only when needed it would be approciated! Stock it runs almost always with 8 cores and the highest freq. This phone is really let down by poor software..
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Well there is a fix for it in the mods section that fixes battery. Finally got this phone back to functional lol..
Anyway, the fix for the moment anyway looks like it works, just has to be redone every reboot but really isn't that hard. After applying mincores mincpu 0 the big cores only light up when necessary. So far its helping a lot with battery life at least noticeably. Listented to music the whole way to work this morning and was still at 97% when I got there (I have an hour drive) , and that's using Youtube Music over 4g.. Not too shabby.
Yesterday I got to work doing the same thing on marshmallow at about 85-90 so it is doing something, and watching Kernel Auditor shows the big cores turning off when not in use. Worth checking out, applying the settings that are mentioned there don't do much im afraid, as I cant get them to stick through a reboot yet.
Currently writing an init.d script to make that happen every boot.
For now to my knowledge though it is working. Though I think lollipop was for sure better apps on screen off actually worked properly -_-; which im noticing more and more it doesn't anymore. Its more like a Doze control which is annoying because Doze is not near as good as stock lollipop control. I cant seem to revert back to lollipop and keep the fingerprint sensor though, if anyone figures that out please let me know!
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I cant seem to revert back to lollipop and keep the fingerprint sensor though, if anyone figures that out please let me know! Id much rather downgrade than continue to fix marshmallow.
Though for those of you wondering, Viper|Atmos//Sony Beats the audio mod works perfectly on this phone
Just finished Init.d for Mincpus to fix the whole Big Little problem Super good stuff. Phone now booting in the big little mode you were talking about. super easy stuff.
Anymore u tried? I posted that script but still EMUI is an heavy OS im waiting for CM to be abit more stable. U can revert back to LP using a local update though dload. I did it aswell when my phone was bricked. Fp is not working because u miss the firmware
I also lost fingerprint when going back to lollipop. I'll let you know if i come up with any fixes for it.
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I also lost fingerprint when going back to lollipop. I'll let you know if i come up with any fixes for it.
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U need the firmware had same.. revert though dload
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Anymore u tried? I posted that script but still EMUI is an heavy OS im waiting for CM to be abit more stable. U can revert back to LP using a local update though dload. I did it aswell when my phone was bricked. Fp is not working because u miss the firmware
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@Demian3112
So Dload for lollipop will revert back from Marshmallow and keep fingerprint reader? Interesting... Does the Dload relock the bootloader? Sorry for the somewhat noobish question, new.
Just looking through sys at the moment to understand the language used for big.little, seems to be a comma separation for them. Wondering if I can set min max this way and keep cores 4-7 at min freq 200000. Also looking for a way to get all big cores to disable when not in use, not just 3 of them which is the current.
Swap set to 0 in marshmellow, seems to speed the phone up a little.
testing Xposed here in a bit to get a few different features, debloated the phone, mostly normal stuff. Playing with other CPU files at the moment in root browser to see what I can do regarding the power draw from the CPU...
set SElinux to permissive to allow for proper audio playback through Viper//Atmos//Sony//Beats...Found Multiwindow, enabling that soon, don't know why it was ever disabled?
Otherwise mostly enjoying the phone at the moment, still above 80% battery with all this that im doing and im half way through my day. the CPU thing really helped with the battery draw.
You should try CyanogenMod 13: excellent battery life, USB OTG and gyro working, much better CPU & RAM management...
FP reader is working, but you must upgrade to MM first (to update trust zone and radio firmwares).
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@Demian3112
So Dload for lollipop will revert back from Marshmallow and keep fingerprint reader? Interesting... Does the Dload relock the bootloader? Sorry for the somewhat noobish question, new.
Just looking through sys at the moment to understand the language used for big.little, seems to be a comma separation for them. Wondering if I can set min max this way and keep cores 4-7 at min freq 200000. Also looking for a way to get all big cores to disable when not in use, not just 3 of them which is the current.
Swap set to 0 in marshmellow, seems to speed the phone up a little.
testing Xposed here in a bit to get a few different features, debloated the phone, mostly normal stuff. Playing with other CPU files at the moment in root browser to see what I can do regarding the power draw from the CPU...
set SElinux to permissive to allow for proper audio playback through Viper//Atmos//Sony//Beats...Found Multiwindow, enabling that soon, don't know why it was ever disabled?
Otherwise mostly enjoying the phone at the moment, still above 80% battery with all this that im doing and im half way through my day. the CPU thing really helped with the battery draw.
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It stays unlocked.. u Miss firmware thats why it doesnt work get stock firmware for your device and it should work not sure how you reverted.. keep in mind u will lose all data and stuff.
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Anymore u tried? I posted that script but still EMUI is an heavy OS im waiting for CM to be abit more stable. U can revert back to LP using a local update though dload. I did it aswell when my phone was bricked. Fp is not working because u miss the firmware
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It stays unlocked.. u Miss firmware thats why it doesnt work get stock firmware for your device and it should work not sure how you reverted.. keep in mind u will lose all data and stuff.
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Oh of course, I loose data all the time anyway so im used to that flash far too often to be healthy.
I reverted via a twrp backup, used emergency data recovery to factory reset using stock recovery, then it let me boot into lollipop, just missing that all important fingerprint reader//navigation tool. Will most def do that soon, at 60% :/ not sure where the random drain came from. just an hour later and lost 20%? Has to have to do with Screen off app closing. Huawei probably did the lazy thing and just changed over from their own tools to doze I guess that helps while its on your bed at night? And then never again?
As for CM13, im fairly apathetic to the topic... Not to be annoying, or rude, but ive heard the excellent battery life claim a million times about stock android, and while ive noticed its improvements over something like...say, Sense, or Touchwiz... Ive never seen it beat the z3's battery saving tool (before marshmallow), or as of the day I got this phone, Huaweis non-debloated lollipop.
Ive never seen a phone still be at 30-40%, at the end of work, the day after the day I charged. Until this phone. The Z3 would make it a little past lunch if I barely used it on day 2, but this phone played pokemon go for 2 hours the day I charged it, I spent the day listening to streaming music, browsing for various small things, watching a few youtube videos, a little navigation... And it had 40% when I left work the next day lol at 100% auto brightness. Id love to see some screen on vs idle drain comparisons between this phones CM13 and Stock, at that point, ill believe a battery claim.
It played pokemon go at 60fps and the game is a known battery/gpu hog (s7 plays slower than this phone, likely due to lack of gyroscope?)
other than some various laggy UI glitches, the phone was pretty much what id been looking for (I Prefer Miui over stock android, this phone is similar)
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Oh of course, I loose data all the time anyway so im used to that flash far too often to be healthy.
I reverted via a twrp backup, used emergency data recovery to factory reset using stock recovery, then it let me boot into lollipop, just missing that all important fingerprint reader//navigation tool. Will most def do that soon, at 60% :/ not sure where the random drain came from. just an hour later and lost 20%? Has to have to do with Screen off app closing. Huawei probably did the lazy thing and just changed over from their own tools to doze I guess that helps while its on yuur bed at night? And then never again?
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What buildnumber and Custom version/Cust do you have? Might be able to link you the right firmware.. twrp backup doesnt backup firmware that explains that you dont have a finger print, is the H from Honor at boot logo Red also?
I got it all sorted fellas.
Went to the 5X Repository. Downloaded the Stock 1.51 firmware. Placed the "update.app" from it under "dload" on sd card.
Opened up SuperSU on phone and went to settings to remove root and reboot.
After reboot hooked phone to computer and adb flashed the stock 1.51 recovery found in the repository. "same method as flashing twrp, only use 1.51 recovery.img instead"
Reboot phone again and then powered off.
Hold Volume up/down and power to restart and it updates form the 1.51 stock firmware on the SD card WIPING ALL DATA.
Now fingerprint and all factory settings are restored!
Thanks to all, and hope this helps others coming back from Marshmallow or CM13 like i did.
skeppley said:
I got it all sorted fellas.
Went to the 5X Repository. Downloaded the Stock 1.51 firmware. Placed the "update.app" from it under "dload" on sd card.
Opened up SuperSU on phone and went to settings to remove root and reboot.
After reboot hooked phone to computer and adb flashed the stock 1.51 recovery found in the repository. "same method as flashing twrp, only use 1.51 recovery.img instead"
Reboot phone again and then powered off.
Hold Volume up/down and power to restart and it updates form the 1.51 stock firmware on the SD card WIPING ALL DATA.
Now fingerprint and all factory settings are restored!
Thanks to all, and hope this helps others coming back from Marshmallow or CM13 like i did.
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Your Reply has been added to the OP for those concerned with Downgrading. Figured it might be nice to stumble upon the directions that, after reading many posts throughout the various roms, many people might actually be looking for. Will likely try this tonight when I get home, battery is much better with the battery fix, but not as good as lolipop
Great.
Hope to help others that were stuck the same way
@igotlostintampa flashed CM13 today.. Im sold on this device i would suggest you to upgrade aswell.. Everything works no bugs so far and its smooth as hell. Battery is insane.. Every core has a task and with normal use it doesnt even scale above 800mhz and the other 4 are offline all the time only when needed they get activated.. Since 1PM i lost only 20% battery (Im on 23 now) while i was installing CM also.. Deffinitaly recommended
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@igotlostintampa flashed CM13 today.. Im sold on this device i would suggest you to upgrade aswell.. Everything works no bugs so far and its smooth as hell. Battery is insane.. Every core has a task and with normal use it doesnt even scale above 800mhz and the other 4 are offline all the time only when needed they get activated.. Since 1PM i lost only 20% battery (Im on 23 now) while i was installing CM also.. Deffinitaly recommended
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Alright so question for you, im interested in that CM13 seems to be using the big little concept we have been speaking about...
((Marshmellow Big.Little Fix does not function properly. It resets without reboot being required, just takes longer to apply than the core modifications under smart power saving, init.d through kernel auditor on smart battery saving mode does not run script on boot, must be manually executed))
Does the CM13 Fingerprint reader allow you to pull down notifications? Will likely check it out, interested... Also, how about a screen off task killer? Is that present... Looking through its forums.
igotlostintampa said:
Alright so question for you, im interested in that CM13 seems to be using the big little concept we have been speaking about...
((Marshmellow Big.Little Fix does not function properly. It resets without reboot being required, just takes longer to apply than the core modifications under smart power saving, init.d through kernel auditor on smart battery saving mode does not run script on boot, must be manually executed))
Does the CM13 Fingerprint reader allow you to pull down notifications? Will likely check it out, interested... Also, how about a screen off task killer? Is that present... Looking through its forums.
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No fingerprint pull down.. No gestures for it yet. No off screen taskkiler but thats fine its stock android you will have enough memory spare.. Got 10 apps open right now no issue and u can instant change to one. CPU is tweaked already with kernal adiutor u can turn off cores manually and tweak it to what ever you like.. Day 2 of using battery is better.. ALOT smoother u can switch from app in a instant no waiting time at all. If u have any questions just ask it. Rom is stable enough for daily use no bugs so far!
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No fingerprint pull down.. No gestures for it yet. No off screen taskkiler but thats fine its stock android you will have enough memory spare.. Got 10 apps open right now no issue and u can instant change to one. CPU is tweaked already with kernal adiutor u can turn off cores manually and tweak it to what ever you like.. Day 2 of using battery is better.. ALOT smoother u can switch from app in a instant no waiting time at all. If u have any questions just ask it. Rom is stable enough for daily use no bugs so far!
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Ah see im not worried about memory usage, I never run low on a stock rom in the first place. Stock android has this problem where it allows some apps to sit open eating battery life when the screen is off. Instances of this include facebook, Google maps, general overall "Wakelocks" not present inside of the stock Huawei rom, that prevent the phone from going to sleep even though they aren't doing anything. The off screen task killer is there to close apps hogging battery life in the background that should have turned off when they weren't needed but didnt, after your screen turns off. For the most part this is the cause of the smoothness that you feel inside of a rom. Its going to be smooth because none of the apps are ever turning off, its a balance scale.
Not a big problem, I don't mind fixing that its really easy lol, just curious. As for the gestures that's a little disappointing.. It just seems like I may have to add a bit, but I can try it before I run over to lollistock, ill test it out today. You've convinced me with a claim of good battery though lol, and your previous comments about marshmallow, don't let me down!
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Ah see im not worried about memory usage, I never run low on a stock rom in the first place. Stock android has this problem where it allows some apps to sit open eating battery life when the screen is off. Instances of this include facebook, Google maps, general overall "Wakelocks" not present inside of the stock Huawei rom, that prevent the phone from going to sleep even though they aren't doing anything. The off screen task killer is there to close apps hogging battery life in the background that should have turned off when they weren't needed but didnt, after your screen turns off. For the most part this is the cause of the smoothness that you feel inside of a rom. Its going to be smooth because none of the apps are ever turning off, its a balance scale.
Not a big problem, I don't mind fixing that its really easy lol, just curious. As for the gestures that's a little disappointing.. It just seems like I may have to add a bit, but I can try it before I run over to lollistock, ill test it out today. You've convinced me with a claim of good battery though lol, and your previous comments about marshmallow, don't let me down!
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Im using Force doze app.. U can whitelist apps and as soon as you turnoff your screen it starts doze... You wont get notifications from apps you didnt whitelist until you turn it back on
I have the OnePlus 6T International, on OxygenOS 9.0.6. I disable the Device Admin of "Find My Device." I have a different app that does the same and more. I disable the "Find My Device" and later (days, hours, minutes, IDK) I go back into the Device Admins and it is turned on again! I do not want it turned on. Why is this app allowed to turn it even though I explicitly turned it off? How do I block this app from turning on again? Is there a way to "Freeze" the app in Titanium Backup? I have googled this all over and all I can find is how to turn it on, not how to prevent it from turning itself back on.
No one else is having this issue???
My 6t has the same strange behavior.
I'm on oos 9.0.7. International 8\128 model
Wiped cache from the recovery after every system update
Also wiped the full data and cache after the 9.0.5 >> 9.0.6 upgrade.
EDIT: 9 hours later, the settings are still retained. Will keep you updated.
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My 6t has the same strange behavior.
I'm on oos 9.0.7. International 8\128 model
Wiped cache from the recovery after every system update
Also wiped the full data and cache after the 9.0.5 >> 9.0.6 upgrade.
EDIT: 9 hours later, the settings are still retained. Will keep you updated.
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I have the 8/128 mirror black from the OnePlus website. I have had this issue since 9.0.5. I am on 9.0.7 with root and Elemental X kernel. I noticed the issue when I only used root. I think I had the same issue on my OnePlus 5
I'm on stock and unrooted.
I think i noticed this when i was on 9.0.6 but now that I know you also noticed the bug from long time, I think that's just because i didn't pay attention on 9.0.5
I'm testing, and looks like Find My Devices is enabled back as admin app after each reboot, at least for me.
Does it work the same for you?
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I have the 8/128 mirror black from the OnePlus website. I have had this issue since 9.0.5. I am on 9.0.7 with root and Elemental X kernel. I noticed the issue when I only used root. I think I had the same issue on my OnePlus 5
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I'm on stock and unrooted.
I think i noticed this when i was on 9.0.6 but now that I know you also noticed the bug from long time, I think that's just because i didn't pay attention on 9.0.5
I'm testing, and looks like Find My Devices is enabled back as admin app after each reboot, at least for me.
Does it work the same for you?
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Yes, this is exactly what it is doing for me. I posted about it in the official update thread, but no one responded.
This issue is also happening to me. Not sure if it is enterily caused by the find my device functionality but my battery life is crap. During night I can loose 10 or 15% without any screen time. The most I ever had is about 4hours sot
cesar.maranhao said:
This issue is also happening to me. Not sure if it is enterily caused by the find my device functionality but my battery life is crap. During night I can loose 10 or 15% without any screen time. The most I ever had is about 4hours sot
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I am not having any SOT issues like this. I get 6+ hours of SOT. What version are you on? Are you using root? Custom kernel?
No root, stock. Also disabled everything regarding location, nfc, Bluetooth, etc. This is really bugging me as I see I am one of the few with bad battery life. I am on 9.0.7 now, same thing since 1st day 9.0.4 I think.
For the battery consumption analysis, I suggest to get BetterBatteryStats and dig deeper
I have no problems atm with SOT related to this "find my device" trouble.
After every reboot i go on disabling the admin app rights.
I have that app but it need root or a special type of authorization to work properly using adb. I am patiently waiting for a working twrp so I can customize the system with root. Do you think I am having other issues on top of this find my device? I even uninstalled a lot of apps already to try and isolate the culprit.
No root needed, as i said I'm on stock/unrooted/locked_BL, you just have to grant BBS 3 rights, via adb, to dump battery usage and this kind of info.
You just need to run 3 commands from a shell on an adb enabled pc.
Without required info, it's almost impossible to say what's the source of your drain.
Anyway I doubt that's related to the "Find my device" stuff, maybe mail settings or IM/Social apps.
Authorize BBS via adb and then check on the BBS' thread how to log and analyze logs &/or ask for help
Cheers
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I have that app but it need
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I even uninstalled a lot of apps already to try and isolate the culprit.
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cesar.maranhao said:
No root, stock. Also disabled everything regarding location, nfc, Bluetooth, etc. This is really bugging me as I see I am one of the few with bad battery life. I am on 9.0.7 now, same thing since 1st day 9.0.4 I think.
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There must be an app you have installed that is preventing the phone from going into a deep sleep state. Check the battery in settings to see if it lists any app using more battery than all other apps. I had that issue once and just removed the app and never had the issue again.
Last thing you try is a factory reset. Sometimes old settings cause issues with a new system and just need to be whipped away.
OK, so I gave the necessary permissions to better battery stats and i now have a report. This is from having the phone idling during sleep, it lost about 15% without screen On time. What is wrong here? Can you help me interpret the data?
And from the battery menu.
Edit: made a topic for my issue.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6t/help/help-solve-idle-battery-drain-battery-t3879327
cesar.maranhao said:
OK, so I gave the necessary permissions to better battery stats and i now have a report. This is from having the phone idling during sleep, it lost about 15% without screen On time. What is wrong here? Can you help me interpret the data?
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Looking at the long one, it looks like you have an app or something taking a wake lock and not letting go of it. When did this battery issue start? Like, did it start when you started using 9.0.7 or before?
Check on BBS thread how to take a correct log and ask there for a competent advice, sorry but i'm unqualified for it
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Is anyone having serious battery drain? If so is there a fix for it!!
Not here...
Full charge at 9:00pm and by 6:00am I only see 3% drop, I don't call it a drain
(no root, latest Android Q update, location on, cell data on, bluetooth and NFC off)
Yes there is definitely higher drain on Android 10 overall.
Currently I am on AOSiP10 and getting 3-4% idle drain and about 2-3 SOT less than on AICP Pie. My friend on Stock 10 @ZeroInfinity has noticed a higher drain than Pie as well.
I'm in the process of figuring out what is causing the higher drain.
comp101inc said:
Is anyone having serious battery drain? If so is there a fix for it!!
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No mine is about the same as with Pie (I haven't noticed any difference ... apart from once when I ran it right down I only got about 8hrs of sot (screen on time whereas on pie I'd get about 9 but it wasn't scientific not sure if I had the exact same settings).
Is an app showing high battery usage (Also use hamburger menu to show full system usage which incl standby)(might even be worth also looking at memory usage for each app under developer settings, if nothing stands out under battery for some reason). If very high usage suddenly maybe an app conflict with latest update. Or possibly even a crypto miner or some other malware. You can also check battery usage when booted into safe mode so no third party apps run.
only got around 2 to 3 hours sot after updating to Android 10
ronFenomeno said:
only got around 2 to 3 hours sot after updating to Android 10
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Custom is always better than stock on this phone.
Wait for the AOSP ROMs to arrive and you will be able to easily get double that SOT time!
ronFenomeno said:
only got around 2 to 3 hours sot after updating to Android 10
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I did notice somewhat higher drain on A10, but not too much to worry about. My SOT on a single charge is usually about 5+ hours. Full stock, rooted. I am using WiFi Automatic to disable WiFi when the phone is inactive, so that might be helping, not sure how much...
On AOSiP10 there is no wild battery drain.
My device sleeps like a baby.
My advice? Stay off stock Android 10 if at all possible!
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Stay off stock Android 10 if at all possible!
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Not trying to convince anybody, but I am quite happy on stock. I used to flash custom ROMs a lot, but there is always *something* that doesn't work properly. Could be camera, audio, bluetooth, calls, sensors, whatever... So, optimized stock always seems to work better for me. Especially considering that stock on PH-1 is essentially (no pun intended ) a clean Android, I see no reason to switch. But... To everyone their own.
ronFenomeno said:
only got around 2 to 3 hours sot after updating to Android 10
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something must be wrong, maybe old app dicta restored or similar?
The following is fairly normal for me with web browsing & social media (no gaming), I have background scanning set to off for both wifi & Bluetooth but do have an always on VPN as you can see (that battery drain is from other apps using the VPN, not just the VPN)
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Not trying to convince anybody, but I am quite happy on stock. I used to flash custom ROMs a lot, but there is always *something* that doesn't work properly. Could be camera, audio, bluetooth, calls, sensors, whatever... So, optimized stock always seems to work better for me. Especially considering that stock on PH-1 is essentially (no pun intended ) a clean Android, I see no reason to switch. But... To everyone their own.
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What optimizations are you using with Android 10?
I'm getting similar results just using Magisk modules: FDE.AI (plus liboemcrypto disabler for on-demand apps and updates).
Also, my phone was ported from Sprint to T-Mobile and I've only recently got a better grip on changing tower conditions with this APN guide from T-Mobile. I had redundant APNs that may have been slowing connection to changing conditions while in motion or changing towers. Support wasn't much help anytime I called. Vacationing in a rural area with limited and slow data had me looking for a better solution. Even better than before coming back home and surfing internet in a passenger car on the freeway. Deleting the redundant ones was key, I believe.
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-2090
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samep said:
What optimizations are you using with Android 10?
I'm getting similar results just using Magisk modules: FDE.AI (plus liboemcrypto disabler for on-demand apps and updates).
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Actually, same here - I am using FDE.AI as well. I also use WiFi Automatic to turn off WiFi when the phone sleeps (IMO, it was a dumb move to remove that setting from Android). I am also shutting down Internet access with NetGuard to the apps that have no business with it, and limiting or removing location access to most of the apps.
On my previous devices I had to get rid of the OEM and carrier bloat, but PH-1 is using basically a clean Android, making it much leaner...
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Actually, same here - I am using FDE.AI as well. I also use WiFi Automatic to turn off WiFi when the phone sleeps (IMO, it was a dumb move to remove that setting from Android). I am also shutting down Internet access with NetGuard to the apps that have no business with it, and limiting or removing location access to most of the apps.
On my previous devices I had to get rid of the OEM and carrier bloat, but PH-1 is using basically a clean Android, making it much leaner...
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I haven't tried WiFi disabling in years (Juice Defender and profile apps) but I do limit apps' access to Internet with Adguard (unlocked licensed version).
I'll give the WiFi Automatic app a try and see how that goes. I have little use for WiFi outside of those saved networks that auto connect.
Thanks for the reply and suggestion.
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IronRoo said:
something muscat be wrong, maybe old app dicta restored or similar?
The following is fairly normal for me with web browsing & social media (no gaming), I have background scanning set to off for both wifi & Bluetooth but do have an always on VPN as you can see (that battery drain is from other apps using the VPN, not just the VPN)
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mine is just a bit weird on the battery usage. the Google play services is the highest usage on the battery but it just use running foreground for an hour. just want to clear the phone cache but it seems that it could not be cleared since my phone is not rooted
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mine is just a bit weird on the battery usage. the Google play services is the highest usage on the battery but it just use running foreground for an hour. just want to clear the phone cache but it seems that it could not be cleared since my phone is not rooted
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If you are sure it's play services you can just go to apps, find it & then go to "storage & cache" and clear cache or if that doesn't work clear data. (you do not need to be rooted)
However I suspect it's more likely another app is the cause as some apps will use services like location that rely on Google play services which then shows high battryr use but it is these other apps that are actually the cause as they are requesting the service. If you can't work out which tureen on developer option and look under "running services" and "memory" watch hopefully will give you a clue.
PS. You can boot to the recovery and wipe the whole cache partition from there
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If you are sure it's play services you can just go to apps, find it & thin go to "storage & cache" and clear cache or if that doesn't work clear data. (you do not need to be rooted)
However I suspect it's more likely another app is the cause as some apps will use services like location that rely on Google play services which then shows high battryr use but it is these other apps that are actually the cause as they are requesting the service. If you can't work out which tureen on developer option and look under "running services" and "memory" watch hopefully will give you a clue.
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clearing data is the last method for me. if it is possible, i would not do it.
actually, the Google play services don't play to much, the battery just drain when the screen is on. however, i have tried to clear the cache of google play service before, it doesn't help.
there is an update today, just see whether it would improve it or not. would it be the issue of the battery indicator?
Hey guys,
Since this is the last major update for our phones, I thought it will be a good idea to have a review discussion as to how Google left 2xl lines with Android 11 (I hope there is one update somewhere in future to iron out any bugs)
So! How is your phone's
1) Performance
2) Battery life
3) Sound (speaker/Bluetooth)
4) Ram management
5) Misc/Any bugs?
Let's have a discussion!
Heres my review:
Wait, its not worth it, yet
Thanks for your time
I was on it for about an hour before i noticed so many apps etc wouldnt work, and really it shouldnt have been so much of a difference that would result in so much breakage...
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Heres my review:
Wait, its not worth it, yet
Thanks for your time
I was on it for about an hour before i noticed so many apps etc wouldnt work, and really it shouldnt have been so much of a difference that would result in so much breakage...
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I'm curious.. What's broke? I've been on 11 since the first beta sign-up started and didn't experience any major problems with my day to day usage. It's about the same on battery and performance as it was on 10.
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73sydney said:
Heres my review:
Wait, its not worth it, yet
Thanks for your time
I was on it for about an hour before i noticed so many apps etc wouldnt work, and really it shouldnt have been so much of a difference that would result in so much breakage...
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Wow that's strange. Really curious as to what is broke for you? Are those Google apps or others?
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I'm curious.. What's broke? I've been on 11 since the first beta sign-up started and didn't experience any major problems with my day to day usage. It's about the same on battery and performance as it was on 10.
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Nice! I feel the smoothness has increased a bit as i found Android 11 was more smooth than 10 right from the beta phase. Although, I'm kind of disappointed in the whole. Chat bubbles doesn't seem to work and conversation is left to developers to adapt.
100rabh7791 said:
Nice! I feel the smoothness has increased a bit as i found Android 11 was more smooth than 10 right from the beta phase. Although, I'm kind of disappointed in the whole. Chat bubbles doesn't seem to work and conversation is left to developers to adapt.
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Chat bubbles work for the Google messages app for me. I even set it so all my contacts bubble Instead of having to set each one to bubble
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thewraith420 said:
Chat bubbles work for the Google messages app for me. I even set it so all my contacts bubble Instead of having to set each one to bubble
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Unfortunately my usage of messages is very limited. I use WhatsApp mainly for communication and it is not yet working. Although, high priority conversation shows pictures in notification which is a good addition i feel.
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I'm curious.. What's broke? I've been on 11 since the first beta sign-up started and didn't experience any major problems with my day to day usage. It's about the same on battery and performance as it was on 10.
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Wow that's strange. Really curious as to what is broke for you? Are those Google apps or others?
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For one Migrate, the backup app i use and have for eons, wont restore apps/app data properly, so i would literally have to reinstall everything from scratch. Anyone want to do that for 113 apps? Considering there really isnt that much of a leap under the hood, why are apps, and even simple apps like Migrate...which uses simple scripts to restore, failing.....
There were at least 4 core apps i use that wouldnt work out of the gates. It took clearing the data for them sometimes twice to get them to work. It just turned into a lot of work. Rolled back to 10 and Migrate seamlessly worked as did every app i use.
When you can downgrade and have everything working, whats your takeaway? The upgraded OS isnt up to it yet.
Ill wait for a point release...
Also the repeated prompts to complete setup 3 times, when id already done it, got on my nerves..again, never happened on 10
It did not feel complate, felt rushed, despite however many betas they ran
Sticking with 10, and folks im usually a bleeding edger...i dont give a rats about battery and perfomance if my apps dont work...
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For one Migrate, the backup app i use and have for eons, wont restore apps/app data properly, so i would literally have to reinstall everything from scratch. Anyone want to do that for 113 apps? Considering there really isnt that much of a leap under the hood, why are apps, and even simple apps like Migrate...which uses simple scripts to restore, failing.....
There were at least 4 core apps i use that wouldnt work out of the gates. It took clearing the data for them sometimes twice to get them to work. It just turned into a lot of work. Rolled back to 10 and Migrate seamlessly worked as did every app i use.
When you can downgrade and have everything working, whats your takeaway? The upgraded OS isnt up to it yet.
Ill wait for a point release...
Also the repeated prompts to complete setup 3 times, when id already done it, got on my nerves..again, never happened on 10
It did not feel complate, felt rushed, despite however many betas they ran
Sticking with 10, and folks im usually a bleeding edger...i dont give a rats about battery and perfomance if my apps dont work...
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Far different experience than I am having.. I even did a fresh install, and Google restored all 180 of my apps and put all my screens back how I had them. No aftermarket backup app needed. All I had to do was make sure my account synced before I wiped.
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Far different experience than I am having.. I even did a fresh install, and Google restored all 180 of my apps and put all my screens back how I had them. No aftermarket backup app needed. All I had to do was make sure my account synced before I wiped.
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1) I always clean flash, full wipe. I never dirty flash.....
2) Never used Google for backup, and never will, for starters it doesnt back up data from all apps, only apps that specifically have google backup capability built in - people do not realise that devs have cook that in. Telling people to just use google backup just garauntees theyre going to cry when they realise most of their apps do not backup app data.
So again, my issues with 11 stand
73sydney said:
For one Migrate, the backup app i use and have for eons, wont restore apps/app data properly, so i would literally have to reinstall everything from scratch. Anyone want to do that for 113 apps? Considering there really isnt that much of a leap under the hood, why are apps, and even simple apps like Migrate...which uses simple scripts to restore, failing.....
There were at least 4 core apps i use that wouldnt work out of the gates. It took clearing the data for them sometimes twice to get them to work. It just turned into a lot of work. Rolled back to 10 and Migrate seamlessly worked as did every app i use.
When you can downgrade and have everything working, whats your takeaway? The upgraded OS isnt up to it yet.
Ill wait for a point release...
Also the repeated prompts to complete setup 3 times, when id already done it, got on my nerves..again, never happened on 10
It did not feel complate, felt rushed, despite however many betas they ran
Sticking with 10, and folks im usually a bleeding edger...i dont give a rats about battery and perfomance if my apps dont work...
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Oh well, I understand your frustration. True, Android 11 is a half baked update. I don't think apart from 2-3 features there is anything. I can consider this a feature drop than a full os upgrade.
Agreed about the Google backup it screwed my backup as well and although I didn't roll back to 10, it was quite frustrating.
Maybe you can update after the last bug update which probably will happen in December.
I'm just hoping that Google don't just stop with the security patches yet
My device never felt so complete and smooth.
Stock rooted 10 -> boot twrp.img -> dirty flash 11 ota.zip -> wipe -> first boot.
Boot twrp.img -> flash debug magic.zip, reboot.
Browse and install canary magic apk.
Only thing I think to notice is the sound seems somewhat distorted/overloaded somewhat, sometimes.
Never in calls.
Battery life and responsiveness improved. It feels less rough on the edges.
Mother_Teresa said:
My device never felt so complete and smooth.
Stock rooted 10 -> boot twrp.img -> dirty flash 11 ota.zip -> wipe -> first boot.
Boot twrp.img -> flash debug magic.zip, reboot.
Browse and install canary magic apk.
Only thing I think to notice is the sound seems somewhat distorted/overloaded somewhat, sometimes.
Never in calls.
Battery life and responsiveness improved. It feels less rough on the edges.
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I actually felt the sound quality improved. Yes it's more responsive. I'm still testing out the battery life can't say for sure if it improved much.
I'm liking that the keyboard is so smooth now, pops up smoothly
Came from a stock rooted 10 with only TWRP and Magisk installed, was starting to notice some hiccups and slow downs in usage. Decided to clean install which I hadn't done in a while to hopefully regain some performance as well as storage. Phone feels smooth again, haven't noticed any loss of performance or stability. Can confirm that audio seems a bit tuned up, having to set all the volume sliders a bit lower.
My real comments on the process is also more with the Google backup/restore. Since I had dirty flashed basically everything throughout A10 I didn't know what to expect. While it reinstalled all the apps, resetup all the home screens with apps/widgets, wifi passwords, and saved my wallpaper. It didn't save my custom notification/ringtone sounds, bluetooth devices, notification settings (specifically which apps were silenced), and most frustratingly my tasker profiles (my fault for not remembering to back them up). Fortunately, A11 has a new rules section in the settings that can change ringer state based off wifi which is what 3/4 of my profiles did. I have only tested the feature at home so far but it worked great. Had the phone on vibrate, setup a profile that when connecting to home wifi to turn the ringer on... had it connect to wifi and it immediately turned off vibrate and turned it back on when I disconnected wifi. Should do the same thing for work, just wish it had a bluetooth state so I could make a rule for the car.
All in all I'm glad I upgraded early, even though I didn't realize ahead of time the issues with canary magisk and TWRP installed. First attempt worked great, cleaned flashed and immediately installed TWRP, setup the phone/apps, then rebooted to install magisk. This was the bootloop but as soon as I read here the two weren't compatible I was able to reflash the update to remove bootloop. Booted to TWRP to install canary magisk and Elemental Kernel and it's working perfectly so far.
Storage issue
After Android 11 update can't access android/data folder. 3rd party file managers shows access denied. Few games can't be run due to restricted storage access. Does anyone know what's wrong. Can I root Android 11 and downgrade to Android 10. If yes any guidance available online. My Pixel 2 XL is not rooted yet.
gamebond007 said:
After Android 11 update can't access android/data folder. 3rd party file managers shows access denied. Few games can't be run due to restricted storage access. Does anyone know what's wrong. Can I root Android 11 and downgrade to Android 10. If yes any guidance available online. My Pixel 2 XL is not rooted yet.
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Your data folder was encrypted when using the previous version.
How did you upgrade?
If the bootloader is unlocked you could try booting a twrp.img to see if you can access /data.
Disable any pin you may be using before trying and if twrp asks for a password you could try default_password
Made any backups?
If the encryption key is lost you should just reformat the partitions to make the storage available again.
Maybe you can still recover the key to unlock the data if you didn't wipe it.
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Your data folder was encrypted when using the previous version.
How did you upgrade?
If the bootloader is unlocked you could try booting a twrp.img to see if you can access /data.
Disable any pin you may be using before trying and if twrp asks for a password you could try default_password
Made any backups?
If the encryption key is lost you should just reformat the partitions to make the storage available again.
Maybe you can still recover the key to unlock the data if you didn't wipe it.
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Bootloader is not unlocked yet.
I updated ota. Last night got it in notification, 1.4gb update.
I did backup all data.
In Android 10 I was able to access data folder. Now data & obb folders shows empty.
Can I still unlock bootloader?
Initially I dirtyflashed what caused a show phone.
Afterwards I did a clean install and it was done, but I went back to Bliss what ist the best right now