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Beeing using the Nexus s I9020T with ICS for a while now, tought i share what i think of them working together. this is not a technical review with scores and such so please don't expect such information here. in fact i'm not going to mention any of the developers, kernel or ROM names here.
Background
Had Nexus one, when the Nexus S arrived i sold it and bought the NS.
I really liked the N1 and it was not easy to let it go, i liked how it felt in my hand and it was a good device... anyway... i tried many roms (almost any ROM and Kernel that were available at that time) with the N1, and then with the NS. these two devices had almost any ROM flashed to them day and night.
Almost there
at the beginning there was no official ICS rom for the NS nor even a full SDK source
but some PORTS where around so i had to try them out.
liked the way it looks but that's it. no stability, many bugs. not for daily use... not even for a night use. going from one build to another didn't make any difference. for example: none of the PORTS managed to activate the Bluetooth device. there was a missing driver (binary) and none of the developers managed to overcome the problem.
ICS SDK
At first a full SDK was released. Builds were a bit better but not enough.
still couldn't use it every day and always had to go back to 2.3.7
at this point i thought: "well i guess i'l have to wait for google to release an official OTA update and then i'll see some real action right ?"
well that was not just a thought but more like logic with a bit of knowing how google usually works. i thought that when google will release an official version for the NS it will probably run smoother because it will have hardware acceleration and google will put a new kernel, and they will make sure it runs well
ICS OTA
"What a great day" i stupidly thought to myself. "finally a new version for my device" i was so stupidly proud (like i made this phone or something) anyway...
i just went from smiling to almost crying ... "Thats it ?" i yelled at it (my NS) "Is that all you got ? What is going on here ? is this for real ? it can't be ... the update.zip file must be fake ! (didn't really think it was a fake...) it can't be it ? this is it ? this is ICS ? slow,unresponsive,slow,and slow ? that's all there is ? and in addition to that it was very very slow...
"ICS Roms"
Used all custom ICS roms available and any tweaked kernel that i found. yet,
still too slow for me...
my current Rom and kernel are the fastest i could find and don't get me wrong it is stable,no bugs and i use it daily. but after using gingerbread for so long, i guess i got use to the speed too much, after using it for a week, i'm starting to get use to it i can't say that it is great for me now... but i'm not giving up !
Calling All Devs
Hopefully we will start seeing some tweaked kernel and optimized custom roms soon. for now my NS will rest ... just for now...
http://youtu.be/EF3Al_HxYdc?hd=1
Hello Guys
It has just arrived the Iconia I ordered, this my first non chinesse tablet. And Id like to juicy it the most. BUt I have doubts and I hop eyou can help me.
THe device says it has an update, currently is running Android 3.01. SHould I go to the stock update? Or would be preferable to go with a custom rom.
I've been reading that stock rom makes the table a little unstable and that the Lightspeed ROM is one of the best by now, but Im not sure what to pick or if there's other ROM stable, so I ask before doing something I might regret later.
I will use the tablet as a regular guy plus I want to stream videos from my PC.
Thank you for reading this.
I got mine around January. Then ICS wasn't an option, but I remember it being somewhat sluggish. After the ICS update I was happy at the speed increase but it still came in a distant second to just using my laptop. About a week ago I finally installed a custom ROM (reflexxx). Since then I've barely turned on my laptop and the responsiveness continues to impress me. I can't imagine jelly bean or a tegra 3 being much faster. Granted, I really only browse the web, email, and a few news apps. Upgrading to a custom ROM was the best thing to happen to my a500. I can't speak for the lightspeed ROM, but if its anything like reflexxx, you will be much happier with it them stock.
is this th eone youare talking?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1517181&highlight=thor
Dear Anthony, something I dont understand of your post is:
if you actually did first the stock update to ICS and then to reflex. Am I right?
seriestv said:
Dear Anthony, something I dont understand of your post is:
if you actually did first the stock update to ICS and then to reflex. Am I right?
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yes and yes. Mostly because that was just the natural order of things, but, and dont quote me on this, I think it will be easiest for you to do the same. Honeycomb has different bootloaders and things. Upgrading to stock ICS first, I believe, will make going to a ICS ROM slightly easier and remove a step or two.
Provided you read the directions, I really can't see how you'd be upset with a custom ROM. I used afterOTA to unlock my bootloader, then installed the ROM using the standard CWM method.
THank you so much for your help sir Anthony
One more thing: Did you used the Reflex or FLEXREAPER-RELIX_rev5 ANDROID 4.0.3 ?
seriestv said:
THank you so much for your help sir Anthony
One more thing: Did you used the Reflex or FLEXREAPER-RELIX_rev5 ANDROID 4.0.3 ?
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I went with reflexxx, only because its based on 4.0.4, and I'm of the stupid consumer mindset that newer us always better.
Anthony820 said:
I got mine around January. Then ICS wasn't an option, but I remember it being somewhat sluggish. After the ICS update I was happy at the speed increase but it still came in a distant second to just using my laptop. About a week ago I finally installed a custom ROM (reflexxx). Since then I've barely turned on my laptop and the responsiveness continues to impress me. I can't imagine jelly bean or a tegra 3 being much faster. Granted, I really only browse the web, email, and a few news apps. Upgrading to a custom ROM was the best thing to happen to my a500. I can't speak for the lightspeed ROM, but if its anything like reflexxx, you will be much happier with it them stock.
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Run stock ics absolute ota no root. See how good it is. Then when you change roms you can see what it screwed up.
Hi guys,
Havent been on here for a long long while. Just bought a tab 2 as i was frustrated with the ipad. I have no idea where to start though with customsations etc.
Will need to root it i know, but can someone recommend a clean and smooth rom? dont want to flash it too much. Just general use really, transfer docs, browsing etc would ideally like something with flash still capable, but speed and smoothness is the most important thing for me.
Any advice would be appreciated.
many thanks
Aokp build 4 or cm10 from www.teamhacksung.org
I use cm10 as more updates but aokp is more customizable
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Try CM9 it works very well without glitches in CM10. I try all the roms and end up back on cm9 every time.
Good luck
bark777 said:
Try CM9 it works very well without glitches in CM10. I try all the roms and end up back on cm9 every time.
Good luck
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Other than a problem introduced by myself, I haven't had any problems with the AOSP JB builds.
go to the android development forum, read up the stickies first
you have 7 inch or 10.1 ?
root
flash may not be available on jb
AOKP build 4 , much more control over the ROM than say CM9/10. You choose what you want and how you want it. AOKP is more suited to the tab IMO as CyanogenMod has to cater for much more devices. Constant builds and updates. Id say AOKP is for advanced users :laugh:
If you like to twiddle with your devices thats the ROM for you.If you dont , then go for CM10.
If your not that bothered go for AOSP Loads of ROMs to choose from , no way of saying the "best" as it dosent exist. Its a personal choice and to be honest they are all pretty much the samething, just some slighty more customisable than others.
If you want a "Stock" experience go for anything that "RomsWell" builds as its generally stable and all the bloat/crap has been removed.
Search the forums for your specific device and check out the official threads for each ROM. If you don't know what to do ASK in the threads and people will help you out no problems as we are all mostly friendly and helpful to each other.
First thing you should be thinking about is do you want "root" access ( full control over the ROM) ? Search for your device and make sure you understand what's to be done and you have to correct tools to do it. Read it again, you be surprised how many people mess it up and then make posts for help lol.
Once you are more confident with Android , try all the ROMs out , wont cost you a penny and you can see for yourself then but say good bye to your warranty as it will be void as soon as you mess with your tab. If you read up on things you wont have any problems at all.
Good luck and have fun.
Not my thread but this is a good post above. Im a new user just reading and learning and this sort of post helps me alot.
Thank you
We all start somewhere and its what the forums for , So I'm glad to help.
Thanks :highfive:
No need to root, I've rooted the crap out of my phones, but have never felt the need to do the same with my tab2. And It's perfectly fine.
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I agree with the above commenter.
Usually I root all of my devices, but with the Tab2 I haven't felt the need to.
To be honest I have quite a few of the different Home Replacement Apps and haven't even installed one of them on it.
Runs great out of the box! Just download a few apps to get you started!
One thing I did have to do though is a full hard reset after a few days of owning it, as it was buggy and slow, but ever since I did that, it has been perfect!
I can't wait to see the progress that the official JB release brings!
The only reason i root mine is because of pdroid, feels naked without it
Hello,
I just would like to share my experience of moving from the stock 4.1.2 Jelly Bean to the CM10 release, mostly for people who are still using stock 4.1.2 because I couldn't find such a thread before jumping to CM10.
I installed the 5th November nightly release of CM10 as the more recent ones (including the "stable" release) have an annoying problem : the Play Store reports some incompatibilities with apps which were working fine with the stock 4.1.2. It seems that this problem is due to the lack of free memory with the newest CM10 releases ...
The 11/05 CM10 was the last one with no Play Store problems, you can download it here for the Wingray :
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2383656/cm-10-20121105-NIGHTLY-wingray.zip
EDIT : on the 6th December, I updated my Xoom from the 11/05 nightly to the 12/05 nightly, and so far I still didn't have the Play Store compatibility issue, which means the problem has been solved in between these two releases ...
Performances :
I must admit that I didn't think it was possible that a custom ROM was better optimized than the one made by Google itself ...
I was very happy with the fluidity of the stock 4.1.2, but when I used CM10 for the first time, I tried some websites known to be a bit laggy with the stock browser, and they were just close to perfect about fluidity with CM10 ! I couldn't find a laggy website with stock browser yet ... These tests were not involving overclocking.
So I then ran Quadrant and had a score of 2800, where I had 1900 with stock 4.1.2 ... !
I then overclocked the Xoom to 1,5 GHZ, and Quadrant reported a score of 4100, about equal to the Transformer Prime !
I don't really play with my Xoom but I tried to play to GTA III, and when overclocked, compared to the stock 4.1.2, I could put a lot more graphical details with a better fluidity. I really felt like using a whole new device. But most of the time I don't use overclocking as I want to save my battery life, and the overall fluidity of the Xoom running CM10 at 1GHz is very good.
A few people reported they found a performances increase with the very last nightly release. However, as it still have some compatibility problems with the Play Store, I will not jump on it.
I don't know if Cyanogen will try to solve this incompatibility issue as it maybe related to the Gapps taking too much storage space, and Cyanogen does not support Gapps ...
Updates :
I choosed a Cyanogen rom (instead of EOS) because with this one you can easily update to newer ROM release very easily, without the need to connect your Xoom to the PC, and without loosing datas : CM10 includes an update manager which proceeds just like an official Google OTA ! That's just perfect to me, I'm not sure if this does also exist on EOS, I couldn't find any informations about this.
So I have the feeling that my Xoom is still supported and updated, which is very good. Thanks a million to Cyanogen team !
Bugs :
I couldn't find bugs yet on the 11/05 release, I just had an unexpected reboot the very first time I used it, only after 5 minutes of use. Since then, I never had this problem again (3 days with no reboots for now).
Features :
I didn't try all of them yet, but there are plenty of cool features :
- overclocking ability with multiple policies possible to save battery life for exemple, or for the best performances all the time.
- other performances tweaks about RAM like "KSM" use, and some other parameters which allow better performances but lowering the battery life.
- root of course !
- the ability to light the charging LED, even when your Xoom is powered on.
- many many others, some I didn't tried/discovered yet.
So I am very happy now with CM10, and I would like to thanks Cyanogen again about this excellent work !
I would recommand to any stock 4.1.2 users to jump on to CM10, the Xoom will just be running better then !
Here is the link which explains how to jump to a Cyanogen ROM :
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/wiki/Mo...de#Installing_the_ClockworkMod_Recovery_Image
Have fun !
TeamEOS has all the features you mentioned and you can update it easily as well. Don't need a computer, they use GooManager. In short they are both good ROMs, there is nothing to dislike about both of those ROMs, both teams have putted a lot of effort into optimising the XOOM and adding functions/features. It's all up to user preference, with CM ROMs I get random reboots, while TeamEOS I don't get any of that.
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TeamEOS has all the features you mentioned and you can update it easily as well. Don't need a computer, they use GooManager. In short they are both good ROMs, there is nothing to dislike about both of those ROMs, both teams have putted a lot of effort into optimising the XOOM and adding functions/features. It's all up to user preference, with CM ROMs I get random reboots, while TeamEOS I don't get any of that.
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How polished is the root/rom procedure for the Xoom? I came from the Transformer world and it was pretty well dialed in..not a lot of monkeying around or knowledge required.
What's the easiest way to get root and a custom rom?
rpavich said:
How polished is the root/rom procedure for the Xoom? I came from the Transformer world and it was pretty well dialed in..not a lot of monkeying around or knowledge required.
What's the easiest way to get root and a custom rom?
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Idk, never rooted or used a Asus tablet. Once the Xoom is unlocked and rooted you really have no need for a PC unless you use fastboot & adb to flash, push, pull, etc.....
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Chaosgod27 said:
TeamEOS has all the features you mentioned and you can update it easily as well. Don't need a computer, they use GooManager. In short they are both good ROMs, there is nothing to dislike about both of those ROMs, both teams have putted a lot of effort into optimising the XOOM and adding functions/features. It's all up to user preference, with CM ROMs I get random reboots, while TeamEOS I don't get any of that.
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Definitely. I've used both ROMs, but struggled with SOD's on EOS Stable and lag on the nightlies! CM10 solved both of these issues for me. Both ROMs are full of features and and a no brainer compared with stock.
Regards.
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Definitely. I've used both ROMs, but struggled with SOD's on EOS Stable and lag on the nightlies! CM10 solved both of these issues for me. Both ROMs are full of features and and a no brainer compared with stock.
Regards.
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Thanks a lot, that's interesting. I was more and more thinking about trying the EOS ROM, but I was too lazy about reinstalling all my softwares and data ...
What do you mean by "SOD" ?
It's very interesting to have the feedbacks of people having tried both custom ROMs, it would be cool if some other people could give their opinion.
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It's very interesting to have the feedbacks of people having tried both custom ROMs, it would be cool if some other people could give their opinion.
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i have not tried EOS yet. CM10 runs absolutely flawless. I got a good 14hrs -/+ on the battery playing Deadzone, watching movings, browsing the net, skyping with my kids and I still have 28% left today. No OC. Having full R/W access to the External Sdcard is great. I now can Dropsync my folders from my Dropbox to the card for a quick handy on the go backup
EOS from what i have heard has some great features.....i will need to backup and give it a go here soon.
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rpavich said:
How polished is the root/rom procedure for the Xoom? I came from the Transformer world and it was pretty well dialed in..not a lot of monkeying around or knowledge required.
What's the easiest way to get root and a custom rom?
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Yes it's very easy, considering this is a google experience device all you really have to do is unlock it, flash in recovery and then using recovery flash in another ROM. You should have zero problems at all, considering the bootloader is unlocked.
Can anyone please tell me if one of the december CM10 nightly did solve the Play Store incompatibility problem ?
Thanks !
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Can anyone please tell me if one of the december CM10 nightly did solve the Play Store incompatibility problem ?
Thanks !
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No need to ask this question almost everywhere.......I have not experienced any market issues.....
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cdexsw said:
No need to ask this question almost everywhere.......I have not experienced any market issues.....
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as long as you will not entirely answer my questions, I will still ask it, and I'm free to do it !
Yes you don't have this problem now, thanks for this information, but did you have this problem before ?
If you never had this problem, this means you may not be using the CM10 Gapps but the EOS one, or you just didn't realize that you actually have a compatibility issue with the Play Store ... It's easy, check the application named "eye in sky weather", if the store says that it's not compatible with your device, it means that you're facing the compatibility issue as this application is in fact compatible with the Xoom. Of course this problem is not only for this application, there are many others which are reported as not compatible ...
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as long as you will not entirely answer my questions, I will still ask it, and I'm free to do it !
Yes you don't have this problem now, thanks for this information, but did you have this problem before ?
If you never had this problem, this means you may not be using the CM10 Gapps but the EOS one, or you just didn't realize that you actually have a compatibility issue with the Play Store ... It's easy, check the application named "eye in sky weather", if the store says that it's not compatible with your device, it means that you're facing the compatibility issue as this application is in fact compatible with the Xoom. Of course this problem is not only for this application, there are many others which are reported as not compatible ...
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I am using the latest nightly. In fact i have used all the December nightlies with no issues.
As far as gapps, i have used that lastest gapps 4.1.2 and i have tried gapps 4.2+. I used the gapps posted in the link on first page of this thread both packages i have experienced no issues, market is working fine, no incompatibilities.
As far as my comment about aking your questions.....ask in one place....no need to ask your question in every forum are start a new thread.....i was not being rude, it is in the forums rules.......
Good luck.....
Also, check your dpi settings....that will cause market issues. Search the forums & google the fix is simple...
Also try manual installing an older marker version or try or KDH 4.2 gapps.
These are all solutions to your issue(s). No one else may try and answer you question because they are not having or no longer have these issues.......what i posted above are the steps to fix the issue.
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Thanks for these informations, I'll check this. But for now I have no problems with the market as I am using the 11/05 release. The problem came after this release and was known to be due to a free memory issue (check my first post of this thread). That's why I was asking if a recent release of CM10 did solve this problem.
EDIT : I just jumped from 11/05 nightly to 12/05, and I still have no problems with the Play Store, which means the Play Store compatibility problem has been solved in between these two releases ... Great news !
Thanks
Thanks man, that's what I needed to migrate, a good experience report.
I heard about incompatibilities, also that some apps won't work, but I can manage that. I'm now going to make a backup of my things and this weekend I want to install CM10. The main problem now is the backup, since I have a lot of things on it, both the internal memory and SD are quite full. XD
The most surprising thing is that I could not find any report about this bug correction, which was a very annoying bug, but I could find plenty of threads talking about this problem and trying to find workaround solutions ... None of them reported this bug does not exist anymore ...
Similar ROM experiences...
Chaosgod27 said:
TeamEOS has all the features you mentioned and you can update it easily as well. Don't need a computer, they use GooManager. In short they are both good ROMs, there is nothing to dislike about both of those ROMs, both teams have putted a lot of effort into optimising the XOOM and adding functions/features. It's all up to user preference, with CM ROMs I get random reboots, while TeamEOS I don't get any of that.
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I had similar random rebooting issues using the CM9 ROMs on my tablet which is why I use Team EOS. Both ROMs do have similar features and it comes down to user preference and which UI you prefer.. but BOTH are quality software and greatly appreciated!
Hi guys, I just got a Nexus 4, and its my first android smartphone. So my question is, should I update to 4.3 right now? I didn't installed any apps yet, cause I wanted to ask here before doing anything (I've been reading this forum since I ordered my Nexus). Is there any chance of a new update coming soon to fix the problems a lot of people are reporting here? If yes I think I should wait for it, but if not, should I update even with a lot of problems been reported?
Thx a lot
Yes I would probably go ahead update if I just the phone. There aren't a lot of problems with the new 4.3. Its just complicated for people to go from custom 4.2.2 ROM to 4.3.
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Thx I think I will update it then!
Be aware that there might be some issues between applications and android 4.3 still.
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Be aware that there might be some issues between applications and android 4.3 still.
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Netflix is one of them with a nasty sleep of death. But its not a problem on 4.3 persay, its a problem with the developers and needing them to update.
Nexus = beta testers
I'm in the same boat, I've got a new Nexus 4 and I haven't updated yet due to the issues being raised. Is there any real concern about the batteries burning out or the Wifi being finicky?
I haven't done any customization, and if the only issue is that the apps aren't updated to work with 4.3, then that's not a real concern for me.
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I'm in the same boat, I've got a new Nexus 4 and I haven't updated yet due to the issues being raised. Is there any real concern about the batteries burning out or the Wifi being finicky?
I haven't done any customization, and if the only issue is that the apps aren't updated to work with 4.3, then that's not a real concern for me.
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I have been running 4.3 (first stock, then custom ROMs) for more than three weeks and have not seen any problems with wi-fi connectivity or battery overheating.