Nexus 10 versus Samsung tab 2 10" - Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
A friend just bought me a Samsung tab 2 in Oregon for $279, no tax there apparently. I ordered a nexus 10 for $444 including tax in California and I'm awaiting its arrival. He says the nexus 10 is not worth it - maybe iPad envy My gut tells me to keep the nexus once I get it. Anyone with experience with both tablets willing to share your thoughts?
By the way, this will be my first tablet so I won't know any better.
Thanks...
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I've not used the Tab 2 10" much... but I can say the Nexus 10 is definitely better... the display is absolutely gorgeous and the stereo speakers are much better... the CPU/GPU combo is way better IMHO... but the biggest advantage of Nexus devices is they will always get updates first and will be supported with updates for considerably longer...

Between using the Tab 2 10.1 and Nexus 10 is a night and day experience.
The ghosting/lag/etc present on the Tab 2 switching pages in the app drawer/home screen makes the baby Jesus cry. Briefly owned the tab 2, was not a fan, returned it due to the not being a fan of the inherent lag, debating the Asus T700 then I saw the Nexus 10 announcement.
Got my paws on the Nexus 10 and have been much happier.

I switched to a N10 from a tab 2 and couldn't be happier. The difference between the two is night and day. Touch wiz has a few nice features and widgets but it kills performance and reliability. I've never used a non android device that wasn't riddled with reliability and performance issues. Google's own devices don't always spec out high on paper but there's a reason people clamor for them.
Among some of my issues: touch wiz always lagged, the browser crashed constantly, widgets crashed and froze the tablet with them, and the keyboard was so laggy it was unusable. The only thing it has going for it was amazing battery life and accessories.

Thanks you for the replies. I received mine yesterday surprisingly at 5 pm when I came home even though they sent my tracking number at 4:06 pm the same day.. strange, but I'm thankful I have it now. I love it so far!
If anyone else is interested in the comparisons, I ran across these three reviews...
http://tablets.techcrunch.com/compare/157-167/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-2-10-1-vs-Samsung-Nexus-10
http://sortable.com/tablets/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-2-10.1-vs-Google-Nexus-10
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-2-10.1,Google-Nexus-10/phones/7535,7551
These helped me along with the above 3 user feedbacks..
Thanks again!
Now, I have to see what's a good case for it
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Nexus 10 or TF300

I really like the nexus 10 and I know this forum may be a little bias, but I am debating selling my tf300 with dock for a nexus 10.... thoughts/opinions welcome!
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Depends on what you really need. I had the infinity and the nexus 10 is miles ahead of it in my opinion.
300 pros:
-Keyboard dock with extended battery
-Expandable storage
-Insanely fast charging times
Cons:
-Slow I/o
-Rear speaker
-Tegra 3 (if you want to count this..)
Nexus 10 pros:
-Screen
-Battery (not comparing it to the Asus+dock)
-Front speakers
-Insanely fast
Cons:
-Slow battery charging (6 hours on full)
-Some games run slow due to the amount of pixels to push plus not yet optimized for the N10.
-No expandable storage
In the end it boils down to what you need, but I love my N10 and am not sugar coating it in any way. I tried the tf300 first, returned that for a 700. Decided I'd compare it to a note 10.1 and returned both and got the N10.
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Great info..thanks...
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Any other thoughts? My biggest issue with thw tf300 has been the web browsing, but thats not really anything new.
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cdrshm said:
Any other thoughts? My biggest issue with thw tf300 has been the web browsing, but thats not really anything new.
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Define issue with web browsing? Do you mean laginess or sluggidhness? If so the n10 has none. It loads web sites very fast and has no touch or input lag via on screen keyboard.
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Any other thoughts? My biggest issue with thw tf300 has been the web browsing, but thats not really anything new.
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I'll let you know. I currently use the TF300 (stock), but am annoyed with the sluggishness concerning web browsing, e-mail, etc. My Nexus 10 is coming tomorrow. Hopefully it will be better.
Although I must say that I was reading about the Boat Browser somewhere on these XDA forums, and I had never heard of this browser before. I installed it a couple of days ago and it definitely improves the browsing experience on the TF300. Give it a try.
duarian said:
Define issue with web browsing? Do you mean laginess or sluggidhness? If so the n10 has none. It loads web sites very fast and has no touch or input lag via on screen keyboard.
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Yes the laginess or slugginess... it has gotten better since the past few updates, but not what it should be....I am hoping i can get $400 for my 32GB tf300 with keyboard dock and a 16GB micro sd card and bluetooth mouse
I really beleive the nexus 10 is the better device...
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ualdriver said:
I'll let you know. I currently use the TF300 (stock), but am annoyed with the sluggishness concerning web browsing, e-mail, etc. My Nexus 10 is coming tomorrow. Hopefully it will be better.
Although I must say that I was reading about the Boat Browser somewhere on these XDA forums, and I had never heard of this browser before. I installed it a couple of days ago and it definitely improves the browsing experience on the TF300. Give it a try.
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I am very curious to hear your thoughts.... I have used Boat Browser, in fact i think i have tried them all.. ill have to see if i can find some youtube videos of web browsing....
cdrshm
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Take this for what its worth....I am a geek and have had 5 different tablets over the past few years. The loved my tf101 w dock...I absolutely loved my transformer . I skipped the prime, my tf101 was still rockin....my transformer died and I saved up the money for the infinity tf700 with dock. I absolutely hated it. It was like there was always something slowing it down and it made me think I just had a bad unit. Did some research and found out that after the prime Asus had a bit of an io issue with the memory , the infinity inherited the issue.
Got my nexus on Thursday and I love it like I loved my transformer compared to a gtab ....the difference between the nexus and the infinity are like daylight and dark. I also have to say its really badass having aosp in a perfect state...no cm or akop issues....love cm love akop but you all know what I mean. My point is...I love this tab compared to the infinity...screen is beautiful , proc is next gen, and jb4.2 is smooth as butter on this device...so many little things cleaned up, this may be the best android version yet.
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cdrshm said:
I really like the nexus 10 and I know this forum may be a little bias, but I am debating selling my tf300 with dock for a nexus 10.... thoughts/opinions welcome!
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If storage is your main concern, stick with the TF300, or better yet upgrade to the TF700. If it isn't, upgrade to Nexus 10. I came from a TF700 and the difference is staggering. Screen is much nicer, sound is much louder (and stereo placement!!!).
I've also owned the original Transformer, the Galaxy Tab 10.1 (still one of best tablet designs hands down), the Prime and only the GT10.1 comes close to the Nexus 10 in terms of build quality (I wonder why ).
I'd recommend the TF300 over the TF700 for a few reasons, and neither over the N10.
Why the TF300 over the 700? It's less expensive, it's far more comfortable to use for long periods thanks to the not-sexy but also not-stupid plastic construction, more resistant to wear and abuse as a result, and it's not trying to whip a Tegra 3 into running 1080p resolution it is not suited for.
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If storage is your main concern, stick with the TF300, or better yet upgrade to the TF700. If it isn't, upgrade to Nexus 10. I came from a TF700 and the difference is staggering. Screen is much nicer, sound is much louder (and stereo placement!!!).
I've also owned the original Transformer, the Galaxy Tab 10.1 (still one of best tablet designs hands down), the Prime and only the GT10.1 comes close to the Nexus 10 in terms of build quality (I wonder why ).
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I am not concerned about storage at all, just performance and beauty.... I have tried to put my tf300 in the marketplace but don't have rights, anyone know who I need to talk too?
Thanks
Cdrshm
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I'd recommend the TF300 over the TF700 for a few reasons, and neither over the N10.
Why the TF300 over the 700? It's less expensive, it's far more comfortable to use for long periods thanks to the not-sexy but also not-stupid plastic construction, more resistant to wear and abuse as a result, and it's not trying to whip a Tegra 3 into running 1080p resolution it is not suited for.
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For me its either keep the tf300 or sell for the nexus 10
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Anyone have an idea of what to sell my 32gb tf300 with dock and 16gb micro sd? Mint condition!!
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Anyone have an idea of what to sell my 32gb tf300 with dock and 16gb micro sd? Mint condition!!
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I'm selling my TF300 today on eBay. I put a couple of other TF300s on my watch list just to see what they were going for. It looks like the tablet is going for the low to mid $200's. I don't know about the keyboard as I don't have one so didn't put it on the watch list. Also, if you decide to sell yours before Monday, eBay is doing a deal where if you sell an item through the eBay mobile app, you can sell it for free.
I played with the Nexus 10 for about an hour or so this morning. My initial impressions are that it is very zippy compared to the TF300. I remember first getting the TF300 and turning it on. All my apps starting downloading in the background automatically and while they were downloading and installing, the TF300 got really slow and laggy. With the Nexus 10, it was doing all that downloading and installing in the background and it was still silky smooth.
Overall, it's a much better device. The screen is obviously sharper. It is very quick to switch screens, cycle through apps, etc. If there's any lag, I couldn't perceive it. Browsing with the Boat and Chrome browsers is definitely zippier. When you scroll down a page, especially one with pictures, you can tell it just scrolls much more smoothly. I never saw that annoying "waiting for the browser to respond" which I normally saw at least once or twice per hour on the TF300. Anyway, that's all I've really done with it. I only use it for browsing and e-mail (I don't game on tablets), and for those purposes it is definitely a nicer, smoother machine than the TF300- which should be expected for its price and the advance in technology over the older device.
Stay away from Asus and the Transformer line. I'm telling you. They don't know how to write software, and they don't support their devices. I gladly sold my TF201 for the N10 and it was the best decision I've made. You've been warned.
I had the TF700 and was very disappointed. The i/o power just wasn't there. Most noticeable on web browsing - major lag. I sold it and so far I am quite happy with the Nexus 10 performance.
I had a TF700T / Infinity for close to 2 months -- just returned it this morning to Best Buy (reward zone silver -- 60 days to decide). I went back and forth on this a lot before returning it. My Infinity and dock didn't have any of the build issues that some have described -- no creaking, no screen lift, etc. The overall build seemed excellent, and overall the Infinity looks and feels like an incredible premium device. I also really liked the expandable storage and the extra battery power in the dock, and it really has a great display. When it worked, it was sweet -- but I ran into frequent lags, browser freeze-ups, slow app updates and file transfers, etc. I knew it was possible to unlock, root and flash a custom ROM to get better performance -- but I really didn't want to HAVE to do that just to make the device usable, especially since the combination of tablet and dock cost me about $650.
Reading through the TF700 sub forums, it seemed that about half the users had good experience using NvFlash and custom ROMs, but a significant number of folks reported frozen devices, boot loops, etc -- more than I'm used to seeing in most XDA sub forums. It seems to me that the device really wasn't intended to be easily flashable -- and easily recoverable in the event of issues. If I'm going to be flashing custom ROMs to my tablet, I'd rather it be a device sold with this in mind. Having used a Nexus phone (Galaxy Nexus) for the past year, I can attest to the fact that it's virtually impossible to brick this beyond the ability to wipe and start over. I appreciate this about Nexus devices.
I wish the Nexus 10 had expandable memory, and it would be nice if a pogo pin based charger option would be sold soon. Despite this, everything I read convinced me to return my Infinity today and order a Nexus 10.
Well it seems pretty unanimous for the nexus 10, as expected!!! I took the first steps and sold my tf300, now just trying to sell the keyboard dock. I am stoked about getting the nexus 10. Cant wait for it to be back in stock... thanks again for all the great info and personal experience!
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jonstrong said:
Despite this, everything I read convinced me to return my Infinity today and order a Nexus 10.
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Where did you order yours from?
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[Q] Is the Nexus 7 the best tablet out right now?

Cnet.com voted the Nexus 7 as their best holiday gift idea. It beat out the iPad Mini, which came in at number two:
http://cnettv.cnet.com/ultimate-gift-list-cnet-top-10-tech-ideas/9742-1_53-50135472.html
This guy over at forbes also thinks its the best gift to give (he actually cites the Cnet special as well):
http://www.forbes.com/sites/taesiky...y-season-and-why-its-not-good-news-for-apple/
I've only had mine for a week. So far I love it. Can't say its the best since I haven't played around with many others. I'd like to take the Nexus 10 for a test drive. Still, for the money, I can't think of anything better. What do you guys think?
I've had mine since August. It's my fifth tablet and by far my favorite.
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I've had mine since August. It's my fifth tablet and by far my favorite.
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Five!? Wow. What were the others and what makes this one so much better if I may ask?
I have a viewsonic g-tablet, and a transformer prime. They collect dust since I got the nexus7.
It's mainly size that makes it much more useable then those 10" tablets. Take it with me everywhere, its better for gaming also due to the size.
For the hardware and price, it really can't be beat.
I started with a 16gb on pre-order. Then they announced the 32gb. So I bought myself one of those. The girlfriend is getting my old 16gb, and I picked up another 32gb for my mom for the holidays for 229.
Really can't go wrong.
May I ask where you got the 32 for 229$
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I had a Acer a500 10" tablet before my nexus 7. I'd have to charge it about once a week, maybe not even that. My nexus 7, I have to charge about every 2 days. Noo, this isn't about battery life. Its that I can't put my nexus 7 down! I can't believe how enjoyable this device is to use. I thought I was taking a step backwards with going to a smaller screen. I was wrong. I love my nexus 7 and I use this thing everyday. Its amazing and for $200, you can't beat it. My gf loves my nexus 7 and always wants to use it. In fact she wanted jewelry for Christmas but now she wants a nexus 7 lol
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candyeve said:
May I ask where you got the 32 for 229$
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I actually got it from Adorama but it was a cyber monday thing on ebay.. But I've seen a few people in the whos is shipping thread stickied at the top getting similar prices since.
At that price, it was a great deal. I totalled up the 16gb from the play store, with tax and shipping it would have come to 230 something. And I got the 32gb for 229 with no tax and free shipping.
Had an I pad 1 and a Kindle Fire and by far this thing is my favorite tablet to date. Just works!
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By far and away the best tablet on the market right now
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Best tablet for 200 dollars Imo
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Best 7" Tablet and probably best tablet for the price.
If you want a larger tablet, then obviously there are probably better choices out there, but they cost more $$.
After watching Cnet top 10 gifts this year. I can see why the Nexus 7 made it to the #1 spot this year.
In the area where I'm living you won't find the Nexus 7 16GB model anywhere within a 50 mile range in any stores. Cause they are flying out of the door faster then they can get them. The stores in my area still had like four 32GB model of the Nexus 7 still. Least that what they had when I called them asking how many they had. That was three days ago when I bought my Nexus 7.
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Five!? Wow. What were the others and what makes this one so much better if I may ask?
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Nook Color, Nook Tablet, Samsung Galaxy Tab, Asus TF300 and Nexus 7.
The Nooks were crippled with old versions of Android and had to be hacked to be made useful. The Galaxy Tab had Touchwiz over Android and Samsung was slow with updates. The Asus has terrible I/O issues that cause the tablet to be very slow when any I/O is being done. After having both 7 and 10 inch tablets I find for me 7 is the sweet spot and the Nexus has been my favorite.....so far.
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Maybe not the best in sheer performance, but I would definitely say the best overall when it comes to value quality and performance as a package. And its a nexus, after getting my gnex in July I don't think I'll ever get another non-nexus android device.
On another note, when I decided to get one (I buy everything in 32gb where possible) most stores were out of stock, I bought the last one office depot had in.
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Lame how CNET had to include the rubbish ipad mini as a runner up. Perhaps apple paid to get it I think there.
It doesn't deserve to be in the top 10 IMHO, it's overpriced and under spec.
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It's the best of the cheap tablets but lack of TV output, poor Nexus' battery life and lack of a full screen web experience still leave iPad mini in the top spot imho.
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It's the best of the cheap tablets but lack of TV output, poor Nexus' battery life and lack of a full screen web experience still leave iPad mini in the top spot imho.
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Poor battery life? Not my experience at all. of course, I've only had it for a little over a week. Still, I've used the heck out of this little device and haven't felt the need to run to the charger. Two days is my requirement. If it can last me two days with heavy use then battery life will never be an issue. The Nexus 7 does this and more. Also, maybe I have very clear vision, but I think seeing web sites in full desktop view is fine on the Nexus 7. I always hit the "request full desktop option under chrome when browsing.
But it still nice to get someone's opinion who favors other devices. IMHO, the lack of a true HD screen, the wider and taller form factor (yes it is noticeable after holding the two devices in your hand), having to look at the same static stale home screen all the time, puts the iPad Mini near the bottom spot for me. Frankly, even if the Nexus 7 was priced the same at $329, I still think it is the better buy.
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It's the best of the cheap tablets but lack of TV output, poor Nexus' battery life and lack of a full screen web experience still leave iPad mini in the top spot imho.
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The lack of the TV output is most certainly a valid point, but I really don't know of anyone that uses that on a tablet. I have it on my Acer Iconia A100 and I have the HDMI cable and I used it once just to check it out. Not really that important with very few use cases.
The full screen web experience thing is a little confusing. You get the full desktop versions of the sites if desired. Web browsing is very snappy due to the quad core processor and 1GB of ram.
The iPad mini does have the upper hand on the battery life though, but it is by 2 hours. The iPad gets 12 hours while the Nexus 7 gets 10. I don't think I have ever used a tablet for 10 hours in a single day.
Yeah my first tablet and loving it.
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It's the best of the cheap tablets but lack of TV output, poor Nexus' battery life and lack of a full screen web experience still leave iPad mini in the top spot imho.
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Battery life is excellent and TV out is ...
If this thing had airplay and was glued together properly it would be perfect.

Worthwhile upgrade from Galaxy Tab 10.1?

I'm starting to find my Galaxy Tab 10.1 a bit laggy and am contemplating moving up to a Nexus 10, but am a bit conscious that it's quite soon to upgrade a tablet after only two years.
Just wondered what Nexus 10 owners' opinions are on it, especially those who have upgraded from tablets from a similar generation to the Galaxy Tab 10.1; is it a worthwhile upgrade?..
StevenBX said:
I'm starting to find my Galaxy Tab 10.1 a bit laggy and am contemplating moving up to a Nexus 10, but am a bit conscious that it's quite soon to upgrade a tablet after only two years.
Just wondered what Nexus 10 owners' opinions are on it, especially those who have upgraded from tablets from a similar generation to the Galaxy Tab 10.1; is it a worthwhile upgrade?..
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I'm very well placed to answer this; I upgraded to the Nexus 10 from Galaxy Tab 10.1 myself!
The biggest improvement is the screen; I found the screen of the tab 10.1 to be reasonably blurry with text in particular. this was a big annoyance for me given that magazines and news feeds are what I use my tablet for most! The nexus screen so incredibly sharp and graphic novels and magazines like practically like paper laid over a lightbulb - some people have commented on the colour profile of the nexus 10 being quite well matched to printed paper but that suits me just fine!
As for speed and general use, I had Cyanogenmod 10.1 on my tab 10.1 (heh) so speed was not necessarily a problem (I did try going back to the official ICS update from Samsung but it was soooooooo slow compared to CM10.1 I switched back only a couple of hours later! Even so, I have definitely noticed an improvement in the speed of the UI and general s[need at which things respond...
aaaaaaaanyway, the Nexus 10 is better than the tab 10.1 is every way; thinner, lighter, faster, sharped (man this screen is awesome!) and official updates as soon as the OS is released rather than a year later and awfully bloated unlike Samsung ROMs
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I'm very well placed to answer this; I upgraded to the Nexus 10 from Galaxy Tab 10.1 myself!
The biggest improvement is the screen; I found the screen of the tab 10.1 to be reasonably blurry with text in particular. this was a big annoyance for me given that magazines and news feeds are what I use my tablet for most! The nexus screen so incredibly sharp and graphic novels and magazines like practically like paper laid over a lightbulb - some people have commented on the colour profile of the nexus 10 being quite well matched to printed paper but that suits me just fine!
As for speed and general use, I had Cyanogenmod 10.1 on my tab 10.1 (heh) so speed was not necessarily a problem (I did try going back to the official ICS update from Samsung but it was soooooooo slow compared to CM10.1 I switched back only a couple of hours later! Even so, I have definitely noticed an improvement in the speed of the UI and general s[need at which things respond...
aaaaaaaanyway, the Nexus 10 is better than the tab 10.1 is every way; thinner, lighter, faster, sharped (man this screen is awesome!) and official updates as soon as the OS is released rather than a year later and awfully bloated unlike Samsung ROMs
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Agree with everything above. My wife has the 10.1 and it literally hurts my eyes looking at the text while comparing to this. She's also running stock and it's slow as could be. I should really do the thing every husband should do.... Root it and install cyanogenmod
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Agree with everything above. My wife has the 10.1 and it literally hurts my eyes looking at the text while comparing to this. She's also running stock and it's slow as could be. I should really do the thing every husband should do.... Root it and install cyanogenmod
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you'll seriously notice a whole world of difference with CM10.1 on there! It's like a whole new device
Nexus 10 is still better in every way, though!
Also, forgot to mention that N10 has standard MicroUSB data/power/OTG and micro HDMI so you can attach extra stuff and output to TV without silly proprietary adapters! Given my phone (Note) also uses Micro USB, this is a definite plus point (no idea why they put it "upside down" compared to every other MicroUSB device I've used but hey ho)
I come from a galaxy tab 10.1 to is a big upgrade faster web browsing and the screen to
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I did consider installing CM, but last I heard there were still some bugs on there (screen flickering amongst others) that put me off doing so a bit...
I might wait until I/O to make sure nothing better is announced and might take the plunge when I visit New York at the end of May, as that'll work out cheaper for me than buying it here in the UK.
For those who have upgraded from Galaxy Tab 10.1s, how do you find the battery on the Nexus 10? I mostly tend to use my Tab for watching movies/TV on long flights so need a fairly long battery life (and decent codec support) and I've ready really mixed things about the Nexus 10's battery life so far.
I upgraded from the tab 10.1 and it was definitely a great decision. No regrets. There's nothing the tab 10.1 could do that the Nexus can't and the Nexus is much much smoother. The only thing I didn't like was the lack of Tablet UI but PA has fixed that on my Nexus.
I too came from Galaxy Tab 10.1 to Nexus 10... Huge improvement. My galaxy tab was running cm10.1 and was laggy and I knew it was slow but I didn't really know how bad it was til I watched some videos of the nexus 10 running some tasks in a fraction of time it was taking me on my Gtab... Screen is beautiful in comparison to anything, not just the gtab ... Plus nothing beats having a pure nexus device.
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Battery life is great for my use (Google Magazines, Feedly, Graphic novels) and certainly seems comparable to the GTab10.1
Most of the time I can go a couple of days of reasonably heavy use before the battery gets to 30%. Generally I try not to let it go below this
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Please help me decide between Nexus 10 and Galaxy note 8

I am having a lot of trouble deciding between these two devices, particularly because the nexus 10 is not available to try out at any physical store in my area so I'd be going on just online feedback alone. I made myself a little pro/con list. I am hoping that by seeing what I see, maybe someone can help me tip the scales in one direction or the other!
Galaxy note 8 (not considering ipad mini, i like the note better)
Pros
-I am a physician, the size is perfect for carrying around the hospital in my white coat. As a former owner of an ipad 3, carrying that around was annoying.
-Colors look bright
-S-pen. I don't use it a whole lot on my note 2 phone, but i also dont take notes on my phone. I hope to be able to use my tablet for reading pdfs, highlighting and even following along in lectures. This provides that opportunity.
Cons
-Price, very difficult pill to swallow the price for half the resolution and processing power.
-Lack of XDA support (can this tablet even be rooted? Huge concern for me if not), I'm sort of a flashaholic.
-Havent had a chance to watch an HD movie yet.. can someone comment on what I might expect to see quality wise compared to my old ipad 3 and even the nexus 10?
Google Nexus 10
Pros
-Easily the most beautiful display available, I am a techie who wants the best and brightest
-Always updated by google blah blah, stock android
-Amazing developer community
Cons
-Size, I do like that tablet to fit in my whitecoat and not be cumbersome in the hospital all day
-I'd be buying blind, I have never seen a galaxy 10 tablet in person (ive seen the 7 but i know theyre very different)
Personally id go for the Nexus 7. I dont know how big your lab coat is but it can fit into a suit jacket snugly. I dont think you will see a big size difference between a Nexus 10 and a Note 8, and like you mentioned they are charging an arm and a leg for a vastly underequipped device because it is a "Note"
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Personally id go for the Nexus 7. I dont know how big your lab coat is but it can fit into a suit jacket snugly. I dont think you will see a big size difference between a Nexus 10 and a Note 8, and like you mentioned they are charging an arm and a leg for a vastly underequipped device because it is a "Note"
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i thought about the nexus 7 but i found that extra inch pretty clutch for doing practice exam questions and viewing imaging. The 8" also would fit perfectly in the pocket (obviously 7" would too)
Nexus 10 On the Way
I recently purchased the $139 refurb deal on the Nexus 7 and while it's a nice tablet I found that the screen size was too small. I already have a Note 2 as my phone and found that the Nexus 7 didn't offer enough to justify using it over my Note 2. I ended up giving it to my kids to use. I next considered the Note 8 and the Nexus 10 just like you. I ultimately decided that I probably wouldn't be happy with the 8" screen size either. The reduced size Android tablets are designed mainly for vertical orientation and so make you feel like you are just using a scaled up phone, which doesn't appeal to me. I also think the Note 8 is over-priced. If Samsung made a Note 10 with a high-res display I would definitely get it, but they don't. I just can't see dropping money on a tablet that uses a 1280 resolution display. So I decided to go for the refurb deal on the Nexus 10 in the 32gb model. Like you I haven't ever seen one but like the idea of the high-res display and the Nexus brand (get updates right from Google). At $429 with free shipping I figure its worth ordering just to try out. Mine should be arriving tomorrow. Here is where I ordered from:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/330899402811
I bought the Note 8. I also have / had the Galaxy Tab 10.1, Nexus 7, and iPad 3.
The Note 8 is for people who need to use it to write handwritten notes. None of the other tablets I've used come close to the Note 8 if that is what you need. The size is perfect for note taking. It can take the same amount and size notes on its smaller screen as the iPad can in zoomed mode. However if you do not need the note taking aspect of this tablet, you would be right to think it's over priced. I liked the Nexus 7 size better, it was just more comfortable to hold. The original Samsung 10.1 tablet is slow and the screen is not that great, but it is still my preferred device for videos, mostly because it can display them on the largest screen due to its aspect ratio. The iPad has a beautiful screen which made it a pleasure to use, and I didn't mind its weight at work, but I rarely use it at home because it's too big and heavy. The old 10.1 Android got more use, though now that I have the Note 8 it probably won't be used much any more. My recommendation would be to buy the Nexus 10 for home, and the Note 8 for work if you need it for note taking, but if you don't need the s pen, I would wait a month and see what the next Nexus 7 or 7.7 or 8 will be. It should be announced at Google IO.
my sugestion its that stay out of nexus 10 regarding its multiply issues with build quality until you are not testing the device to the blood before buying.
good luck
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My opinion is get Nexus 10.We don't know how Note 8 exactly perform but Nexus 10 performs well at the moment.
nexus usually it s a device with alot of problems . this is what we know for shure . it a fact
bad quality control - worst device ever at this capitol
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samwheat said:
nexus usually it s a device with alot of problems . this is what we know for shure . it a fact
bad quality control - worst device ever at this capitol
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Go to any tablet on XDA and you will see just as many horror stories people returning their device 6 or 7 times due to some QC problem... Some people are just never happy. There are some legit problems but a lot of what you see is from people who get their jollys off complaining about a product they bought...
The only problem the nexus 10 has that others don't is a software issue... The thermal throttling is WAY too conservative... This can be easily fixed with a custom kernel... And as this guy says he is a flashaholic a custom kernel shouldn't be a problem...
All tablets with LCD screens have light bleed issues... If they has put an Ambled screen on this bad boy it would have raised the cost and people would have complained...
The one thing I wish is that they stuck to a 1080p res screen... There really is no reason to go above that... 1080p looks AMAZING on my 42" lcd(which by the way also has huge light bleed lol) it would look awesome on my nexus 10 especially since they probable could have gone with an AMoled screen at that res for the same price
As far as the OP goes, I I'd pick the nexus 10 lol
PS sorry for the rant lol
I just got the Note 8 today (attempting to making the switch from the Nexus 10). Both are great devices, but I just needed the S Pen feature work, so I went with the Note 8. It's too early to know which one I'll like better at the end.
I can tell you that I love the screen resolution on the Nexus 10. The Note 8 has no comparison when it comes to that department.
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I just got the Note 8 today (attempting to making the switch from the Nexus 10). Both are great devices, but I just needed the S Pen feature work, so I went with the Note 8. It's too early to know which one I'll like better at the end.
I can tell you that I love the screen resolution on the Nexus 10. The Note 8 has no comparison when it comes to that department.
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And its developments too.. Good luck.
I ended up buying both tablets today since I can return either in 15 days. SO far I'm undecided, but I am bummed out that there is no root option for the note 8.
On the flipside.. the nexus 10 is already seeming like a pain in the ass to carry around. Also, whoever designed the note 8 deserves a swift kick in the nuts for making the camera stick out on the back.
I picked uo the Galaxy note 8, 2 days ago. I am using it while on the road for work while at the hotel on the network I am watching the wifi signal strength drop ever time I cover thetop right back side of the tablet with my hand. I mean just the corner of it could any of you guys that have it check. I can post a a video if needed. You can not miss it.
Another issue is the battery life, it just goes too quick. Maybe I am not giving it enough time. If all I am going to get is 5 hours on this battery. I will take this tablet back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2229782&highlight=note+8+root
Root is available for Note 8. I used this and I can verify it works.
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Ravanous said:
I picked uo the Galaxy note 8, 2 days ago. I am using it while on the road for work while at the hotel on the network I am watching the wifi signal strength drop ever time I cover thetop right back side of the tablet with my hand. I mean just the corner of it could any of you guys that have it check. I can post a a video if needed. You can not miss it.
Another issue is the battery life, it just goes too quick. Maybe I am not giving it enough time. If all I am going to get is 5 hours on this battery. I will take this tablet back.
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I don't have any wifi issue with mine. I just tried to reproduce it, but I see no change in signal strength or Internet speed regardless of how I hold it. Check at another wifi location to rule out the hotel being the problem instead. Exchange it if it still does it.
I agree the battery could be better. It gets me through a work day, but needs to be plugged in before I'm ready to put it down for the night. The iPad does do much better with battery life. I'm not sure whether my other Android tablets are better though. Possibly, but it hasn't been noticeable to me.
kisrita said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2229782&highlight=note+8+root
Root is available for Note 8. I used this and I can verify it works.
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I don't have any wifi issue with mine. I just tried to reproduce it, but I see no change in signal strength or Internet speed regardless of how I hold it. Check at another wifi location to rule out the hotel being the problem instead. Exchange it if it still does it.
I agree the battery could be better. It gets me through a work day, but needs to be plugged in before I'm ready to put it down for the night. The iPad does do much better with battery life. I'm not sure whether my other Android tablets are better though. Possibly, but it hasn't been noticeable to me.
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Cool! very interesting.. but i assume even after root, theres no custom roms or kernels available for overclocking?
altimax98 said:
Personally id go for the Nexus 7.
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If a Nexus 7 should even be considered you need to at least wait until next month when official specs are released for the new model update that comes out in a few months.
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Cool! very interesting.. but i assume even after root, theres no custom roms or kernels available for overclocking?
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If root is available this quick, those will follow soon enough even if there are none now.
Ravanous said:
I picked uo the Galaxy note 8, 2 days ago. I am using it while on the road for work while at the hotel on the network I am watching the wifi signal strength drop ever time I cover thetop right back side of the tablet with my hand. I mean just the corner of it.
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So your saying that signal levels drop when you place a highly signal absorbent object over the antenna? That's so crazy, I would never have thought this would be the case. [/donebeingadick]
samwheat said:
nexus usually it s a device with alot of problems . this is what we know for shure . it a fact
bad quality control - worst device ever at this capitol
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Just because your single device had issues doesn't mean everyone elses does My Nexus 7 and Nexus 10 arrived just fine without any huge glaring issues (only "minor" issue my N7 had was screen lift, which was common during early models; none on the later model I bought).
If my device has problems that means that the quality control its bad . if a single device has problems it could havebeen yours , others and others . It could probably happen to you in the future also .
don t you think?
i think 50% of the nexus 10 units has problems from the number of complains onthe forums .
I want a clean product , like my money are . I need the perfect quality control from google and samsung togheder because i dont pay half money when I do .
Dont worry Ravanous ... nexus 10 has also 5 6 hours of battery. Buy note 8 or wait for ipad mini 2 if you can eat IOS.
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I have a Nexus 10 but I have it on ebay at the moment and waiting to replace it with a Note 8 3G (whenever they are available here in the UK!).I love the screen on the N10 but that's about it, I find the size awkward and rarely use it as a result. I see myself getting more use out of Note 8. I always thought that 8" is the sweetspot in terms of size.
samwheat said:
i think 50% of the nexus 10 units has problems from the number of complains on the forums .
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There are thousands of Nexus 10 owners on these forums, which we can see from ROM and kernel downloads. Of those, there is at best only 10% of owners who actually post here. Of those 10%, only 2-3% have problems with their tablet. 2-3% of product that has issues is on the upper end of "acceptable" for most companies these days.

[Q] Upgrade to Samsung Tab s 10.5

So I have had my nexus 10 for nearly 2 years now. I got it when it first came out. Its a good tablet. Now the Samsung Tab s 10.5 is out is it worth upgrading. I can sell my Nexus 10 for say 200 quid.
The tab s 10.5 with 4g is £430. One thing I want is the SAMOLED display as the nexus 10 screen is pretty rubbish.
Is it worth the upgrade?
Thanks
I was thinking the same but I decided against. The Verge gave it a pretty average review and they are usually bang on the money (although a little swerved towards Apple sometimes). You will be lucky to get £200 for the N10 more like £150-160.
For me if I was spending £400 on a tablet today it would have to wow me and really stand out from the pack. It would have to ooze class like I remember the first iPad doing when I opened the box and looked at it. It would have to have soul like all great tech product have. From what I have seen the of Tab S it does not posses this. Individually it has great components but like the Verge said, a tablet is more than the sum of its specs, and this is where the Tab S falls short.
sharp910sh said:
So I have had my nexus 10 for nearly 2 years now. I got it when it first came out. Its a good tablet. Now the Samsung Tab s 10.5 is out is it worth upgrading. I can sell my Nexus 10 for say 200 quid.
The tab s 10.5 with 4g is £430. One thing I want is the SAMOLED display as the nexus 10 screen is pretty rubbish.
Is it worth the upgrade?
Thanks
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How exactly is the nexus 10 screen rubish? It's been the best in class by a mile since it debut.
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Leoisright said:
How exactly is the nexus 10 screen rubish? It's been the best in class by a mile since it debut.
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Well the first day I got it, it has light bleed. I got two mroe replacements both with lightbleed. The Super AMOLED screen is on a different level. I saw it in the shop today and was shocked how nice it looked.
I have the s4 and the screen on that is top notch!
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Well the first day I got it, it has light bleed. I got two mroe replacements both with lightbleed. The Super AMOLED screen is on a different level. I saw it in the shop today and was shocked how nice it looked.
I have the s4 and the screen on that is top notch!
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I can see how this year the screens will be better. Sounds like you had hardware issues as mine was and still is top notch.
I was hoping for a nexus 10 2.0 but not in a hurry to upgrade at this point.
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Leoisright said:
I can see how this year the screens will be better. Sounds like you had hardware issues as mine was and still is top notch.
I was hoping for a nexus 10 2.0 but not in a hurry to upgrade at this point.
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I've also been waiting for the nexus 10 2.0 but it hasnt come and doesn't seem like it will either!
Leoisright said:
How exactly is the nexus 10 screen rubish? It's been the best in class by a mile since it debut.
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The resolution of the screen has been without rival for a very long time, however the colour balance has always been terrible. Anybody with any interest in colour balance and accurate colour replication (i.e. photographers using N10 for in-field review) has been complaining about the N10 screen since release...
sharp910sh said:
So I have had my nexus 10 for nearly 2 years now. I got it when it first came out. Its a good tablet. Now the Samsung Tab s 10.5 is out is it worth upgrading. I can sell my Nexus 10 for say 200 quid.
The tab s 10.5 with 4g is £430. One thing I want is the SAMOLED display as the nexus 10 screen is pretty rubbish.
Is it worth the upgrade?
Thanks
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I recently sold my Dad's 32gb Nexus 10 on ebay (issues with Skype, not present on mine though) and someone bought it now for £250. Even though you have to bear in mind their sellers fees you'll still definitely get more than £160 for it.
Instead he got a 16gb xperia z2 tablet from pc world for £330. It's a nice bit of kit, I envy the weight saving the most compared to my Nexus the most.
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I've just upgraded to the S10.5 and the screen is stunning and almost has a 3-D effect because of it's vibrant colours, deep blacks and dazzling whites and love running two apps at the same time on the larger 10.5 screen.
No overheating or random reboots and it is so thin and light compared to the N10. I've added the Samsung book cover to protect it and use as a stand and it gives it a premium feel like an ipad.
I've also added a 128Gb sd card for storing films, music etc which cannot be done on the N10.
So the S 10.5 is a worthy replacement for the N10.
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Warren_Orange said:
I was thinking the same but I decided against. The Verge gave it a pretty average review and they are usually bang on the money (although a little swerved towards Apple sometimes). You will be lucky to get £200 for the N10 more like £150-160.
For me if I was spending £400 on a tablet today it would have to wow me and really stand out from the pack. It would have to ooze class like I remember the first iPad doing when I opened the box and looked at it. It would have to have soul like all great tech product have. From what I have seen the of Tab S it does not posses this. Individually it has great components but like the Verge said, a tablet is more than the sum of its specs, and this is where the Tab S falls short.
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One of the big problems with the ipad is you can only watch one app at a time. It reminds me of the time many years ago before microsoft introduced the ability to view more than one app at a time and I don't want to go back to that.
The S is much better than our N10, I wouldn't buy it because its GPU isn't nearly as good as it should for the price, the Exynos 5420 is pretty damn outdated, they should have equipped it with a 801 at the very least, even the LTE version sports an 800, which is outdated, I would wait for the refresh of the whole android tablet lineup that will probably come when L is released, we'll probably see lots of ARMV8 based ones
I think that is better wait for next Nexus 10.
Galaxy tab s 10.5! There is no comparison. The Nexus has the pure android blah blah but the Galaxy has the most beautiful display hands down. I still have my Nexus though but it looks like development kinda stopped.
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It seems like my Nexus 10 battery has died. So may as well buy the Tab s. Is the 16gb internal memory enough for apps?
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It seems like my Nexus 10 battery has died. So may as well buy the Tab s. Is the 16gb internal memory enough for apps?
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Well nexus 9 just came out so why not grab one of those? It's not too much smaller than the nexus 10. Of course the galaxy s is probably cheaper at this point
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