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[Q] Nexus 7 4.2 Buggy

I have a nexus 7 32GB that came with 4.1.1 the first time I booted it up I upgraded to 4.2 directly. But now after using Android 4.2 for a while I have to say I'm a bit dissapointed:
When playing music with the Google Music app it seems to stutter sometimes.
Bluethoot is really buggy
I have seen that December is missing in contacts (I don't care about this one really)
ALSO!! the biggest problem populair games like GTA III and NFS Most Wanted seems to lag in certain points (I have a friend with a Transformers Infinity running 4.1.1 Jellybean and all runs smooth there :s)
Now I am really dissapointed when I bought this tablet I thought it would be an awesome experience but it seems like NOT ! :crying:
Do other people have the same problems too ?
EDIT: forgot to mention my tablet is not unlocked or rooted or so it's untouched stock rom

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2007319
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1990272
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1990255
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1999928

Is there any sign Google will bring us a fix soon ?
I FREAKIN HATE IT

Well...
a) Wait a couple of weeks
b) Return to 4.1.2
c) Try using this guide to fix the lag.
d) Install custom ROMs and kernels until you are satisfied.

Tonttunator said:
Well...
a) Wait a couple of weeks
b) Return to 4.1.2
c) Try using this guide to fix the lag.
d) Install custom ROMs and kernels until you are satisfied.
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e) Make another thread about 4.2 tomorrow.

DAMN IT!!! another thread about the same .... This will never end. :banghead:

Dude it"s not my fault 4.2 is buggy just wanted to ask if anyone had a good fix. disabling sync I already did that from the first day!
Anyway I'm on CM 10 now.

Seems like lots of nexus 4 issues after rooting/custom ROM

I've been flashing ROMs for years on my devices, and my new nexus arrives in a couple of days, replacing my amazing Samsung Vibrant (currently whizzing along on a very fast and stable 4.2.1 build)..... hard to believe a phone that's coming on 3+ years old and was dropped by T-Mobile at Froyo!
Seems that folk's flashing custom ROMs/kernels are having a ton of issues, and my question is this.
If the concept of the nexus device is pure Google and the latest stable ROMs, why bother flashing half-baked ROMs that cause problems?
I would assume the nexus 4 has the latest 4.2.1 build and should be stable, no?
Just trying to figure out the advantages of flashing problematic custom ROMs when this phone gets tested, stable latest builds?
How can you possibly stay ahead of Google if this phone gets the latest update as soon as it's available?
Thanks, looking forward to joining the nexus 4 community.

Hello and welcome to the Nexus community.
People usually flash custom ROM not for latest build but latest features. Google might have latest builds going on with nexus line but there are many features that only custom ROM offers. For example, making a quick toggle actual toggle, not a quick shortcut.
Also custom ROM for nexus have been much more stable than other phones since nexus phones already is running stock android, which is very close to AOSP, developers don't need to do a lot of work for basic features.
With these being said, I'm sticking with stock rooted mainly because features custom Roms provide isn't really needed for me and definitely not worth losing a bit of stability. But everyone is different.
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kyokeun1234 said:
Hello and welcome to the Nexus community.
People usually flash custom ROM not for latest build but latest features. Google might have latest builds going on with nexus line but there are many features that only custom ROM offers. For example, making a quick toggle actual toggle, not a quick shortcut.
Also custom ROM for nexus have been much more stable than other phones since nexus phones already is running stock android, which is very close to AOSP, developers don't need to do a lot of work for basic features.
With these being said, I'm sticking with stock rooted mainly because features custom Roms provide isn't really needed for me and definitely not worth losing a bit of stability. But everyone is different.
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Cool, appreciate the reply.
I see you are running stock ROM, but custom kernel? Does the kernel help with improving battery life? I've read that the battery life on the nexus 4 is lack luster and will only get you through a day of average usage before needing a charge?
That will be the only thing that I will flash - kernels that improve smoothness of experience and increase battery life.
I recall the original Vibrant ROM's were good but battery was crap. Over time and with a very strong (still to this day) developer community, I'm getting a couple of days with average use....and that's on an old battery too!
I should get my phone delivered tomorrow, so am excited to see how it compares to my aging Vibrant (running HellyBean 4.2.1 and it's really very very fast).
Cheers!

Yes I am using Franco kernel because it gives me extra battery life while giving a smooth experience. Franco was smart enough to fix a problem that Google caused
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Does having TWRP and Stock ROM still allow OTA Google Updates?
kyokeun1234 said:
Yes I am using Franco kernel because it gives me extra battery life while giving a smooth experience. Franco was smart enough to fix a problem that Google caused
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I see that you have stock ROM but rooted with TWRP - I just completed this setup, despite being a little tricky as the auto downloads/updates from Wugfresh were not working (not an AV/Firewall issue - had them all turned off) so had to do a lot of manual install.
Anyway, my question is this:
If I stick with stock ROM and Franco Kernel, will I still get OTA updates from Google?
I'm not really interested in custom ROM's right now and would rather get the latest official from Google - I am assuming that is what you also want, hence emulating your setup.
Thanks.

Globespy said:
I see that you have stock ROM but rooted with TWRP - I just completed this setup, despite being a little tricky as the auto downloads/updates from Wugfresh were not working (not an AV/Firewall issue - had them all turned off) so had to do a lot of manual install.
Anyway, my question is this:
If I stick with stock ROM and Franco Kernel, will I still get OTA updates from Google?
I'm not really interested in custom ROM's right now and would rather get the latest official from Google - I am assuming that is what you also want, hence emulating your setup.
Thanks.
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Um as far as I know, technically yes, you will receive updates from Google. But I've heard that any modification can effect the update so I'm not expecting to use ota but I believe that great developers from xda will surely release a stock updated ROM with root and everything that you can flash on twrp. That's what I've been doing with galaxy nexus before using nexus 4
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I'm running the latest CM10.1 nightlies and have had no issues and great battery life.
My wife is running stock, unrooted with no issues and great battery life.
Keep in mind that it's the people with issues who are most vocal. I'm guessing that the majority have no problems either way.

Aosp is the same as stock. All nexus roms base on aosp plus officially supplied drivers. That means Google Android as you know it runs stable. Features on top of that are in development and that is what may cause some issues, but only if you use these features and only in their isolated scope. No one ever suffers from missing Wi-Fi, gps, Bluetooth, etc. I don't think i would put a rom on a non nexus device, the only reason i buy nexus is because it's an open platform and i can enjoy cool ideas and features.

In this case, should I update to 4.3?

Hi guys, I just got a Nexus 4, and its my first android smartphone. So my question is, should I update to 4.3 right now? I didn't installed any apps yet, cause I wanted to ask here before doing anything (I've been reading this forum since I ordered my Nexus). Is there any chance of a new update coming soon to fix the problems a lot of people are reporting here? If yes I think I should wait for it, but if not, should I update even with a lot of problems been reported?
Thx a lot

Yes I would probably go ahead update if I just the phone. There aren't a lot of problems with the new 4.3. Its just complicated for people to go from custom 4.2.2 ROM to 4.3.
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Thx I think I will update it then!

Be aware that there might be some issues between applications and android 4.3 still.

Luis_D1 said:
Be aware that there might be some issues between applications and android 4.3 still.
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Netflix is one of them with a nasty sleep of death. But its not a problem on 4.3 persay, its a problem with the developers and needing them to update.
Nexus = beta testers

I'm in the same boat, I've got a new Nexus 4 and I haven't updated yet due to the issues being raised. Is there any real concern about the batteries burning out or the Wifi being finicky?
I haven't done any customization, and if the only issue is that the apps aren't updated to work with 4.3, then that's not a real concern for me.

pcaston2 said:
I'm in the same boat, I've got a new Nexus 4 and I haven't updated yet due to the issues being raised. Is there any real concern about the batteries burning out or the Wifi being finicky?
I haven't done any customization, and if the only issue is that the apps aren't updated to work with 4.3, then that's not a real concern for me.
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I have been running 4.3 (first stock, then custom ROMs) for more than three weeks and have not seen any problems with wi-fi connectivity or battery overheating.

Nexus 7 (2012) Updated To Kitkat 4.4.2 but No Kitkat Wallpapers?

I purchased a 32GB 1st Generation Nexus 7 2 days ago. Upon purchase, i tested it on the store and it was already running Jellybean 4.3 and had a KitKat 4.4.2 ready to install. but i didn't flash it yet because i haven't paid for the item yet. i just tested itfor basic functions like if wifi works, charging works and stuff like that (i am quite experienced in android stuff, owning and having rooted an HTC Sensation XE, now running Team Venom's Vipers 5.0.0. but this ismy first tablet).:victory:
So upon getting home, i had the KitKat update installed. everything works fine, thankfully. no issues. Butone thing i noticed was, even when i had updated to kitkat, on my wallpapers, there is no KitKat wallpapers. Only those of Jellybean still. that's not a big problem though, but i just thought i might as well ask. because i was expecting wallpapers from settings will also be changed. is that normal?

ichigo_kurosaki said:
I purchased a 32GB 1st Generation Nexus 7 2 days ago. Upon purchase, i tested it on the store and it was already running Jellybean 4.3 and had a KitKat 4.4.2 ready to install. but i didn't flash it yet because i haven't paid for the item yet. i just tested itfor basic functions like if wifi works, charging works and stuff like that (i am quite experienced in android stuff, owning and having rooted an HTC Sensation XE, now running Team Venom's Vipers 5.0.0. but this ismy first tablet).:victory:
So upon getting home, i had the KitKat update installed. everything works fine, thankfully. no issues. Butone thing i noticed was, even when i had updated to kitkat, on my wallpapers, there is no KitKat wallpapers. Only those of Jellybean still. that's not a big problem though, but i just thought i might as well ask. because i was expecting wallpapers from settings will also be changed. is that normal?
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Hi, ichigo_kurosaki...
Normal I think.
I've just checked my own 16Mb 'grouper' Nexus 7, having recently flashed the KK4.4.2 OTA update... and it also only has the old Jellybean wallpapers.
I have my own substantial collection of wallpapers, so it's not something I'd normally check for... preferring instead to use my own.
The KitKat wallpapers are readily available online... not that I much care for any of them. Too bright and white for my decidedly dark and stygian tastes.
If you want them, just search for them in Google Images.
Rgrds,
Ged.

[Q] Anyone ditched KK for 4.3 or 4.2

Just curious to know how many have decided KitKat isn't for them on their Nexus 4s and gone back to a previous version of Android, be it 4.3 or 4.2?
Also, any particular reasons for moving away from KK?
Been on KK for a week or so but I do miss some of the customizations that more establish roms from previous versions offer such as theme engine and various tweaks. I appreciate some of the newer KK roms are getting there but it's still early days.
Thanks.

I switched back not because of the customizations. I am using complete stock. I switched back cuz its like a beta version. They said all the blue in UI will turn into white/gray but its stil blue. Just like a little part of the UI is like it should be. Kinda disappointed that its not done at 100%. Switched back to 4.3 and lovin' it.

I went back to 4.2 because I don't like the direction Google is taking. Now that Android has won the popularity vote, it seems Google is pushing forward more aggressively with its agenda, control.
Android was supposed to be about choices, yet I can no longer choose if I want to use talk instead of hangouts, AOSP browser instead of Chrome or other apps for example. You can no longer use HotSpot (T-Mobile user) unless you modify a db file. Things are being blocked or taken away while being forced into their ecosystem. Google plus, their recent youtube changes. Also instead of privacy being DEFAULT you have to dig deep into settings to enable it. The new Google caller ID while a nice idea, should be an option to enable not one that has automatically been selected for you. The whole agenda is to pry into your private information as much as possible AND make you feel comfortable doing so. But what ship can I jump to? iPhone? No thanks. Stop using smartphones? Not likely.. I guess for now my only option is using an older version of Android that is actually very functional.
Otherwise I do like the smoothness of KitKat, I'm just trying to choose the right ROM that brings back some of the old features with the new.
/sorry for the rant.

KitKat taste better than JellyBean.

What are you looking for as far as customization?

I am still running 4.2.2 on my Nexus 4, it has nothing to do with Kit Kat tho. I'm looking for a 4.4.2 rom that I'm comfortable with, but haven't found one yet. I don't do stock anything so that's out of the question. ?
Sent from my Nexus 7 (2013)

The sole reason for kitkat is art
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Kitkat is by far the smoothest Android version today imo, but still holding on to carbon 4.3 because of features and stability reasons. ?
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It is pretty clear when moving to KK that a lot of useful features have been taken away. Many more utilities need root access now to do things like control Airplane Mode or to read battery statistics. I'm sure Google will have some excuses around "security" but I just feel like the walls are closing in on Android. Also KK seems to have introduced more bugs than useful new features. I've had several irritating battery drain problems, partly due to stupid default settings but also to bugs. Seriously considering going back to 4.3 which was perfectly functional for everything I needed.

I stayed on 4.2.2 aokp milestone mostly because everything works perfectly fine without a bug. The only thing not letting me moving forward is the whole thing about using 1 default messaging app. For example i like the default messaging app but i need the quick send from chomp sms. No, i have to use only one. That's what's android is all about, ( the choice that you want to do with your device, if im gonna be taking all the good options away, then mind as well say go iPhone.

I had been using the stock rooted version of 4.4.2 for almost a week now and have been having trouble with the phone freezing up every few hours wherein none of the hardware buttons response. Need to restart the phone then
Not sure how many have been facing these issues
Now i m switching back to Carbon Rom again
maritimesbob said:
Just curious to know how many have decided KitKat isn't for them on their Nexus 4s and gone back to a previous version of Android, be it 4.3 or 4.2?
Also, any particular reasons for moving away from KK?
Been on KK for a week or so but I do miss some of the customizations that more establish roms from previous versions offer such as theme engine and various tweaks. I appreciate some of the newer KK roms are getting there but it's still early days.
Thanks.
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I'm waiting for a gingerbread ROM, best android version so far - but no ROMs for the nexus 4. Far faster than anything since.
If you're aware of one, please let me know.
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I'm on KK but I also feel that android(AOSP) is going in wrong direction: left side of home screen is Google now in gel, read somewhere and agree that it reminds like iPhone UI,
And all love for android is because is different than iOS, so im in doubt to downgrade, speed on jellybean is good for me and its smooth enough.
Greets
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andynx1 said:
I'm waiting for a gingerbread ROM, best android version so far - but no ROMs for the nexus 4. Far faster than anything since.
If you're aware of one, please let me know.
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It's not possible cause there are no drivers of N4 for gingerbread.
And kk is by far the best Android. I love the design, the features, the speed (ART). I haven't had any bug so far and I am using stock rooted. I think kk is the first of android revisions that's as smooth as ios or even better.

sandy-achar said:
It's not possible cause there are no drivers of N4 for gingerbread.
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Err, my "gingerbread" comment was meant as a joke.
Of course kk is the best yet, there's really no good reason not to use it. Unless you're a Luddite.
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andynx1 said:
Err, my "gingerbread" comment was meant as a joke.
Of course kk is the best yet, there's really no good reason not to use it. Unless you're a Luddite.
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LOL! That would be interesting tho.
Sent from my Nexus 7 (2013)

I can see why quite a few look at KitKat and think it a half baked product. It just doesn't seem quite complete, almost like it was rushed out in time for Christmas or something.
The wife has just had her KitKat OTA for her MotoG. She knows nothing about rooting and all the fun stuff, her phone is a phone! However she said she prefers it before the update as her battery life is much worse now. The MotoG comes with pretty much a clean Google rom.
I've tried KitKat again over the last week, but I'm going back to a 4.3 rom as it "feels" more complete if that makes sense.

maritimesbob said:
I can see why quite a few look at KitKat and think it a half baked product. It just doesn't seem quite complete, almost like it was rushed out in time for Christmas or something.
The wife has just had her KitKat OTA for her MotoG. She knows nothing about rooting and all the fun stuff, her phone is a phone! However she said she prefers it before the update as her battery life is much worse now. The MotoG comes with pretty much a clean Google rom.
I've tried KitKat again over the last week, but I'm going back to a 4.3 rom as it "feels" more complete if that makes sense.
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Rom's are a personal choice , my favorite right up until jellybean was Ginger bread and to be honest I wasn't overly impressed with KK.
However apart from Google trying to undo what android is about .
I can honestly say my battery life and general running is far better on kk and I really like it now.
Wouldn't think about returning to JB.
I missed network indicators and hated hangouts but after searching and fixing my dislikes I now believe my phone has never been this smooth , good looking and battery friendly.
Again its a personal choice but with a little searching and modding I think you can get good results on KK.
Phone : Nexus 4 /Rom : cataclysm / Kernel : Stock.

I'm happy with KK it looks nicer, but in saying so it doesn't feel complete but I guess that's why with have devs coding awesome ROMs to add anything they think is missing. For example... I'm running the latest 4.4 AOKP and at the moment its almost like a stock ROM with only a few features and tweaks. But in time everything we know and love from AOKP will be added. So all in all at the moment I think its just a waiting game while developers work their magic.
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chicohonda91 said:
I stayed on 4.2.2 aokp milestone mostly because everything works perfectly fine without a bug. The only thing not letting me moving forward is the whole thing about using 1 default messaging app. For example i like the default messaging app but i need the quick send from chomp sms. No, i have to use only one. That's what's android is all about, ( the choice that you want to do with your device, if im gonna be taking all the good options away, then mind as well say go iPhone.
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Have you even tried Kitkat? You can still use the default messaging app or any other sms app. When you first boot up Kitkat, by default hangout is a messaging app but you can change it. Hangouts > Settings > SMS > SMS Enabled > Default SMS app > Choose any other sms app you prefer.