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[Q] Removal of Stock SMS

I have searched far and wide, and have been unable to find a solution, but I am sick of the SMS/MMS included in the stock Samsung rom. The lack of Hyperlink support kills me... Any way to get the stock messaging app working or any roms which have the stock messaging app?

Try Handcent in the market. I use it over the stock MMS.

WunSick said:
I have searched far and wide, and have been unable to find a solution, but I am sick of the SMS/MMS included in the stock Samsung rom. The lack of Hyperlink support kills me... Any way to get the stock messaging app working or any roms which have the stock messaging app?
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Really, you searched far and wide?
It seems to me like you probably didn't actually use the "search" function at all.
If you had, you very quickly would have found this thread, that I originally started, about stock 2.1 apps working on the vibrant, heck it was only at the bottom of page 2 of this very forum, not buried under hundreds of threads/pages.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731822
If you had honestly searched, and replied in that thread, I probably would have even typed out everything step-by-step again, for like the 50th time to help make sure you get it installed correctly, but wow, now I'm just getting annoyed.
Sigh, I totally understand why so many DEV's don't ever respond here anymore. =(
~ Jocelyn

Just get hand cent or chompsms from the market. Then in the stock messaging app turn off notifications and in chomp or hand cent turn them on.

i am using handcent.. works flawless for me.. never have any lag time and/or force close.. i want to get rid of the stock sms also but i have not found anything here yet..
EDIT: I remove the mms.apk and mms.odex from the system/app folder.. now i don't see the mms icon and just using Handcent..

pinoiryder said:
i am using handcent.. works flawless for me.. never have any lag time and/or force close.. i want to get rid of the stock sms also but i have not found anything here yet..
EDIT: I remove the mms.apk and mms.odex from the system/app folder.. now i don't see the mms icon and just using Handcent..
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I did that also and it stopped me from getting MMS messages.

acjames said:
I did that also and it stopped me from getting MMS messages.
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Then busybox cp the vanilla MMS app to /system/app
The end.

You can open hyperlinks in the sms/mms app included on the phone. Tap the message and you can then tap on the hyperlink to open it in your browser

So much fail in one thread, ha.

cashless said:
Then busybox cp the vanilla MMS app to /system/app
The end.
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I did that with my first Vibrant. I dont have that issue anymore. But thanx for the fix.

Jocelyn... Get over it.
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［Request]How to enable SMS In Kitkat

In Kitkat, only default sms app can get and set sms. But I found the new sms software hangouts does not work on sms. So I get a mms.apk from aosp rom and it can run but show it is not the default sms app, and change this in setting. Then I open the sms setting and tells me touch to set default sms app. I do touch but useless.
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liu2002 said:
In Kitkat, only default sms app can get and set sms. But I found the new sms software hangouts does not work on sms.
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I too have this problem, the entire system menu where you would be able to select the default SMS application appears to be missing in the Deb build. I suspect that this has to do with the telephony apk or framework.
Maybe some kindhearted developer will be able to work us up a patch.

Right! The setting should be in the wireless and networks. Need someone to mod the framwork.
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Get Back the Old SMS Interface in KitKat with 8sms

8sms cannot work in the N7 LTE . There is no response from app when you tap on it to select as default message app
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Paten said:
Get Back the Old SMS Interface in KitKat with 8sms
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This does not work on the 4.4 build for Deb. The entire menu to select a default SMS app is disabled/missing. Hopefully someone will come out with a patch soon, but for now, your information is false.

I think you need to go into the settings within 8sms and select stand alone mode and then it will work for you.

Paten said:
I think you need to go into the settings within 8sms and select stand alone mode and then it will work for you.
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That setting does not exist in SMS applications on 4.4 and even if it did it would NOT work. In order for a SMS application to read and write the SMS hooks on 4.4 is is absolutely required that it be set as the one and only default SMS application. A setting which is NOT available on our devices. Until someone figures out how to reenable it in the telephony framework and puts out a flashable patch NO SMS application will work on stock, official, 4.4 for Deb.
Do you understand the issue here now?

ACastanza said:
That setting does not exist in SMS applications on 4.4 and even if it did it would NOT work. In order for a SMS application to read and write the SMS hooks on 4.4 is is absolutely required that it be set as the one and only default SMS application. A setting which is NOT available on our devices. Until someone figures out how to reenable it in the telephony framework and puts out a flashable patch NO SMS application will work on stock, official, 4.4 for Deb.
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The link I gave above says it works in 4.4 on the Nexus 5. Why would 4.4 on the Nexus 7 be different? I have it working in Jelly Bean on my N7 but I won't sideload Kitkat until I have time later this week, so I won't be able to test it out til then.

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The link I gave above says it works in 4.4 on the Nexus 5. Why would 4.4 on the Nexus 7 be different? I have it working in Jelly Bean on my N7 but I won't sideboard Kitkat until I have time later this week, so I won't be able to test it out til then.
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Because the Nexus 7 does not officially support SMS and Google made the boneheaded move of disabling it altogether. If you care to look back a few days you'll notice that it is also impossible to get Hangouts SMS working on the LTE Nexus 7, so, this isn't an entirely new issue, Google just fired another shot.
I'm sitting here with the device in front of me running the stock 4.4 build, I've looked through ever menu and every setting for the past two days. It does not work.
It does not work because Google decided it shouldn't work.
The SimpleMessageReciever application appears to be hardcoded as the only application capable of reading the SMS hook, and Write appears to be completely disabled. A patch is the ONLY way.
If you require SMS functionality on your LTE Nexus 7, do NOT upgrade to (stock) KitKat until someone figures out how to fix it.

Did you open 8sms and go into the settings within the app and see if the stand alone mode is there? Like I said, Ihave it working for mme on Jelly Bean.

Paten said:
Did you open 8sms and go I to the settings within the app and see if the stand alone mode is there?
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The setting is NOT there. I've spent the last two days coming at this issue from every possible angle. IT DOESN'T WORK and won't without a framework patch. (A similar issue to that with tethering on ATT, which also requires a patch to remove something stupid that Google decided to hard code).
Even if the setting was there, it wouldn't matter because that is no longer how KitKat handles SMS applications. I read the f'ing documentation.
edit: Nothing you say about JB is relevant, KitKat completely changed the way SMS is handled, and Google *intentionally* broke the ability to select a client on Deb, so, it will not work without a patch. There is NO other way. Everything you can suggest, I've tried already... twice.
Not to be rude, but I really have and people suggesting the same thing over and over, things that I've clearly stated don't work, or things that are in the 4.4 documentation as no longer applicable is really starting to bug me.

Well, I didn't mean to upset you. All I have is the link I posted saying it does work in Kitkat on the Nexus 5. I'm sure I'll be upset too if it's not working by the time I finally get 4.4 loaded. I'll just have to wait and see.

Paten said:
Well, I didn't mean to upset you. All I have is the link I posted saying it does work in Kitkat on the Nexus 5. I'm sure I'll be upset too if it's not working by the time I finally get 4.4 loaded. I'll just have to wait and see.
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It doesn't work, stand alone only works for 4.3 below...
Most settings are disabled...
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Try this guys, I can do a balance inquiry using it, but i couldn't test it with other number since I don't have a regular load and it's too late to go out now 1:26 am here...
You can't set it as default sms app though....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2434707

[Request] Show sent SMS time rather than received time, anyone with quick fix?

hi there,
i am looking for a modded SMS app that shows sent time rather than received time, but i am not looking to put up a new rom altogether. have root but on stock rom - debloated.
is that possible at all?
thanks
Gabrio

Stock SMS app shows you what time you sent an SMS
Unless you're looking to see what time the other party sent it? Not sure how any app would know that, as the phone only knows what time it arrived, it has no control or knowledge over the other parties phone or carrier, only it's own

yes that's what I meant... say I had phone in airplane mode, someone txted me overnight, then the phone will show the time I turned the phone on as "received" time, which is not that meaningful.. I know there's a few roms out there which have this modded but I don't want to put up a new rom altogether, so was wondering if there's an "easy" fix, I remember with my old galaxy s2 that all I had to do was to modify a bunch of files in the sms.apk and that was it - oh and I also increased number of TXT before the annoying conversion to MMS, now we have not to send more than 3 otherwise it converts, very annoying... would love to get rid of that too!
thanks

Ah right, so it will be pulling the info from the carrier as to what time it arrived on their server from the other party

yep - I know there are roms such as Phoenix Rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2741302 that have that included and modded... or tweaks from some time ago such as http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2178895 but I couldn't find anything specific for the S5 on JB 5.0 stock that's what I am running.... JUST for the SMS part... if anyone has something, I would be really grateful!, thanks!

Can't you extract the SMS apk from one of the ROMs that has that ability?

hmhmmh that might work but then I don't know if that will work since there's that odex/deodexed... I am not 100% sure it will work

Need package info

Can anybody tell me what this is? com.sec.vsimservice

Uknowdis said:
Can anybody tell me what this is? com.sec.vsimservice
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I know replacing it removes the rcs and volte icons that show up after rooting. That's all I know tho lol. It has to do with data service I believe.
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Skizzy034 said:
I know replacing it removes the rcs and volte icons that show up after rooting. That's all I know tho lol. It has to do with data service I believe.
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I was a lil nervous when i saw a notification for it...it was a devil face smiley lol. If it pops up again ill screenshot it

Uknowdis said:
Can anybody tell me what this is? com.sec.vsimservice
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If I remember correctly that should have to do with video calling but not positive.
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Do we know anymore info on this? After rooting the s7 (at&t) everything was fine, accept sending texts through messeges failed. Then this notification came up, I could not remove it from notifications. I did a restart and got stuck in boot loop and had to factory reset. Now, I haven't finished root yet, but still on same rom and this has popped up again.

Skizzy034 said:
I know replacing it removes the rcs and volte icons that show up after rooting. That's all I know tho lol. It has to do with data service I believe.
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Uknowdis said:
I was a lil nervous when i saw a notification for it...it was a devil face smiley lol. If it pops up again ill screenshot it
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If I remember correctly that should have to do with video calling but not positive.
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i got the stupid devil faced notification too. its also from com.sec.vsimservice . I never had this before but it seems ever since i started using Digits from t-mobile.
I cannot remove it for the life of me and it doesnt matter what rom i am on. I tried clearing cache and data and also blocking notifications but i can still see it when i pull down the notifications. I get it right after i send a chat message using default samsung chat app. BTW im on the note 5 t-mobile.
EDIT: i found out that vsimservice stands for virtual sim service. Well it must be freaken t-mobile Digits beta program... =/ so annoying.

I started getting the devil notification after root on stock every time I get a voicemail. I can clear it like any other notification, it's just annoying.

monkeyass408 said:
i got the stupid devil faced notification too. its also from com.sec.vsimservice . I never had this before but it seems ever since i started using Digits from t-mobile.
I cannot remove it for the life of me and it doesnt matter what rom i am on. I tried clearing cache and data and also blocking notifications but i can still see it when i pull down the notifications. I get it right after i send a chat message using default samsung chat app. BTW im on the note 5 t-mobile.
EDIT: i found out that vsimservice stands for virtual sim service. Well it must be freaken t-mobile Digits beta program... =/ so annoying.
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Anyone ever figure out how to get rid of. Not t-mobile as I'm AT&T. Also flashedvthe volt fix and he came back. I know something to do with messages but not out there on him that i found.

Mike the file nerd
I'm far from an expert at this but I could tell you how to avoid the problem in the future. I assume that if you have access to directories that contain system preconfig apps you must be running root privilege. Follow down the path to you're particular carrier. In my case I'm technically running on unlocked carrier but for the most part my phone still believes it is AIO(Cricket) ie boot still runs cricket sales code still runs as AIO. ECT. so in my example the file path would be /system/omc/AIO/etc. Inside your carriers file you will find several manifest (.xml) and text (.txt) files somthing along the lines of default_application_order.xml and/or enforcedskippingpackages.txt In my case on my s8 I have both. I haven't personally tried this yet so don't blame me if you try it and turn you phone into an 800$ paperweight (disclaimer) not to mention tampering xml is slightly outside of ethical phone use! That being said I'm of the opinion at least in my own case; if I pay for a device and don't have a contract against it i.e. I outright own the device I may set it up as i please. (Disclaimer) So ethics behind us. If I were to be experiencing this problem I would start by adding the problem pkg (...vsim...apk) whatever yours is called to the enforcedskipping.txt first (as it's slightly less unethical to change a text than a manifest) second find the system app either by an app like sysapp remover or like a real man inside the file system under probably something along the lines of "priv-app" dir or by superuser enabled terminals either abd via your computer/mac/linux whatever you run or by one of the many available terminals in the store of your choice and uninstall your problem apps (i highly suggest making a complete nandroid backup or tar or whatever recovery you use first and also saving a copy of the apk just in case) reboot your phone to recovery clear your cache partition remount the system and reboot. If this hasn't cleared up your problem back to recovery for a factory wipe with said modified files in place and backup ready. Reinstall everything then restore your backup via cmw/twrp/safestrap/bootstrap/odin/lgbridge/etc.etcetc whatever your preferred recovery method is your problem should be fixed. If still not mod the xml instead of the txt and restart from step one. Once again I do not know what dependency/gradles/etc may or may not depend on this what functions you may kill sim cards locked/ruined etc and I'm no professional so if you brick☠??? your ??that's on you for listening to an amateur enthusiast. Now I'm sure one of our wonderful experts here will come along and correct everything I've just said but I'm ok with this I listen to these guys every day I wouldn't know a fraction of the things I do without this wonderful forum and these amazing devs. So I appreciate their criticism as tutoring.
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With all that said and out of the way I would like to hear from anyone who has tried this personally or other method for removing this as I myself was led to this particular thread because I was investigating the possibility of what I could change within this particular system app myself. I brick my phone phone twice a day usually so before I crash my very well set up system I usually investigate first the reciprocation/ramifications of adjusting system orientated files/apps.

Phone lags when receiving text messages

I guess the title is pretty self explanatory. I'm not rooted and running the latest updates from Tmo. This has been a issue since the first day I bought the phone but I guess now it's getting to me. I've tried the stock messaging app as well as Chomp, Textra and Handcent and it's the same thing. No matter what I'm doing, when I get a text message the phone freezes/lags. I can pretty much predict when I have one coming because of it. This is first phone I can remember having this issue. Old gf of mine used to have the S5 complained of the same thing and this is my first Samsung device in a long time. Wanted to know if it's my phone or just the way TW handles incoming messages.

Doesn't happen on mine.
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toastido said:
Doesn't happen on mine.
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Yeah I was kinda thinking the same thing. I was hanging on to a thread of hope but it is dashed now. LOL. Thanks for confirming. It didn't seem like something that millions of people would put up with.

Im having the same issue
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klbjr said:
I guess the title is pretty self explanatory. I'm not rooted and running the latest updates from Tmo. This has been a issue since the first day I bought the phone but I guess now it's getting to me. I've tried the stock messaging app as well as Chomp, Textra and Handcent and it's the same thing. No matter what I'm doing, when I get a text message the phone freezes/lags. I can pretty much predict when I have one coming because of it. This is first phone I can remember having this issue. Old gf of mine used to have the S5 complained of the same thing and this is my first Samsung device in a long time. Wanted to know if it's my phone or just the way TW handles incoming messages.
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Isn't there any option like show new message as Popup or extra action for new messages?
Please test Google Messenger App with default setting and also uninstall others and disable the stock messaging app.
let me know if still there is problem.
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Geeks Empire said:
Isn't there any option like show new message as Popup or extra action for new messages?
Please test Google Messenger App with default setting and also uninstall others and disable the stock messaging app.
let me know if still there is problem.
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Yeah that didn't work either. It must be my phone. I don't know what could be wrong that it only happens when I get a text but oh well. On to the S8