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WIFI help needed

Ok, I'm soon to get a Universal (O2 XDA Exec to be precise) and want to take advantage of the inbuilt WIFI capabilities to surf the net from the comfort of my bedroom using my PC's broadband connection.
I currently have a desktop PC, with a broadband connection (provided by NTL). What additional kit do I need to enable WIFI on my desktop PC and allow my Universal to share the broadband internet connection.
Is it just one of those little boxes with the flip up aerial? I'm presuming so but want to check before I waist money on one.
Also, the reason I mentioned I'm on NTL is that PC World have signs everyhere telling me that NTL users require a different type of wireless router to BT users (one is DSL/Cable and the other is ADSL). Anyone know if this is true?

hi ive never had ntl before but im under the assumption that they use coax or something similar to connect to the internet but yes the easiest way ive found is by connecting through a wireless router, yet dont be so hasty to buy yourself the wifi kit and caboodle, when ou get your xda exec when connecting the wifi on it see if you can leech a neighbours unsecure WEP DISABLED connection
i dont know if a usb wifi antenna would work for connecting the exec to pc

I'm thinking that a "usb wifi antenna" is used for enabling wifi on a device in order for said device to connect to an existing wifi network (router).
I was looking at them because they were cheaper, lol. But I don't think they'd work for this purpose.
Also, my neighbours either side are both old, so I doubt they even have a computer. And even if they do they probably tippex out mistakes on the screen :lol:
What kind of range does WIFI have anyway?

Anyone?

Please?

Hi GaZ,
The signs in PcWorld are correct, if you connect over a BT line, you will be using an ADSL modem. As you are with NTL, you will be using DSL/cable modem.
NTL will have supplied you with a modem already (that allows you to surf on your desktop PC). I'm assuming this modem has a Coax cable that joins it to the NTL socket in your wall, and an Ethernet socket, with a LAN cable running to your desktop PC's network card? (Not sure if you can get USB varieties as with ADSL, but I haven't seen them).
So, if you do currently connect your desktop PC to your modem with a standard Cat5 LAN cable, your best bet is to get a wireless router (as you correctly state, the little box with flip up aerial).
There are a few different wireless routers available (PcWorld and Argos do several - Belkin, Linksys, Netgear are all good), the main thing being some have a built in ADSL modem - which you don't want! As you already have the modem, you just need a simple wireless router.
I think most have a 4 port hub built in and many have a built in firewall. You will need to take the LAN cable from your modem (that currently goes to the PC) and plug it in the hub on the wireless router instead. Now, your internet signal can be transmitted through your wireless router - and therefore your XDA will be able to connect and surf the net (even if your desktop PC is switched off!).
To connect your desktop PC back to the net, you can either
a) Buy a Wireless USB dongle, around £15-£20. This plugs into a USB socket on your desktop PC and allows it to connect using your wireless router as well, the same as the XDA.
b) If your PC is located near the wireless router, you could use a second LAN cable to connect your PC's network card to one of the spare sockets on the wireless routers hub. This will provide a slightly faster connection compared to wireless, but you wouldn't notice much difference either way for normal web surfing.
Sorry for going on, but I suggest (providing your cable modem currently outputs it's signal via standard ethernet LAN) you get a wireless router, with built in hub (4 or 5 LAN sockets on the back)... but avoid ones with ADSL modems built in as they cost more and you don't need it.
The only other thing is 54g or more? The standard wireless 'G' products are rated at 54mbps (which should be fine)... but you can pay more for high-speed versions listed as 108g or 125g - you'd have to read reviews to see if you think one of these will give you any added benefit.
As an example, PcWorld do this Belkin one for only £43.97:
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/st...null&sm=null&tm=null&sku=886496&category_oid=
And here's the matching USB adapter for £20, should you wish to connect your desktop wirelessly as well:
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/st...null&sm=null&tm=null&sku=369188&category_oid=
It has "DSL Connection for Cable Customers" - just the type you need.
It has "With 4-Port 10/100 Switch" - meaning you can hard wire PC's as well.
And it "Protects your Network with Firewall" - another level of security.
But there are loads more out there! Happy surfing.

WMWIFI and Playstation3

Hello,
Long time listner....first time poster.
I've been using WMWIFI for home internet access now for a while. My laptop and desktop have no problems finding my mogul as an access point.
I just purchased a Playstation3 (mostly for the bluray). It has a wireless card built in to access some of Sony's online stuff.
My problem is that the PS3 cannot find my mogul as an access point. Any guesses? I've searched to earth's end, however, it doesn't seem there are many people trying to do what I am...and unfortunately I can't exactly call sprint and ask them.
Thanks for any help.

Found the answer...the PS3 will not connect to an Ad-hoc network...
Reported to not work
Nintendo DS
Nintendo Wii
PlayStation Portable
Unable to connect to a device providing internet using ad-hoc mode.
Do ya'll think that there is a way around this?
I don't have any other internet access (except for the mogul) but would like to get the PS3 connected.

i'm sure theres a way to rebroadcast from the PC

hymanr said:
Found the answer...the PS3 will not connect to an Ad-hoc network...
Reported to not work
Nintendo DS
Nintendo Wii
PlayStation Portable
Unable to connect to a device providing internet using ad-hoc mode.
Do ya'll think that there is a way around this?
I don't have any other internet access (except for the mogul) but would like to get the PS3 connected.
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The psp can connect to an Ad-Hoc network (at least the last time I tried), don't know about the others. I just know under network settings on the psp you have to change it to ad-hoc mode.

Yes it can be done. you need a laptop or a desktop to act as a middle man.
If your desktop or laptop has a wireless / wired port, simply share the internet conenction from your phone to your PC.
plug in a wire from the ps3 to the PC
highlight the wireless icon, and the wired icon in your network manager and right click and hit bridge network connections.
it will work after that.

sfld said:
Yes it can be done. you need a laptop or a desktop to act as a middle man.
If your desktop or laptop has a wireless / wired port, simply share the internet conenction from your phone to your PC.
plug in a wire from the ps3 to the PC
highlight the wireless icon, and the wired icon in your network manager and right click and hit bridge network connections.
it will work after that.
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If you have a wireless router,that should make it all work. Set your mogul to connect to the wireless router and set the router to be 192.168.0.2 instead of its default. Now setup your devices with a static IP,on the same subnet and set the default gateway to be 192.168.0.1 (your moguls ip). In the earlier versions,this just works as is.
In the latest version,you will need to set some other settings on the phone as well. Go into your phones wifi settings and set the wifi adapter to 192.168.0.1 (earlier versions of wmwifirouter set this as the default,but the newer one is more flexible,so you need to specify this) Now,connect your wifi to your routers network. Next launch wmwifirouter. Clear the check mark next to dhcp allocator and adhoc netoworking. Network block should be set to the 192.168.0.x subnet. The router wont actually be used as a router,just as a network access point. Your mogul is actually the router. The clients are setup as before,with static IPs with a default gateway of 192.168.0.1.
This is how I connect my computer to the internet. I expect that it should work with any device that can be set with a static IP.

Thank you pflatlyne...
I have a wireless router but have not been using it as my computers can access the mogul directly. I will try your set up tonight.
Hopefully I can follow your instructions well enough to get it set up.
Thank you!!

WMwifiRouter and Xbox360
This did work with my 360 and WMwifiRouter. Had to config for my settings but it works!!! Yippee
EDIT
In case anyone asks, I did'nt need anything except my phone and 360. No router, or computer. Just fired up my wifi and entered the settings in my 360. It didn't see it, but it allowed me to edit my settings. I don't know about the PS3, wouldnt mind having one though. :..(

Hmmm....I still can't get it to work..
I'm not the most literate when it comes to how to do this.
Any chance of a detailed walkthrough on what to connect to what?
I have a desktop, an Actiontec wireless router, a wireless adapter for my desktop, mogul, and playstation....

Yes a step by step would be great. I have been trying to get the wireless router idea to work with no luck.

Mine works
What I did was what the other guy said with bridging the connection. once you connect your mogul to the computer and get online through the pc, connect an ethernet cable from your pc to the wifi routers main plug.
go to network connections
highlight your internet connection for the mogul and the one for the ethernet ( on my pc it is defaulted as internet connection 11 for the mogul and 12 for my NIC card) right click the highlighted connections and click bridge. connect the ps3 to one of the available hub slots and your ps3 should connect n/p.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE A ROUTER...
you must purchase a cross over cable to get an internet connection directly from your pc to your ps3. the method is the exact same as above except no router.

Found a way to tether to my wii

Ok so I spent a few hours messing around last night, and I found a way to tether to my wii. It's probably no good for playing online. I needed to update my homebrew and this worked great for that.
You will need two routers, one of them capable of running dd-wrt. Set the dd-wrt router for client-bridge mode in the wireless tab. In basic setup (in the setup tab), the gateway should be set to the IP of your phone, and the channel and SSID should be set to match your phone. Give the router an IP address that is high in the range set on your tether app. Under setup>advanced routing make sure it is set to router and not gateway. Now with your phone broadcasting, go to the status tab, and the wireless sub-tab. Scroll to the bottom, and click site survey. Your tethered network should show up. Click join. Unfortunately you have to do this every time, as dd-wrt doesn't automatically connect to ad-hoc networks.
Now set up your second router the way you like. Run a patch cable from LAN on the first router to WAN on the second. After it connects, you should have a fully functioning infrastructure network through your tethered connection.
If you don't know about dd-wrt, all the info is online. Read the wiki carefully as you can potentially brick your router if you flash a version that your router can't handle. I'm not responsible if you do this!
I don't know if tomato is capable of client-bridge mode, but you could probably use it instead of dd-wrt if you prefer.
Good luck!
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Very informative!!

I was thinking about this the other day for my PS3. My idea was that couldn't you use your computer as an internet gateway and run a patch cable (Not sure if it'd be a crossover or not) from your computer to a router (into the "Internet" port) and run another patch cable from the router into the PS3?
I didn't bother to try it, but it was an interesting thought considering the only internet connection I have where I live currently is through my phone. The connection does just fine to run Vent+WoW, though.
edit: Maybe it'd work with a switch instead of a router? 'nother thought.

You should be able yo do that, but you wouldn't need a switch or a router, just plug straight in if you use a crossover cable. I think you would need a router if you use patch cables.
The wii doesn't have an Ethernet port so I haven't tried it that way.. I bet its a pain to set up internet sharing in windows though
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Or switch
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It's real easy to share your internet from wifi tether through your computer's ethernet port. and for the wii, you only need a usb to ethernet adapter to use ethernet. (in windows) just enable share connection for your ethernet connection. Plug in. done.
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Tethering with wireless router- need help

Ok so i have an lg g2, i am able to tether my phone to my pc and get internet. I am wanting to use my dlink wireless router to connect xbox 360. Well the only way i could get to work is by going into network sharing center, change adapter settings, then bridging my pc's lan adapter and the android's lan adapter making a mac bridge miniport. Well this actually works just fine to get my console connected. Only thing is since im not using the sharing options, i cannot set up ports to get an open nat type. Strict only. I also cannot get into my router to change pnp or demilitarize connection to get the open nat. So if anyone knows what the heck im talking about and can help, could u please either explain step by step what i would need to do to use sharing and accomplish that way or direct me to a thread that covers this. I have been trying to figure this out forever and im either not understanding or im not finding what i need. Everything ive read suggests i need to use the sharing option on one of the adapters but i just cannot figure this out. Any help would b so much appreciated. Thanks
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Why can't you use your phone as wireless hotspot and connect everything to your phone? If your Xbox is not wireless you can either a) get a wireless adapter for it or b) buy a wireless bridge box ($20) and connect your Xbox via that.
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Tether to Router?

So I can use my standard USB cable and tether to the laptop and have net connection on lappy. Same with desktop. USB tether works just the same as wifi tether. What about getting a micro USB to RJ45 (ethernet) cable and tethering to the internet in jack on my router. Would that put the net signal on the router like a modem would?

Chopstix9 said:
So I can use my standard USB cable and tether to the laptop and have net connection on lappy. Same with desktop. USB tether works just the same as wifi tether. What about getting a micro USB to RJ45 (ethernet) cable and tethering to the internet in jack on my router. Would that put the net signal on the router like a modem would?
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Or you could get a wireless adapter for your Desktop. That's what I did. Now I can stream Amazon Prime on my Xbox 360, and PC game at the same time.This is what I have and works like a charm.
Good luck.

Oh my desktop is already wireless enabled, that's not an issue... Been running the house off the phones for a couple years... Just gave up a little bit when I got rid of cable interet. Whole house networking to other computers in the house, had to plug the wireless printer back into the desktop, it's no longer a network printer, etc.... was just toying with the idea and wondering if it would work is all.
Actually, in looking at the micro usb - rj45 adapters, I don't think it will work. Those are actually ethernet adapters, like adding a network card to a slot on a pc. Made for taking a net signal FROM a network, not sending one TO it.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't you just get a compatible wireless dongle (Something you would use for sniffing/injecting packets) and use it as an access point so you can broadcast the signal throughout the house?
Another thing you can do is pick up a router that you can install Tomato or DD-WRT on and use it as a wireless client bridge. It would connect to your phone, and again, broadcast that signal through the house.

Chopstix9 said:
So I can use my standard USB cable and tether to the laptop and have net connection on lappy. Same with desktop. USB tether works just the same as wifi tether. What about getting a micro USB to RJ45 (ethernet) cable and tethering to the internet in jack on my router. Would that put the net signal on the router like a modem would?
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DJNads said:
Another thing you can do is pick up a router that you can install Tomato or DD-WRT on and use it as a wireless client bridge. It would connect to your phone, and again, broadcast that signal through the house.
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Correct. Assuming the phone would even operate in this manner (I've never tried but sounds like a great idea!), you'd need a router that is capable of operating in bridged mode/wireless bridge/access point mode (may be labeled as either of them). You'd then have to configure the router to said bridged mode. An easier route (and possibly more expensive) would be to purchase just an access point.

MrHyde03 said:
Correct. Assuming the phone would even operate in this manner (I've never tried but sounds like a great idea!), you'd need a router that is capable of operating in bridged mode/wireless bridge/access point mode (may be labeled as either of them). You'd then have to configure the router to said bridged mode. An easier route (and possibly more expensive) would be to purchase just an access point.
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I may have an old WAP in my junk closet. A router that can bridge may work but first thing I think I would need is a router or WAP that has a USB connection on it.... I'm looking to plug the phone into the router to provide the internet signal instead of a cable/dsl modem, creating a typical LAN ... I can still use the LAN in-house sans the net connection. Just a pain to disconnect from one network (phone hotspot) and connect to another (netless LAN) for file transfers network printing etc ...

Chopstix9 said:
I may have an old WAP in my junk closet. A router that can bridge may work but first thing I think I would need is a router or WAP that has a USB connection on it.... I'm looking to plug the phone into the router to provide the internet signal instead of a cable/dsl modem, creating a typical LAN ... I can still use the LAN in-house sans the net connection. Just a pain to disconnect from one network (phone hotspot) and connect to another (netless LAN) for file transfers network printing etc ...
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You shouldn't need to physically connect your phone to the router at all. Depending on what router you get, it should be able to pick up the wireless signal from your phone's hotspot and rebroadcast it as its own network.
Edit: And honestly, I'm not sure connecting the phone via usb to the router would even share the connection. That router doesn't have the drivers needed for that to work.

To the OP, off topic question but what did you have to do to activate wi fi tether? your sig, tells me that your on stock and can still do it, yes? thanks!

Side note, it's been awhile but when I moved into my apartment I had no internet for a few days.
I did the USB wired tether to a laptop, then the laptop I think I enabled ICS/internet connection sharing and then connected with rj45 to a router, and it shared that as the WAN connection.

motrinHD said:
To the OP, off topic question but what did you have to do to activate wi fi tether? your sig, tells me that your on stock and can still do it, yes? thanks!
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What part of my sig tells you I am on stock?

I've done both these things. I've taken my cell and flashed a router with dd-wrt and set it up as a repeater bridge but that means that only the computers near that router gets internet, unless your house is wired for ethernet (or using wireless). My current setup is having the phone tethered to a computer running Zentyal linux. This is a cool distro that can replace a 2008 Small business server in a work environment but it does the trick for my router at home. I had it running on an old P4 and recently graduated to a Zotac Zbox Mini ID41 which is tucked away behind my TV. I set up the computer to hand out dhcp and be the router and gateway. When i plug in my cell in tethering mode, zentyal recognizes it and i set that USB device as external WAN. It usually takes some getting used to and about a minute to normalize after the phone is unplugged and taken on the road. This has worked for me so far but when i'm at work, no internet at home. I'm currently attempting to talk my workplace into letting me subsidize a Verizon Jetpack i can leave home which will do the same job.
As a side note, i live in rural WI and we only have Satellite internet as a choice, which really stinks as both carriers have a bandwidth cap which we were constantly hitting two weeks into the billing cycle. They then throttle you down to less than a meg until your billing cycle renews.

We RV all summer most years and I use WiFiRanger gear to network our 5th wheel. That way we can grab a WiFi AP if one is available and the credentials are known or I HotSpot my phone and the Router grabs the phone's WiFi AP and we are good to go.
If you are stationary and only intend to use the phone's HotSpot as a WiFi AP then WiFiRanger's GO2 should do the trick. They are currently working on a firmware upgrade that will allow some great bandwidth monitoring and device usage controls. Their price is comparable to most full featured routers being offered but not cheap.
I am a satisfied user and Beta tester of their equipment, not an employee or representative. We use several of their offerings to maximize our capabilities on the road.